WickedWhims

[Guest]

3 hours ago, 694201337 said:

i have spent all day narrowing down the cause of my infinite loading screens when entering CAS from a loaded household and it seems Wicked Whims is causing this. I am running the newest version. What is the reason?

dx11 was my cause for the infinite loadscreen, disabling it solved everything, it may or may not work for you as everyones systems and mod usage are different but worth a shot

[Mooz22]

3 hours ago, Mellor81 said:

yeh i figuered that out lol s4s did more harm than good, it did just recatorgorise stuff instead of fixing them, i finally got kijiko's as i use hers the most so thanks for the links are MMSIMS updated now because there the ones i need the most i deleted other creators for now.

MMSims listed in the links there is to her latest update. Looks like she updated her entire collection (or at least a bunch). I have all those updated mods provided in my links and collectively gave me ~20 fixed lashes to chose from which is pretty good. 

[naughtywulf]

12 hours ago, Mooz22 said:

Sims autonomously flirting with each other (as they always have), but now they get a negative reaction from it (i.e. two females).... yet keep doing it. Why? 

I think I have seen this before and managed to disable this either by WW or MCC, but now with this major attraction overhaul... I am puzzled. This negative reaction or ignoring sexual orientation can be disabled right?

 

I honestly never gave a fuck about attraction/orientation settings, and been fine with any thing goes. Any one able to help? 

Lmao, right? I don't get why EA forced this BS on us. I did not buy the new DLC, but still have to deal with the fallout. I had a sim out on an event and one of the sims he had flirted with before came by and embraced him. Suddenly a line of three other sims who he had flirted with formed to slap him. Like WTF? Why is the jealousy enabled to such a ridiculous level by default?

Edited August 14, 2024 by naughtywulf

[Zebulon33]

Are there animations for the new romantic blanket?

[0Thoughtz]

12 hours ago, Mooz22 said:

Apologies if I am about to rehash several obvious, already stated, tried efforts, but... 

Again, this Lovestruck update changed a lot of things in CAS. 

• Changes to the sexual orientation menu
• Changes (removal) of Attraction likes/dislikes 
• Added UI features (apply to all, eyelash category) 

If you have any mods that touch any of this stuff and have NOT updated them, you will likely run into issues like the one you are having. 

There are mods other than WW on this site that touch traits, add cas stuff, touch UI elements. Check those. Also make sure you updated your core mods such as "More CAS Columns", UI Cheats Extension", "MCC". I have all these mods and WW up to date along with 1,000s of CC CAS items and experience no load issues. 

 

Another issue it could be (but probably not) is related to error code 123. Of which I still need this mod to remedy it or else I get infinite load screens when traveling to community lots. Give this mod a shot if you don't have it. 

All of those core mods are up to date. So far the only mod removal that has let me load existing sims in CAS is Wicked Whims. This is very odd. I will include the lastUIException that I get

 

Spoiler

<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<root>
    <report>
        <version>2</version>
        <sessionid>af9ee441ed2783cc66bc6d33</sessionid>
        <type>desync</type>
        <sku>ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc</sku>
        <createtime>2024-08-14 09:05:25</createtime>
        <buildsignature>Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.108.349.1020-1.300.000.189.Release</buildsignature>
        <categoryid>(AS)widgets.CAS.Molecule.data::CASPreferencesSelectionDataFeed</categoryid>
        <desyncid>af9ee441ed2783cc66bc6d33</desyncid>
        <systemconfig/>
        <screenshot/>
        <desyncdata>TypeError: Error #1009: Cannot access a property or method of a null object reference.
    at widgets.CAS.Molecule.data::CASPreferencesSelectionDataFeed/AddSelectedTraitToCache()
    at widgets.CAS.Molecule.data::CASPreferencesSelectionDataFeed/SetSimInfo()
    at widgets.CAS.Molecule::EquippedTraitsAsp/SetSimInfo()
    at widgets.CAS.Molecule::CASMoleculeMain/HandleSetSimInfo()
    at olympus.core.widget::WidgetBase/Initialize()
    at olympus.core::LayoutManager/LoadWidgetCompleteHandler()
rtim=135871
Client Session Time: 522.96
Num Save Errors: 0
Num Load Errors: 0
Current Game State: 0x96d01090
LoadingScreenActiveFlag: 1
Origin Version: 13,269,0,5782
Modded: True
SystemInfo: Windows 10 10.0.19045 GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950M nvldumdx.dll 32.0.15.6081, GUID: D7B71E3E-50DA-11CF-1360-9F310DC2ED35
</desyncdata>
    </report>
</root>

 

Edited August 14, 2024 by 694201337
Adding lastUIException text

[Mooz22]

3 hours ago, 694201337 said:

All of those core mods are up to date. So far the only mod removal that has let me load existing sims in CAS is Wicked Whims. This is very odd. I will include the lastUIException that I get

 

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<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<root>
    <report>
        <version>2</version>
        <sessionid>af9ee441ed2783cc66bc6d33</sessionid>
        <type>desync</type>
        <sku>ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc</sku>
        <createtime>2024-08-14 09:05:25</createtime>
        <buildsignature>Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.108.349.1020-1.300.000.189.Release</buildsignature>
        <categoryid>(AS)widgets.CAS.Molecule.data::CASPreferencesSelectionDataFeed</categoryid>
        <desyncid>af9ee441ed2783cc66bc6d33</desyncid>
        <systemconfig/>
        <screenshot/>
        <desyncdata>TypeError: Error #1009: Cannot access a property or method of a null object reference.
    at widgets.CAS.Molecule.data::CASPreferencesSelectionDataFeed/AddSelectedTraitToCache()
    at widgets.CAS.Molecule.data::CASPreferencesSelectionDataFeed/SetSimInfo()
    at widgets.CAS.Molecule::EquippedTraitsAsp/SetSimInfo()
    at widgets.CAS.Molecule::CASMoleculeMain/HandleSetSimInfo()
    at olympus.core.widget::WidgetBase/Initialize()
    at olympus.core::LayoutManager/LoadWidgetCompleteHandler()
rtim=135871
Client Session Time: 522.96
Num Save Errors: 0
Num Load Errors: 0
Current Game State: 0x96d01090
LoadingScreenActiveFlag: 1
Origin Version: 13,269,0,5782
Modded: True
SystemInfo: Windows 10 10.0.19045 GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950M nvldumdx.dll 32.0.15.6081, GUID: D7B71E3E-50DA-11CF-1360-9F310DC2ED35
</desyncdata>
    </report>
</root>

 

Wish I had a better solution for you. Try reinstalling the latest version of WW again, but Delete (not overwrite) the old version. Also create a copy of your SettingsProfile to your desktop, found in your Saves>WW folder (just in case you lose your old WW settings. And reinstall WW. Also assuming you are on the Sims patch version that came out on 8/8. Also you could see if Better Exceptions tells you more info. 

[Patrickq]

From v181c patch notes: "Shy Sims will no longer die from being embarrassed after flirting"

 

I can't. 🤣

[0Thoughtz]

1 hour ago, Mooz22 said:

Wish I had a better solution for you. Try reinstalling the latest version of WW again, but Delete (not overwrite) the old version. Also create a copy of your SettingsProfile to your desktop, found in your Saves>WW folder (just in case you lose your old WW settings. And reinstall WW. Also assuming you are on the Sims patch version that came out on 8/8. Also you could see if Better Exceptions tells you more info. 

Did not work. Starting a new save with the exact same mod setup worked tho. Only my current ones seem to have an issue

[naughtywulf]

28 minutes ago, 694201337 said:

Did not work. Starting a new save with the exact same mod setup worked tho. Only my current ones seem to have an issue

Do you have any custom traits installed?

Don't know if you saw my previous post, but I found that any of my sims that have custom traits won't let me open CAS. Other sims in the same family will let you open it, but opening it with the sim that has the custom traits leads to infinite loads.

The problem does go away when removing WW, but the traits are broken too.

That's why I think that all pre Lovestruck saves should just be treated as corrupted. You can still play them, but I suspect it's not going to ever be 100% stable again.

[0Thoughtz]

1 hour ago, naughtywulf said:

Do you have any custom traits installed?

Don't know if you saw my previous post, but I found that any of my sims that have custom traits won't let me open CAS. Other sims in the same family will let you open it, but opening it with the sim that has the custom traits leads to infinite loads.

The problem does go away when removing WW, but the traits are broken too.

That's why I think that all pre Lovestruck saves should just be treated as corrupted. You can still play them, but I suspect it's not going to ever be 100% stable again.

That seems to be the case. Managed to get into CAS with a workaround but when I was done there several parts of the UI just stopped working so couldnt save anyways. Saves seem absolutely FUBAR. Thanks EA....

[Guest]

14 hours ago, Mooz22 said:

MMSims listed in the links there is to her latest update. Looks like she updated her entire collection (or at least a bunch). I have all those updated mods provided in my links and collectively gave me ~20 fixed lashes to chose from which is pretty good. 

awesome

[Guest]

7 hours ago, 694201337 said:

All of those core mods are up to date. So far the only mod removal that has let me load existing sims in CAS is Wicked Whims. This is very odd. I will include the lastUIException that I get

 

  Hide contents

<?xml version="1.0" ?>
<root>
    <report>
        <version>2</version>
        <sessionid>af9ee441ed2783cc66bc6d33</sessionid>
        <type>desync</type>
        <sku>ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc</sku>
        <createtime>2024-08-14 09:05:25</createtime>
        <buildsignature>Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.108.349.1020-1.300.000.189.Release</buildsignature>
        <categoryid>(AS)widgets.CAS.Molecule.data::CASPreferencesSelectionDataFeed</categoryid>
        <desyncid>af9ee441ed2783cc66bc6d33</desyncid>
        <systemconfig/>
        <screenshot/>
        <desyncdata>TypeError: Error #1009: Cannot access a property or method of a null object reference.
    at widgets.CAS.Molecule.data::CASPreferencesSelectionDataFeed/AddSelectedTraitToCache()
    at widgets.CAS.Molecule.data::CASPreferencesSelectionDataFeed/SetSimInfo()
    at widgets.CAS.Molecule::EquippedTraitsAsp/SetSimInfo()
    at widgets.CAS.Molecule::CASMoleculeMain/HandleSetSimInfo()
    at olympus.core.widget::WidgetBase/Initialize()
    at olympus.core::LayoutManager/LoadWidgetCompleteHandler()
rtim=135871
Client Session Time: 522.96
Num Save Errors: 0
Num Load Errors: 0
Current Game State: 0x96d01090
LoadingScreenActiveFlag: 1
Origin Version: 13,269,0,5782
Modded: True
SystemInfo: Windows 10 10.0.19045 GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950M nvldumdx.dll 32.0.15.6081, GUID: D7B71E3E-50DA-11CF-1360-9F310DC2ED35
</desyncdata>
    </report>
</root>

 

shouldnt xml version be 4.0 not 1.0? a lot of mods depend on xml id start by updating that.

Edited August 14, 2024 by Mellor81

[naughtywulf]

Hmm, lots of new exceptions today after updating WW and WP.

Wut mean?

Exception when applying action <RefreshWhimsLootOp ParticipantType.Actor> for loot loot_Want_Refresh_Reactionary(loot_actions=(<RefreshWhimsLootOp ParticipantType.Actor>,), run_test_first=False, tests=CompoundTestList([])) (AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'guid64')

Exception when applying action <RefreshWhimsLootOp ParticipantType.Actor> for loot loot_Want_Refresh_Reactionary(loot_actions=(<RefreshWhimsLootOp ParticipantType.Actor>,), run_test_first=False, tests=CompoundTestList([])) (AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'guid64') 

 

[Magnaderra]

Turbo, there is a problem with the orientation of the Servo. When they are first created, they have no orientation at all, and so they always refuse sex. This is fixable by asking them about their love preferences.

[pastetones]

Hi, my game is not reconizing newer versions, it doesnt show the pop up messages in the begining, and mods ands scripts are activated!

[0Thoughtz]

3 hours ago, Mellor81 said:

shouldnt xml version be 4.0 not 1.0? a lot of mods depend on xml id start by updating that.

Idk thats what Better Exceptions spat out for me

 

UPDATE: Some families can be loaded into CAS regardless of whether they have modded traits or not, and some cant. The only clear thing is base game traits never cause issues. I have tried removing all non-updated trait mods from the mods folder but it didnt make a difference

Edited August 14, 2024 by 694201337
Adding update

[jonjohnson2525]

Is anyone else's sims attracted to EVERYONE? I can't figure out why everyone is attracted to everyone. Not sure if this is a Lovestruck problem or a WW problem.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, 694201337 said:

Idk thats what Better Exceptions spat out for me

you need xml version 4, google scumbumbo xml and you'll find it , select the V4 version, clear all your cache before downloading it and disable dx11 if you have it enabled. im pretty sure most cc traits use xml too

Edited August 14, 2024 by Mellor81

[0Thoughtz]

2 minutes ago, Mellor81 said:

you need xml version 4, google scumbumbo xml and you'll find it it, selct V4 version, clear all you cache before downloading it and disable dx11 if you have it enabled.

I had the v4 version installed already, and dx11 was never enabled. Unsure why Better Exceptions talks about xml 1.0

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, 694201337 said:

I had the v4 version installed already, and dx11 was never enabled. Unsure why Better Exceptions talks about xml 1.0

if you already have v4 then yeh thats a strange one lol have you considered removing just all your animations? they too can screw with some parts of the game, i lost all the romance bars and relationships the other day, turned out it was one crappy animation that caused havoc with the entire game

 

Edited August 14, 2024 by Mellor81

[0Thoughtz]

6 minutes ago, Mellor81 said:

if you already have v4 then yeh thats a strange one lol have you considered removing just all your animations? they too can screw with some parts of the game, i lost all the romance bars and relationships the other day, turned out it was one crappy animation that caused havoc with the entire game

 

What seems to be extra odd is that only some families get this issue. Always ones with custom traits but not all custom traits seem to cause it. The issue persists regardless of if the traits are in my mod folder or not

[Guest]

1 hour ago, 694201337 said:

What seems to be extra odd is that only some families get this issue. Always ones with custom traits but not all custom traits seem to cause it. The issue persists regardless of if the traits are in my mod folder or not

i had exactly that issue with my main family in my main save, if it persists either way it could be that theres still some record of it in a file or something, give this a try, remove all CC traits, delete local thumbcache and cfg file from mods folder then delete the wickedwhimsinfolog, avatar cache and clientDB  in the sims 4 folder, load your game save and let it run for a minuet then save as but save it in a new slot the exit game and load the new save up and try entering CAS.

Edited August 14, 2024 by Mellor81
added info

[naughtywulf]

3 hours ago, 0Thoughtz said:

What seems to be extra odd is that only some families get this issue. Always ones with custom traits but not all custom traits seem to cause it. The issue persists regardless of if the traits are in my mod folder or not

Here is what I did. Download BetterExceptions. Then go to your chosen family and enter CAS with a sim that does NOT have custom traits. Like a child. If not, maybe adopt a townie for the test.

Go to CAS using them. Then select your main sim in CAS. Now some exceptions will be thrown, and BE will open up a webpage with them. Should be a bunch of custom traits.

My output was this:

 

Mods\09.package	04/26/2023
Mods\[D1]TS4_Road To Fame -MOD- Beta v 0.4 H.package	02/05/2021
Mods\AllTraitsInCAS_NC_RewardStore_BG.package	01/02/2023
Mods\ATICAS_Values_Compassionate.package	06/26/2019
Mods\Daleko_FeminineTrait.package	04/20/2018
Mods\Des_Kitty.package	07/01/2019
Mods\Ksuihuh_SugarLife.package	05/20/2019
Mods\SimmerSarah_CustomTraitPackТЕСТ.package	11/26/2017
Mods\SliceOfLife\KS - Beautiful Trait V3 (Everyone).package	12/05/2023
Mods\SliceOfLife\KS - More Traits [Volume1].package	06/29/2022
Mods\SliceOfLife\KS - Traits Bundle#1.package	12/04/2023
Mods\Traits\[NoException]Zodiac Trait Pack by SkillfulSimmer340.package	11/23/2020
Mods\Traits\FlirtyTrait.package	05/15/2020
Mods\Traits\GirlyGirlTrait.package	05/27/2020
Mods\Traits\HighMaintenanceTraitKiko.package	07/19/2018
Mods\Traits\Skarrds_Sexually Akward_trait.package

You can then try removing those to see if it makes your problem go away. But I found that the traits appear to work in my game, and I would rather thave them than not, so just remembering to not open CAS with those specidfic sims is a small price to pay to keep playing my save.

Edited August 15, 2024 by naughtywulf

[naughtywulf]

Ugggghhhh. So WW is till bugged for me. Someday I'll find the dang mod that is causing this interference,

In the meantime, can someone please show me what these jealousy settings are inside the new protocol settings so I can re-set mine correctly?

[0Thoughtz]

14 hours ago, naughtywulf said:

Here is what I did. Download BetterExceptions. Then go to your chosen family and enter CAS with a sim that does NOT have custom traits. Like a child. If not, maybe adopt a townie for the test.

Go to CAS using them. Then select your main sim in CAS. Now some exceptions will be thrown, and BE will open up a webpage with them. Should be a bunch of custom traits.

My output was this:

 

Mods\09.package	04/26/2023
Mods\[D1]TS4_Road To Fame -MOD- Beta v 0.4 H.package	02/05/2021
Mods\AllTraitsInCAS_NC_RewardStore_BG.package	01/02/2023
Mods\ATICAS_Values_Compassionate.package	06/26/2019
Mods\Daleko_FeminineTrait.package	04/20/2018
Mods\Des_Kitty.package	07/01/2019
Mods\Ksuihuh_SugarLife.package	05/20/2019
Mods\SimmerSarah_CustomTraitPackТЕСТ.package	11/26/2017
Mods\SliceOfLife\KS - Beautiful Trait V3 (Everyone).package	12/05/2023
Mods\SliceOfLife\KS - More Traits [Volume1].package	06/29/2022
Mods\SliceOfLife\KS - Traits Bundle#1.package	12/04/2023
Mods\Traits\[NoException]Zodiac Trait Pack by SkillfulSimmer340.package	11/23/2020
Mods\Traits\FlirtyTrait.package	05/15/2020
Mods\Traits\GirlyGirlTrait.package	05/27/2020
Mods\Traits\HighMaintenanceTraitKiko.package	07/19/2018
Mods\Traits\Skarrds_Sexually Akward_trait.package

You can then try removing those to see if it makes your problem go away. But I found that the traits appear to work in my game, and I would rather thave them than not, so just remembering to not open CAS with those specidfic sims is a small price to pay to keep playing my save.

Tested around a little more. Seems that any sims I cant load into cas will also break the UI so most buttons are unresponsive if I try to access their simology panel. It seems the two issues are tied together. I did manage to use that workaround early on but ended up having the UI broken anyways afterwards