LongDukDong Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 It's weird. I do get that dialog is connected to quests within Oblivion, and mod load order can affect it greatly. Though I didn't know that when I first played either Crowning Isles and Bravil Underground. Most Sirens refused to talk, and Evenia from the Trainer's Guild has no greeting. Since then, I have rearranged my mod order according to the list that fejeena has linked, or at least as close as I can get. Any thoughts? How close is this to real? Oblivion.esm Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm x117race.esm Lovers with PK.esm TamagoClub.esm HiyokoClub.esm LoversCreature.esm Oblivion Sexualized Monsters-exclu TRM.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp HUD Status Bars.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp HGEC.esp HGEC_SI.esp Knights.esp TamagoBreak.esp TamagoNews.esp TamagoShop.esp TamagoTopic.esp TamagoConfide.esp LoversTamagoClub.esp LoversHiyokoShooter.esp HiyokoGenetics.esp HiyokoGenerator.esp HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.esp HiyokoFutureDream.esp LoversEncounter.esp HiyokoQuestTarget.esp TamagoSetBody.esp LoversDRader.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp LoversRaperS.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversBitch.esp LoversCreature.esp Lovers with PK Extender.esp LoversSoundCreature.esp Lovers Creature Companion.esp LoversSlavePlay.esp LoversSlaveTrader.esp LSTBravilUnderground.esp LSTaddonInH.esp LoversUnicorn.esp LoversImmoralGuards.esp LoversImmoralSisters.esp LoversHooker.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp SetBody.esp Oblivion Vwalk.esp DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk.esp DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS.esp Knights Vwalk.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed English Patch.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp Beautiful People Plus - English Patch.esp x117Race ENG Race.esp Corean Race.esp Corean Race Hair.esp Chocolate Elves.esp AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp OSM-Exclu TRm.esp LoversCalm.esp LoversTachiCat2.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Add Map Markers.esp FuroGeneratorTrap.esp Chest of Goodies.esp Decompose Corpse.esp Leveler Cheat.esp Mark and Recall.esp Super Start.esp The Million Septim Sack.esp BudongsNarcolepsySpell.esp BudongExtension.esp Ring of Persuasion.esp The One Ring.esp Yeah, I made line breaks to separate sections in this list. HGEC and HGEC_SI also include the bouncy skeleton. Unlike the Mod Order list, I don't have a lop-ears .esp for Chocolate elves. Instead, it's just a OMOD that installs the actual replacement mesh in place. FuroGeneratorTrap... I couldn't find a fully working version, so I basically used whatever links I could find for the Furu Tentacle trap and reassembed it. I think I got it perfect now (should I re-upload it?). And the ones at the very end are cheat mods: Ring of Persuasion is similar to a ring cheat mod someone made for Morrowind. If you don't know what the One Ring is, you never watched Lord of the Rings. And if BudongExtension confuses ya, it's just a mod that takes the book from Budong's Narcolepsy and drops a copy near Weynon Priory. Am I close?
gregathit Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 Everything below LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp should be up above the 1st Tamago mod. As to the comment about HGEC deal with a "bouncy skeleton".......that won't work. NOTHING can overwrite the LAPF skeleton, or your animations won't work right. As to Sirens not talking......meh, hard to say. Depends on what version you installed and if they actually have greetings in it. Put the vwalk mods under the mod that they belong to. Not grouped down below. Put these mods up above tamago as well: Corean Race.esp Corean Race Hair.esp Chocolate Elves.esp AsharasSirensAndTritons.esp OSM-Exclu TRm.esp Then you need to start a brand new game. See how things function then and shuffle things if needed. NOTE: Chocolate Elves is NOT the same as the MBP version. So you probably have some oddness from that as several mods you have need that (it can be found on the MBP nexus page) to function correctly. See the pinned thread at the top of this section titled "Please Read Before......" and look at the load order in the spoiler. Now if you are using the NoMBP version of these mods, then you can ignore this. Hope that helps.
fejeena Posted October 24, 2016 Posted October 24, 2016 For my crowning Isle Patch you don't need Chocolate Elves, only AsharasSirensAndTritons. Yes that is not my load order. Nothing below LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp I wrote sort all mods Run BOSS, then sort the Mods BOSS did not sort manually in the Oblivion Mod manager(clothes Mods to sorted clothes Mods, Quest Mods to sorted quest Mods, .....Sort them in about alphabetically within the categories) And I posted Links how to sort manually. And the "I have no greetings" bug ( setPlayerInSEWorld 0 (or setPlayerinSEWorld 1) http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Glitches
LongDukDong Posted October 26, 2016 Author Posted October 26, 2016 OMG. You're not gonna believe this, but.... Evenia within the Trainer's Guild does not have a set Greeting like the others. First, let me thank both gregahit and fejeena for the advice. Oh, and when I meant by 'bouncy skeleton', I was referring to the BBB skeleton that works fine with Lovers. And if I didn't use the HGEC pack that I do, the generic race femmes would continue to wear bras. It did confuse me the order you suggested as it conflicts with Mod Order shown in the Quick Installation Guide available here:http://www.loverslab.com/topic/23-quick-installation-guide/?hl=order However, I did place the race mods above Tamago, and moved the 'Sensual Walks' esps below their applicable masters as you suggested. I only had them grouped where the Umpa mod was to be placed. Perhaps the Mod order does need updating if that is the case, if only to include Sensual Walks. HOWEVER, the changes after did fix an issue I had with Lovers Bitch. Rena Bruiant just refused to visit her shop until those were fixed. As to the Unofficial Shivering Isles patch, it had no effect. But, I'm a keepin' it in my Mod list, make no mistake. Though I did compress the non.BSAed resources into a 'Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch' BSA of its own. Something I'm going to do for my own mods from now on. Cleaner that way. But this is gonna KILL ya. When gregahit suggested "Depends on what version you installed and if they actually have greetings in it.", it got me wondering if Evenia did in fact not have a greeting.Nope.The xxLSTBUMain quest that holds the basic Greetings did not include one for her!I just made a separate .esp that copied the Greeting from Onan (xLSTTGOwner) which read "What is it...", and assigned the copy to Evenia (xLSTTGTrainer02). Made a slight change in wording so it wasn't exact, but... just making that one line did the trick. She now has a greet where she didn't before.Something to consider for any future Bravil update.
fejeena Posted October 26, 2016 Posted October 26, 2016 The load orders are almost identical. People sort Lovers Mods some times a little different See also here http://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/ And galgat also published a load order ( see his Mods...maybe crowning Isle ? ) Edit1: Here http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/423-darkbloodline-galgattweaked/ and here http://www.loverslab.com/topic/108-loverscrowningisle/ But all have first Tamago then Lovers. All load orders work. The only stupid lovers load order is in the BOSS masterlist. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edit2: Bravil Underground "Evenia" . She use vanilla Greetings "What" or "What's up" But I use the No-MBP versions. Maybe a MBP race can not use the greetings. ( But in all my Mods with new races they can use vanilla greetings ) And why a separate esp ? With TES4Edit you can add a new dialog ( In that time the CS would have just loaded the Mod )
LongDukDong Posted October 27, 2016 Author Posted October 27, 2016 The first link you provided appears to be an edited and shortened version of the load order which I used, which has all the Tamago Esps before the Races, and so on. Though gregahit suggested the races go above the Tamago material. Maybe you're right about the dialog not liking MBP mods. It certainly didn't like it when I attempted to make another Chocolate Elf in Bravil Underground But as to why I made a separate .esp, the answer is simple. I don't like editing someone's original work if there is a chance there will be a later advance. Galgat may add this fix himself, or a later version may be made which may still need the patch. And I don't wanna forget I had to patch it.
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