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Silly question but do the DLC work for SSE or do we have to buy them again if we buy SSE?

 

SSE comes only with all DLCs.

So in case you buy it, then you get included all DLCs.

 

If you had all the DLCs before (or the legendary edition) then SSE comes for free, with all DLCs.

 

Today is no more possible to buy just the missing DLCs for Skyrim original to get for free SSE.

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Silly question but do the DLC work for SSE or do we have to buy them again if we buy SSE?

 

SSE comes only with all DLCs.

So in case you buy it, then you get included all DLCs.

 

If you had all the DLCs before (or the legendary edition) then SSE comes for free, with all DLCs.

 

Today is no more possible to buy just the missing DLCs for Skyrim original to get for free SSE.

 

Cool thanks, that helps
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Does anyone know if Hikari the follower (http://skyrim.2game.info/detail.php?id=64795 removed from the nexus) works on the SSE? I assume the UNP version should work just ok while the CBBE won't? Is that so?

I already have 2 or 3 of his followers running flawlessly on my SSE. Just make sure the follower was converrted over, He usually has two files available, one for SSE.

 

 

I don't think this follower is converted since its removed from the nexus, so the creator either dropped the project or its uploaded somewhere unknown to me.

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Does anyone know if Hikari the follower (http://skyrim.2game.info/detail.php?id=64795 removed from the nexus) works on the SSE? I assume the UNP version should work just ok while the CBBE won't? Is that so?

I already have 2 or 3 of his followers running flawlessly on my SSE. Just make sure the follower was converrted over, He usually has two files available, one for SSE.

 

 

I don't think this follower is converted since its removed from the nexus, so the creator either dropped the project or its uploaded somewhere unknown to me.

 

Hikari can be found here..  She is converted.

http://skyrimgtx.com/my-followers.html

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Here is a list of mods tested on SSE

 

 

Already ported

 

 

Apachii skyhair Already updated for SSE (@Wicketklown001)

Bijin All in One-2016 Already updated for SSE

Climates of Tamriel Already updated for SSE (@Malo)

Falskaar Already updated for SSE
Immersive Amazing Follower Tweaks SSE Already updated for SSE
iNeed Already updated for SSE (@josiejosie)
Interesting NPCs Already updated for SSE

JackGa Pub & Armour Shop Full Already updated for SSE ([member=4L0M])

JackGa Monster Already updated for SSE (@quin666)
Live Another Life Already updated for SSE

Realistic Water Two Already updated for SSE (@Malo)

Skyrim Flora Overhaul SE Already updated for SSE (@InTheBest@Malo)
Static Mesh Improvement Already updated for SSE
Verdant Grass Already updated for SSE (@InTheBest@Malo)
Vivid Weathers Already updated for SSE (@InTheBest)

WATER - Water and Terrain Enhancement Redux Already updated for SSE ([member=Malo])

Wet and Cold Already updated for SSE
XPMSSE 4.00b Already updated for SSE (@Groovtama)

 

Working

 

 

4k clutter retexture reported as working (@prZ)
5 Minute Candlelight reported as working (@4L0M)
50 more perk points reported as working (@josiejosie)

7Base is working (you need to just overwrite files)

10XCarryWeight reported as working (@josiejosie)

Alternative imperial banner reported as working (@Mirajia)

Ambriel seems reported as working (@recreation)
Amorous Adventures SFW reported as working (@LeFlemard)
Apachii NPC Hair reported as working (@Darth_Falcon)

Archmage Necklace reported as working (@Turnabout206)

ars metallica reported as working (@josiejosie)
Bathing Beauties or Beefcake - Luxury Suite version 5.1 reported as working (@iris1269)
Bathing Beefcake Luxury Suite Guys reported as working (@iris1269)
beltfastenedquivers reported as working (@josiejosie)
Better_Male_Presets reported as working (@josiejosie)
Better 360 controller - 8 hotkeys reported as working (@4L0M)
Better message box and dialogue controls reported as working (@wulfy1)

blacksmith forge water fix reported as working (@josiejosie)

Blowing in the wind reported as working (@prZ)

Brows reported as working ()

CBBE is working and OutFit Studio is updated for SSE (@ousnius (was Cell) is building a new one for SSE. Check the pinned post)

Cheating Chest reported as working (@josiejosie)
Ct77's remodeled armors reported as working (@bahamut2119)
Dark_Eden_Forests_FallEdition reported as working (@josiejosie)
DartHairColorsAll-UpdateV1na-26766 reported as working (@Mirajia)
David trees reported as working (@prZ)
Daedric Stealth Suit reported as working (@josiejosie)

Deadly Wenches reported as working (@josiejosie)

Designs of The Nords Banners reported as working (@Mirajia)
Dizona Body(NSFW) reported as working ()
Dovahbear load screen compatible reported as working (@prZ)
Dr_Bandolier reported as working (@josiejosie)
Dr_BandolierDG reported as working (@josiejosie)
Edwen armor for unp reported as working ()
EEO - USSEP Patch reported as working (@josiejosie)
EFF 3.5.5 reported as working (@wulfy1)
Enhanced Gauldur Amulet reported as working (@Turnabout206)
EquipsB - ThroneXX reported as working (@josiejosie)
ethereal_elven_overhaul reported as working (@josiejosie)
Extended Slider Colors reported as working ()
Eyes of beauty reported as working (@bigglebojiggle)
Evil MasterMind Armor reported as working ()
Face light reported as working (@recreation)
facemasksofskyrim reported as working (@josiejosie)
Fair Skin complexion reported as working (@ousnius)
Fantasy Soundtrack Project reported as working (@4L0M)
FC Kagrenacs Instant Fortress reported as working (@monkinsane, just extract BSA files)
Female facial animation reported as working (@recreation)
Female Orc And Followers walk and animations fix by chaosknight19 reported as working (@billysha)
garm_black reported as working (@josiejosie)
gildergreen regrown reported as working (@josiejosie)

Golden Rings Of Craft reported as working (@josiejosie)

HD Furniture and Clutter reported as working (@4L0M)
Hirsute Beards reported as working (@josiejosie)

Immersive Wenches reported as working (@josiejosie)

ImoMegane-70975-1-0 reported as working (@Mirajia)
Inn Girls Resources reported as working (@josiejosie)
Jackga Pub Full 5.0.1 reported as working (@4L0M, need to extract BSA to loose files)

KIllerKeo's armor replacer reported as working ([member=Mr Stormrage])

Killmove Control reported as working ()
ks_hairdo's_lite reported as working (@josiejosie)
KS Hairdos renewal reported as working (@Tankisking)
Lamposts of Skyrim reported as working (@josiejosie)
Lind's Elven Eyes reported as working ()
Lind's Human Eyes reported as working ()
Lunari Warriors remake reported as working (@wulfy1)
More bandit camps, Explorer Edition reported as working (@bigglebojiggle)
Nightshade Vampire Armour retexture reported as working (@4L0M)
No enemies on Compass reported as working (@4L0M)
noguardhelmets reported as working (@josiejosie)
Official F.F.C.A Final Fantasy reported as working ()
Pretty animated potions and glass refracting wine bottles reported as working (@prZ)
Quality World map - main roads reported as working (@4L0M)
Race Compatibility reported as working (@SoniyaShepard)
Realistic blacksmith/misc/food reported as working (@prZ)
Recorder + Overhaul reported as working (@wulfy1)
relationship dialogue overhaul reported as working (@josiejosie)
RiverwoodHuntingCabinSE reported as working (@josiejosie)
ScoutArmor reported as working (@josiejosie)
SC- Witch of the Wilds reported as working ()
SG Hair Pack 268 reported as working (@Mirajia)
SG Textures reported as working ([member=Mr Stormrage]) 
SkyRealism - Imperial Light Armor - Black Leather reported as working (@Mirajia)
SkyRealism - Imperial Heavy Armor - Black Leather reported as working (@Mirajia)
Skyrim Bridges - ETaC-38158-2-1-2 reported as working (@Mirajia)
Skyrim Flora Overhaul reported as working (@InTheBest)
Skyrim parallax 4k by pfuscher reported as working (@prZ)
Shader 2016 by pfuscher reported as working (@prZ)

Smoking Torches and Candles reported as working ([member=blueballbob])

Sofia, The Funny Voiced Follower 2.4 reported as Working (@jbgilbreath, use the loose files version)
Sofia + Customizer reported as working (@wulfy1)

SOS Light reported as working (@prinyo)

Sotteta Necromancer Outfit reported as working (@josiejosie)

Tembtra Thief Armor reported as working (@josiejosie)
Temptress Race reported as working ()
Tera Armors Collection for UNP and male reported as working (@4L0M)
The hairstyler 1.4 reported as working (@wulfy1, you have to extract the BSA and build a loose version)
The Ningheim Race reported as working (@SoniyaShepard)
The Ordinary Women reported as working (@josiejosie)
Transmute Iron Ore First version 3 reported as working (@orgs1n)
UFO (Ultimate Follower Overhaul) reported as working (, with  the compatibility patch and by extracting the BSA)
Ultimate HD Fire Effects reported as working (@Jemzyboz)
unlimitedamuletsandrings reported as working (@josiejosie)
UNP is working (@ousnius (was Cell) is building a new one for SSE. Check the pinned post)
Verdant reported as working (@InTheBest)
Vivid Weathers reported as working (@InTheBest)
Water plants reported as working (@prZ)
Weightless dragon bones and scales reported as working (@josiejosie)
WhiterunHoldForest-67063-1-1-0 reported as working (@Mirajia)
xvision reported as working (@bigglebojiggle)
 

 
 

Partially working

 

 

Atlas map marks reported as Partially working ()

Better vampires reported as Partially working (@ravenwrith)
BijinAIO_SSE-3.1.1-SV reported as partially working (@josiejosie, install all the bijin, serana, and valerica, then deleted the esps.)
Book of UUNP Iron and steel partially working (@Ironwulfthegreat you need to unpack the BSA)

JH_85 NPC partially working (@wulfy1 you have to load KS and SG hairs without activating the esp/esm files)

Legendary Armors - DeserterX Collection reported as partially working (@blueballbob, Remove the HDT highheels master or ignore the error. Avoid the bikini version)

RaceMenu partially working (problems on the interface, strings translation are using SKSE and SKSE is not available)

Ranger Outfit reported as partially working (@josiejosie, NIOverride is missing, use only sotteta boots)
Race Compatibility  reported as partially working (@Uno)
Recorder reported as partially working (@recreation)
RGMsVanityMirror-52712-2-0 reported as partially working (@Mirajia, unpack the bsa and newpack all as new rar)
Sevenbase reported as Partially working (@bigglebojiggle, works if you don't install the animations)
The Ningheim Race reported as partially working (@Uno)

Underground Bathhouse partially working (@skubblebubble, bsa files have to be extracted or converted, some visual artifacts reported)

USLEEP partially working (the mod is fine, but it is not an ESM due to a game bug.)

 

 

 

Not working

 

 

Cinematic Fire Effects 2 HD reported as Not working (@Jemzyboz)

ECE reported as Not working (@ousnius)
Hott Vampires and Hott witches Not working (@Ironwulfthegreat)

Joy of Perspective is Not working (@BBIntern)

KS Jewelry-67309-1-0 Not working (@Mirajia)

KSHairdos reported as Not working ()

LovelyHairstyles reported as Not working ()

MCM Not working (SKSE64 missing and author has no intention to update)
Rs children Not working (@bigglebojiggle)

Schlongs of Skyrim Not working

SexLab Not working (SKSE64 missing)

 

CPU,

 

Can you move Bathing Beauties or Beefcake Luxury Suite into the Already Ported section, please?  I started versioning over for SSE.  It's at 1.1 now.

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Here is a list of mods tested on SSE

 

 

Already ported

 

 

Apachii skyhair Already updated for SSE (@Wicketklown001)

Bijin All in One-2016 Already updated for SSE

Climates of Tamriel Already updated for SSE (@Malo)

Falskaar Already updated for SSE
Immersive Amazing Follower Tweaks SSE Already updated for SSE
iNeed Already updated for SSE (@josiejosie)
Interesting NPCs Already updated for SSE

JackGa Pub & Armour Shop Full Already updated for SSE ([member=4L0M])

JackGa Monster Already updated for SSE (@quin666)
Live Another Life Already updated for SSE

Realistic Water Two Already updated for SSE (@Malo)

Skyrim Flora Overhaul SE Already updated for SSE (@InTheBest@Malo)
Static Mesh Improvement Already updated for SSE
Verdant Grass Already updated for SSE (@InTheBest@Malo)
Vivid Weathers Already updated for SSE (@InTheBest)

WATER - Water and Terrain Enhancement Redux Already updated for SSE ([member=Malo])

Wet and Cold Already updated for SSE
XPMSSE 4.00b Already updated for SSE (@Groovtama)

 

Working

 

 

4k clutter retexture reported as working (@prZ)
5 Minute Candlelight reported as working (@4L0M)
50 more perk points reported as working (@josiejosie)

7Base is working (you need to just overwrite files)

10XCarryWeight reported as working (@josiejosie)

Alternative imperial banner reported as working (@Mirajia)

Ambriel seems reported as working (@recreation)
Amorous Adventures SFW reported as working (@LeFlemard)
Apachii NPC Hair reported as working (@Darth_Falcon)

Archmage Necklace reported as working (@Turnabout206)

ars metallica reported as working (@josiejosie)
Bathing Beauties or Beefcake - Luxury Suite version 5.1 reported as working (@iris1269)
Bathing Beefcake Luxury Suite Guys reported as working (@iris1269)
beltfastenedquivers reported as working (@josiejosie)
Better_Male_Presets reported as working (@josiejosie)
Better 360 controller - 8 hotkeys reported as working (@4L0M)
Better message box and dialogue controls reported as working (@wulfy1)

blacksmith forge water fix reported as working (@josiejosie)

Blowing in the wind reported as working (@prZ)

Brows reported as working ()

CBBE is working and OutFit Studio is updated for SSE (@ousnius (was Cell) is building a new one for SSE. Check the pinned post)

Cheating Chest reported as working (@josiejosie)
Ct77's remodeled armors reported as working (@bahamut2119)
Dark_Eden_Forests_FallEdition reported as working (@josiejosie)
DartHairColorsAll-UpdateV1na-26766 reported as working (@Mirajia)
David trees reported as working (@prZ)
Daedric Stealth Suit reported as working (@josiejosie)

Deadly Wenches reported as working (@josiejosie)

Designs of The Nords Banners reported as working (@Mirajia)
Dizona Body(NSFW) reported as working ()
Dovahbear load screen compatible reported as working (@prZ)
Dr_Bandolier reported as working (@josiejosie)
Dr_BandolierDG reported as working (@josiejosie)
Edwen armor for unp reported as working ()
EEO - USSEP Patch reported as working (@josiejosie)
EFF 3.5.5 reported as working (@wulfy1)
Enhanced Gauldur Amulet reported as working (@Turnabout206)
EquipsB - ThroneXX reported as working (@josiejosie)
ethereal_elven_overhaul reported as working (@josiejosie)
Extended Slider Colors reported as working ()
Eyes of beauty reported as working (@bigglebojiggle)
Evil MasterMind Armor reported as working ()
Face light reported as working (@recreation)
facemasksofskyrim reported as working (@josiejosie)
Fair Skin complexion reported as working (@ousnius)
Fantasy Soundtrack Project reported as working (@4L0M)
FC Kagrenacs Instant Fortress reported as working (@monkinsane, just extract BSA files)
Female facial animation reported as working (@recreation)
Female Orc And Followers walk and animations fix by chaosknight19 reported as working (@billysha)
garm_black reported as working (@josiejosie)
gildergreen regrown reported as working (@josiejosie)

Golden Rings Of Craft reported as working (@josiejosie)

HD Furniture and Clutter reported as working (@4L0M)
Hirsute Beards reported as working (@josiejosie)

Immersive Wenches reported as working (@josiejosie)

ImoMegane-70975-1-0 reported as working (@Mirajia)
Inn Girls Resources reported as working (@josiejosie)
Jackga Pub Full 5.0.1 reported as working (@4L0M, need to extract BSA to loose files)

KIllerKeo's armor replacer reported as working ([member=Mr Stormrage])

Killmove Control reported as working ()
ks_hairdo's_lite reported as working (@josiejosie)
KS Hairdos renewal reported as working (@Tankisking)
Lamposts of Skyrim reported as working (@josiejosie)
Lind's Elven Eyes reported as working ()
Lind's Human Eyes reported as working ()
Lunari Warriors remake reported as working (@wulfy1)
More bandit camps, Explorer Edition reported as working (@bigglebojiggle)
Nightshade Vampire Armour retexture reported as working (@4L0M)
No enemies on Compass reported as working (@4L0M)
noguardhelmets reported as working (@josiejosie)
Official F.F.C.A Final Fantasy reported as working ()
Pretty animated potions and glass refracting wine bottles reported as working (@prZ)
Quality World map - main roads reported as working (@4L0M)
Race Compatibility reported as working (@SoniyaShepard)
Realistic blacksmith/misc/food reported as working (@prZ)
Recorder + Overhaul reported as working (@wulfy1)
relationship dialogue overhaul reported as working (@josiejosie)
RiverwoodHuntingCabinSE reported as working (@josiejosie)
ScoutArmor reported as working (@josiejosie)
SC- Witch of the Wilds reported as working ()
SG Hair Pack 268 reported as working (@Mirajia)
SG Textures reported as working ([member=Mr Stormrage]) 
SkyRealism - Imperial Light Armor - Black Leather reported as working (@Mirajia)
SkyRealism - Imperial Heavy Armor - Black Leather reported as working (@Mirajia)
Skyrim Bridges - ETaC-38158-2-1-2 reported as working (@Mirajia)
Skyrim Flora Overhaul reported as working (@InTheBest)
Skyrim parallax 4k by pfuscher reported as working (@prZ)
Shader 2016 by pfuscher reported as working (@prZ)

Smoking Torches and Candles reported as working ([member=blueballbob])

Sofia, The Funny Voiced Follower 2.4 reported as Working (@jbgilbreath, use the loose files version)
Sofia + Customizer reported as working (@wulfy1)

SOS Light reported as working (@prinyo)

Sotteta Necromancer Outfit reported as working (@josiejosie)

Tembtra Thief Armor reported as working (@josiejosie)
Temptress Race reported as working ()
Tera Armors Collection for UNP and male reported as working (@4L0M)
The hairstyler 1.4 reported as working (@wulfy1, you have to extract the BSA and build a loose version)
The Ningheim Race reported as working (@SoniyaShepard)
The Ordinary Women reported as working (@josiejosie)
Transmute Iron Ore First version 3 reported as working (@orgs1n)
UFO (Ultimate Follower Overhaul) reported as working (, with  the compatibility patch and by extracting the BSA)
Ultimate HD Fire Effects reported as working (@Jemzyboz)
unlimitedamuletsandrings reported as working (@josiejosie)
UNP is working (@ousnius (was Cell) is building a new one for SSE. Check the pinned post)
Verdant reported as working (@InTheBest)
Vivid Weathers reported as working (@InTheBest)
Water plants reported as working (@prZ)
Weightless dragon bones and scales reported as working (@josiejosie)
WhiterunHoldForest-67063-1-1-0 reported as working (@Mirajia)
xvision reported as working (@bigglebojiggle)
 

 
 

Partially working

 

 

Atlas map marks reported as Partially working ()

Better vampires reported as Partially working (@ravenwrith)
BijinAIO_SSE-3.1.1-SV reported as partially working (@josiejosie, install all the bijin, serana, and valerica, then deleted the esps.)
Book of UUNP Iron and steel partially working (@Ironwulfthegreat you need to unpack the BSA)

JH_85 NPC partially working (@wulfy1 you have to load KS and SG hairs without activating the esp/esm files)

Legendary Armors - DeserterX Collection reported as partially working (@blueballbob, Remove the HDT highheels master or ignore the error. Avoid the bikini version)

RaceMenu partially working (problems on the interface, strings translation are using SKSE and SKSE is not available)

Ranger Outfit reported as partially working (@josiejosie, NIOverride is missing, use only sotteta boots)
Race Compatibility  reported as partially working (@Uno)
Recorder reported as partially working (@recreation)
RGMsVanityMirror-52712-2-0 reported as partially working (@Mirajia, unpack the bsa and newpack all as new rar)
Sevenbase reported as Partially working (@bigglebojiggle, works if you don't install the animations)
The Ningheim Race reported as partially working (@Uno)

Underground Bathhouse partially working (@skubblebubble, bsa files have to be extracted or converted, some visual artifacts reported)

USLEEP partially working (the mod is fine, but it is not an ESM due to a game bug.)

 

 

 

Not working

 

 

Cinematic Fire Effects 2 HD reported as Not working (@Jemzyboz)

ECE reported as Not working (@ousnius)
Hott Vampires and Hott witches Not working (@Ironwulfthegreat)

Joy of Perspective is Not working (@BBIntern)

KS Jewelry-67309-1-0 Not working (@Mirajia)

KSHairdos reported as Not working ()

LovelyHairstyles reported as Not working ()

MCM Not working (SKSE64 missing and author has no intention to update)
Rs children Not working (@bigglebojiggle)

Schlongs of Skyrim Not working

SexLab Not working (SKSE64 missing)

 

CPU,

 

Can you move Bathing Beauties or Beefcake Luxury Suite into the Already Ported section, please?  I started versioning over for SSE.  It's at 1.1 now.

 

 

Same for UB and Lakeview Extended if possible. They're converted.

 

 

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Adult Toys Merchant - is working for me.

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/24421

 

I had to spawn Calypsia manually via the "playerplaceatme"-command. I did not go to Riften on foot though I just COC'ed to test it out.

 

Tried to put on the orange fox tail and cat ears on the CBBE body and it didn't CTD. Clipping is not that bad either but ofc would depend on your body and head mesh.

 

Furthermore I could not locate the chest in Riften at its usual spot and neither via help in the console. If anyone finds out where it is and would share it; that would be awesome. And yes I have downloaded the extra ESP :-P

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Does anyone know if Hikari the follower (http://skyrim.2game.info/detail.php?id=64795 removed from the nexus) works on the SSE? I assume the UNP version should work just ok while the CBBE won't? Is that so?

I already have 2 or 3 of his followers running flawlessly on my SSE. Just make sure the follower was converrted over, He usually has two files available, one for SSE.

 

 

I don't think this follower is converted since its removed from the nexus, so the creator either dropped the project or its uploaded somewhere unknown to me.

 

Hikari can be found here..  She is converted.

http://skyrimgtx.com/my-followers.html

 

 

 

How do you actually download the mod? I don't see a download link, just link to youtube vids. :(

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SKSE64 update

 

From original post on Reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/5kt7j7/pc_sse_skse64_update_28_dec_2016/

 

 

Greetings everyone. Let's start with a link to a new video I have uploaded which demonstrates SKSE64 in action.

SKSE64 Update - 28 Dec 2016

Here are the big takeaways before diving into details:

  • Excellent progress continues to be made

  • Tentatively expect a beta in mid-March 2017 (unless I can make it earlier)

  • Input event support is working (and demonstrated)

  • Menu support needed for SkyUI is not done but is the next major deep but narrow dive

...

The next big task is to implement the Menu and UI Hooks and Events to see where SkyUI stands. When I get that up and running I'll post another video.

 

  •  

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Does anyone know if Hikari the follower (http://skyrim.2game.info/detail.php?id=64795 removed from the nexus) works on the SSE? I assume the UNP version should work just ok while the CBBE won't? Is that so?

I already have 2 or 3 of his followers running flawlessly on my SSE. Just make sure the follower was converrted over, He usually has two files available, one for SSE.

 

 

I don't think this follower is converted since its removed from the nexus, so the creator either dropped the project or its uploaded somewhere unknown to me.

 

Hikari can be found here..  She is converted.

http://skyrimgtx.com/my-followers.html

 

I went to that site but I can't find a downlaod button. =(

 

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Does anyone know if Hikari the follower (http://skyrim.2game.info/detail.php?id=64795 removed from the nexus) works on the SSE? I assume the UNP version should work just ok while the CBBE won't? Is that so?

I already have 2 or 3 of his followers running flawlessly on my SSE. Just make sure the follower was converrted over, He usually has two files available, one for SSE.

 

 

I don't think this follower is converted since its removed from the nexus, so the creator either dropped the project or its uploaded somewhere unknown to me.

 

Hikari can be found here..  She is converted.

http://skyrimgtx.com/my-followers.html

 

I went to that site but I can't find a downlaod button. =(

 

 

He took the downloads down. When I checked during my initial post they were still up but I didn't downloaded them right away because I was playing different game so I was like ok ill download the mods when I get back to Skyrim. It seems like the guy is at war with the reddit part of Skyrim and the Nexus so he just puts the downloads up and down.

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