Frozium Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 As you all know, Skyrim has a very big problem with memory leaks. My biggest problem is that if I have started a new game and then I install a mod, no matter how light that mod is it will always slow down the loading screens a LOT. This forces me to never install a mod when I'm playing, as installing one would force me to make a new game so I won't suffer from this loading screen problem. A few days ago, I asked in Reddit about how could I fix that, and one guy told me: "Uh well, ENB fixed loadings for me. Also when I install any mod the first time loading is longer for me. Sometimes it also happens randomly I have pretty long loading screens. I suggest you try ENB. You don't have to use the post processing." I told him that since I use a low-end computer, I can't use ENB. He then said: "Yes, but you don't have to use the beautiful part of the ENB. I dunno if there is a setting to disable that part, but use the fixes, but I do know that every time you start the game you can press Shift + F12, if I am not mistaken, and you will get your vanilla looks but you still get the memory fixes and crash fixes and all that. It should help with your loadings. For me it fixed endless loading and a ton of crashes on a heavy modded skyrim. I just traded 30 FPS (got 60 without ENB) but I can turn it off anytime and still get the fixes while playing at 60 FPS." Then I told him about how people complain about LONGER loading screens when installing ENB and that my game doesn't reach 60 FPS. He answered me with this: "Your performance doesn't matter as long as you set up the ENB correctly and don't use the post processing stuff. As for if I am sure, I am speaking from experience but from what I learned from Skyrim and modding every person has a different experience with it lol. It was the only idea I had and it may be worth a try. If you decide to try and it doesn't work, you can use a program that uninstalls all the ENB stuff without you having to worry about what you are supposed to delete and what not. The only thing you will waste in the process is time, and I'm warning you, if you wanna set up ENB correctly you will spend quite some time. I gotta ask tho, are you using MO/Nexus or how else do you install these mods? And how longer do the loading screens become after you install any mod? I suppose it's significantly longer since you are posting this." Is this guy right? Should I install those ENB files to fix the loading screen problem? I'm SO lost here.
GenioMaestro Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 you not post your machine caracteristics.. and need your load order.. plus any orientation over HOW LONG are your loading screens... ENB have the graphical post-procesing but have an option for disable it and is called ENBoost.. for activate it put this option in your enblocal.ini == UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=truethis disable the graphical post-procesing and disable the Shift + F12 keys leaving only the memory and process optimization of ENB... i have a medium machine.. i5 4460 with 8 gb + old gtx 660 2gb.. have near 170 mod's with NMM and none problem.. 60 fps at 1920x1080 near constant.. i only use skse memory.. have ENBoost but only activate it when have problems with some mods... same about Crash Fixes... i not need ENBoost for play.. my game give me the same stability, fps and response time with and without ENBoost... the first time a mod is instaled the game must make some verifications and the machine must put it in cache.. then the first time you activate a mod you can have and adittional time to load.. but must be reduced when you load a save with the same mods.. my loading time can vary a lot the first time start skyrim because depend of cache.. same for the first time i load a savegame.. but when i'm playing loading a savegame take from 5 to 10 seconds.. some times less.. how many time need you?? and with what machine??
GodSmack Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 Ive heard that and i used ENB just for it on my craptop, its legit just turn the ENB off or your comp might explode if u load a save lol
Frozium Posted October 16, 2016 Author Posted October 16, 2016 you not post your machine caracteristics.. and need your load order.. plus any orientation over HOW LONG are your loading screens... ENB have the graphical post-procesing but have an option for disable it and is called ENBoost.. for activate it put this option in your enblocal.ini == UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=true this disable the graphical post-procesing and disable the Shift + F12 keys leaving only the memory and process optimization of ENB... i have a medium machine.. i5 4460 with 8 gb + old gtx 660 2gb.. have near 170 mod's with NMM and none problem.. 60 fps at 1920x1080 near constant.. i only use skse memory.. have ENBoost but only activate it when have problems with some mods... same about Crash Fixes... i not need ENBoost for play.. my game give me the same stability, fps and response time with and without ENBoost... the first time a mod is instaled the game must make some verifications and the machine must put it in cache.. then the first time you activate a mod you can have and adittional time to load.. but must be reduced when you load a save with the same mods.. my loading time can vary a lot the first time start skyrim because depend of cache.. same for the first time i load a savegame.. but when i'm playing loading a savegame take from 5 to 10 seconds.. some times less.. how many time need you?? and with what machine?? Loading screens take like 4-6 seconds normally. After installing a mod, it increases 5-7 seconds (added). My load orders is: Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp SkyUI.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp FNIS.esp FNIS_PCEA2.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp XPMSE.esp RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp JaxonzNameGen.esp Purewaters.esp Improved Dragon Shouts - Dawnguard.esp Improved Dragon Shouts.esp Improved Dragon Shouts - Dragonborn.esp AMatterOfTime.esp moveitLWT.esp When Vampires Attack.esp No More Glowing Edges.esp TransmuteAll.esp Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp Extended UI.esp VioLens.esp HeartBreaker.esp dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp NoRadialBlur.esp Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp Point The Way.esp Run For Your Lives.esp Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp BetterQuestObjectives.esp NonEssentialChildren.esp Bounty Gold.esp BarenziahQuestMarkers_Droppable.esp BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp KS Hairdos - HDT.esp Glowing Eyes.esp NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp Tempest.esp Serana No Hood.esp _tck_SpellCrafting.esp SpellChargingFramework.esp Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp HelmetToggle.esp AncientTonguesSword.esp Serana.esp RiversideLodge.esp One handed Crossbow.esp Immersive Travel.esp isilNarsil.esp HoldBorderBanners.esp Ultimate merging.esp NoLeveledItemRewards.esp SilverDragonArmor.esp 12FemaleBrows.esp UnrelentingForce200%.esp Timescale5.esp IAmTheRad_SummonKarstaagUnlimited.esp Crossbows_Basic_Collection_EN_LL.esp Pauldrons.esp DragonCarvedArmorSet.esp fine goods from morrowind.esp PaladinArtifactsAndArmor.esp TentacleEnt.esp j3x-autocrossbows.esp Ursine Armour - Non HDT.esp Knight Of Thorns Armor.esp Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp PlatedMagiArmor.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp EzEWorldMap.esp And my system specs are: -Intel Core i5 - 2450M, 2.5GHz -Nvdia GeForce 610M 2GB -8GB RAM -Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bits BTW, if you are uncomfortable speaking english, you can speak to me in spanish. (Because you're spanish, right? That name...) Ive heard that and i used ENB just for it on my craptop, its legit just turn the ENB off or your comp might explode if u load a save lol I once tried ENB. Started a save and got 5 FPS. 15 seconds later, the game crashed XD Then, how did you install it? What do I exactly need?
darkconsole Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 im like 57% sure thats just a placebo effect/
GenioMaestro Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 "Loading screens normally taken as 4-6 seconds. After installing a mod, increases 5-7 seconds (the original)." these times are normal .. i do not understand your problem .. how many frames per second you have ?? you have 80 Mod on a low machine... not bad .. some are a bit heavy as Purewaters and Ordinator.. you can remove Skyrim optimization Project .. is only required when using Realistic Lighting Overhaul... if your game make CTD when use ENB can be bad configured... be sure you are ussing the last version of ENB and try with my ebnlocal.ini that is configured for use ENBoost on nvidia cards with 2 gb... can't attach a .ini.. [PROXY]EnableProxyLibrary=falseInitProxyFunctions=trueProxyLibrary=other_d3d9.dll[GLOBAL]UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=trueUseDefferedRendering=falseForceFakeVideocard=falseIgnoreCreationKit=true[PERFORMANCE]SpeedHack=trueEnableOcclusionCulling=true[MULTIHEAD]ForceVideoAdapterIndex=falseVideoAdapterIndex=0[MEMORY]ExpandSystemMemoryX64=falseReduceSystemMemoryUsage=trueDisableDriverMemoryManager=falseDisablePreloadToVRAM=falseEnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=falseReservedMemorySizeMb=256VideoMemorySizeMb=1920EnableCompression=falseAutodetectVideoMemorySize=true[WINDOW]ForceBorderless=falseForceBorderlessFullscreen=false[ENGINE]ForceAnisotropicFiltering=trueMaxAnisotropy=16EnableVSync=trueAddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=falseForceLodBias=falseLodBias=0.0VSyncSkipNumFrames=0[LIMITER]WaitBusyRenderer=falseEnableFPSLimit=trueFPSLimit=60.0[iNPUT]//shiftKeyCombination=16//f12KeyUseEffect=123//homeKeyFPSLimit=36//num / 106KeyShowFPS=106//print screenKeyScreenshot=44//enterKeyEditor=13//f4KeyFreeVRAM=115KeyBruteForce=66[ADAPTIVEQUALITY]Enable=falseQuality=1DesiredFPS=20.0[ANTIALIASING]EnableEdgeAA=falseEnableTemporalAA=falseEnableSubPixelAA=falseEnableTransparencyAA=false[FIX]FixGameBugs=trueFixParallaxBugs=trueFixAliasedTextures=trueIgnoreLoadingScreen=falseIgnoreInventory=trueFixSsaoWaterTransparency=trueFixSsaoHairTransparency=trueFixTintGamma=trueRemoveBlur=trueFixSubSurfaceScattering=trueFixParallaxTerrain=trueFixSkyReflection=trueFixCursorVisibility=trueFixLag=false[THREADS]DataSyncMode=0PriorityMode=0EnableUnsafeFixes=false[LONGEXPOSURE]EnableLongExposureMode=falseTime=1.0BlendMax=0.0 and yes .. I am from Spain .. but this is a public forum .. we must speak English... or something..
Frozium Posted October 16, 2016 Author Posted October 16, 2016 im like 57% sure thats just a placebo effect/ How does a placebo efffect work with Skyrim? I know what that is, but to videogames...
Nephenee13 Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 ENBoost is part of the ENB Framework, but can be used without enabling any graphical overrides. What it does is basically offloads RAM requirements into a second executable, allowing you to increase the amount of memory available to Skyrim to load things like textures. It also makes it more stable in general. All the details of how to install it are found here: http://wiki.step-project.com/ENBoost There is literally no reason not to use this. While you are at it, install the Crash Fixes SKSE plugin as well. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725/? make sure you fully read both of those pages!
Frozium Posted October 16, 2016 Author Posted October 16, 2016 "Loading screens normally taken as 4-6 seconds. After installing a mod, increases 5-7 seconds (the original)." these times are normal .. i do not understand your problem .. how many frames per second you have ?? you have 80 Mod on a low machine... not bad .. some are a bit heavy as Purewaters and Ordinator.. you can remove Skyrim optimization Project .. is only required when using Realistic Lighting Overhaul... if your game make CTD when use ENB can be bad configured... be sure you are ussing the last version of ENB and try with my ebnlocal.ini that is configured for use ENBoost on nvidia cards with 2 gb... can't attach a .ini.. [PROXY] EnableProxyLibrary=false InitProxyFunctions=true ProxyLibrary=other_d3d9.dll [GLOBAL] UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=true UseDefferedRendering=false ForceFakeVideocard=false IgnoreCreationKit=true [PERFORMANCE] SpeedHack=true EnableOcclusionCulling=true [MULTIHEAD] ForceVideoAdapterIndex=false VideoAdapterIndex=0 [MEMORY] ExpandSystemMemoryX64=false ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true DisableDriverMemoryManager=false DisablePreloadToVRAM=false EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false ReservedMemorySizeMb=256 VideoMemorySizeMb=1920 EnableCompression=false AutodetectVideoMemorySize=true [WINDOW] ForceBorderless=false ForceBorderlessFullscreen=false [ENGINE] ForceAnisotropicFiltering=true MaxAnisotropy=16 EnableVSync=true AddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=false ForceLodBias=false LodBias=0.0 VSyncSkipNumFrames=0 [LIMITER] WaitBusyRenderer=false EnableFPSLimit=true FPSLimit=60.0 [iNPUT] //shift KeyCombination=16 //f12 KeyUseEffect=123 //home KeyFPSLimit=36 //num / 106 KeyShowFPS=106 //print screen KeyScreenshot=44 //enter KeyEditor=13 //f4 KeyFreeVRAM=115 KeyBruteForce=66 [ADAPTIVEQUALITY] Enable=false Quality=1 DesiredFPS=20.0 [ANTIALIASING] EnableEdgeAA=false EnableTemporalAA=false EnableSubPixelAA=false EnableTransparencyAA=false [FIX] FixGameBugs=true FixParallaxBugs=true FixAliasedTextures=true IgnoreLoadingScreen=false IgnoreInventory=true FixSsaoWaterTransparency=true FixSsaoHairTransparency=true FixTintGamma=true RemoveBlur=true FixSubSurfaceScattering=true FixParallaxTerrain=true FixSkyReflection=true FixCursorVisibility=true FixLag=false [THREADS] DataSyncMode=0 PriorityMode=0 EnableUnsafeFixes=false [LONGEXPOSURE] EnableLongExposureMode=false Time=1.0 BlendMax=0.0 and yes .. I am from Spain .. but this is a public forum .. we must speak English... or something.. When I say 4-6 seconds and then 5-7 seconds added I mean I end up having like 12 seconds loading screen. And that's just the beginning.
Frozium Posted October 16, 2016 Author Posted October 16, 2016 OK, so I finally installed the whole thing and it doesn't crash, GOOD. Problem now is that ENBoost is using the INTEGRATED video card instead of the Nvidia one. How can I fix this? Does it have anything to do with me having installed the Wrapper version? I've set the Nvidia control panel to ALWAYS use the Nvidia card. Would that overwrite the ENB "selection"? BIG EDIT: My game was saved inside my Skyrim home I decided to go out to test the FPS. Skyrim doesn't even begin with the loading screen. Welp, looks like this was a horrendous idea since the beginning. What I tried to fix I've made it even worse.
Nephenee13 Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 OK, so I finally installed the whole thing and it doesn't crash, GOOD. Problem now is that ENBoost is using the INTEGRATED video card instead of the Nvidia one. How can I fix this? Does it have anything to do with me having installed the Wrapper version? I've set the Nvidia control panel to ALWAYS use the Nvidia card. Would that overwrite the ENB "selection"? BIG EDIT: My game was saved inside my Skyrim home I decided to go out to test the FPS. Skyrim doesn't even begin with the loading screen. Welp, looks like this was a horrendous idea since the beginning. What I tried to fix I've made it even worse. http://forum.step-project.com/forum/57-enb-support/
jfraser Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 This guide has led to massive stabilization with my games: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50244/?
Frozium Posted October 17, 2016 Author Posted October 17, 2016 OK, so I finally installed the whole thing and it doesn't crash, GOOD. Problem now is that ENBoost is using the INTEGRATED video card instead of the Nvidia one. How can I fix this? Does it have anything to do with me having installed the Wrapper version? I've set the Nvidia control panel to ALWAYS use the Nvidia card. Would that overwrite the ENB "selection"? BIG EDIT: My game was saved inside my Skyrim home I decided to go out to test the FPS. Skyrim doesn't even begin with the loading screen. Welp, looks like this was a horrendous idea since the beginning. What I tried to fix I've made it even worse. http://forum.step-project.com/forum/57-enb-support/ This guide has led to massive stabilization with my games: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50244/? Thanks for the help really. But I consider this topic closed. Fuck, I run a low end computer! I don't even know what I'm really trying to fix here!
Guest Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 OK, so I finally installed the whole thing and it doesn't crash, GOOD. Problem now is that ENBoost is using the INTEGRATED video card instead of the Nvidia one. How can I fix this? Does it have anything to do with me having installed the Wrapper version? I've set the Nvidia control panel to ALWAYS use the Nvidia card. Would that overwrite the ENB "selection"? BIG EDIT: My game was saved inside my Skyrim home I decided to go out to test the FPS. Skyrim doesn't even begin with the loading screen. Welp, looks like this was a horrendous idea since the beginning. What I tried to fix I've made it even worse. http://forum.step-project.com/forum/57-enb-support/ This guide has led to massive stabilization with my games: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50244/? Thanks for the help really. But I consider this topic closed. Fuck, I run a low end computer! I don't even know what I'm really trying to fix here! I fixed my long/occasionally endless loading screen problem by disabling auto save. Try that.
RUD3DUD3 Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 my experience with enb/enboost is pretty different. with enb/enboost load screen lasts much longer but on the other hand game becomes more stable i can play longer without hitting ram limit but somehow game feels a little sluggish not smooth whereas without enb/enboost my saves loads much faster, games feels smooth as fuck but there is risk of hitting ram limit pretty easily and quickly and i can't play more than few minutes. so enboost has its advantages and disadvantages. im eagerly waiting for special edition so that i can get rid of enboost to be quite honest.
Frozium Posted October 17, 2016 Author Posted October 17, 2016 OK, so I finally installed the whole thing and it doesn't crash, GOOD. Problem now is that ENBoost is using the INTEGRATED video card instead of the Nvidia one. How can I fix this? Does it have anything to do with me having installed the Wrapper version? I've set the Nvidia control panel to ALWAYS use the Nvidia card. Would that overwrite the ENB "selection"? BIG EDIT: My game was saved inside my Skyrim home I decided to go out to test the FPS. Skyrim doesn't even begin with the loading screen. Welp, looks like this was a horrendous idea since the beginning. What I tried to fix I've made it even worse. http://forum.step-project.com/forum/57-enb-support/ This guide has led to massive stabilization with my games: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50244/? Thanks for the help really. But I consider this topic closed. Fuck, I run a low end computer! I don't even know what I'm really trying to fix here! I fixed my long/occasionally endless loading screen problem by disabling auto save. Try that. I always have it disabled my experience with enb/enboost is pretty different. with enb/enboost load screen lasts much longer but on the other hand game becomes more stable i can play longer without hitting ram limit but somehow game feels a little sluggish not smooth whereas without enb/enboost my saves loads much faster, games feels smooth as fuck but there is risk of hitting ram limit pretty easily and quickly and i can't play more than few minutes. so enboost has its advantages and disadvantages. im eagerly waiting for special edition so that i can get rid of enboost to be quite honest. I'm with you. Without ENBoost, loading screens DO happen and the game runs much smoother. I hardly ever hit the RAM limit and crash.
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