WickedWhims

[slps]

I am finally done with Sims 4 and Wicked Whims

 

if it is not one evidently broken gameplay issue then it is another

 

I spend more time trying to work through/around these issues than playing Sims 4

 

I have lost sense of which third-party mods still work and which don't with each evolution of the game

 

at least Turbodriver tries to promptly resolve issues with Wicked Whims but he has only just learned to write helpful guidance for his always expanding mod and immediately lost his way with seeming game pointless collection of trophy panties

 

I sort of get why Turbodriver outlawed teen sex for personal moral reasons but workaround predictably popped up almost overnight

 

what finally broke me was seemingly random loss of sex act progression despite repeated erasing all trace of Sims 4 and reinstalling both Sims 4 and Wicked Whims

 

Maxis and Electronics Arts notoriously don't give a shit about promptly fixing gameplay issues with their endless offerings after selling them - which I simply stopped buying some time ago - let alone wrecking other player mods

 

there are other social simulation games out there including sex

[lechkingofdead]

On 4/26/2024 at 11:59 AM, slps said:

I am finally done with Sims 4 and Wicked Whims

 

if it is not one evidently broken gameplay issue then it is another

 

I spend more time trying to work through/around these issues than playing Sims 4

 

I have lost sense of which third-party mods still work and which don't with each evolution of the game

 

at least Turbodriver tries to promptly resolve issues with Wicked Whims but he has only just learned to write helpful guidance for his always expanding mod and immediately lost his way with seeming game pointless collection of trophy panties

 

I sort of get why Turbodriver outlawed teen sex for personal moral reasons but workaround predictably popped up almost overnight

 

what finally broke me was seemingly random loss of sex act progression despite repeated erasing all trace of Sims 4 and reinstalling both Sims 4 and Wicked Whims

 

Maxis and Electronics Arts notoriously don't give a shit about promptly fixing gameplay issues with their endless offerings after selling them - which I simply stopped buying some time ago - let alone wrecking other player mods

 

there are other social simulation games out there including sex

if ya happen to find a decent one throw it. ill suport anyone not EA and my ass just tried using a copy of sims and a copy of wicked and neather felt like working. plus i only pirated sims 4 for wicked use sense i was in a mood to tempt things. but alas sims just exists to be agony. even sims 3 for the matter has got problems i need to unfack somehow. like finding were it stores stuff deeper in as i got removed mods active there. so ya sims 4 maybe playable if ya somehow got everything. hella intrestin even. but GOD DAM is it not happy about mods existing. i know of a sim game called life play open sorce and stuff. mod happy as a chaos potato trying to escape its playpen. )rats btw) just a bit basic and janky at times but otherwise good. its about the only one i know of currently worth anything if ya want a semi sims like.

[lupololo]

Having some issues with NPC sex autonomy. 2 sims can start an autonomous sex but nobody join them even with gender preference disable. When I play with my main sim, NPC ask to join him whem he is in sex. 

 

I've of course check all settings about autonomy, and I was surprised by the fact that there is no more settings about autonomous chance to join. Is Turbo has deleted this?

 

And I've also notice that some NPC during sex autonomy are using the same exact place to make sex. For example I've encounter to different couples using the same bath in sex autonomy, or the same bed. Of course I've check if they weren't the same group of NPC having sex, but no it was two different group. 

 

 

If there is someone here that encounter the same kind of issue, I'll appreciate their help to make this working has it was before... 

 

[MickCasanova]

This mod is hopelessly busted. Way too much bloat, and adding too many things for no reason.

[Mooz22]

@TURBODRIVER, please for the love of god revert your mod to what you had prior to your latest major build! Basically the version BEFORE you reworked a lot of the sex autonomy and added room logic. This overhaul you released a few months back has only opened many bugs and we are not seeing enough future releases addressing them; only discovering more issues and unnecessary features instead.

 

Yes, I know, you can't literally rollback to a prior release thanks to EA nuking the mod scene (reassess your code), but man, this new room logic you recently added is abysmal, (autonomy, joining, object preference weights, etc. are broken in some way). You REMOVED several autonomy settings (partner count, tile count, indoor/outdoor settings and more) in place of this room logic, settings which you mentioned in your release notes were things that never quite worked right anyway but settings you said would come back... so how is that coming and how is your mod doing today? This mod arguably worked better with those settings albeit with some flaws.

 

In short, I ask that you reconsider your current build and restore those older autonomy settings. Hell you can continue to flesh them out alongside room logic in your dev environment. Consider this current build the test you needed, consider it broken and revert back to the old way.

 

The sims community takes enough shit from EA, they don't need it from a mod author especially one as BIG as you.

You are a framework mod, not a cheeky panty-collector mod for the lol's.

 

 

Some Bugs/Issues I run into:

 

1. ROOM LOGIC: Sometimes they want the bed, sometimes never. Sometimes they pick the small closet over everything else almost every time. Sometimes mostly just that one "thing/place". Then the next sex couple joins them literally on top of each other when the lot has multiple unoccupied rooms.  I don't understand room logic!

2. PREFERENCE WEIGHTS: Setting preference weights seems inconsistent. I set a lounge chair to -3 preference and they still pick it 75% of the time. Even with MANY items (counters. couch, toy...) set to varied increased weights, they almost NEVER get picked.

3. SEX PARTY: NPCs not initiating sex with NPCs at Sex Party. They only want to initiate sex with any eligible sim of the played household.

4. NPC SEX - RESIDENTIAL LOT: NPCs not having sex with NPCs at residential lot. Only if invited or forced to by the played household. Similar to above.

5. SEX RESERVATION SETTING: Even when this is on, two sex couples will still use the same object (chair) at the same time, clipping into each other.

6. PARTNER COUNT SETTING: I no longer have a setting to set the max partner count. Or was this just one of the many features you took out for reasons.

7. DURATION: Duration count does not seem to work, I increase the value from 3 to 5 minutes and still they seem to finish in the same amount of time and BEFORE climax.

8. COMPLEX LOTS: Multi stories, foundations, stairs, many rooms, decks, patios... basically the entirety of the lot goes MOSTLY unoccupied for related reasons mentioned above. IDK if this matters, but your room logic might get lost when trying to differentiate a walk-in closet from an open-concept living room/kitchen area.

 

All the above WORKED in your previous version (pre-room logic).

Edited May 2, 2024 by mx22
Typo and add to bug list

[Mooz22]

On 4/29/2024 at 10:11 PM, lupololo said:

Having some issues with NPC sex autonomy. 2 sims can start an autonomous sex but nobody join them even with gender preference disable. When I play with my main sim, NPC ask to join him whem he is in sex. 

 

I've of course check all settings about autonomy, and I was surprised by the fact that there is no more settings about autonomous chance to join. Is Turbo has deleted this?

 

And I've also notice that some NPC during sex autonomy are using the same exact place to make sex. For example I've encounter to different couples using the same bath in sex autonomy, or the same bed. Of course I've check if they weren't the same group of NPC having sex, but no it was two different group. 

 

 

If there is someone here that encounter the same kind of issue, I'll appreciate their help to make this working has it was before... 

 

Oh, I literally just posted a comment with related issues. One thing I noted was about the NPC/autonomy issues. Of your issues, one solution for you may be to look at your "autonomy_minimum_actors_limit" setting. This used to be found in to the WW settings in game, but looks to be removed. I was still able to edit the setting though via the SettingsProfile file found in your ElectronicArts>TheSims4>Saves>WickedWhimsMod>SettingsProfile. There you have a min setting which I believe is set to '2' by default and a max setting which can be set up to '10'. If your min is set to '2' then that could be why no one else joins them. I changed mine from 4 to 3 which basically means any autonomy sex happening results in threesomes instead of foursomes. And that I can manually invite up to 10 sims (considering an animation is available).

[redkunaz]

option to always keep accesories during sex when automatic sex is on, would be appreciated

[Mooz22]

On 5/5/2024 at 11:19 PM, redkunaz said:

option to always keep accesories during sex when automatic sex is on, would be appreciated

Couple things... there are clothing/undressing settings, you can toggle some settings such as "undress gloves with top", check that out it might help. Things like rings/jewelry and hats always stay on for me, whereas socks/tights, gloves come off. 

 

The other thing is that some cc items for example might not be flagged as being available for "nude" outfits and/or it is flagged as an accessory item that doesn't comes off with WW undressing settings (i.e. "hat"). You can use that program Sims4Studio to edit cc items as a workaround. For example, say you have a cc fox tail ("sock") equipped to a sim, but don't like that it comes off during sex or showering. Just install that program, check a couple boxes on the cc you want to edit, and you can fix that problem.

[hughraphael]

Honestly when I saw the v179a description I was like, "This is an April Fool, right?"

 

A month later, I'm still using v178c.

[hughraphael]

Convince to Practice Naturism doesn't seem to do anything. It used to give unplayed Sims the Nudity Enthusiast trait. Maybe it got broken?

[shishadotcom]

On 5/3/2024 at 12:00 AM, mx22 said:

@TURBODRIVER, please for the love of god revert your mod to what you had prior to your latest major build! Basically the version BEFORE you reworked a lot of the sex autonomy and added room logic. This overhaul you released a few months back has only opened many bugs and we are not seeing enough future releases addressing them; only discovering more issues and unnecessary features instead.

 

Yes, I know, you can't literally rollback to a prior release thanks to EA nuking the mod scene (reassess your code), but man, this new room logic you recently added is abysmal, (autonomy, joining, object preference weights, etc. are broken in some way). You REMOVED several autonomy settings (partner count, tile count, indoor/outdoor settings and more) in place of this room logic, settings which you mentioned in your release notes were things that never quite worked right anyway but settings you said would come back... so how is that coming and how is your mod doing today? This mod arguably worked better with those settings albeit with some flaws.

 

In short, I ask that you reconsider your current build and restore those older autonomy settings. Hell you can continue to flesh them out alongside room logic in your dev environment. Consider this current build the test you needed, consider it broken and revert back to the old way.

 

The sims community takes enough shit from EA, they don't need it from a mod author especially one as BIG as you.

You are a framework mod, not a cheeky panty-collector mod for the lol's.

 

 

Some Bugs/Issues I run into:

 

1. ROOM LOGIC: Sometimes they want the bed, sometimes never. Sometimes they pick the small closet over everything else almost every time. Sometimes mostly just that one "thing/place". Then the next sex couple joins them literally on top of each other when the lot has multiple unoccupied rooms.  I don't understand room logic!

2. PREFERENCE WEIGHTS: Setting preference weights seems inconsistent. I set a lounge chair to -3 preference and they still pick it 75% of the time. Even with MANY items (counters. couch, toy...) set to varied increased weights, they almost NEVER get picked.

3. SEX PARTY: NPCs not initiating sex with NPCs at Sex Party. They only want to initiate sex with any eligible sim of the played household.

4. NPC SEX - RESIDENTIAL LOT: NPCs not having sex with NPCs at residential lot. Only if invited or forced to by the played household. Similar to above.

5. SEX RESERVATION SETTING: Even when this is on, two sex couples will still use the same object (chair) at the same time, clipping into each other.

6. PARTNER COUNT SETTING: I no longer have a setting to set the max partner count. Or was this just one of the many features you took out for reasons.

7. DURATION: Duration count does not seem to work, I increase the value from 3 to 5 minutes and still they seem to finish in the same amount of time and BEFORE climax.

8. COMPLEX LOTS: Multi stories, foundations, stairs, many rooms, decks, patios... basically the entirety of the lot goes MOSTLY unoccupied for related reasons mentioned above. IDK if this matters, but your room logic might get lost when trying to differentiate a walk-in closet from an open-concept living room/kitchen area.

 

All the above WORKED in your previous version (pre-room logic).

Where i come from, theres a saying that you have hit the nail on the head; meaning you said it exactly how majority are feeling, I am in a club gathering and two married couples are refusing each other sex, it makes no sense, everything is changed and not fun anymore..............i noticed when my played sim is in the university, her roommates end up sexing each other, i was so excited because its been a long time i have seen an actual npc have sex with another npc without me forcing or controling them to, i thought the game automatically works, went back home and other npcs did nothing but refuse each other, i realised its only in university..... I hope they do something about it because whats the fun if its not autonomy for non played sims.

[Tiego_Escrobar02]

I have a big problem, all the strip clubs I created no longer work. I don't know how to say it so much that I'm tired of it. We spend hours making a house of cards and every time there is a disappointed shit blowing. This game is not playable in the long term, it's a nightmare.

[Tiego_Escrobar02]

 

why suddenly the game no longer considers my club as property of my sims

[lupololo]

Is there a future update on the way to fix all the autonomy issues ?

[Sandatharius]

53 minutes ago, lupololo said:

Is there a future update on the way to fix all the autonomy issues ?

 

Are you talking about base game/DLC autonomy? Or WW autonomy? Personally, I have no issues with either base game/DLC, or WW autonomy in the game.

[lupololo]

12 minutes ago, Sandatharius said:

 

Are you talking about base game/DLC autonomy? Or WW autonomy? Personally, I have no issues with either base game/DLC, or WW autonomy in the game.

About WW sex autonomy of course, I'm here for WW not the base game 😅

[Sandatharius]

55 minutes ago, lupololo said:

About WW sex autonomy of course, I'm here for WW not the base game 😅

 

Well, people post base game issues in the WW forum all the time.
 

As mentioned, I have no issues with WW autonomy. What specifically are you having issues with in WW?

Edited May 11, 2024 by Sandatharius

[krosswastaken]

hello, first message here and i don't know if im in the right place but...

my ww mod or any mods doesnt seemms to be detected by the game :

 

i got the game when it was free in epic game store.

i've done everything correctly but htere something that is concerning about my game repertory : 

 

it feels like its missing files ? when i watch other people videos i see lots of files here but why not in my gmae reprtory ?

[krosswastaken]

for some reasons my image doesnt work so here all my folders : 

_installer
Data
Delta
Game
Mods [I created it myself]
Support

[krosswastaken]

im such a dumbass. problem solved

[Sandatharius]

1 hour ago, krosswastaken said:

im such a dumbass. problem solved

 

So, you discovered that the game creates 2 separate installed folders, and you had Mods in the game files folder, when it should have been placed in the Documents > Electronic Arts > The Sims 4 folder?

Edited May 13, 2024 by Sandatharius

[lupololo]

On 11/05/2024 at 01:49, Sandatharius said:

 

Eh bien, les gens publient tout le temps des problèmes de jeu de base sur le forum WW.
 

Comme mentionné, je n'ai aucun problème avec l'autonomie de WW. Avec quoi spécifiquement rencontrez-vous des problèmes dans WW ?

It's principally about joining sex autonomy. NPC don't join any sex activity. They ask to join my main sim when he's in sex, but not between NPC eachother.

[Delzaron]

I got an error about a rig problem, And nisa up to date don't work anymore...

 

help please.

[TrueAnimal]

Does "Randomize all sims wicked attributes" feature even work? I click it and it just adds all selected attributes to sims instead of randomizing

[Sandatharius]

On 5/13/2024 at 6:16 PM, lupololo said:

It's principally about joining sex autonomy. NPC don't join any sex activity. They ask to join my main sim when he's in sex, but not between NPC eachother.

 

I have no issues. NPCs are constantly joining each other. A bar/nightclub that I placed in my game can have as many as 3-5 couples, independent of whether my Sim is having sex at the same time. Most of the NPC sex ain't pretty - but they're doing it. I don't have the 'ask' option turned on except for my own female Sim, so they just go ahead and join whatever NPC(s) is/are having sex at that particular time.

Edited May 18, 2024 by Sandatharius