missymaster Posted November 19, 2016 Posted November 19, 2016 my game keeps crashin on startup here is my load order if anyone can find the problem let me know 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp 6 6 SexLab.esm 7 7 SexLabAroused.esm 8 8 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 9 9 CreatureFramework.esm 10 a RaceCompatibility.esm 11 b hdtHighHeel.esm 12 c Heels Sound.esm 13 d BeeingFemale.esm 14 e DreadPrison.esm 15 f Campfire.esm 16 10 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 17 11 Devious Devices - Assets.esm 18 12 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 19 13 Inn Girls Resources.esm 20 14 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 21 15 ScocLB.esm 22 16 dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm 23 17 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 24 18 DeviousFramework.esm 25 19 TouringCarriages.esp 26 1a RingsofOP.esp 27 1b Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp 28 1c Immersive Jewelry.esp 29 1d Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp 30 1e brat_overstocked_merchants_sp0.esp 31 1f cheat ring.esp 32 20 flanseyesforskrim.esp 33 21 jrs_alteredvanillahoods.esp 34 22 lockpickpro.esp 35 23 skillfreedom.esp 36 24 pickpocket redesigned.esp 37 25 unburden.esp 38 26 wa ribbon.esp 39 27 SkyUI.esp 40 28 KS Hairdo's.esp 41 29 SD Cages.esp 42 2a Immersive Wenches.esp 43 2b SexLab_Solutions.esp 44 2c Shout Like a Virgin.esp 45 2d hydra_slavegirls.esp 46 2e Captured Dreams.esp 47 2f AKSkyrimUnderground.esp 48 30 Point The Way.esp 49 31 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 50 32 DwarvenObjectsRecipes.esp 51 33 Convertible Azura's Star.esp 52 34 Craftable Artifacts.esp 53 35 FNIS.esp 54 36 FNIS_PCEA2.esp 55 37 FNISSexyMove.esp 56 38 More Vanilla Horses.esp 57 39 Atlas Legendary.esp 58 3a SL01AmuletsSkyrim.esp 59 3b sanguinesDebauchery.esp 60 3c Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 61 3d DeviousRegulations.esp 62 3e Actualize Apparel.esp 63 3f notalkdetection.esp 64 40 IndividualizedShoutCooldowns.esp 65 41 GoOnAhead.esp 66 42 DifficultArchery_200 auto.esp 67 43 Pincushion - MoreArrows.esp 68 44 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 69 45 SimpleSlavery.esp 70 46 s23_MCFE+CU.esp 71 47 WeightlessOreIngotsPeltsGems.esp 72 48 More Craftables.esp 73 49 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 74 4a Devious Cidhna.esp 75 4b MilkModNEW.esp 76 4c MilkMod_MilkPumpsBasicB.esp 77 4d SexLab_Dialogues.esp 78 4e SL99Exchanger.esp 79 4f S_L_U_T_S.esp 80 50 Deviously Enslaved.esp 81 51 SOS - Shop.esp 82 52 DeviousMagic.esp 83 53 Dwemer Longrifle.esp 84 54 Dwemer Goggles & Scouter.esp 85 55 OhmesRaht.esp 86 56 Alchemy Tomes.esp 87 57 Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp 88 58 Scholar's Trail.esp 89 59 travelerscoveredwagon.esp 90 5a Crossbow Pack.esp 91 5b gifts of akatosh.esp 92 5c SexLab Eager NPCs.esp 93 5d RelationshipDialougeSystem.esp 94 5e DreadPrisonAddon01.esp 95 5f j3x-autocrossbows.esp 96 60 restoration_spell cleanse.esp 97 61 craftingsupples_aio_all.esp 98 62 Remove Your.esp 99 63 Book Of Life.esp 100 64 Riding Styles.esp 101 65 instant merchant.esp 102 66 ringofinvisibility.esp 103 67 Nine_Divines_Amulet_1.1.esp 104 68 DreadPrisonAddon02.esp 105 69 Chesko_WearableLantern.esp 106 6a AmuletMerchant.esp 107 6b The Business of the Fourth Era.esp 108 6c AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp 109 6d AFT_ManagedFollowerBoost.esp 110 6e ArrowRecoverySystemOverhaul.esp 111 6f ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hazardous.esp 112 70 ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp 113 71 ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-3.esp 114 72 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp 115 73 MainMenu.esp 116 74 SkyCompleteLegendary.esp 117 75 UIExtensions.esp 118 76 Naked Potema.esp 119 77 ArrowsOfMight1.2.esp 120 78 DeviouslyTraining.esp 121 79 bound arrows.esp 122 7a Underwater Swimming.esp 123 7b Steel Bolts For All.esp 124 7c Bolts For Weapon Vendors.esp 125 7d JaxonzEnhGrab.esp 126 7e Mighty Beasts - Werewolf.esp 127 7f SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 128 80 RaceMenu.esp 129 81 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 130 82 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 131 83 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 132 84 WeightlessScrolls.esp 133 85 WeightlessPotions.esp 134 86 WeightlessFood.esp 135 87 WeightlessDwemerSmeltables.esp 136 88 WeightlessDragonClaws.esp 137 89 WeightlessDragonBones.esp 138 8a WeightlessCraftedPotions.esp 139 8b WeightlessAlchemyIngredients.esp 140 8c XPMSE.esp 141 8d SOSRaceMenu.esp 142 8e MoreNastyCritters.esp 143 8f SexLabWerewolves.esp 144 90 SexLabWerewolvesMB.esp 145 91 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 146 92 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 147 93 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 148 94 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 149 95 HDT Havok Object.esp 150 96 AddItemMenu.esp 151 97 Jennifer.esp 152 98 12FemaleBrows.esp 153 99 KS Hairdos - HDT.esp 154 9a HDTTailsEquipable.esp 155 9b VS Paige Hood.esp 156 9c Kaw's Claws.esp 157 9d CharacterMakingExtender.esp 158 9e EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp 159 9f Skyrim Sizes.esp 160 a0 SkyrimSizesLore.esp 161 a1 RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp 162 a2 tbdrace.esp 163 a3 Bondage Straps.esp 164 a4 HDT Piercingsets.esp 165 a5 XiNafay - Shoes.esp 166 a6 Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp 167 a7 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp 168 a8 Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp 169 a9 Deadly Wenches.esp 170 aa Armbinders_With_Hands.esp 171 ab BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp 172 ac BFAP v1.3.esp 173 ad Blush When Aroused.esp 174 ae wristbinder.esp 175 af WetFunction.esp 176 b0 Jugs.esp 177 b1 dc-mana-tanks-000.esp 178 b2 DibellanDefender.esp 179 b3 Horgasm.esp 180 b4 Devious Punishment Equipment.esp 181 b5 DeviouslyHelpless.esp 182 b6 SWT1.2.esp 183 b7 TTT_ArousedNips.esp 184 b8 SerialStrip.esp 185 b9 SerialStripper.esp 186 ba SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp 187 bb dc-untamed-000.esp 188 bc Luxury Collection.esp 189 bd Animated Fairy Wings.esp 190 be tentacleArmor.esp 191 bf Enchanted Devious Devices.esp 192 c0 ScoclbQuestSexlab.esp 193 c1 JSW_GoldMaster.esp 194 c2 TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp 195 c3 Extended Slider Colors.esp 196 c4 SRfreckles.esp 197 c5 SLAnimLoader.esp 198 c6 GPSRing.esp 199 c7 arousing_weather_plugin.esp 200 c8 arousing_weather_climates_of_tamriel.esp 201 c9 ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp 202 ca SlaveTats.esp 203 cb NibblesAnimObjects.esp 204 cc FtM_3 - CCOR.esp 205 cd SL01AmuletsSkyrimDGDB_Outfit_CCOR.esp 206 ce ExtraPocket.esp 207 cf DW.esp 208 d0 PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp 209 d1 PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp 210 d2 Devious Devices - Equip.esp 211 d3 EggFactory.esp 212 d4 spectralhorse.esp 213 d5 PetCollar.esp 214 d6 sr_FillHerUp.esp 215 d7 Ultimate Leveling Potion.esp 216 d8 impregnation plug.esp 217 d9 yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp 218 da Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 219 db ExtendedStay.esp 220 dc ExtendedStay - Campfire Add-On.esp 221 dd Apropos.esp 222 de DietBasedButt.esp 223 df EstrusChaurus.esp 224 e0 Hydra Devious Devices Patch.esp 225 e1 dcc-dm2.esp 226 e2 DfwSupport.esp 227 e3 MilkModNEW CF.esp 228 e4 MilkModNEW HF.esp 229 e5 MilkModNEW Sanbox.esp 230 e6 DreadPrisonMilkingFarm.esp 231 e7 GoldenVendors.esp 232 e8 SGS.esp 233 e9 Sneak Tools.esp 234 ea Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp 235 eb Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp 236 ec SexLab Inflation Framework.esp 237 ed Devious Deviants.esp 238 ee _001_StashSacks.esp 239 ef SexistGuards.esp 240 f0 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
swmas Posted November 19, 2016 Posted November 19, 2016 You should probably merge some mods, you have too many.
allsunday Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 240 plugins isn't bad. I have 253 plugins exactly with 100 of them merged together here and there. Game works fine. First thing's first, since you didn't mention it: have you used TESVEdit to find any conflicting mods yet? Normally TESVEdit or LOOT can identify the problem. Actually, LOOT has never failed to identify a mod/plugin conflict for me --- ever. And I have a lot of mods as I've already stated. Heck, people give Nexus Mod Manager a bad rep but I noticed that it also identifies mod/plugin conflicts. Lol.If none of these options work, a very simple solution that most people don't think of is to go to your downloaded mods folder and arrange them by date and uninstall the most recently installed mods until the process of elimination solves the problem for you.
missymaster Posted November 20, 2016 Author Posted November 20, 2016 Loot found conflicts and I've fixed them still doesn't work and hasn't worked for over a month so too many mods to go back and check
Sneaksmile Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 I have 254 active plugins and 150 Mods merged and my game run like butter. I do not think your problem is the amount of mods, I'm not an expert girl in this things but I want to help ... so the only occasions in which Skyrim gives me CTD at startup it is when Loot mark in red color an error in the mod that causes the CTD.
allsunday Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 I have 254 active plugins and 150 Mods merged and my game run like butter. I do not think your problem is the amount of mods, I'm not an expert girl in this things but I want to help ... so the only occasions in which Skyrim gives me CTD at startup it is when Loot mark in red color an error in the mod that causes the CTD.Nice. I wish there were more insane modders like us. I would love to see pictures of your game. Please share! Yours too, Missfucksalot, if we can get your game running again. Huh... I just noticed your name is kind of... different.
allsunday Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 Loot found conflicts and I've fixed them still doesn't work and hasn't worked for over a month so too many mods to go back and check Those conflicts that LOOT found... how did you fix them and what mods were they? Please provide more descriptive info so we can help you. What I would've done is disabled those conflicting mods completely and then try to reload the game to successfully bootup first. When looking through your mod installation history, logic would dictate that it would mostly be mods that change or add scripts that will be the mods causing your problem. Ignore armor mods, weapon mods, and texture mods. I'm sure this will narrow down the culprit mod significantly. A month is not too long of a time period.
Shiratama Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 Startup crash is due to a missing master in the vast majority of cases. One of your mods has at least one requirement you don't meet. Also, you really don't want to install both RaceMenu and Enhanced Character Edit at the same time. Drop one, preferably ECE. Edit: Wait, your wording is a bit vague so for confirmation. Do you crash at the Skyrim logo (startup) or when you load a save? If it's the latter, it's probably due to FNIS.
meme supreme Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 Hey, I used to crash a lot for no discernable reason. No conflicts, all my mods were ok, but I did happen to have a gorillion mods like you... I went in Documents\my games\Skyrim and added fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=750.0 below [Papyrus].No more crashes. You might have more script intensive mods, no real idea there, so if that doesn't help turn it up to 1000. It seems to increase the load time and gives mods more time to set themselves up.Also try running Crash Fixes with its special memory allocation.
missymaster Posted November 20, 2016 Author Posted November 20, 2016 Loot found conflicts and I've fixed them still doesn't work and hasn't worked for over a month so too many mods to go back and check Correction loot found missing requirements not conflicts Those conflicts that LOOT found... how did you fix them and what mods were they? Please provide more descriptive info so we can help you. What I would've done is disabled those conflicting mods completely and then try to reload the game to successfully bootup first. When looking through your mod installation history, logic would dictate that it would mostly be mods that change or add scripts that will be the mods causing your problem. Ignore armor mods, weapon mods, and texture mods. I'm sure this will narrow down the culprit mod significantly. A month is not too long of a time period. Startup crash is due to a missing master in the vast majority of cases. One of your mods has at least one requirement you don't meet. Also, you really don't want to install both RaceMenu and Enhanced Character Edit at the same time. Drop one, preferably ECE. Edit: Wait, your wording is a bit vague so for confirmation. Do you crash at the Skyrim logo (startup) or when you load a save? If it's the latter, it's probably due to FNIS. I crash upon loading my saves Hey, I used to crash a lot for no discernable reason. No conflicts, all my mods were ok, but I did happen to have a gorillion mods like you... I went in Documents\my games\Skyrim and added fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=750.0 below [Papyrus]. No more crashes. You might have more script intensive mods, no real idea there, so if that doesn't help turn it up to 1000. It seems to increase the load time and gives mods more time to set themselves up. Also try running Crash Fixes with its special memory allocation. What exactly is added and how I can't really understand that bit
Shiratama Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 I crash upon loading my saves Lots of reasons this could happen but even after solving all conflicts manually with Tes5Edit this occasionally happens to me if I go over a certain number of installed animations. According to fore there isn't anything that can be done about that and the actual threshold varies depending of your mod setup and hardware. Workaround: - Create a save immediately after creating your character (preferably with an alternate start mod). - Keep that save and don't ever overwrite it. - When you start Skyrim, load that save first, and then load the one you actually want to play with.
missymaster Posted November 20, 2016 Author Posted November 20, 2016 I have 254 active plugins and 150 Mods merged and my game run like butter. I do not think your problem is the amount of mods, I'm not an expert girl in this things but I want to help ... so the only occasions in which Skyrim gives me CTD at startup it is when Loot mark in red color an error in the mod that causes the CTD.Nice. I wish there were more insane modders like us. I would love to see pictures of your game. Please share! Yours too, Missfucksalot, if we can get your game running again. Huh... I just noticed your name is kind of... different. Yeah kinda created the name on a drunken dare probably gonna try to change it even if I lose the bet
Nazzzgul666 Posted November 20, 2016 Posted November 20, 2016 What meme supreme meant was an entry in your Skyrim.ini. it should look like this, without the comments behind <- [Papyrus] fUpdateBudgetMS=2 <- more time for scripts. Less performance, better stability. Default is 1.2 and afaik it should be increased in .4 steps. fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=2 <-similar fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2500.0 <-more time to load stuff during loading screens. Default is 500. 2500MS means 2.5 seconds... still fine for me. iMinMemoryPageSize=128 <- i admit, i don't really remember what the whoöe memory stuff exactly was for. something about papyrus (=script) memory. iMaxMemoryPageSize=768 iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=153600
missymaster Posted November 21, 2016 Author Posted November 21, 2016 What meme supreme meant was an entry in your Skyrim.ini. it should look like this, without the comments behind <- [Papyrus] fUpdateBudgetMS=2 <- more time for scripts. Less performance, better stability. Default is 1.2 and afaik it should be increased in .4 steps. fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=2 <-similar fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2500.0 <-more time to load stuff during loading screens. Default is 500. 2500MS means 2.5 seconds... still fine for me. iMinMemoryPageSize=128 <- i admit, i don't really remember what the whoöe memory stuff exactly was for. something about papyrus (=script) memory. iMaxMemoryPageSize=768 iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=153600 Under papyrus I only see the one that says fpostloadupdatetimems and there are only 4 lines under papyrus and then it goes straight to water without a space between the lines am I missing something
Nazzzgul666 Posted November 22, 2016 Posted November 22, 2016 What meme supreme meant was an entry in your Skyrim.ini. it should look like this, without the comments behind <- [Papyrus] fUpdateBudgetMS=2 <- more time for scripts. Less performance, better stability. Default is 1.2 and afaik it should be increased in .4 steps. fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=2 <-similar fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=2500.0 <-more time to load stuff during loading screens. Default is 500. 2500MS means 2.5 seconds... still fine for me. iMinMemoryPageSize=128 <- i admit, i don't really remember what the whoöe memory stuff exactly was for. something about papyrus (=script) memory. iMaxMemoryPageSize=768 iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=153600 Under papyrus I only see the one that says fpostloadupdatetimems and there are only 4 lines under papyrus and then it goes straight to water without a space between the lines am I missing something Afaik there is no Papysrus section in the Skyrim.ini by default, but it seems you already did something. You need to add the entries you want manually, for default values you can also just leave them. I just added the default values to give you a clue.
Sneaksmile Posted November 23, 2016 Posted November 23, 2016 I have 254 active plugins and 150 Mods merged and my game run like butter. I do not think your problem is the amount of mods, I'm not an expert girl in this things but I want to help ... so the only occasions in which Skyrim gives me CTD at startup it is when Loot mark in red color an error in the mod that causes the CTD.Nice. I wish there were more insane modders like us. I would love to see pictures of your game. Please share! Yours too, Missfucksalot, if we can get your game running again. Huh... I just noticed your name is kind of... different. Why do you want to see images of my game? It's crazy, I've turned Skyrim into a Femdom planet. Crazy things happen in my game and women always win ... with great cruelty most of the time.
missymaster Posted November 25, 2016 Author Posted November 25, 2016 I have 254 active plugins and 150 Mods merged and my game run like butter. I do not think your problem is the amount of mods, I'm not an expert girl in this things but I want to help ... so the only occasions in which Skyrim gives me CTD at startup it is when Loot mark in red color an error in the mod that causes the CTD.Nice. I wish there were more insane modders like us. I would love to see pictures of your game. Please share! Yours too, Missfucksalot, if we can get your game running again. Huh... I just noticed your name is kind of... different. Why do you want to see images of my game? It's crazy, I've turned Skyrim into a Femdom planet. Crazy things happen in my game and women always win ... with great cruelty most of the time. really using what mods
allsunday Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 I have 254 active plugins and 150 Mods merged and my game run like butter. I do not think your problem is the amount of mods, I'm not an expert girl in this things but I want to help ... so the only occasions in which Skyrim gives me CTD at startup it is when Loot mark in red color an error in the mod that causes the CTD.Nice. I wish there were more insane modders like us. I would love to see pictures of your game. Please share! Yours too, Missfucksalot, if we can get your game running again. Huh... I just noticed your name is kind of... different. Why do you want to see images of my game? It's crazy, I've turned Skyrim into a Femdom planet. Crazy things happen in my game and women always win ... with great cruelty most of the time. really using what mods LMAO! That just makes it even more interesting. Like "what the hell?" interesting.
Halleaon Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 a lot of things can cause a game to crash on load, i have/had this problem due to the number of mods I have and the papyrus load/save game bloat, but usually loading coc whiterun or coc qasmoke and then loading the save would fix it, but it was super annoying to do so every time, so I installed: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/78557/? and it worked like a charm.
missymaster Posted November 25, 2016 Author Posted November 25, 2016 So will try everything over the weekend except for removing ece that will have to wait until I fix my other computer and transfer everything onto it
Bazinga Posted November 26, 2016 Posted November 26, 2016 Crashing on loading a save is normal. At least if you just fired up the game again. Even more so as nowadays four or more hundred animations get loaded into Sexlab. It's not normal if you already successfully loaded a game before though. Then there shouldn't be crashes on loading another one. If it still crashes then it could also indicate a load order issue. You probably let Loot handle your load order? Don't do that. Let Loot do the first raw sorting and then get the plugin load order right, first the internal one in mods with more than one esp (readme - Loot always screws up the recommended More Nasty Critters load order for example) and then between mods. What's right? Beats me, but I usually look for mod readmes and I change Loot's presorting if a modder can give me a reason why he claims that his mod should load last (like in case of Sexlab Solutions, clear statements on which mod conflicts it solves if I load that one last) other than "because else it can break". Duh! They all can if they contain scripts or are sophisticated enough. ^^ I also put script-heavy mods near the end of the load order. Especially most things tied to Sexlab. Not always though. Prison Overhaul gets low priority for example because I don't really care if it works 100%, if it doesn't then the mod has enough tools in its MCM menu to fix a lot of issues. So far it seems to work though. But installing too many different script-heavy mods will reduce overall stability of course. Your load order is filled to the brim with them. So maybe get rid of some? Anyway, are you even sure that there is something wrong? The normal way to load a savegame with SL 1.62 and hundreds of animations is to install Live Another Life, start a new game, save that and keep it. And then load that fresh savegame and if it worked then just load the save you really wanted to. Do that every time you restart Skyrim. Oh, I see, Shiratama already beat me to it a week ago. Changing papyrus settings or Crash Fixes and other stability mods don't do jack shit to resolve this issue btw. I'd still recommend using Crash Fixes.
missymaster Posted November 27, 2016 Author Posted November 27, 2016 yeah currently implementing suggested fixes probably wont have time to test until next week
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