Body Mods, which one and how do they work?

[Queen Bee]

Like the title suggests, I'm having a difficult time figuring out which body mod to go with. For the longest time I've gone with CBBE, but now there's all these others out there, and there's armors that go only with those body mods, and I also want jiggle physics, and so on and so forth. It's all very confusing for someone getting back into modding Skyrim after two years away. I'm looking for the best combination of body, textures, and jiggle physics that fits my preferences. I realize not all players have the same preferences, so here's a little breakdown of what I like:

 

Muscle tone: I don't want hardcore muscle tone on my female characters, but a little goes a long way. They shouldn't look like body builders, but they also shouldn't look like they might break in half the first fight they get into.

 

Breasts and butts: I don't mind a nice round ass, but I really don't like gigantic badonks, and I don't like gigantic tits. That said, I also don't necessarily like purely realistic bodies in my game (which is why I went with CBBE for so long). I want something that looks idealized without looking overly fake or lumpy.

 

Jiggle physics: I like a good bit of bounce to my PC, but not to the point you wonder if they're not going to fly off at any given moment. It doesn't have to be insanely realistic (because realistically, my tits don't bounce that much irl), but I don't want to go overboard. A middle of the road approach here would be best.

 

Armors: I like a nice variety of armor types, from the completely lore friendly to the skimpy mail-kinis that leave little to the imagination. I know that most armor sets are now specifically for a certain body mod, so I'm looking for the combination that gives me the biggest variety of options.

 

Visual references: What I'm looking for is something more like this, or this, or this, NOT like this, or this, or this. I hope that helps.

 

So...help a girl out?

[azoth1267]

Tone: not sure honestly, its kind of a toss to find what you specifically want (cause everyone is different).

T and A: bodyslide yo, make what you want.

Physics: HDT, again something you need to make yourself cause you will never be satisfied with what others make... trust me.

Armor: yet another in the air kind of thing, there is no one size fits all place to get what you are looking for, its going to be up to you to work for.

 

From what you are looking for (body shape wise that is), you might want to go with unpb/uunp or whatever the one with bodysliders is called these days

 

Its honestly hard to make suggestions on these things, the best i can suggest is that you lurk around LL and the nexus till you find something thats close enough or take up the mantle and make your own.

[Queen Bee]

Thanks for the advice. The thing with Bodyslide is that you always need a base to build on. I've played around with it in the past (ages ago) so I know a bit about it, and what I recall is that the scales are all different from CBBE to UNPB to Seven Base and so on. I'm tempted to stick with CBBE and use the bodyslides for that, but I'm worried I'll box myself into a corner and cut myself off from armors that I might really want.

 

Texture-wise, I really like the one from the second image on my 'yes' list, the one with her bent over facing the camera. Any idea which one that is? I haven't been able to find it.

[PubliusNV]

I used CBBE for many years, then switched to UUNP and haven't regretted it.  But make your life easier ... check out the All In One mod here.

 

You can choose whether to use UUNP, or CBBE (pick the Clams of Skyrim option in the installed, that's CBBE), choose which skin you want, choose how much jiggle you want, and it will install everything you need.  Get your outfits separately, use Bodyslide, and you're all set.

[Frozium]

UUNP is the most complete bodyslide program, that said though, it lacks a bit of support in my opinion (but it still has tons of armors converted).

 

Also, if you want a "plug and play" body mod, try 7Base/SevenBase, a more athletic varian of UNP compatible with every UNP mod out there (and also many conversions to the shape).

[Zebot]

To be honest i would say for you to go UUNP all they way, use the 7B slider wich i think is most suitible to your need and tweak it a bit if you like.

 

As for texture i highly recommend Demoniac texture since they have very high quality and alot of options to choose from (specially in the muscular part).

 

Physics like it was said above, the best best option is to tweak yourself since the current options are numb or "abusive".

 

And as for armors the best advice i can give you (suspecting you are going to use bodyslide), is to check the post bodyslide clothes list here in LL so you can easily find the armors or suits for your needs

 

Hope all of these helped your decision

 

PS: And if you have trouble looking for armors and stuff like that just tell what kind you need or want and i can give you some help looking for them or getting some

[myuhinny]

Muscle tone isn't done through mesh it's done with texture files. Like this one for example. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72837/?

 

I use UNP when I first started out it was CBBE till I saw UNP and thought it looked more realistic. Even if you pick one specific body you can still wear other outfits that are not your body type as long as you follow a few things. If you use CBBE and wear UNP outfits or use UNP and wear CBBE outfit you must follow these rules because CBBE and UNP have different UV maps so it will cause nipples to be in the wrong spot nasty mark under breast and nasty hip marks.

 

1.) Hips must be covered. 2.) Breast area must be covered.

 

You can also use mesh rigger to add HDT TBBP BBP to bodies armors and outfits as long as you have a template body to use to transfer the bone nodes from that mesh to the outfit mesh.  http://www.loverslab.com/topic/24797-mesh-rigger-skyrim-fallout-oblivion-beta89f-10-26-2014/?do=findComment&comment=623250

[Limbic2Node]

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72030/

 

Has everything you need, even gives the install order. You will need to provide the patience to what initially looks like a wall of confusing options. 

 

OR this 

 

http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/2476-all-in-one-hdt-animated-pussy/

 

Diff being the first is custom the second is Plug and Playish. Any way you cut it, your in for plenty of reading and vid guides for incompatibilities and install instructions. BTW, I've found  NMM vs MO can make a big diff in how I visualize load orders, and therefore my understanding of overwrites  and merges.

[Guest]

Muscle tone isn't done through mesh it's done with texture files. Like this one for example. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72837/?

 

 

That's mostly true but not the whole story. This is obviously not what the OP is aiming for but it does illustrate my point:

 

 

 

 

When I created her I was kind of thinking of those neolithic Venus figurines.

 

She's Breton so short and compact, and a ranger/hunter type who only eats what she kills or gathers.  I felt she would have most of her motive power concentrated in her lower half, so lean but meaty glutes and a sturdy set of quads. The normals are a mix of Fitness Body at about 70% opacity, and Diesel legs at 30%. The morphs are UNPSH at around 50%, CHSBHC  at 30% to give her back some of that Venus style feminine roundness. 

 

So yes, normals do most of the work, but wrapping them around a mesh with lumps in the right places helps enormously in selling the illusion of a ripped character. 

[DarkAuron]

I gotta say, i first went with CBBE when i started modding skyrim, because there was much support. But after a while i didn't like the bodyshape and i searched for another one, first i went to UNP, just for the simplicity, but the breasts weren't big enough  
So i tried UNPB, same shape but bigger breasts. And i stayed with it since then. (Tried 7Base as well once, but went back after a while) It looks realy good and there is much of support. You can combine a lot of armor mods together.
Vanilla armors are converted into the UNPB mesh (without skimpy and jiggle)
Or the skimpy version with jiggles. There are a ton of armors on nexus and here converted as well.
Plus, MrTroubleMaker has a very nice and easy to install UNPB TBBP Body mod with hdt physics enabled, i was so happy about that. Of course you can add your own preferenced hdt physics to it with other mods

But yeah, UNPB with HDT Physiks from Troublemaker is my favorite 

[Queen Bee]

I went with UNPB BBP with Bodyslide and HDT. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, though, because everything's installed right and I generated the files with Bodyslide, but there's no bounce to anything. I'm trying to find a tutorial, but so far as I can tell I followed everything correctly.

[Zebot]

I went with UNPB BBP with Bodyslide and HDT. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, though, because everything's installed right and I generated the files with Bodyslide, but there's no bounce to anything. I'm trying to find a tutorial, but so far as I can tell I followed everything correctly.

 

Have you installed HDT PE?

[Queen Bee]

 

I went with UNPB BBP with Bodyslide and HDT. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, though, because everything's installed right and I generated the files with Bodyslide, but there's no bounce to anything. I'm trying to find a tutorial, but so far as I can tell I followed everything correctly.

 

Have you installed HDT PE?

 

 

Yes, I said I did. I don't know if there's some extra step I need to take to fully install it, but it's in MO and the box is ticked.

[Zebot]

My bad... didn't read that part XD

 

Since you are using MO try to check if there's anything you forgot to activate since MO can be picky in these situations (happened to several times aswell)

 

 

[Guest]

I went with UNPB BBP with Bodyslide and HDT. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, though, because everything's installed right and I generated the files with Bodyslide, but there's no bounce to anything. I'm trying to find a tutorial, but so far as I can tell I followed everything correctly.

Basic checklist in order for HDT to work out of the box would be:

• SKSE
• HDT Physics Extension files (placed in /data/skse/plugins)
• Body (UNPB BBP)
• Skeleton (XPMSE)

So long as all of the above are correctly installed without conflicts, any armor or body mesh with at least BBP weighting on them will have bounce without further faffing from you.  Probably a daft question but presumably you have SKSE itself installed correctly and all mods using it are working?

 

If you're using MO you've got more troubleshooting options. Click the data tab and scroll down until you see an SKSE entry, expand 'plugins' and ensure you're seeing all of the required HDT files listed there. If any of them are in red they're overwriting something else which indicates a conflict - more than one mod is providing the same file.

 

One other thing - you say UNPB BBP, so you're not using UUNP  bodyslide to generate your body?