Men who play women and get them raped

[GrimReaper]

1 hour ago, RussianPrince said:

Because I can't become a 7 foot fall cat man with a twelve inch dick that can shoot fireballs from pure will alone?

 

Sounds like you're a bit triggered. What, you've never been laid before?

Silly you, the basis of psycho-analysis is that everything stands for something and needs to be interpreted accordingly instead of being taken at face value. You playing someone who isn't you and is someone that is better than you might tell you that subconsciously you aren't really content with who you are and that you should try to improve yourself. That's a noble goal everyone should have in their lives but instead of actually becoming a better person that impulse drives you to play a big catman with a giant dick. Maybe one of the females in your life was actually a tad bit too dominant and now you seek a way to pump up your masculinity, even if that happens only in your fantasy. After all, if you were a big man with an even bigger penis, nobody would dare question your manliness, or so you might think.

[Veladarius]

On 12/28/2016 at 4:45 PM, Wolborg said:

That said, can you enlighten me as to why would a male player play a female character and get her raped? What is the point?

 

If you enjoy the fantasy of a woman getting raped, why not play a male character and rape female NPCs?

 

If you enjoy the fantasy of yourself getting abused, why not play a man and get him abused by the NPCs?

 

If you enjoy the fantasy of being a woman, why not be a woman who doesn't get sexually assaulted?

 

1- All of the Bethesda RPG's I have played I play in 3rd person, 1st person looks like you are looking out of your chest. Besides, what is the point of getting all of the nice looking armor and using it if you never see it?

2- I prefer to play female characters as I don't want to be staring at the ass end of some guy all the time. I also tend to prefer a strong heroine in a story than a hero as most heroes tend to be rather flat character-wise.

3- As for the abuse it is the forced submission and humiliation which is a bit of a fetish of mine but one that I keep as a fantasy and not reality.

 

Combine it all and there you go.

[Guest]

27 minutes ago, GrimReaper said:

Silly you, the basis of psycho-analysis is that everything stands for something and needs to be interpreted accordingly instead of being taken at face value. You playing someone who isn't you and is someone that is better than you might tell you that subconsciously you aren't really content with who you are and that you should try to improve yourself. That's a noble goal everyone should have in their lives but instead of actually becoming a better person that impulse drives you to play a big catman with a giant dick. Maybe one of the females in your life was actually a tad bit too dominant and now you seek a way to pump up your masculinity, even if that happens only in your fantasy. After all, if you were a big man with an even bigger penis, nobody would dare question your manliness, or so you might think.

I can play whoever I damn want. I'm perfectly happy the way I am, you don't know who I am so you have no business making accusations like that.

 

That's not what this is about though. You seem extremely upset because I'm right and know what I'm talking about, and you seem to feel the need to prove me wrong. This isn't about who has a bigger dick.

 

Virgins act extremely different compared to people who are no longer virgin, and that's a proven scientific fact. Priorities shift. It may be slow but the change is noticeable. People who've had sex mature mentally at a faster rate as well. While not everybody experiences this change mentally the large majority of males that this does occur in do.

 

Why don't you go away, do some research, and come back with information that is actually correct and can be backed up by published studies?

 

tl;dr, you're wrong, fuck off

[SexDwarf2250]

5 hours ago, yatol said:

the view is better

Not really.

 

 

1 hour ago, Veladarius said:

I also tend to prefer a strong heroine in a story than a hero as most heroes tend to be rather flat character-wise.

Protagonists in TES are identical regardless of sex. Lack of tits isn't what makes a character flat.

[GrimReaper]

1 hour ago, RussianPrince said:

I can play whoever I damn want. I'm perfectly happy the way I am, you don't know who I am so you have no business making accusations like that.

 

 

tl;dr, you're wrong, fuck off

It's funny because according to you, what character one plays is more than enough evidence to diagnose certain psychological issues. And it's even more funny that you get so damn defensive about it when someone does the same with you. Maybe the big boy pants don't quite fit you yet.

[SexDwarf2250]

33 minutes ago, GrimReaper said:

It's funny because according to you, what character one plays is more than enough evidence to diagnose certain psychological issues. And it's even more funny that you get so damn defensive about it when someone does the same with you. Maybe the big boy pants don't quite fit you yet.

Just because a rule does not always hold true for the individual doesn't mean it isn't typically influential. It just means it's better to avoid discussing individuals' penis sizes, virginities, or other obvious baits or perceived insults, respectively.

 

There's nothing unusual about people wishing they could be better versions of what they are, this is a pretty healthy and common way people want to be different. It's the people who seem to wish they were very fundamentally different that are more of interest.

 

 

[leyre]

No matter the game, female characters have ALWAYS look better than males

[SexDwarf2250]

13 minutes ago, leyre said:

No matter the game, female characters have ALWAYS look better than males

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu2OYcgr4rM

 

It doesn't really hold, though, for a game where you can have 10x as many followers as you have eyeballs.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, GrimReaper said:

It's funny because according to you, what character one plays is more than enough evidence to diagnose certain psychological issues. And it's even more funny that you get so damn defensive about it when someone does the same with you. Maybe the big boy pants don't quite fit you yet.

Hahaha defensive? Not really, on the other hand I'd say I'm an extremely aggressive and offensive person, which are the results of a terrible childhood and upbringing rather than any current life issues.

 

Again, unless you can provide proof that I have these "issues" you claim I have, your argument has no grounds.

 

There are literally hundreds of studies done on the effects of losing virginity, including MRI scans, CAT scans, blood samples, et cetera and they all prove my point quite well.

 

You can find all of these studies online with a quick Google search, I'm not gonna waste my time arguing with an angry virgin basement-dwelling lowlife who has nothing better to do than argue with strangers on the Internet on the subject of the mental effects of male virginity. I have a girlfriend that needs some loving and a homemade PornHub channel to maintain. Have fun, Mr. Virgin.

[GrimReaper]

5 minutes ago, RussianPrince said:

Hahaha defensive? Not really, on the other hand I'd say I'm an extremely aggressive and offensive person, which are the results of a terrible childhood and upbringing rather than any current life issues.

 

Again, unless you can provide proof that I have these "issues" you claim I have, your argument has no grounds.

 

There are literally hundreds of studies done on the effects of losing virginity, including MRI scans, CAT scans, blood samples, et cetera and they all prove my point quite well.

 

You can find all of these studies online with a quick Google search, I'm not gonna waste my time arguing with an angry virgin basement-dwelling lowlife who has nothing better to do than argue with strangers on the Internet on the subject of the mental effects of male virginity. I have a girlfriend that needs some loving and a homemade PornHub channel to maintain. Have fun, Mr. Virgin.

Defensive behavior is defined as that behavior which occurs when an individual perceives threat or anticipates threat in the group. The person who behaves defensively, even though he or she also gives some attention to the common task, devotes an appreciable portion of energy to defending himself or herself. Besides talking about the topic, he thinks about how he appears to others, how he may be seen more favorably, how he may win, dominate, impress or escape punishment, and/or how he may avoid or mitigate a perceived attack.

 

Q.E.D. I'd say. Have a nice day - it's easy to play some role on the internet, probably the only space where there's zero repercussions for any kind of behavior if you remain anonymous. Again, the big boy pants don't suit you. No real man needs to reassure everyone around him that he is a real man all the time.

[Celedhring]

Any of you ever read "The Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr. Hyde?"   Anyway..I've always believed that every person has a dark side to himself or herself.  The only difference is degree of control and how much morality the person possesses.    And there's constructive and not so constructive ways to express that side that you'd rather keep under control - for instance, the Marquis de Sade praticed sadism, but the more extreme aspects of his sadism was expressed through his writings like Justine and 120 Days of Sodom. Because frankly, it wouldn't have been morally acceptable for him to practice the more extreme aspects of sadism for real..so he turned to writing about it as a sort of outlet..and perhaps as a kind of philosophy. 

 

In a way, games like GTA and Skyrim are the constructive outlets for the darker sides of yourselves.  In America, violence is more acceptable than sex while in the EU, it's the other way around.   Ultimately your standards and morality are gonna vary wildly depending on who you are, what you are. 

 

And besides ultimately...Skyrim is just a frigging VIRTUAL world.  If you're getting worked up over what's happening in a modded Skyrim game that you feel the need to talk about it, you got issues to deal with. 

 

Besides, if I'm going to play Skyrim, I'd much rather look at a gorgeous woman than a man, no matter how handsome he is..it's just how I roll.  I just don't want to be staring at a hairy ass when I'm running in third person.  Been there, done that, had enough of that. 

[Veladarius]

6 hours ago, SexDwarf2250 said:

Not really.

 

I don't use followers in Skyrim, they get in my way more than help. Also I prefer them dressed in something provocative or sexy than wandering naked which is rather boring.

 

I also don't always go for skimpy outfits for my characters either:

 

 

 

Protagonists in TES are identical regardless of sex. Lack of tits isn't what makes a character flat.

True, seeing as Skyrim's dialogue is flat no matter what doesn't help though. Every other RPG I have played with a voiced main character the male has been rather flat and emotionless compared to the women. I have not played FO4 as a male yet but the clips of the dialogue with them certainly doesn't have me eager to play one.

 

Overall, if you don't understand peoples reasoning for it and keep countering everyones reasons either you never will understand it or the thought of playing a character of the opposite sex in these situations makes you uncomfortable. Either way you likely won't understand because you are likely not open minded enough to be able to get into the character. I have been playing traditional pen and paper RPG's for close to 30 years so if there is no character voice I role play it myself and given the dialogue in Skyrim and previous experience my mind fills it in itself.

 

Besides, using things like pregnancy mods, Milk Mod Economy and others gives an added element of consequences of being defeated which is lacking for males. While there are addon's for Devious Devices for males (I know since I generally helped with many of them) it still is a minimal risk.

 

Don't bother telling me I have mental issues or anything like that, the things that happen in my Skyrim game are various fetishes I have that I would not otherwise act on. I do have actual mental issues that I see a psychiatrist for but anything here pales in comparison and is not related as they have been around far longer than Skyrim or adult mods in other TES games.

[yatol]

7 hours ago, SexDwarf2250 said:

Not really.

 

 

and where are your so much better looking males to compare?

if it's your thing to stare at rambo ass when you play

 

and if you don't like how your female look, why do you keep that mod?

there's much more choice for females than for males

strange isn't it if the ones that play females are "special"?

 

what's the point to have forty twelves nude followers around anyway?

playing as the general of a follower army? i'll kill stuff myself, less boring

sofia, it's just my pack mule, that can cast spells and use weapons for the show

 

[Chase547]

Well with my female characters they only make it appear they have been assailed against their will when in reality they're killing any man who touches them like that by the act itself. I have always made female characters who use a man's will to dominate against them either using a charm spell of the succubi to make them a plaything for later or slipping a bit of poison to make sure it's their last ride. My 'defeats' have always been according to my villainous plans and actually made the dark brotherhood storylines even more fun for me than they already were in vanilla skyrim. So that would be my reason for letting it happen cause in the end my character still wins out in the grand scheme cause she either gets a meatshield to throw in front of a monster or she just has a good time and gets paid for the kill.

[oldrayzor]

Because of the flexibility of the game design, its rather easy (well set-up is never easy) to play-out in a variety of ways that don't necessarily lead to a satisfying conclusion nor do they necessarily reflect any arch-typical fantasy-fulfillment. I have, as I suspect others have, often role-played for hours under certain criteria (sometimes personal, sometime arbitrary) only to wonder why I even bothered. This is not a criticism for asking a mature question, nor do I wish to sound defensive, but merely wish to point out that constructing fortifications and factions in a ancient-Nordic realm that never existed is, at its essence, a "boyish wet dream". There is no mature Skyrim. Straight out-of-box, a child sends you to murder a woman running an orphanage. But I do applaud the question and the many interesting replies.

[MyNameIsnt]

11 hours ago, GrimReaper said:

Defensive behavior is defined as that behavior which occurs when an individual perceives threat or anticipates threat in the group. The person who behaves defensively, even though he or she also gives some attention to the common task, devotes an appreciable portion of energy to defending himself or herself. Besides talking about the topic, he thinks about how he appears to others, how he may be seen more favorably, how he may win, dominate, impress or escape punishment, and/or how he may avoid or mitigate a perceived attack.

 

Q.E.D. I'd say. Have a nice day - it's easy to play some role on the internet, probably the only space where there's zero repercussions for any kind of behavior if you remain anonymous. Again, the big boy pants don't suit you. No real man needs to reassure everyone around him that he is a real man all the time.

from an outside perspective you're acting way out of line. being condescending is not an appropriate way to get your point across.

[MrEsturk]

39 minutes ago, 222304 said:

from an outside perspective you're acting way out of line. being condescending is not an appropriate way to get your point across.

The guy he's responding to hasn't exactly been a bastion of good manners to him. Is making half your arguments "U must be a pathetic virgin" polite and constructive yet being somewhat condescending is not? That whole debate started because RussianPrince implied that any male who likes to play female characters in sexual situations is just a loser who can't get laid and needs professional help. Not exactly the kind of claim that invites friendly banter.

[KoolHndLuke]

For me playing a female character, it is not about being raped so much as it's about domination and submission- like some have said. For a man playing a female and then enjoying watching her be dominated by others is just entertaining some fetishes that some of us have. I don't think that it is indicative of anything really. If me playing a female that is the type to kinda like being dominated sexually or otherwise means squat to someone, then so be it- I don't give a fuck about their opinion. I never understood why any kind of sexual "deviance" is persecuted in a game while explicit, graphic violence is actually quite acceptable and expected by the game's creators and all who play them.

[GrimReaper]

1 hour ago, 222304 said:

from an outside perspective you're acting way out of line. being condescending is not an appropriate way to get your point across.

How about you read the whole conversation because I'm sure you haven't. I just turned the tables around and did some over-analyzing about his behavior, nothing else. Of course this is pretty stupid, which was the whole point.

[MyNameIsnt]

Just now, GrimReaper said:

How about you read the whole conversation because I'm sure you haven't. I just turned the tables around and did some over-analyzing about his behavior, nothing else. Of course this is pretty stupid, which was the whole point.

I'm definitely not taking sides here because neither of you seem to know how to debate without throwing around petty insults, but I go by the philosophy that if you take something that somebody posts on a personal level, then maybe you're not emotionally ready for the internet yet.

[GrimReaper]

2 hours ago, 222304 said:

I'm definitely not taking sides here because neither of you seem to know how to debate without throwing around petty insults, but I go by the philosophy that if you take something that somebody posts on a personal level, then maybe you're not emotionally ready for the internet yet.

I'm not emotionally invested in this conversation and if you think I am, well, I'm afraid to tell you that you're wrong. It's quite interesting how a bit of pretty tame banter gives people the impression you type seething with rage while shaking one fist in anger.

[SexDwarf2250]

12 hours ago, Veladarius said:

Don't bother telling me I have mental issues or anything like that, the things that happen in my Skyrim game are various fetishes I have that I would not otherwise act on. I do have actual mental issues that I see a psychiatrist for but anything here pales in comparison and is not related as they have been around far longer than Skyrim or adult mods in other TES games.

Heavens forbid someone see a widespread trend that differs based on gender and considers if maybe people's psychology can influence their habits. If it makes you feel better, I wasn't talking about any individuals. I'm well aware it's conjecture, exceptions exist, etc.

10 hours ago, yatol said:

and where are your so much better looking males to compare?
In the screenshot I posted, look for the small figure in the center for your man-staring pleasures. That's my character. I never said they looked better, though, did I?

if it's your thing to stare at rambo ass when you play

Once more: I have plenty of bimbo ass to stare at when I feel like it. Did I mention the screenshot in the post your'e actually replying to?

and if you don't like how your female look, why do you keep that mod?

What makes you think I don't like how females look...? It doesn't hurt my eyes if I look at a man once in a while either, though.

there's much more choice for females than for males

That is somewhat true, when it comes to adjusting body types, there are more butt and tit mods than nut and dick mods, but as far as I am concerned, males aren't so much for looking at.

strange isn't it if the ones that play females are "special"?

Well you have to specify. It's normal for women to play as females. The last polls I read suggested around 98% of women prefer not to play as men. Similar recent polls for men range much closer to a 50/50 split, with none of them going below 70/30.

what's the point to have forty twelves nude followers around anyway?

Because "the view is better." Who said that? Oh yeah, it was you.

playing as the general of a follower army? i'll kill stuff myself, less boring

I kill stuff myself as well. You just have to use your imagination a little to realize it might be possible to have followers that don't kill things. (Thank you, Paradise Halls.)  If I do get bored and have them fight, you'll notice they generally have fists and no armor, so it's more a matter of amusement. They tend to get knocked over and molested, though sometimes they pummel things down with sheer numbers, and if they manage, I allow them to enjoy their Thalmor-pegging time before the elves die. Normally I do outfit them with some nice collars and DD gear, but I got the pack of girls out just for the screenshot.

 

[FlyingSpaceRhino]

i feel like a lot of people are overthinking this tbh

 

I just want to play video games and watch sexytimes. Since I’m a straight dude, playing as a girl is optimal for this, since most sexytimes will be between the player and an NPC, so by playing as a girl I can get more lewd content that is enjoyable to me. (I could just play as a man and disable gay stuff, but that would severely lower the frequency of sexytimes, since most NPCs are men or male creatures)

 

Also what other people said about looking at a cute girl PC being more stimulating to me than a male PC (which is why I play female characters in normal games without lewd mods).

 

Also holy shit there’s a lot of toxicity in this thread ?. I just wanna discuss vidya and lewd mods.

[HansJochaimMarseilles]

Straight male, Unpopular opinion here:

 

I can't ever play a female character. Ever. Even if it's to roleplay fucking other women. It's just my psyche and attitude or something. Other games too like Mass effect, Dragon Age, or any MMO I just don't ever want to be female.

 

If I'm going "that" route I play a male character and have a harem of female companions that are my slaves/bodyguards/wives etc. If they do things to each other that's fine with me. But the thing is that's not really a big concern with me and I'd like to think my actual canon lore play through is my dovakhin who is a rather realistic character that has a close knit group of friends that actually travel and love each other and not just casual sex encounters with every bandit giving everyone aids which I find meaningless and tasteless.

 

If I use those sex mods and do some troll fantasy saves, I really just do it to counter female fantasies that are just as "bad" and trashy. The difference here is that I'm aware what I'm doing is for ironic reasons vs a lot of fangirls who really are not able to discern fantasy from reality.

 

In a girl's mind, having two straight men fucking each other will simply happen for no reason and for the sake of her. I'm going to be more realistic and say "yea ok I'm a huge name in Skyrim and women submit themselves to me because I have money and status, they don't actually want to have sex with each other or necessarily do these things except to gain my favor for pragmatic reasons". A succubus follower may put on a stupid outfit but I dress most female companions sensibly: warriors with full body plate armour, warm clothes for winter.

 

The "Stronk independent woman" is a dumb meme. It really is, you've been brainwashed by lefty media. Men lead and most women enjoy it when she gets dominated and led by an alpha masculine figure. I'm not sure if some of you really understand that, but women have rape fantasies with strong men.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[GrimReaper]

And you don't seem to know that the alpha male is a meme in itself. It's a game, folks. If you want to start overthinking everything you'll end up like the loonies who preach that only violent psychopaths that just don't know that they're psychopaths yet can enjoy violent games. I mean, who in their right mind would enjoy murdering hundreds, nay, thousands of people just for the sake of it? Clearly there must be something wrong with those gamers!