BigBeard Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 Great update Turbo! Using Azmodan's strap ons, which were updated in anticipation of 1.7a, strap ons are working perfectly again. No problems with the new tongue, looking forward to some new skins for it. Using's Noir's penis I've had no problems so far. The only issue I'm seeing is joining autonomy. If I start a scene with 2 then one more autonomously ask to join to make 3, if I start with four one more will join, if start with 7 I'll get 8, etc. It's the same with npc scenes. So basically for all scenes that still have room for joiners just one will autonomously join even if there's still room left for others. Not a big deal because the invite still works to fill the scene. Just wanted to bring it up. Also there doesn't seem to be a way to turn off relationship archetype hints? I may have missed it in the settings. I'm very familiar with the system and the extra notifications would be nice to turn those off again.
RoryWinchester Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 4 hours ago, BatDood said: If you're looking for specific file names, it could prove futile as the problem files could be within a merged package containing various CC and/or mods. It's a risk you run when you download other people's sims. A lot of times these merged files will have generic names that make the contents unidentifiable. Your best bet is to look for any files that seem unusually large in comparison to the others as far as file sizes are concerned. Otherwise you'll have to remove all your mods and put them back in a bit at at time until you come across the problem file. You'll have to test each time you put the mods in, making sure you delete your localthumbcache every time you make changes to your mods folder. Once you find that merged file, you're not out of the woods yet. There is a chance that the CC could have been merged quite some time ago and the latest version of S4S won't be able to un-merge them. I know one member here who ran into this exact issue. They had to painstakingly search for and download all the CC contained in that file that wasn't broken and after installing it all, they deleted the merged file. How I can identify a merged file? In my game the butt almost disappeared when having sex or have a deformation, in female sims like male sims
Sasas Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 Unless you are using Simidulgence or Noir's XXL penis size there shouldn't be a problem with penis stretching.
Scorpio Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, RoryWinchester said: How I can identify a merged file? In my game the butt almost disappeared when having sex or have a deformation, in female sims like male sims CC Makeup files that are larger than 500 bytes in size. CC Clothing files larger than 1-2K in size(guessing) here. Anything that changes heads or head sizes. Odd unknown CC file names like 00s.package or 256.package, etc. If a file name doesn't describe what it's for then it might be suspect, but not always. You should use S4S and look at the files to see what they are for and rename them so you can identify it easily. When you select an unknown merged file it will bring up a list of them in the center window. 2 files merged are usually OK but if you see more you should check the names carefully and/or try to un-merge it. Sometimes it's just easier to delete them instead. Might be body parts, body presets/shapes like Dumbaby, Better Bodies, CMARS, etc. Might be from Sliders being used too far out of normal range. The more CC you have installed the more likely it is for problems to appear especially with a major WW update or game update. Often it's easier just to use the 50/50 Mod/CC removal method to keep narrowing things down till you find it.
RoryWinchester Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 At first I thought it was the CMARS sliders (I remove too Dumbaby), but after removing them and testing the problem continued... I'm working right now, so I'll probably keep testing on Friday. 1
Scorpio Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, RoryWinchester said: At first I thought it was the CMARS sliders (I remove too Dumbaby), but after removing them and testing the problem continued... I'm working right now, so I'll probably keep testing on Friday. About all you can do is keep fishing by removing things and testing again.
pekani Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 13 hours ago, Khlas said: most of your issue is because you still have NANDONG or noir’s tongue, any tongues meshes, or any rig that can conflict with the new one, like dumbaby’s rig, something you shouldn’t have even before that update. It was just fine because it used to be an identical rig than the ww one. Thank god for the post, I read the changelog, deleted all the tongue related stuff but didn't realise I had NANDONG's 'cause the file said something like 'head' and not 'tongue'.
RoryWinchester Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 Now that I think about it, is it necessary to delete some animations that may be old?
0PoisonPink0 Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Scorpio said: CC Makeup files that are larger than 500 bytes in size. CC Clothing files larger than 1-2K in size(guessing) here. Those don't necessarily need to be merged to have that size or bigger. If they have a lot of swatches that means more textures and bigger file size, if those textures are HD the size will double. In the case of clothing you also have to take into account the meshes, the bigger the polycount the bigger the files, and there are too many clothes with a ridiculous polycount out there... It's the same reason why alpha hairstyles have such large filesizes 3
Scorpio Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 14 minutes ago, td12 said: Anybody know how to get the old female body back? That depends but you might have to just use the Wicked Body Selector and reassign them again.
td12 Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, Scorpio said: That depends but you might have to just use the Wicked Body Selector and reassign them again. Its not available in the body selector at all. The body that is called "Default Author: WickedWhims" has changed, the butt is lower down and the crotch is warped vs. the older versions of the mesh.
Scorpio Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 Just now, 0PoisonPink0 said: Those don't necessarily need to be merged to have that size or bigger. If they have a lot of swatches that means more textures and bigger file size, if those textures are HD the size will double. In the case of clothing you also have to take into account the meshes, the bigger the polycount the bigger the files, and there are too many clothes with a ridiculous polycount out there... It's the same reason why alpha hairstyles have such large filesizes True. I don't have but a few HD CC items and it was more of a general idea. Even though I do have a few Makeup CC's that are from 1K up to 5K but the majority are less than 500 bytes. Alpha Hairstyles are huge by comparison, yes. I do however have some Clothing Outfits that are quite large too. Looking at the filenames sometimes helps if you see something like Pack or Set included in the name it likely contains more than one item but it doesn't always mean they've been merged either. The only way to know for sure is by using S4S to check their content. 2
Scorpio Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, td12 said: Its not available in the body selector at all. The body that is called "Default Author: WickedWhims" has changed, the butt is lower down and the crotch is warped vs. the older versions of the mesh. Then you have something else installed that isn't compatible with the new WW meshes. You can either download the old WW 1.69b and revert back... Or else you'll have to start removing Mods/CC until it goes away. It could be Sliders, Body Presets, Body Parts, or any number of other things. Hips up down Sliders would be my guess but I might be wrong.
td12 Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 25 minutes ago, Scorpio said: Then you have something else installed that isn't compatible with the new WW meshes. You can either download the old WW 1.69b and revert back... Or else you'll have to start removing Mods/CC until it goes away. It could be Sliders, Body Presets, Body Parts, or any number of other things. Hips up down Sliders would be my guess but I might be wrong. I don't want the new meshes. They are noticeably different than the old ones. Which is why I asked how can I get the old meshes while retaining all the other features of the new update. 1
arak2 Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 1) Scortpio. Could you improve the compability of this mod with the Simdulgence Strapon ? Sometimes this strapon is not appearing during sex 2) Some sims that i created are with the attractiveness broken for some reason. the attractiveness works for relationships but not for sex.m it is ignored for sex attempts for some sims. i think that maybe this may have to do with console for occult sim (adding more points and making a sim a witch or vampire, surpassing the maximum point limit for vampire, for example, maybe this breaks attractiveness ). i think the configurations are apparently set correctly concerning wicked whims. my question is if there is something that it is known to break attractiveness. because it is working fully with some characters and not with others. 3) it was suggested that i create a new sim to re-enable this. just for knowledge, is there any way to copy the appearance and other characteristics of a sim to another sim ? the maximum characteristics possible.
Scorpio Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 14 minutes ago, arak2 said: 1) Scortpio. Could you improve the compability of this mod with the Simdulgence Strapon ? Sometimes this strapon is not appearing during sex I'm not the creator of this Mod so you have to ask TURBODRIVER instead. I only try to help ppl with bugs or settings issues. 17 minutes ago, arak2 said: the attractiveness works for relationships but not for sex.m it is ignored for sex attempts for some sims. As far as I know the Attractiveness System really doesn't affect Sex as far as rejections or acceptance unless something changed with the latest versions I'm unaware of. Other WW settings like relationship settings or the Always Accept Cheat settings might be what's causing different Sims to accept or refuse Sex.
Scorpio Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 59 minutes ago, td12 said: I don't want the new meshes. They are noticeably different than the old ones. I haven't noticed anyone else complaining about them so I suspect it's something you have installed that's making them look odd or different. I'd start a new game save with all Mods/CC removed except for WW + Animations to test what it looks like then. Don't forget to delete your localthumbcache.pkg whenever you add, remove, or update Mods.
natokaay Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 I just updated this mod today and keep getting a message saying I have outdated tongue mods but I don't have any tongue mods. Not sure what mods might be causing an issue.
Faolon Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 5 hours ago, RoryWinchester said: Now that I think about it, is it necessary to delete some animations that may be old? You don't need to. However, if you want to do some cleaning on your own, you can if you want. For example, Turbo has a list of Inactive animation creators. He also points out which are compatible still. You can get rid of any that aren't on the lists. If you want, you can get rid of the inactive animators as well.
arak2 Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Scorpio said: I'm not the creator of this Mod so you have to ask TURBODRIVER instead. I only try to help ppl with bugs or settings issues. As far as I know the Attractiveness System really doesn't affect Sex as far as rejections or acceptance unless something changed with the latest versions I'm unaware of. Other WW settings like relationship settings or the Always Accept Cheat settings might be what's causing different Sims to accept or refuse Sex. 1) If you can, try to tel him about adapting the simdulgence strapon to this version of the mod. not just the one from azmodan. 2) You said " the Attractiveness System really doesn't affect Sex as far as rejections or acceptance " . but when a sim reject sex because of attractiveness it is stated "sim is unnatractive". what i mean is that this is not happening with some sims and i think it has to do with excessive occult points and cheats breaking this setting. the always acceot setting is not activated and the relationship settings are correctly set. i have tried deleting traits but that apparently did not work either. i think something breaks the system and i think its the occult cheat and points.
ADM Ntek Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 9 hours ago, natokaay said: I just updated this mod today and keep getting a message saying I have outdated tongue mods but I don't have any tongue mods. Not sure what mods might be causing an issue. have you made sure that you don't have these files. NANDONG_yfHeadDefault NANDONG_ymHeadDefaultHQ NANDONG_OverideSliderHeadJawMouthForTongueCompability you could also try to run a conflict detector. 1
Scorpio Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 7 hours ago, arak2 said: 1) If you can, try to tel him about adapting the simdulgence strapon to this version of the mod. not just the one from azmodan. Sorry I can't help with that as I'm still using the older WW version 1.67g. But from what I remember I couldn't have both Strap Ons installed at the same time when I was comparing them before. Install the one you want and remove the other to see if it works. No idea if the new WW version changes will require updated Strap Ons from their creators or not. 7 hours ago, arak2 said: 2) You said " the Attractiveness System really doesn't affect Sex as far as rejections or acceptance " . but when a sim reject sex because of attractiveness it is stated "sim is unnatractive". what i mean is that this is not happening with some sims and i think it has to do with excessive occult points and cheats breaking this setting. Keep in mind the new WW major update version is only 2 days old and might need unknown some bug fixes in the near future. That said, I've had the Attractions Setting disabled for a long time now and haven't been using it so I'm just guessing here. I thought there was an Attraction Setting for your Played Sim for Likes/Dislikes Occult Sims you might want to look for and possibly change if just Occult Sim are refusing. Don't think I've seen it in the CAS Likes/Dislikes menus so you'll have to click on your Sim to set them up. 7 hours ago, arak2 said: the always acceot setting is not activated and the relationship settings are correctly set. i have tried deleting traits but that apparently did not work either. i think something breaks the system and i think its the occult cheat and points. The Always Accept Cheat should be set to one green bar or Sims will sometimes refuse. I have no idea what occult cheat and points are. But if you want to give your Player Sim an edge for Sex Pairs points give them the Alluring and Sexually Alluring Traits. Then give him/her the Unique Appearance Trait for the Attractions System as it will make your Sim more attractive to other Sims. You have to remember that Attractiveness works both ways and not all NPC Sims will find your Sim attractive either but using the above trait is like using a cheat.
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