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Why does the sun hurts vampire in the elder scrolls universe? According to the lore, the "sun" is just a hole punched through Mundas when he escape the plane. Stars are made when lesser daedea did the same thing. So following that logic, wouldn't vampire still get burn during the night? Maybe even more so, because there are thousands of stars during the night compare to one sun during the day. [O_o] Just curious.

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Could just be a matter of magnitude.  Stars don't exactly cast a lot of light, but Magnus proper bathes the world in enough light to illuminate everything like our sun does.  I imagine it's like the difference between walking into a humid room and being blasted by a jet of water from a fire hose.

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Vampires have a vurnelability to the pure energies of Aetherius. Since Magnus (the Sun) is the strongest source, exposure to it leaves them the most vulnerable.

 

In short - vampires are incapable of absorbing magicka directly from the "Sun" and the energy sticks to their skin and decays into heat energy.

This dries their skin up and then causes it to ignite, but it can be hindered by hydrating themselves by drinking blood.

 

This is more of a theory than fact. TES lore doesnt really state why exactly is that.

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Heh, the more important question is why do they sleep in coffins instead of comfy beds/bedrolls...

 

The latest coffins come with a built-in LCD tv, wi-fi, a portable refrigerator, and magic fingers, electric massage pads.

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So I'm guessing they still get hurt during the night? If what Seina said is correct, then they don't really to drink blood unless they expose themselves to Aetherius's energy? Explain why Valerica didn't die after all those years without blood in Soul Cairn.

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So I'm guessing they still get hurt during the night? If what Seina said is correct, then they don't really to drink blood unless they expose themselves to Aetherius's energy? Explain why Valerica didn't die after all those years without blood in Soul Cairn.

 

If you mean that they get hurt during night because stars shine than no.

Magnus is very different from other "stars".

All the planets/moons are the physical bodies of various gods or some sort of alternate plane of Oblivion.

 

"The stars are the bridges to Aetherius, the magic plane. They are perceived as holes on the inside surface of space. Because they are on the inside of a sphere, all stars are equidistant from Nirn. Larger stars, therefore, are not closer to the mortal plane, they are just larger tears in Oblivion. The largest tear in Oblivion is Magnus, the sun."

More on this HERE.

 

Aetherius is different plane. Its where Divines originate from.

Soul Cairn is a plain of oblivion and thats why Aetherius energy wasnt present there.

 

Purebred vampires are made by being raped by Molag Bal and on brink of death they are brought back as a vampires.

They are undead creatures and thats why they are cursed by divines kind of automatically.

 

Vampires require blood, though not to sustain their existence.

Blood is rich in magicka and life energy, and allows them to maintain a balance of mortal form while suppressing many of their powers.

In the absence of blood, they revert to their more "cursed" form and gaining both power and new weaknesses.

 

There is also a theory about vampires being a soul-trapped beings with their bodies used in place of soul gems.

 

 

Heh, the more important question is why do they sleep in coffins instead of comfy beds/bedrolls...

 

Its just propably taken from our folklore to give them more vampiric vibe.

They are undead and its obvious most vampires are proud of it.

True Blood vampires come to mind as ones being very sentimental and kind of silly about it.

Not totally sure, but I think that a famous pair from HalfMoon Mill - Hern and Hert dont have coffins, example that they dont need it.

 

And sense of comfort might be kind of lost to them as undead.

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"Blood is rich in magicka and life energy, and allows them to maintain a balance of mortal form while suppressing many of their powers.

In the absence of blood, they revert to their more "cursed" form and gaining both power and new weaknesses."

So vanilla vampire was correct after all, thought that was a bug :o

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There is a difference between scientific fact and lore/mythology even in TES. Obviously there is a sun in Tamriel as well are there are moons. What you say about the sun being just a hole, that's just a myth, is like in our real world there are different origins for the creations of things in different mythologies.

 

Your original question is similar to asking "Why do people have to go to a hospital to deliver their babies when the stork can just come to their house?"

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There is a difference between scientific fact and lore/mythology even in TES. Obviously there is a sun in Tamriel as well are there are moons. What you say about the sun being just a hole, that's just a myth, is like in our real world there are different origins for the creations of things in different mythologies.

 

Your original question is similar to asking "Why do people have to go to a hospital to deliver their babies when the stork can just come to their house?"

 

"What you say about the sun being just a hole, that's just a myth, is like in our real world there are different origins for the creations of things in different mythologies."

 

Umm, as much as I hate the arse candy movie called "Interstellar", the only thing that actually made sense and which was actually articulated quite well by the person who described it, (because, lets face it, everybody else either mumbled their lines or was shrew throughout the film), was how a multi dimensional object, (in that case a worm hole),  is represented in a three dimensional space. Not really a great step to imagine the Skyrim sun/hole being a similar artifact in the planes which envelope the Tamriel space giving a similar representation.

 

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There is a difference between scientific fact and lore/mythology even in TES. Obviously there is a sun in Tamriel as well are there are moons. What you say about the sun being just a hole, that's just a myth, is like in our real world there are different origins for the creations of things in different mythologies.

 

Your original question is similar to asking "Why do people have to go to a hospital to deliver their babies when the stork can just come to their house?"

 

"What you say about the sun being just a hole, that's just a myth, is like in our real world there are different origins for the creations of things in different mythologies."

 

Umm, as much as I hate the arse candy movie called "Interstellar", the only thing that actually made sense and which was actually articulated quite well by the person who described it, (because, lets face it, everybody else either mumbled their lines or was shrew throughout the film), was how a multi dimensional object, (in that case a worm hole),  is represented in a three dimensional space. Not really a great step to imagine the Skyrim sun/hole being a similar artifact in the planes which envelope the Tamriel space giving a similar representation.

 

 

 

I haven't seen that movie, but a sun is a sun.

 

If you believe that story be my guest, it's just like religion in actual life, you can't change people's opinion.

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There is a difference between scientific fact and lore/mythology even in TES. Obviously there is a sun in Tamriel as well are there are moons. What you say about the sun being just a hole, that's just a myth, is like in our real world there are different origins for the creations of things in different mythologies.

 

Your original question is similar to asking "Why do people have to go to a hospital to deliver their babies when the stork can just come to their house?"

 

"What you say about the sun being just a hole, that's just a myth, is like in our real world there are different origins for the creations of things in different mythologies."

 

Umm, as much as I hate the arse candy movie called "Interstellar", the only thing that actually made sense and which was actually articulated quite well by the person who described it, (because, lets face it, everybody else either mumbled their lines or was shrew throughout the film), was how a multi dimensional object, (in that case a worm hole),  is represented in a three dimensional space. Not really a great step to imagine the Skyrim sun/hole being a similar artifact in the planes which envelope the Tamriel space giving a similar representation.

 

 

 

I haven't seen that movie, but a sun is a sun.

 

If you believe that story be my guest, it's just like religion in actual life, you can't change people's opinion.

 

 

Re:- I haven't seen that movie

 

"You haven't missed much"

 

Re: - "but a sun is a sun."

 

Err, no the sun isn't the "Sun", (i.e. a big body body of burning hydrogen and helium), in Skyrim/Tamriel, it's a hole in a multi dimensional space. Not religion in any way, but conceivable within the narrative and somewhat backed by current scientific theory on such things.

 

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Re:- I haven't seen that movie

 

"You haven't missed much"

 

Re: - "but a sun is a sun."

 

Err, no the sun isn't the "Sun", (i.e. a big body body of burning hydrogen and helium), in Skyrim/Tamriel, it's a hole in a multi planular space. Not religion in any way, but conceivable within the narrative and somewhat backed by current scientific theory on such things.

 

 

I'm not a scholar of Tamrielic lore, I just tell it like I see it, I never read the lore outside the game because all "sounds like hogwash to me".

 

What I get out of the game is Tamriel is a continent on a planet that has a sun and two moons.

It's a normal sun that casts normal shadows and emits heat and light that lets plants grow. Also if you look at the night sky in the unmodded games you can see constellations and other galaxies. Constellations are even part of the gameplay (eg. the apprentice, the lover) also there is a Aurora in skyrim and that is caused by the sun on a planet, I'm pretty sure it can't happen in a whole.

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Re:- I haven't seen that movie

 

"You haven't missed much"

 

Re: - "but a sun is a sun."

 

Err, no the sun isn't the "Sun", (i.e. a big body body of burning hydrogen and helium), in Skyrim/Tamriel, it's a hole in a multi planular space. Not religion in any way, but conceivable within the narrative and somewhat backed by current scientific theory on such things.

 

 

I'm not a scholar of Tamrielic lore, I just tell it like I see it, I never read the lore outside the game because all "sounds like hogwash to me".

 

What I get out of the game is Tamriel is a continent on a planet that has a sun and two moons.

It's a normal sun that casts normal shadows and emits heat and light that lets plants grow. Also if you look at the night sky in the unmodded games you can see constellations and other galaxies. Constellations are even part of the gameplay (eg. the apprentice, the lover) also there is a Aurora in skyrim and that is caused by the sun on a planet, I'm pretty sure it can't happen in a whole.

 

 

Re: - "I'm not a scholar of Tamrielic lore, I just tell it like I see it, I never read the lore outside the game because all "sounds like hogwash to me""

 

Indeed.

 

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I'm not a scholar of Tamrielic lore, I just tell it like I see it, I never read the lore outside the game because all "sounds like hogwash to me".

 

 

Why are you arguing when you know you have inferior knowledge?

 

Know this, the "myths" in The Elder Scrolls are not myths but HISTORY.

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I'm not a scholar of Tamrielic lore, I just tell it like I see it, I never read the lore outside the game because all "sounds like hogwash to me".

 

 

Why are you arguing when you know you have inferior knowledge?

 

Know this, the "myths" in The Elder Scrolls are not myths but HISTORY.

 

 

 

I'm not arguing I was just pointing to the friggin' huge elephant in the room.

 

If you don't have the common sense to differentiate history from myth, even in the game, you really shouldn't be arguing with nobody about anything.

Even in the game there are books that are works of fiction and others are actual scientific books, other books claim to be based on fact but are actual lies, or conjecture, the game counts on the player to have a decent amount of common sense to know the difference.

 

You are the reason games are continuously getting dumbed-down these days.

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I'm not a scholar of Tamrielic lore, I just tell it like I see it, I never read the lore outside the game because all "sounds like hogwash to me".

 

 

Why are you arguing when you know you have inferior knowledge?

 

Know this, the "myths" in The Elder Scrolls are not myths but HISTORY.

 

 

 

I'm not arguing I was just pointing to the friggin' huge elephant in the room.

 

If you don't have the common sense to differentiate history from myth, even in the game, you really shouldn't be arguing with nobody about anything.

Even in the game there are books that are works of fiction and others are actual scientific books, other books claim to be based on fact but are actual lies, or conjecture, the game counts on the player to have a decent amount of common sense to know the difference.

 

You are the reason games are continuously getting dumbed-down these days.

 

 

Really? I think I should kill myself if I am the cause of every bad happening in this world.(furk ou)

Nice C0DA you have anyway.

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