I'm slowly dying

Elgate · August 6, 2016

I think I may have some trouble with my mods. My character maximum health is consistently lowering. I am literally dying from it.

Yesterday, I was at 295 without being horny (boost of 100)

and now on one of my save I am at 195 while horny

and on my most recent save I am at 23 without horny.

It's impossible to play, I have a buff from Soul gem Oven that increase my health that reset every 20 sec. Thus, every 20 secs, my character fall because my maximum health get below 0.

Here's the load order

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
Falskaar.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
hdtHighHeel.esm
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm
Heels Sound.esm
Inn Girls Resources.esm
notice board.esp
Gray Fox Cowl.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
SkyUI.esp
Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
Dead Body Collision.esp
Paralyze.esp
TradeBarter.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp
SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp
SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp
SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
ELE_Legendary_Fs_Wt_Lite.esp
Moss Rocks.esp
Moss Rocks_DB.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
Beards.esp
Brows.esp
ORM-Arvak.esp
ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
Elemental Staves.esp
DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
Soul Gems Differ - NWS.esp
AOS.esp
FNISSexyMove.esp
Invisibility Eyes Fix.esp
AOS2_DSI Patch.esp
AOS2_EBT Patch.esp
AOS2_IWIE Patch.esp
IHSS.esp
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
3DNPC.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.esp
Undeath.esp
imp_helm_legend.esp
SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
Immersive Wenches.esp
SexLab-Stories.esp
Beasts of Tamriel.esp
Point The Way.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp
AOS2_WAF Patch.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp
SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
Inigo.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
buildablehouse.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp
Vile Art of Necromancy.esp
HearthfireChimneys.esp
Shout Like a Virgin.esp
SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
Devious Deviants.esp
UIExtensions.esp
GetStripped.esp
ScopedBows.esp
GrandMaster.esp
Mysticism.esp
SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp
PilgrimsDelight.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
Follower Neisa.esp
KinkyKaren.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
SexLab_Solutions.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
KS Hairdos - HDT.esp
SlaveTats.esp
FNIS.esp
RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
FtM_3 - OBIS + CCOR.esp
FtM_3 - OBIS.esp
FtM_3.esp
FtM_3 - CCOR.esp
Luxury Collection.esp
Luxury Collection Vendor.esp
Warglaive of Azzinoth.esp
bwitch.esp
Follower Onean.esp
DibellanDefender.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
SLALAnimObj.esp
SED7-CBBE3-BM_ALLin1-EDITION.esp
SED7-CBBE3-BM_GOLDEDITION_NipplePiercing_Rings.esp
SED7-CBBE3-BM_SILVEREDITION_NipplePiercing_Rings.esp
SED7-CBBE3-BM_UNIEDITION_Nipplewand.esp
SED7-CBBE3_GOLDEDITION_Barbell.esp
SED7-CBBE3_GOLDEDITION_femaleLabiaPiercings.esp
SED7-CBBE3_SILVEREDITION_femaleLabiaPiercings.esp
SED7-CBBE3_UNIEDITIONfemaleNipplePiercing_SwordNShield.esp
sextoys-calyps-2.esp
HDT Piercingsets.esp
ResplendentArmor.esp
Unlimited Training.esp
Cassandra Frost Witch.esp
SoulGemMerging.esp
Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
Jugs.esp
dcc-dm2.esp
ScopedBows_ArrowTweaks.esp
ScopedBows_EagleEyeTweak.esp
BlanketScarf.esp
ShadowSpellPackage.esp
orc-female-idle-fix.esp
SLA Monitor Widget.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
ccas_starts.esp

The two mods I was expecting to have an impact (SGO and Dibellan defender) were already tested. I removed Dibellan Defender, but I didn't get my health back, and did the same to SGO (using the proper way to uninstall it with the mod menu). The only mod I installed recently were Display model, SLA monitor and Kinky karen, but I don't think any of these have an impact on my health.

spoonsinger · August 6, 2016

You could try 'player.setav health <a number you think you should have>' at the console and see if it decreases after that. (Mind removing stuff mid game is never a good idea regardless of what the 'them' say).

August 6, 2016

Go in third person view.

open the console.

Click on your character, be sure you have the Shift key pressed, and go on Active Magic Effects.

Find the ones that are applied to your character.

If you spot one that can be the culprit, find it using the "help" command in the console, and then find which mod is adding it.

Elgate · August 6, 2016

You could try 'player.setav health <a number you think you should have>' at the console and see if it decreases after that. (Mind removing stuff mid game is never a good idea regardless of what the 'them' say).

I used the command to set my health to 100. I end up with 124 from 22 It seems there is no actual magical effect ongoing. My base health is just lower for some reason. I'll try to take back an older save and see if I can work my way back to that point. After a quick check, I should have 260 base HP. I set up my health, and I'll see how it goes.

Go in third person view.

open the console.

Click on your character, be sure you have the Shift key pressed, and go on Active Magic Effects.

Find the ones that are applied to your character.

If you spot one that can be the culprit, find it using the "help" command in the console, and then find which mod is adding it.

Already did that. There is absolutely no ongoing effect (eve hidden) that has a negative value, much less a value big enough to reach 200 (The amount of Hp I should have at least)

August 6, 2016

Then probably you have a running script on the player (or on an Alias attached to the player) that is causing that.

Just a dumb question. Is your character a Vampire at 4th level, and you are going around with the sun-light?

spoonsinger · August 6, 2016

You could try 'player.setav health <a number you think you should have>' at the console and see if it decreases after that. (Mind removing stuff mid game is never a good idea regardless of what the 'them' say).

I used the command to set my health to 100. I end up with 124 from 22 It seems there is no actual magical effect ongoing. My base health is just lower for some reason. I'll try to take back an older save and see if I can work my way back to that point. After a quick check, I should have 260 base HP. I set up my health, and I'll see how it goes.

Go in third person view.

open the console.

Click on your character, be sure you have the Shift key pressed, and go on Active Magic Effects.

Find the ones that are applied to your character.

If you spot one that can be the culprit, find it using the "help" command in the console, and then find which mod is adding it.

Already did that. There is absolutely no ongoing effect (eve hidden) that has a negative value, much less a value big enough to reach 200 (The amount of Hp I should have at least)

Umm, ok this is a tedious suggestion and I don't know how much you know about scripting or programming in general. But as you don't have a constant magical effect doing this, it would suggest a script is doing it. So you could use 'grep' or a similar text search function on all your script source files and look for 'health'. Then see if any of the popped up code would do the thing you are experiencing. (Mind this won't be much use if the original modders provided the .pex files but no script files).

Elgate · August 7, 2016

Then probably you have a running script on the player (or on an Alias attached to the player) that is causing that.

Just a dumb question. Is your character a Vampire at 4th level, and you are going around with the sun-light?

I once got sanginare vampiris but I used a potion of cure disease (still told me once that I felt thirsty before I used it) You're making me doubt. I'll double check.

You could try 'player.setav health <a number you think you should have>' at the console and see if it decreases after that. (Mind removing stuff mid game is never a good idea regardless of what the 'them' say).

I used the command to set my health to 100. I end up with 124 from 22 It seems there is no actual magical effect ongoing. My base health is just lower for some reason. I'll try to take back an older save and see if I can work my way back to that point. After a quick check, I should have 260 base HP. I set up my health, and I'll see how it goes.

Go in third person view.

open the console.

Click on your character, be sure you have the Shift key pressed, and go on Active Magic Effects.

Find the ones that are applied to your character.

If you spot one that can be the culprit, find it using the "help" command in the console, and then find which mod is adding it.

Already did that. There is absolutely no ongoing effect (eve hidden) that has a negative value, much less a value big enough to reach 200 (The amount of Hp I should have at least)

Umm, ok this is a tedious suggestion and I don't know how much you know about scripting or programming in general. But as you don't have a constant magical effect doing this, it would suggest a script is doing it. So you could use 'grep' or a similar text search function on all your script source files and look for 'health'. Then see if any of the popped up code would do the thing you are experiencing. (Mind this won't be much use if the original modders provided the .pex files but no script files).

I have never used GREP nor do I know how to access the script files. But I'm confident I could learn it. I'll see what I can find on the subject. Do you know any good tutorial by any chance?

August 7, 2016

I have never used GREP nor do I know how to access the script files. But I'm confident I could learn it. I'll see what I can find on the subject. Do you know any good tutorial by any chance?

Use any tool that allows to "find in files".

Notepad++ has this option by default.

Elgate · August 7, 2016

I have never used GREP nor do I know how to access the script files. But I'm confident I could learn it. I'll see what I can find on the subject. Do you know any good tutorial by any chance?

Use any tool that allows to "find in files".

Notepad++ has this option by default.

Really? Shouldn't be difficult then. I'll check if I can see anything. By the way, what's the extension of the script? And in what folder are they usually stored? "[skyrim repository]/data/script" ? what the usual path from the data folder.

Edit: I think I found the repositor name. I checked in SGO, but the file are all *.pex I guess that's the righ extension. The file aren't easy to read, but I found an occurence of "GetBaseActorValue [NUL][ACK] Health [NUL][DC1] RestoreActorValue [NUL][bEL] Stamina"

Not very clear, but it seems this one gets the value, but I don't see it modifying it.

Edit2: Opened notepad++, Search->search in file-> filter: *.pex ->word to search: health

Am I doing it the right way? 232 hits. Already collapsed the part about mods I am not currently using.

*myuhinny* · August 7, 2016

Have you tried checking and seeing if it's devious devices. I know I have seen people have problems before. There was one last night after you posted yours and it turned out to be caused by devious devices. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/65386-healh-value-bug/

Have you tried starting a new game to see if it's still present in your new game. If it's gone then you know something in your save got borked if it's still there in a new game then you will know that it is a mod causing it. Have you also tried making a copy of your save file and then running the save file through a save cleaner to see if there are any leftover scripts in your save file causing the problem.

August 7, 2016

Really? Shouldn't be difficult then. I'll check if I can see anything. By the way, what's the extension of the script? And in what folder are they usually stored? "[skyrim repository]/data/script" ? what the usual path from the data folder.

Edit: I think I found the repositor name. I checked in SGO, but the file are all *.pex I guess that's the righ extension. The file aren't easy to read, but I found an occurence of "GetBaseActorValue [NUL][ACK] Health [NUL][DC1] RestoreActorValue [NUL][bEL] Stamina"

Not very clear, but it seems this one gets the value, but I don't see it modifying it.

Edit2: Opened notepad++, Search->search in file-> filter: *.pex ->word to search: health

Am I doing it the right way? 232 hits. Already collapsed the part about mods I am not currently using.

The script sources have extension .psc. Checking the .pex files (that are the compiled scripts) is useless.

The scripts are stored in [skyrim install folder]\Data\Scripts\Source\

And, no, you are not doing it the right way because you are searching in the compiled scripts. You should search in the source files.

If you have Notepad++, just open the search tool, click on the third tab (Search in files), then use as search work "health" (including the double quotes before and after), set the search directory to be the one where the source files are ([skyrim install folder]\Data\Scripts\Source\) and maybe also set a file filter like *.psc

Elgate · August 7, 2016

Thanks for the information.

Here's a list of the mods I found that have the word "health" clearly stated in their script (found with Notepad++ search in files function)

This list has been cleared with only mods I am actively using. Unused mods (unchecked mods in mod organizer) are already cleaned

Format: [modName];[scriptName](nbOfHits);[nextScriptName](nbOfHits);...

CCAS(content consumer alternate start); ccas_QF_ccas_handler_06005901.pex (7 hits); ccas_TIF__0713FECC.pex (1 hit); ccas_TIF__0720A966.pex (1 hit)

DeviousDevicesIntegration; zadConfig.pex (5 hits); zadEventHealth.pex (4 hits)zadLibs.pex (4 hits)

Deviously Cursed Loot; dcur_clocktickRefScript.pex (4 hits); dcur_clocktickScript.pex (1 hit); dcur_cursedCollarQuestScript.pex (2 hits); dcur_cursedCollarScript.pex (2 hits); dcur_gagtalkFailGiveHealPotion.pex (6 hits); dcur_library.pex (5 hits); dcur_mcmconfig.pex (6 hits); dcur_SashaQuestScript.pex (3 hits); dcur_shockbootsquestscript.pex (5 hits); dcur_clocktickRefScript.pex (4 hits)

Grandmaster - True Unarmed and Unarmored Combat; GM_Global.pex (3 hits); GM_GlobalFuncs.pex (8 hits); GM_UnarmedScript.pex (1 hit); GM_StaticVariables.pex (5 hits); GM_Variables.pex (4 hits); ObjectReference.pex (1 hit)

Mysticism - The Lost Art; lostMainQuestScript.pex (5 hits); lostMCMQuestScript.pex (1 hit)

SexlabFramework v1.61b FULL; GNEsslActorAlias.pex (2 hits); sslActorAlias.pex (2 hits); sslActorLibrary.pex (1 hit); slTroubleshoot.pex (2 hits)

Shout Like a Virgin V1.81; VirginDragonTransformation.pex (1 hit);

Skyrim Tanker Neisa; NeisaRestoreScript.pex (1 hit)

soulgem oven; dcc_sgo_EffectSexualHealing_Main.pex (1 hit); dcc_sgo_QuestController.pex (2 hits); dcc_sgo_QuestMenu.pex (1 hit)

Standalone Follower Onean; OneanSmallFight.pex (3 hits)

ZaZAnimationPack v0611 Patch; zbfSlaveActions.pex (3 hits)

ZazAnimationPack v61; zbfSlaveActions.pex (3 hits); zbfUtil.pex (1 hit)

So, the highest probability is cursed loot (highest amount of hit). Need more precise research, but here's the gist of it. The problem is probably in one of them.

Really? Shouldn't be difficult then. I'll check if I can see anything. By the way, what's the extension of the script? And in what folder are they usually stored? "[skyrim repository]/data/script" ? what the usual path from the data folder.

Edit: I think I found the repositor name. I checked in SGO, but the file are all *.pex I guess that's the righ extension. The file aren't easy to read, but I found an occurence of "GetBaseActorValue [NUL][ACK] Health [NUL][DC1] RestoreActorValue [NUL][bEL] Stamina"

Not very clear, but it seems this one gets the value, but I don't see it modifying it.

Edit2: Opened notepad++, Search->search in file-> filter: *.pex ->word to search: health

Am I doing it the right way? 232 hits. Already collapsed the part about mods I am not currently using.

The script sources have extension .psc. Checking the .pex files (that are the compiled scripts) is useless.

The scripts are stored in [skyrim install folder]\Data\Scripts\Source\

And, no, you are not doing it the right way because you are searching in the compiled scripts. You should search in the source files.

If you have Notepad++, just open the search tool, click on the third tab (Search in files), then use as search work "health" (including the double quotes before and after), set the search directory to be the one where the source files are ([skyrim install folder]\Data\Scripts\Source\) and maybe also set a file filter like *.psc

You can still find occurence of health on the compiled script. Not everything though, but It still alow to know if these mod use that information.

Edit: Ok after trying with your method, CCAS seems to have an effect to damage the actor value health, but nothing to restore it.

*TDA* · August 7, 2016

maybe this is Marked for Death bug...

I had companions that imposed at me a huge reduction of the protection (accidentally - several times in the battle ~ -4000).

Elgate · August 7, 2016

maybe this is Marked for Death bug...

I had companions that imposed at me a huge reduction of the protection (accidentally - several times in the battle ~ -4000).

None of my companion are using shouts. Also, If I'm right, only the Armor penalty is permanent. Not the health loss.

August 7, 2016

You can still find occurence of health on the compiled script. Not everything though, but It still alow to know if these mod use that information.

Edit: Ok after trying with your method, CCAS seems to have an effect to damage the actor value health, but nothing to restore it.

To have a more limited result, you may want to search for:

SetActorValue("health"

and

SetAV("health"

Be sure you do NOT close the parenthesis in the search string.

This because "health", in case it is just read, it is not important.

Elgate · August 7, 2016

You can still find occurence of health on the compiled script. Not everything though, but It still alow to know if these mod use that information.

Edit: Ok after trying with your method, CCAS seems to have an effect to damage the actor value health, but nothing to restore it.

To have a more limited result, you may want to search for:

SetActorValue("health"

and

SetAV("health"

Be sure you do NOT close the parenthesis in the search string.

This because "health", in case it is just read, it is not important.

Too limited result. The only mod that have this statement is better vampire. I'm not using it at the moment.

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