PsychoMachina Posted November 18, 2012 Author Posted November 18, 2012 when you say adult elins reminds me of this Exactly. The human Elins will have the same ears, hairs, tails, and race abilities, but the face and body of humans.
dota600 Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 A question. When my castanic or monli uses 'see you sleep' her height reverts to that of normal nord/human height. Then after she wakes and gets up, it is 50/50 if it will revert back to normal loli height. Any idea as to why it is happening and if there are any fix for this?
Mud Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 Say, is there any way to make the Elin compatible with TBBP, from http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=11463? I've been trying to create a curvier, jiggly Elin character.
PsychoMachina Posted November 18, 2012 Author Posted November 18, 2012 A question. When my castanic or monli uses 'see you sleep' her height reverts to that of normal nord/human height. Then after she wakes and gets up' date=' it is 50/50 if it will revert back to normal loli height. Any idea as to why it is happening and if there are any fix for this? [/quote'] I would have to take a look inside using CK. First thing, check your Skyrim.ini and see if there is a [CAMERA] category. If there is and you see some variables that control the camera position, make a backup of Skyrim.ini then open it and delete those variables (under the [CAMERA] category). This should make the Elin's skeleton dictate the camera angles. Another possible solution is to use the camera tweak for Children of the Sky. 3rd-Person. As posted on CotS. http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=4367 Add (or replace - if they already exist) these lines to your Skyrim.ini file in Documents\My Games\Skyrim: [Camera] fOverShoulderCombatAddY=0.0000 fOverShoulderCombatPosZ=-40.0000 fOverShoulderCombatPosX=15.0000 fOverShoulderCombatPosY=0.0000 fOverShoulderPosZ=-40.0000 fOverShoulderPosX=15.0000 fOverShoulderPosY=0.0000 fOverShoulderHorseAddY=-180.0000 fOverShoulderHorsePosZ=60.0000 fOverShoulderHorsePosX=50.0000 If the [Camera] line already exists, don't add it again, and put the rest of the lines under it. These values are good for loli characters, not for normal characters. Say' date=' is there any way to make the Elin compatible with TBBP, from http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=11463? I've been trying to create a curvier, jiggly Elin character. [/quote'] I'll try it out. I also just recently d/l Numenume's Erosbody, I guess I'll try out that one too.
dota600 Posted November 18, 2012 Posted November 18, 2012 A question. When my castanic or monli uses 'see you sleep' her height reverts to that of normal nord/human height. Then after she wakes and gets up' date=' it is 50/50 if it will revert back to normal loli height. Any idea as to why it is happening and if there are any fix for this? [/quote'] I would have to take a look inside using CK. First thing, check your Skyrim.ini and see if there is a [CAMERA] category. If there is and you see some variables that control the camera position, make a backup of Skyrim.ini then open it and delete those variables (under the [CAMERA] category). This should make the Elin's skeleton dictate the camera angles. Another possible solution is to use the camera tweak for Children of the Sky. 3rd-Person. As posted on CotS. http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=4367 Add (or replace - if they already exist) these lines to your Skyrim.ini file in Documents\My Games\Skyrim: [Camera] fOverShoulderCombatAddY=0.0000 fOverShoulderCombatPosZ=-40.0000 fOverShoulderCombatPosX=15.0000 fOverShoulderCombatPosY=0.0000 fOverShoulderPosZ=-40.0000 fOverShoulderPosX=15.0000 fOverShoulderPosY=0.0000 fOverShoulderHorseAddY=-180.0000 fOverShoulderHorsePosZ=60.0000 fOverShoulderHorsePosX=50.0000 If the [Camera] line already exists, don't add it again, and put the rest of the lines under it. These values are good for loli characters, not for normal characters. Say' date=' is there any way to make the Elin compatible with TBBP, from http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=11463? I've been trying to create a curvier, jiggly Elin character. [/quote'] I'll try it out. I also just recently d/l Numenume's Erosbody, I guess I'll try out that one too. Well... sorry but I dont have a creation kit, nor am I good at philpering codes and data inside a program so I really am inclined not to mess with such things. If there is a way(like downloading an additonal .esp) to correct the bug in where little sis castanics and Monli's changing their height when they go to rest on a bed, I would love to know. Also thanks for the insights and the help.
PsychoMachina Posted November 18, 2012 Author Posted November 18, 2012 A question. When my castanic or monli uses 'see you sleep' her height reverts to that of normal nord/human height. Then after she wakes and gets up' date=' it is 50/50 if it will revert back to normal loli height. Any idea as to why it is happening and if there are any fix for this? [/quote'] I would have to take a look inside using CK. First thing, check your Skyrim.ini and see if there is a [CAMERA] category. If there is and you see some variables that control the camera position, make a backup of Skyrim.ini then open it and delete those variables (under the [CAMERA] category). This should make the Elin's skeleton dictate the camera angles. Another possible solution is to use the camera tweak for Children of the Sky. 3rd-Person. As posted on CotS. http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=4367 Add (or replace - if they already exist) these lines to your Skyrim.ini file in Documents\My Games\Skyrim: [Camera] fOverShoulderCombatAddY=0.0000 fOverShoulderCombatPosZ=-40.0000 fOverShoulderCombatPosX=15.0000 fOverShoulderCombatPosY=0.0000 fOverShoulderPosZ=-40.0000 fOverShoulderPosX=15.0000 fOverShoulderPosY=0.0000 fOverShoulderHorseAddY=-180.0000 fOverShoulderHorsePosZ=60.0000 fOverShoulderHorsePosX=50.0000 If the [Camera] line already exists, don't add it again, and put the rest of the lines under it. These values are good for loli characters, not for normal characters. Say' date=' is there any way to make the Elin compatible with TBBP, from http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=11463? I've been trying to create a curvier, jiggly Elin character. [/quote'] I'll try it out. I also just recently d/l Numenume's Erosbody, I guess I'll try out that one too. Well... sorry but I dont have a creation kit, nor am I good at philpering codes and data inside a program so I really am inclined not to mess with such things. If there is a way(like downloading an additonal .esp) to correct the bug in where little sis castanics and Monli's changing their height when they go to rest on a bed, I would love to know. Also thanks for the insights and the help. Actually, I was planning on looking at the See You Sleep mod in CK, particularly at any scripts. The Skyrim.ini can be found in Documents > My Game > Skyrim folder. Open it in notepad and check for [CAMERA] and any entries just underneath of it. This makes adjustments to the 3rd-person camera position for idle, combat, and horseback. Make a backup of Skyrim.ini first before changing the values (or adding the entries if there are none to begin with) with the ones Jiitek provided for the CotS race.
PsychoMachina Posted November 19, 2012 Author Posted November 19, 2012 @Dota600 I started a new game with my lsCastanic. I tried See You Sleeping and slept in one of the bed's in Gerder's house. Everything works fine, except I experienced the bug you mentioned. However, if I had her sleep again, she will return to lsCastanic height. What is strange is that each time she sleeps and wakes up, her height will keep switching between adult and child and back to adult (then back to child). I checked Nexus and people are having some strange problems with this mod and not just the DB quest. I checked the link to the modder's forum, but it requires registration to access the forums. So, for now, if your character's height changes to that of an adult, have her sleep for up to 5 minutes and when she wakes up, her height will be restored.
nabaeru Posted November 19, 2012 Posted November 19, 2012 @Psychomachina Just passing by to inform. I think it has something to do with rescaling everytime player character goes to sleep. Actually, every NPC will be rescaled to fit the bed when they crawl to their beds to sleep, not just you. I consoled my Elin to her ideal height 0.8, upon exiting the bed, her height got restored to 1. Tested with the Puppeteer mod, using the furniture crawl to bed animation without activating the bed (just stand on top of bed and play the animation). Noticed that 'unscaled to bed' model is actually bigger.
dota600 Posted November 20, 2012 Posted November 20, 2012 @Dota600 I started a new game with my lsCastanic. I tried See You Sleeping and slept in one of the bed's in Gerder's house. Everything works fine' date=' except I experienced the bug you mentioned. However, if I had her sleep again, she will return to lsCastanic height. What is strange is that each time she sleeps and wakes up, her height will keep switching between adult and child and back to adult (then back to child). I checked Nexus and people are having some strange problems with this mod and not just the DB quest. I checked the link to the modder's forum, but it requires registration to access the forums. So, for now, if your character's height changes to that of an adult, have her sleep for up to 5 minutes and when she wakes up, her height will be restored. [/quote'] I've been doing that to restore my height to normal, if not I reload the game after my character sleeps and it fixes the problem. Its just that it breaks my immersion to the game when my character suddenly grows up. Anyway thanks for the help, I hope that the problem can be solved in the future.
PsychoMachina Posted November 20, 2012 Author Posted November 20, 2012 @dota600 and @nabaeru After I tested the mod with my lsCastanic and posted my results, I tested again with my Elin. The bug did not affect her. Three times I had her sleep and upon waking she stayed at the original .8 scale. I tested with Elin Lydia and she was unaffected. The only bug, if it is one, is when I had them sleep naked. Upon waking they remained naked. I'm not sure there will be a fix for races that are smaller than adults.
Mud Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 Does the Elin idle animation need to be updated for 1.8 and FNIS 3.3.2? I noticed my dual-wielding Elin companion has her swords duct taped to her hands after combat ends, and I'm not sure if that's the cause. FNIS spits out a lot of duplicate behaviors from the mod if I run the behavior consistence check, though.
melonny Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 The adult Elin will ever get to play it? looks good ...... Now I'm playing the scroll oblivion. But to get back to Skyrim will be something new ... Now I do not plan to go back ....
PsychoMachina Posted November 21, 2012 Author Posted November 21, 2012 Updated ElinRace.esm and ElinRaceIdle.esp for Skyrim v1.8.151.0 @Mud Ran GenerateFNIS for Users and all went well until I checked for Behavior Consistencies. FNIS found 435 Duplicate AnimEvents. This did not happen with FNIS v3.1.1. Install both updated Elinrace.esm and ElinRaceIdle.esp and hopefully that fixed your problem. If the problem persists, I doubt it is the idle files themselves, but rather the latest FNIS that is the cause of the problem. I'll be updating all of the Elin Race master files and plugins for Skyrim v1.8 and a separate update for Skyrim + Dawnguard. @Melonny The human Elins, adult and child, are still in the works. I should have it ready for release before Christmas.
achIIIes Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 Hi PsychoMachina! First of all, I have to say thanks for all your efforts and hardwork making these mods available to everyone. However, I seem to be having some trouble with my Elin. I tried the CBBE-BBP and UNP Body on her and there seemed to be a problem in every turn. In CBBE, specifically the CBBE-Slim flat body, this happens: Pic Her chest looks heavily distorted. I think it happens to the other CBBE bodies too. >.< In UNP, specifically the UNP-Tight body, this happens, Pic There seems to be a mismatch with her head's color with her body. I installed the mods in the right order as was written in thread. So I don't really know what's wrong. D:
Neko-chan Posted November 21, 2012 Posted November 21, 2012 hi, just tried this mod but feel like I am putting a round peg into a square hole. The body meshes are broken into sub-sections which overlap or don't connect. Is there a way to make the boob size bigger? I accidentally used it with minilovers and had to jump when the other person fell to the floor in order to stop the animation(only race mod that seems to have this). how do i get the anime style armour?
PsychoMachina Posted November 21, 2012 Author Posted November 21, 2012 Hi PsychoMachina! First of all' date=' I have to say thanks for all your efforts and hardwork making these mods available to everyone. However, I seem to be having some trouble with my Elin. I tried the CBBE-BBP and UNP Body on her and there seemed to be a problem in every turn. In CBBE, specifically the CBBE-Slim flat body, this happens: Pic Her chest looks heavily distorted. I think it happens to the other CBBE bodies too. >.< In UNP, specifically the UNP-Tight body, this happens, Pic There seems to be a mismatch with her head's color with her body. I installed the mods in the right order as was written in thread. So I don't really know what's wrong. D: Hello achIIIes The problem with CBBE Slim Flat body is the breast physics. The screenshot for that particular body is misleading because, even at max scale, the breasts look elongated similar to CHSBHC instead of roundish. That is why it looks distorted at minimum scale. Luckily it does not affect the other body options because the breasts are larger. I'll see what I can do, maybe try new meshes. I'll also do something about making the head color better match the body. hi' date=' just tried this mod but feel like I am putting a round peg into a square hole. The body meshes are broken into sub-sections which overlap or don't connect. Is there a way to make the boob size bigger? I accidentally used it with minilovers and had to jump when the other person fell to the floor in order to stop the animation(only race mod that seems to have this). how do i get the anime style armour? [/quote'] Hello Neko-chan I do not understand. What do you mean when you say "the body meshes are broken into subsections which overlap or don't connect." Can you provide screenshots, that would help. The CBBE body has various breasts sizes up to 'silly huge'. The UNP is limited and for UNP, it should be that way. I don't use MiniLovers, AP, or anything similar so I can't help you with that. What anime armors are you refering to? The Tera armors? If so, I have the links in my original post. Look for the 'TERA - WEAPONS AND ARMORS' section under 'NEW ELIN RACE'. Also there are some new UNP armors on Nexus. If you plan on using them on the Elins, make sure to install the BBP fix by Calyps. I have the link in my original post under 'PATCHES AND FIXES' section.
achIIIes Posted November 22, 2012 Posted November 22, 2012 Hi PsychoMachina! First of all' date=' I have to say thanks for all your efforts and hardwork making these mods available to everyone. However, I seem to be having some trouble with my Elin. I tried the CBBE-BBP and UNP Body on her and there seemed to be a problem in every turn. In CBBE, specifically the CBBE-Slim flat body, this happens: Pic Her chest looks heavily distorted. I think it happens to the other CBBE bodies too. >.< In UNP, specifically the UNP-Tight body, this happens, Pic There seems to be a mismatch with her head's color with her body. I installed the mods in the right order as was written in thread. So I don't really know what's wrong. D: Hello achIIIes The problem with CBBE Slim Flat body is the breast physics. The screenshot for that particular body is misleading because, even at max scale, the breasts look elongated similar to CHSBHC instead of roundish. That is why it looks distorted at minimum scale. Luckily it does not affect the other body options because the breasts are larger. I'll see what I can do, maybe try new meshes. I'll also do something about making the head color better match the body. Yay! Thanks for the prompt reply. Oh yeah, I was trying to match the unp head with the body as close as possible but I noticed when I save the game then load it again it converts to a certain dark shade that isn't part of four selections for complexion in the head options. Is that the bug which causes darker heads? Weird enough I don't have CoTs installed. D: Update: Upon trying out different skeletons and textures, I've discovered if I used the DspSoB skeletons in the CBBE pack, the breasts don't elongate anymore (yay!) unfortunately, my Elin's race and description turns back into the squares (or is it back to Japanese?) I tried installing the translation fixes in the thread but it stayed Japanese. Weird. O_o It seems the head-body color mismatch is only really with the fair skinned textures. XD...The one for CBBE body also mismatches. In the UNP body, I tried putting the head textures from the Fair-skinned group to the Default-skinned group and seemed fine, only the neck was mismatched but that can be hidden with the right armors?
PsychoMachina Posted November 23, 2012 Author Posted November 23, 2012 Yay! Thanks for the prompt reply. Oh yeah' date=' I was trying to match the unp head with the body as close as possible but I noticed when I save the game then load it again it converts to a certain dark shade that isn't part of four selections for complexion in the head options. Is that the bug which causes darker heads? Weird enough I don't have CoTs installed. D: Update: Upon trying out different skeletons and textures, I've discovered if I used the DspSoB skeletons in the CBBE pack, the breasts don't elongate anymore (yay!) unfortunately, my Elin's race and description turns back into the squares (or is it back to Japanese?) I tried installing the translation fixes in the thread but it stayed Japanese. Weird. O_o It seems the head-body color mismatch is only really with the fair skinned textures. XD...The one for CBBE body also mismatches. In the UNP body, I tried putting the head textures from the Fair-skinned group to the Default-skinned group and seemed fine, only the neck was mismatched but that can be hidden with the right armors? [/quote'] Hello AchIIIes Thank you for pointing out the fix for the distorted CBBE Slim Flat chest problem. I tried it and it would seem both the DSpSoB skeleton and the DSpSoB + bow fix skeleton improves her breasts at both min and max. I retouched Complexions 1 and 2 for the Fair-skin body. The lighter neck does not quite blend perfectly with the Fair-skin body, but at least she does not have a dark head, which, btw, is not a bug, but rather the texture color itself. I still have a lot to do before releasing some major updates. I need to update the master files and plugins for the latest Skyrim update AND make new ones for the update + Dawnguard.
Mud Posted November 23, 2012 Posted November 23, 2012 By the way, it's been a while since I last downloaded any updates for the Elin race, and the version I had didn't play any voice clips for standard attacks. Power attacks, taking damage, shouts all had voices, but standard swings didn't. Was that ever fixed?
PsychoMachina Posted November 23, 2012 Author Posted November 23, 2012 By the way' date=' it's been a while since I last downloaded any updates for the Elin race, and the version I had didn't play any voice clips for standard attacks. Power attacks, taking damage, shouts all had voices, but standard swings didn't. Was that ever fixed? [/quote'] Elin Race Voice has the voices for weapon attacks and taking damage. This is what I included with the main packs and only has two files, a BSA and ESP. I have 3 different voice files, uploaded 2 in the past, include only 1 with the race files, the third I have yet to use, but it appears to include npc voices, such as one for bards. I'll test it and if it's good, I'll include it with the upcoming updates.
Cloverz Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 I'm completely new to modding races for Skyrim, and also pretty lost. I played an Elin in Tera and wanted to try it out for this one. There weren't any guides that I see on the main page, so I pieced... something together from what I picked up reading others. I downloaded: ApachiiskyHair NER-Monli CBBE-BBP Megapack (Oct 27) NER-Monli_Mainpack (Sep24) I dumped the ApachiiskyHair pack data folder into the skyrim folder I dumped the New-Monli Mainpack into the skyrim folder, replacing Data folder and letting it add everything I then grabbed from the NER-Monli CBBE-BBP Megapack: 00core 01skeleton weapons10 01skeletonweapons10dspsob bow fix body texture and dumped those in one at a time into the data folder, replacing things as they popped up. I launched Nexus Mod Manager, set things in this order: http://imgur.com/Hk0kS There aren't any other mods installed yet, I was starting with this one. I'm pretty sure I royally screwed something up along the way, which I kind of expected! The second I got in to start a new game, my character view was below the seat you sit on during the beginning cart cutscene, though once I got off it seemed normal for the smaller size I'm assuming my character is (even without a chosen race yet) At race selection, I scrolled down to the [][][][][] which was elin, and the initial was a male body with an elin head. Switching the sex changed it to normal elin body. The problem here was, the elin was way below actual character creation heights, so I couldn't really edit the face much. Then I got to hair, and 1/2 the slider was bald, the other half was elin/vanilla hair, but the elin hair all had extra ears. There also don't appear to be any other colors than the default ones. At this point I gave up and decided to bug you guys. Before I continue, I know it's all screwed up. Is there a guide out there for installing all of this correctly? I plan on adding a ton of mods too: Simple Borderless Window Skyui categorized favorite menu Quality world map with roads water jaysusswordsd bucklers Midas magic skyrim Enhanced distance skyrim hd 2k Skyrim Flora Overhaul Lush Grass Lush Trees Static Mesh Improvement Mod asteria Moonpath to Elsweyr Omegared99 - Armor Compilation A Better Whiterun - City Under Construction - BETA Expanded Winterhold Destruction Ruins CLARALUX - More and Brighter Lights Skyrim Monster Mod Sustained Spells Reapers The Dark Tower Immersive Armors Birds of skyrim Conjurable Chest and Crafting Furniture Spells Will any of these conflict with elin race? I read earlier in this post that the elin mod works with existing armor in game (which I'd rather use while playing, just to keep it balanced), including other mods due to the monli models. And one final question, where do you get all the crazy armor/clothings for elins I keep seeing? Particularly the ones on the mannequins mod. Sorry about all the nonsense, I'm a total newb to race mods of any kind.
Cloverz Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 After an hour of tinkering, I think I have most of it settled, though I'm sure bugs will arise. I still have extra ears on the elin haircuts, but I went with the one with headphones instead (though I wish It didn't have headphones, love the hair at least!) I'm assuming a separate mod will be required for better colors. Character creation was fixed in angle with that ini camera tweak poster earlier. It looks like vanilla armor works perfectly fine too. I'll have to try some custom armor out. Any good female armor sets? Skyrim was always pretty conservative. Anyhow, seems stable enough! I probably derped a bunch of stuff, but its working at least.
Mud Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 Elin Race Voice has the voices for weapon attacks and taking damage. This is what I included with the main packs and only has two files' date=' a BSA and ESP. I have 3 different voice files, uploaded 2 in the past, include only 1 with the race files, the third I have yet to use, but it appears to include npc voices, such as one for bards. I'll test it and if it's good, I'll include it with the upcoming updates.[/quote'] Problem was, even though the voice files were there, they didn't play. I downloaded the current files, and normal attacks still played no sound. I'm pretty sure it's not the voice files themselves being weird either, because I can replace them with another voice mod's files and normal attacks will still be silent.
PsychoMachina Posted November 24, 2012 Author Posted November 24, 2012 Elin Race Voice has the voices for weapon attacks and taking damage. This is what I included with the main packs and only has two files' date=' a BSA and ESP. I have 3 different voice files, uploaded 2 in the past, include only 1 with the race files, the third I have yet to use, but it appears to include npc voices, such as one for bards. I'll test it and if it's good, I'll include it with the upcoming updates.[/quote'] Problem was, even though the voice files were there, they didn't play. I downloaded the current files, and normal attacks still played no sound. I'm pretty sure it's not the voice files themselves being weird either, because I can replace them with another voice mod's files and normal attacks will still be silent. So you're saying, you have problems with the game glitching with voice mods and not the mods themselves. If I come across a fix, I'll let you know.
zhylepia Posted November 24, 2012 Posted November 24, 2012 hello sir... i have a problem i download Elin Race with DMRA body mod when she became ragdoll her foot twisted. i think something problem in SkeletonFemale.nif i hope you can solve it
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