IDEA Ysolda's whore house mod just an idea for now

[Zor2k13]

I just might attempt to make this dam thing! but it would rely on other mods most likely maria eden mod but I want ysolda to have unique dialogue for the whole thing instead of the maria eden generic pimp dialogue.

 

The idea...

 

Ysolda wants to be a merchant so bad she even does business with a bunch of filthy cats! Hulda will NEVER retire EVER so her dreams of owning the bannered mare are a waste boo hooes lol.

 

Ysolda needs the players help to build her own tavern just outside of whiterun but she doesn't have the money or the talent to get it started. So the player somehow helps her to get the initial money to start it off kinda like how dragonborn dlc works with that guy digging up the nordic ruin for the armor. The player pays her some gold and she gets the building of the whore house started. Player comes back in a few days and the first part of the place is built. She then asks the player for more money to build the second part and then the third part. Finally after all the parts are built she tells the player what she will be selling in there... the player! thats right ysolda wants to whore out the player as her first whore in her brand new whore house! Ysolda will work the bar during the day and some other npc will work the bar at night while ysolda goes home to sleep. As the whole thing progresses ysolda's outfit will change she will wear increasingly richer looking clothes as it goes on until she has some very fancy rich merchant type clothes she wears.

 

The parts and how they work...

 

The first part is the normal tavern type of area with a bar and some drunk customers and a bard etc.

 

The second part is the entertainment area basically big open interior space second floor where the maria crazy ass events can happen which draw a lot of npcs at once or maybe something else I haven't thought it out too much yet.

 

The third part is the back area which could be two wings left and right that are basically just big fancy rooms for npcs to screw whores in. So the rooms are not gonna be small and cramped and annoying to use a third person camera in. The player will at first be in one of these rooms and as they progress through the whore line they get up to the highest level whore rank they get the big whore room in the middle between the two wings where only the rich clients come in and pay for the player. There will be a lobby before entering the rooms area where all the whiterun npcs that are customers will gather and wait for their turn with a whore. There will also be some generic npcs waiting in there too because those vanilla npcs can only go there after work every day. I want to work out how some rich client npcs like yarls or elsif or maven or whoever could go there on a regular basis but use teleport scripts instead of letting them walk there.

 

Maybe there could be a way to simply randomly placed npcs from lists I make in there as customers during certain hours I dunno yet.

 

There will be some femdom npcs there to keep the whores in line and occasionally punish the player and other npcs. All the npc whores and femdoms are added over time as the player progresses through the whore line hehe storyline of the mod so it would be like the thieves guild and all those dam missions where eventually every room is stocked with a whore and the tavern is full of customers and there is a bard in there etc.

 

The player doesn't have to stay there forever they just get ysolda's whore house humming along and then she offers the player a chance to go free again and take some of the profits for themselves or allow her to sell the player to one of the rich clients that is interested in buying the player by convincing the player it would really help her out or maybe it would depend on the player slave level if that exists I don't know yet.

 

Basically once the whore house is topped off ysolda continues to live in her default home only she will have some really fancy rich clothes and the player can come back at any time and ask to work as a high class whore again. Ysolda will have an office in there where the player would have to go see her later on to be a whore again.

 

So bascially it is a fancy place for maria eden mod to work in stages but with some saucy custom dialogue along the way.

 

What I need to know is where in all the popular mods do they stick everything around the outside of whiterun? I am still trying to decide where this place should be near whiterun because I want it to be nearby on a main road but not close enough to the western watchtower to trigger a dam dragon or too close to the other tower to trigger the DB quest or mess it up dam that wagon wheel!!!!!

 

Anyone know of a good spot left near whiterun for a two story whore house with a fancy left and right wing rear area?

 

 

All this is a great idea but will take time to implement as I will have to go study the dragonborn azidal quest and how it works and the thieves guild missions quest and how it works. I don't want to screw up ysolda marriage options with this mod either.

[LoneGentleman]

Sounds like an interesting quest row mod with some perks to it. I'd install it.

[Delzaron]

I just might attempt to make this dam thing! but it would rely on other mods most likely maria eden mod but I want ysolda to have unique dialogue for the whole thing instead of the maria eden generic pimp dialogue.

 

The idea...

 

Ysolda wants to be a merchant so bad she even does business with a bunch of filthy cats! Hulda will NEVER retire EVER so her dreams of owning the bannered mare are a waste boo hooes lol.

 

Ysolda needs the players help to build her own tavern just outside of whiterun but she doesn't have the money or the talent to get it started. So the player somehow helps her to get the initial money to start it off kinda like how dragonborn dlc works with that guy digging up the nordic ruin for the armor. The player pays her some gold and she gets the building of the whore house started. Player comes back in a few days and the first part of the place is built. She then asks the player for more money to build the second part and then the third part. Finally after all the parts are built she tells the player what she will be selling in there... the player! thats right ysolda wants to whore out the player as her first whore in her brand new whore house! Ysolda will work the bar during the day and some other npc will work the bar at night while ysolda goes home to sleep. As the whole thing progresses ysolda's outfit will change she will wear increasingly richer looking clothes as it goes on until she has some very fancy rich merchant type clothes she wears.

 

The parts and how they work...

 

The first part is the normal tavern type of area with a bar and some drunk customers and a bard etc.

 

The second part is the entertainment area basically big open interior space second floor where the maria crazy ass events can happen which draw a lot of npcs at once or maybe something else I haven't thought it out too much yet.

 

The third part is the back area which could be two wings left and right that are basically just big fancy rooms for npcs to screw whores in. So the rooms are not gonna be small and cramped and annoying to use a third person camera in. The player will at first be in one of these rooms and as they progress through the whore line they get up to the highest level whore rank they get the big whore room in the middle between the two wings where only the rich clients come in and pay for the player. There will be a lobby before entering the rooms area where all the whiterun npcs that are customers will gather and wait for their turn with a whore. There will also be some generic npcs waiting in there too because those vanilla npcs can only go there after work every day. I want to work out how some rich client npcs like yarls or elsif or maven or whoever could go there on a regular basis but use teleport scripts instead of letting them walk there.

 

Maybe there could be a way to simply randomly placed npcs from lists I make in there as customers during certain hours I dunno yet.

 

There will be some femdom npcs there to keep the whores in line and occasionally punish the player and other npcs. All the npc whores and femdoms are added over time as the player progresses through the whore line hehe storyline of the mod so it would be like the thieves guild and all those dam missions where eventually every room is stocked with a whore and the tavern is full of customers and there is a bard in there etc.

 

The player doesn't have to stay there forever they just get ysolda's whore house humming along and then she offers the player a chance to go free again and take some of the profits for themselves or allow her to sell the player to one of the rich clients that is interested in buying the player by convincing the player it would really help her out or maybe it would depend on the player slave level if that exists I don't know yet.

 

Basically once the whore house is topped off ysolda continues to live in her default home only she will have some really fancy rich clothes and the player can come back at any time and ask to work as a high class whore again. Ysolda will have an office in there where the player would have to go see her later on to be a whore again.

 

So bascially it is a fancy place for maria eden mod to work in stages but with some saucy custom dialogue along the way.

 

What I need to know is where in all the popular mods do they stick everything around the outside of whiterun? I am still trying to decide where this place should be near whiterun because I want it to be nearby on a main road but not close enough to the western watchtower to trigger a dam dragon or too close to the other tower to trigger the DB quest or mess it up dam that wagon wheel!!!!!

 

Anyone know of a good spot left near whiterun for a two story whore house with a fancy left and right wing rear area?

 

 

All this is a great idea but will take time to implement as I will have to go study the dragonborn azidal quest and how it works and the thieves guild missions quest and how it works. I don't want to screw up ysolda marriage options with this mod either.

 

Same idea was proposed several times :

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/60686-quo-vagis-or-coito-ergo-sum-for-skyrim/

 

I had a project like that, but I never found the time to build it. Fallout 4 is not good, so I'm moving back on Skyrim (fixing bugs in my mods).

 

 

I think you can add that : brothel management, and morality choices.

 

Player works as the first whore, but as Ysolda first girl, player will help her to rule the place : by hiring other girls (or player is send to hire them)... so, the brothel will expend.

You will need to corrupt the autorities, etc...

 

And maybe you will need to make choices :

hiring a under age girl, some animals, helpess women. The mean is to explore player and Ysolda morality, and of course it will have consequences (reputation, crime, etc...)

 

In fact, I could help you for that... (i don't wish to build another mod alone : it's really a lot of work)

 

 

[Zor2k13]

Well I was thinking of ysolda as more of a goody two shoes npc... The thing with sex mods in skyrim is that slavery is supposed to be a common thing which most people don't complain about but fear being a victim of according to all the different slavery and sex mods dialogues I have heard so far. So ysolda wouldn't be evil for wanting to open a whore house she is more of a nieve young ambitious trader looking to get ahead somewhere. This explains why ysolda hasn't been able to take hulda's place for now and maybe hulda thinks ysolda just doesn't know everything she needs to know or understand to run things right. She needs to get out and find opportunity instead of just trying to take the easy out and buy a nearby business.

 

So ysolda would have this kind of young ambitious nieve personality and tone during the dialogue stuff trying to convince the player to help her as being a good thing. I was just thinking if the player has the immerslave mod installed and they chose the slave option of any kind maybe I could have different dialogue for ysolda to use with the player that would sound a bit more forceful and demanding but promising to take care of the player as a valuable slave instead of just treating her like crap.

 

I was also thinking this dialogue could lead to the player volunteering to be ysolda's slave but the problem is there is only two kinds of slavery mods for skyrim SD and maria eden. The whole SD thing would not fit for ysolda's good girl slave owner dialogue and the maria eden slavery is just a follow the player around and spank them thing which wouldn't work with her dialogue either. I am thinking it would be roleplay for the player only or use a special zaz device that cannot be removed by the player but instead only unlocks with a key that only ysolda has. The zaz wrist devices restrict the player from opening doors so I might just use those and a collar and some ankle chains but the slavery stuff between ysolda and the player would have to be made by me and it would be hard to figure out how to restrict the player from leaving the cell as long as they are still her slave. 

 

I am trying to work out how that relationship would work and wether or not there should be optional choices for it being permanent. In the meantime I am still trying to figure out what mods I have installed are making rape sex a rank reducing thing still haven't fixed that yet.

 

Yeah if someone could help that would be great, I think I can manage snapping together a building in the CK but I was recently thinking how azidals quest works. Basically I would have to make a location that is already there but not useable yet somehow like a destroyed building with a name but I don't know if I can change the name of the location at a later stage in the mod or if it has to remain the same. So I'm not sure if I can call it "ruined house" at first before the player talks to ysolda and starts the quest and then rename it to "Ysolda's whore house" later on when she starts building it. I think I will have to make one name for it but more generic but still implies it was and could be again a whore house of some kind. Of course I just remembered that hearthfire has all the player houses disabled until the player buys the land and builds them so I could take a look at how hearthfire handles disabled or changed locations.

 

This won't be something I can work on right away I am thinking I will have some time later on or maybe the beginning of next month to start on it not sure yet. The thing I am terrible at is the dam scripting I HATE scripting it is such a dam pain. Even if you have it right the compiler still won't compile sometimes omg that shit is rage inducing sometimes makes me want to go all supermutant on my computer or something lol.

 

 

I am thinking of how ysolda approaches the player to start this quest, maybe she won't approach until after the player brings her a mammoth tusk.

 

Here are some options I am considering since I am gonna try building this around maria eden mod to some extent...

 

If the player is whoring for hulda at the bannered mare, ysolda eventually pays for some time with the player and after sex she asks the player if they would like to come work for her.

 

If the player is wearing slave gear from DD mods and is not enslaved by SD she would approach the player and if the player has immerslave mod installed and started off as an escaped slave she would have some dialogue about that or even if the player started out as a slave and was allowed to leave their owner but still has the collar on she could offer to buy the player from their owner and remove the collar. She would also offer to pay the player bounty if they chose one from the immerslave mod at start. This whole approach in the dialogue would be handled like she offers comfort to a slave that is scared of the world after escaping and looking for safety in something they know.

 

From the whoring and slave/escaped slave approach the player is asked to whore for ysolda and earn her enough money to get started with the first part of the whore house. After there is enough money ysolda tells the player to come back later and she will have more work for the player.

 

If the player is not enslaved, not locked down with DD and did not start as an escaped slave then ysolda simply asks the player for money to get started with a promise of a return on their investment later. After each part is build the player gets their money back with interest and then has the option to continue helping her by investing further or not helping she won't be mad about it or whatever player can always come back later and finish things up. Only after the final part is done will she initiate dialogue about whoring for her in the whore house.

 

 

 

[Delzaron]

Well I was thinking of ysolda as more of a goody two shoes npc... The thing with sex mods in skyrim is that slavery is supposed to be a common thing which most people don't complain about but fear being a victim of according to all the different slavery and sex mods dialogues I have heard so far. So ysolda wouldn't be evil for wanting to open a whore house she is more of a nieve young ambitious trader looking to get ahead somewhere. This explains why ysolda hasn't been able to take hulda's place for now and maybe hulda thinks ysolda just doesn't know everything she needs to know or understand to run things right. She needs to get out and find opportunity instead of just trying to take the easy out and buy a nearby business.

 

So ysolda would have this kind of young ambitious nieve personality and tone during the dialogue stuff trying to convince the player to help her as being a good thing. I was just thinking if the player has the immerslave mod installed and they chose the slave option of any kind maybe I could have different dialogue for ysolda to use with the player that would sound a bit more forceful and demanding but promising to take care of the player as a valuable slave instead of just treating her like crap.

 

I was also thinking this dialogue could lead to the player volunteering to be ysolda's slave but the problem is there is only two kinds of slavery mods for skyrim SD and maria eden. The whole SD thing would not fit for ysolda's good girl slave owner dialogue and the maria eden slavery is just a follow the player around and spank them thing which wouldn't work with her dialogue either. I am thinking it would be roleplay for the player only or use a special zaz device that cannot be removed by the player but instead only unlocks with a key that only ysolda has. The zaz wrist devices restrict the player from opening doors so I might just use those and a collar and some ankle chains but the slavery stuff between ysolda and the player would have to be made by me and it would be hard to figure out how to restrict the player from leaving the cell as long as they are still her slave. 

 

I am trying to work out how that relationship would work and wether or not there should be optional choices for it being permanent. In the meantime I am still trying to figure out what mods I have installed are making rape sex a rank reducing thing still haven't fixed that yet.

 

Yeah if someone could help that would be great, I think I can manage snapping together a building in the CK but I was recently thinking how azidals quest works. Basically I would have to make a location that is already there but not useable yet somehow like a destroyed building with a name but I don't know if I can change the name of the location at a later stage in the mod or if it has to remain the same. So I'm not sure if I can call it "ruined house" at first before the player talks to ysolda and starts the quest and then rename it to "Ysolda's whore house" later on when she starts building it. I think I will have to make one name for it but more generic but still implies it was and could be again a whore house of some kind. Of course I just remembered that hearthfire has all the player houses disabled until the player buys the land and builds them so I could take a look at how hearthfire handles disabled or changed locations.

 

This won't be something I can work on right away I am thinking I will have some time later on or maybe the beginning of next month to start on it not sure yet. The thing I am terrible at is the dam scripting I HATE scripting it is such a dam pain. Even if you have it right the compiler still won't compile sometimes omg that shit is rage inducing sometimes makes me want to go all supermutant on my computer or something lol.

 

 

I am thinking of how ysolda approaches the player to start this quest, maybe she won't approach until after the player brings her a mammoth tusk.

 

Here are some options I am considering since I am gonna try building this around maria eden mod to some extent...

 

If the player is whoring for hulda at the bannered mare, ysolda eventually pays for some time with the player and after sex she asks the player if they would like to come work for her.

 

If the player is wearing slave gear from DD mods and is not enslaved by SD she would approach the player and if the player has immerslave mod installed and started off as an escaped slave she would have some dialogue about that or even if the player started out as a slave and was allowed to leave their owner but still has the collar on she could offer to buy the player from their owner and remove the collar. She would also offer to pay the player bounty if they chose one from the immerslave mod at start. This whole approach in the dialogue would be handled like she offers comfort to a slave that is scared of the world after escaping and looking for safety in something they know.

 

From the whoring and slave/escaped slave approach the player is asked to whore for ysolda and earn her enough money to get started with the first part of the whore house. After there is enough money ysolda tells the player to come back later and she will have more work for the player.

 

If the player is not enslaved, not locked down with DD and did not start as an escaped slave then ysolda simply asks the player for money to get started with a promise of a return on their investment later. After each part is build the player gets their money back with interest and then has the option to continue helping her by investing further or not helping she won't be mad about it or whatever player can always come back later and finish things up. Only after the final part is done will she initiate dialogue about whoring for her in the whore house.

 

How many mods did you made ?

What you plan is very complex... specially all the slavery options.

It's a huge project you start... maybe just creating the brothel and the quest line will be a good start for the beginning.

[Zor2k13]

Yeah figuring stuff out is one thing and actually doing it is another but even beth says that if you want to make a mod, you have to know everything you want to do first and plan it out or you will just end up running around in circles wasting time. The CK is very unforgiving if you don't do everything just right the first time there will be little consequences here and there later on that even TES5EDIT can't fix.

 

Sex in this game can already happen but story and writing are really rare for a beth game or a mod for a beth game. Hearing the same motions of dialogue from a mod which are short and very repetitive can grate on people real fast. By telling a story it makes enjoying the game and the mod possible and allows you to spread out the repetitive stuff so it doesn't get so bad.

 

I can tell you one thing about skyrim, it is very boring. This game is old and the quests are old and the power play is all dried up there is nothing left for the default player to enjoy. Sex mods and pervy mods and outfit mods are really the only thing keeping this game alive. Did that beyond skyrim mod come out yet? nope might as well be waiting on star citizen to get out of beta. Does endreal make any sense? nope it is just some slightly new places to go and new bugs with mods to fight with. I have never married any of the npcs in the game it was just too boring and time consuming and buggy to deal with. None of the npcs that are candidates for marriage interest me to the point where I want to in game marry them. There is no details or story or having kids or sex just a lame ass ceremony so whoever she is can go stir a pot in one of my player homes.

 

With sex mods and other mods from this site all that can change big time but this game is still an fps game trying to tell a really long story that forces you to 3rd person view a lot. This is the main failing of this game there are no personal camera scenes between the player and some npcs like ME games or witcher and it just feels like fps frustration or something.

 

The Osex mod is very interesting, if we can have dialogues with the same camera views that Osex uses or better then the game will get more personal and less fps then we can really enjoy it. To better define and separate the fps from the story stuff without annoying the player or hurry them up to some quest will bring this game back to life. I hope we get Osex to that point but it will take a lot of time.

[Delzaron]

Yeah figuring stuff out is one thing and actually doing it is another but even beth says that if you want to make a mod, you have to know everything you want to do first and plan it out or you will just end up running around in circles wasting time. The CK is very unforgiving if you don't do everything just right the first time there will be little consequences here and there later on that even TES5EDIT can't fix.

 

Sex in this game can already happen but story and writing are really rare for a beth game or a mod for a beth game. Hearing the same motions of dialogue from a mod which are short and very repetitive can grate on people real fast. By telling a story it makes enjoying the game and the mod possible and allows you to spread out the repetitive stuff so it doesn't get so bad.

 

I can tell you one thing about skyrim, it is very boring. This game is old and the quests are old and the power play is all dried up there is nothing left for the default player to enjoy. Sex mods and pervy mods and outfit mods are really the only thing keeping this game alive. Did that beyond skyrim mod come out yet? nope might as well be waiting on star citizen to get out of beta. Does endreal make any sense? nope it is just some slightly new places to go and new bugs with mods to fight with. I have never married any of the npcs in the game it was just too boring and time consuming and buggy to deal with. None of the npcs that are candidates for marriage interest me to the point where I want to in game marry them. There is no details or story or having kids or sex just a lame ass ceremony so whoever she is can go stir a pot in one of my player homes.

 

With sex mods and other mods from this site all that can change big time but this game is still an fps game trying to tell a really long story that forces you to 3rd person view a lot. This is the main failing of this game there are no personal camera scenes between the player and some npcs like ME games or witcher and it just feels like fps frustration or something.

 

The Osex mod is very interesting, if we can have dialogues with the same camera views that Osex uses or better then the game will get more personal and less fps then we can really enjoy it. To better define and separate the fps from the story stuff without annoying the player or hurry them up to some quest will bring this game back to life. I hope we get Osex to that point but it will take a lot of time.

 

C'mon, there are still mods on Skyrim... you should look that :

https://www.youtube.com/user/shinji72skyrim

Specially Enderal : this thing looks very great !

 

I also play and create sexlab mods to refresh skyrim : skyrim is an engine, buit you play other stories.

 

But onbly sex mods are boring too : we need nice stories to support them. Amourous adventures for example. It's why I create quest mods.

 

About the brothel, a nice thing would be that :

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/19305/?

 

A "just brothel/player whore/player slavery" is redondant on LL.... there is already Maria Eden for that...

Player as the first girl/pimp/brothel builder, that's new !

[Zor2k13]

Hehe shinji72 is funny I think he did some review of a girdle castle mod or something a while back near rorikstead.

 

I watched the video for endreal and it just turned me off to the mod immediately. The talky talky in the english trailer didn't make any sense it was jammed in there and played real fast trying to quickly explain something and it didn't make any sense. Some guy getting in some underwater capsule looking thing I just thought "bioshock" and I completely lost interest at that point. I can't stand bioshock it is just weird and boring the story doesn't make any sense. the character voices sound like somebody working in an office on a coffee break. I know they don't have money to spend on voices but this shows just how talented the voice artist industry really is. There will never be another casey kasem no way nobody could do shaggy voice like that and make listening to the radio sound so kewl:-)

 

I could never get into fallout 3 modding I couldn't even make it half way through the game because that sepia tone and how everything just looked so empty and boring. At least fallout 4 has some things going on and there are things to do in the game and the graphics don't suck etc.

 

I am waiting for Osex to get finishing sex moves without bugs so I can play amorous adventures with it.

 

I have aethersuite installed and want to make plans for that mod:-) I just wish I could find the sexy leather armor converted to CBBE with HDT so I can get rid of that terrible unp version. I have combined both follower reiko mods together and I want to take reiko to aethersuite and do some nasty things with her for a long time but need more hot asian girl npcs in there lol. There needs to be other npcs besides trolls from oblivion in aethersuite.

 

Things take time that is for sure.

 

 

[karlpaws]

Whiterun can be a busy place, mod wise. There are a couple mods that add a market around the front of the town, where the stables are. One adds a small inn out there too. To the east, between the city and river a lot of houses, castles, training houses and such have been added, so that area is probably out.  You might be able to put something in to the north, nearer the watch tower, or west looking out at the plains and giant camp.

 

There are also expanded Bannered Mare mods that make the inn much larger. If you could get permission to use one of the already existing mods and just work with Ysolda's AI package and build a quest on her, that might lessen your workload.

[FauxFurry]

Ysolda is a drug dealer not a brothel madame. That might be more up Belethor's alley. If he had a sister, he'd sell her in a second.

[Zor2k13]

Yeah thats what I was afraid of, I remember there was some mod that expanded the hold sizes or totally redid them I am wondering what the popularity of those mods currently is. Maria eden curently restricts whiterun if the player is sold off by simple slavery to maria eden. The front gate is locked and the npcs cannot enter or leave and a bunch of other stuff I don't know why the hell it works that way. Some ugly ass vampire guy owns the player just outside the stables at whiterun and the player has to run around trying to whore out for money but can't even talk and all they get now is I beg your pardon as a response when gagged:-(

 

 

[shidoni]

Why not add this in the idea tread ? ( wishing it would be pinned at the front and not somewhere between the fridge and the plains of oblivion)

[-alpha-]

Great idea... 

Perhaps a few points to consider (based on op)

 

 

Im guessing this is will be best done in the early part of a play through.

If it's done early it can be done like.

 

Player arrives in Whiterun and becomes friends with Ysolda.

Once you've completed her quest she approaches you about a new business and needs your help.

Rather than make the player pay for the building only to become a whore to earn money for Ysolda (dont see the ROI here)

It could do better to have Ysolda saying something along the lines of "To get the business started we need an investor."

Your job would then be to "persuade" a wealthy person to be this investor. (this solves the cash and sexytime requirements)

Once the investor invests, the building starts but soon runs out of cash.

Now Ysolda can give you options here, either milk the investor for more or find another investor.

Once the place is fully built, investors become VIP's and the player is then tasked with recruitment.

...

 

Or if to be played later in the game.

Player can simply then be approached as investor with Ysolda doing what you would have done in the above.

Ysolda will request more capital from you in order to complete the building by doing the naughty.

Once the place is built you will gain Partner/VIP status and will be the first one to try out the new recruits.

 

 

You could add darker themes in like drugs to keep recruits obedient.

Having Bela~whatverthor being a supplier of ass'ets.

 

 

[AsariX]

Ever noticed how Whiterun is actually terribly defended on the north-west side?

 

So, I'd suggest: add some ramparts or a wooden wall from the current wall below Dragonsreach, along the cliffside (not too close, there's a bandit camp in a cave below), and put a nice shack for Ysolda right next to Dragonsreach. Have the wooden wall/ramparts run all the way towards the ones near the citygate, and you'll have a nice annex to the city fortifications, which, realistically, would be used to garisson visiting armies, but in our case, would be a forgotten disused corner for Ysolda to set up shop. And in case there ever happens to be a visiting army, then Ysolda will have lots of customers conveniently right outside her doorsteps.

 

Do not make a hole in the citywall to reach this place, though, simply make a trail from the citygates to this area.

 

http://i.imgur.com/AkUqtCJ.jpg

[Zor2k13]

Thanks for the posts everyone I haven't forgot about this idea just trying to find the time to work on it and also giving the major mods time to update and get along with each other.

 

@alpha

 

Well the devil is always in the details, I am thinking that ysolda has some dialogue that explains why the play has to be a whore and maybe ysolda is a very manipulative business lady:-) She gives some drama story about how she just can't get started around here etc and from there it goes into the can you help me/I like you a lot territory maybe haven't worked it out yet. I also might have something where poor npcs can ask the player to whore out for them to help them earn money and maybe even change the poor npc to average npc or just make new beggar npcs that the player can "help" to be normal or not poor anymore so they just go away after a while or go live somewhere etc. after the player earns them enough money.

[Nickolos1818]

Could change it to where Belethor offers Ysolda the cash to start up the business but asks for certain " requirements " to be met.  Therefore Ysolda can keep here base game morality due to Belethor actually being the one setting it up to be a whore house.