QuiteTheTail Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 I have a full OS reinstall planned for my PC. What's the best Windows OS version for an aspiring Oblivion (and probably Skyrim, not for now though) modder? I'm talking about stability, performance, and possibly backward compatibility with older hardware and software. As for the version, 32 or 64 bit? My hardware is rather aged, and includes a cheap Asrock Motherboard (AMD2+/AMD3 Ready) with integrated graphic card. The processor is an Athlon Phenom II X4 2.6 GHz.
Guest Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 64 bits for sure. I use Win 7 on a laptop and Win 10 for my real PC. I like Win 10 more. I had no problems with drivers or software compatibility (about 1 year old PC.) For software/games, if they were working with Win 7 then they will be working with Win 10. If they had problems working with Win 7, then probably they will NOT work on Win 10. Skyrim works just fine on Win 10 64 bits. I have no idea about Oblivion.
bjornk Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 32-bit OS for 4GB or less RAM, otherwise 64-bit. I'd suggest either Windows 7 or 8.1, if you have any concerns about privacy and control.
QuiteTheTail Posted September 3, 2015 Author Posted September 3, 2015 64 bits for sure. I use Win 7 on a laptop and Win 10 for my real PC. I like Win 10 more. I had no problems with drivers or software compatibility (about 1 year old PC.) For software/games, if they were working with Win 7 then they will be working with Win 10. If they had problems working with Win 7, then probably they will NOT work on Win 10. Skyrim works just fine on Win 10 64 bits. I have no idea about Oblivion. 32-bit OS for 4GB or less RAM, otherwise 64-bit. I'd suggest either Windows 7 or 8.1, if you have any concerns about privacy and control. I'll keep both recommendations in mind when it'll be time to make a choice. Thank you. I will be checking the topic regularly, in case anyone else feels like adding suggestions. P.S. RAM is 4 GB now, but I can upgrade to 8 GB.
aragonit Posted September 22, 2015 Posted September 22, 2015 win7 64bit is a good choice for an outdated system I have an old XPS M1330 Notebook I still use and win7 runs nicely on it.
QuiteTheTail Posted September 23, 2015 Author Posted September 23, 2015 win7 64bit is a good choice for an outdated system I have an old XPS M1330 Notebook I still use and win7 runs nicely on it. Good point, thanks.
AnnaFly Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 Greetings. Hi " Quiet " The Tail ... sorry i didn't saw your topic. Older " machine " or not i think your AMD is still " stronger " enough to run Oblivion ( if Oblivion works, Skyrim will work too , probably much better depends of your settings ... But seriously " with an Integrated Graphic GPU " ... tell me it's not true , that's not something to play with . Try to find an older Graphic card ( 8800 GT minimum , i still use 3 of them without problem in Skyrim and Oblivion n, of course i have better ... but i like these one very much ) . Le "marché d'occasion " , tu connais ? Il n'y a pas de " foire informatiques " dans ton pays ...? Si tu préfère, il y a aussi d'excellentes AMD/ATI vendues aujourd'hui à de "vils prix" ... tout dépend des ports de ta carte mère Asrock , quel modèle en fait , précisément , N° de REVision compris ? Ne t'ai-je pas déjà parlé de Windows7 ...? Malheureusement son support s'arrêtera en 2020 ... et Microsoft commercialise un nouvel OS tous les trois ans ( c'est sa "politique" de développement ... hélàs ) ... donc Windows7 c'est très bien ( et surtout si tu peux utiliser le XP mode - pour compatibilité avec d'anciens programmes - mais seulemnt en version OEM tu est limité par la durée de vie de ta carte-mère surtout ... et en version " plein droits" , c'est beaucoup trop cher à l'heure qu'il est pour un système d'exploitation qui va être abandonné - les " lâches " ... abandonner leurs "enfants " de cette façon ! ... ;°) ... de plus en plus . De plus les versions " Pro et "Intégrales" ( pour le XP mode ) sont très difficiles à trouver de nos jours .. et ce depuis déjà longtemps. Un conseil : commence déjà par acheter un autre disque dur ... et là-dessus essaye soit W7 ( tu peux le télécharger , et tu as 1 mois entier pour le "tester" , pas besoin de lé de license, tu " zappes " simplement l'introduction de celle-ci lorsu'il t'est demandé de l'introduire ... et l'installation se poursuit. Ne me dis pas que tu ne connaîs personne qui puisse te prêter ses support d'installation ( non OEM evidement ) ? Ensuite tu , choisis ; comme moi dual-boots ( ou multi-boots ) , ou tu déconnecte le disque avec ton OS actuel et tu fait une nouvelle installation sur le nouveau disque. Dans ce dernier cas, utilise ton OS actuel pour partitionner le nouveau disque d'abord ( pas nécessaire de " formater " jute de céer tes partitions .... car Windows7 est très "restrictif " de ce point fde vue et beaucoup moins souple que ce bon viel XP par exemple ou même Xindows 98 SE ... ;°) Pour Windows10 , je ne sais pas ( encore ...) : j'ai reçu hier un avis de Microsoft me disant que W10 est prêt à être installé ... mais moi , j'ai besoin d'une compatibilité avec d'anciens programmes XP ... et là ; je crains que cela n'ira pas du tout ... puisque déjà certains ne vont pas sous W7 correctement ( W7 32 ou 64 bits , c'est pareail, ils ne vont pas mieux ) . De plus, je n'ai pas ton problème de "performances " , plus de "notebook / laptop " ( l'horreur) , non plus, et j'ai d'autres machines en cas de "manque" de puissance ( ce qui n'est pas encore arrivé ) . Trois ou quatre de mes machine datent de 2008 ... sans problèmes , mais il est vrai que certaines resten tplus de six mois sans fonctionner... car je n'en ai pas besoin , donc elles sont " vieilles" mais peu usées ... "elles ne font pas leurs âges " ... ;°) ... çà " bounce " encore ferme là-dedans ...! ;°) ... et pas un "Vertical Soft Bounce " uniquement .... Cheers.
gregathit Posted October 7, 2015 Posted October 7, 2015 I'm using 8.1 and I have zero complaints. I haven't made a move to 10, and probably won't until I get a new rig. I'm not keen on reinstalling shit when I have everything working just right at the movement. Whatever upgrade features that 10 may have, it just isn't worth me taking my precious little amount of free time for modding and gaming and spend it installing an OS and my programs again. Totally not worth it to me. Besides, I've yet to encounter anything my rig and 8.1 can't handle.......and being as I am a grumpy old dog: "if it ain't broke, don't fuck with it."
QuiteTheTail Posted October 9, 2015 Author Posted October 9, 2015 I'm using 8.1 and I have zero complaints. I haven't made a move to 10, and probably won't until I get a new rig. I'm not keen on reinstalling shit when I have everything working just right at the movement. Whatever upgrade features that 10 may have, it just isn't worth me taking my precious little amount of free time for modding and gaming and spend it installing an OS and my programs again. Totally not worth it to me. Besides, I've yet to encounter anything my rig and 8.1 can't handle.......and being as I am a grumpy old dog: "if it ain't broke, don't fuck with it." Greetings. Hi " Quiet " The Tail ... sorry i didn't saw your topic. Older " machine " or not i think your AMD is still " stronger " enough to run Oblivion ( if Oblivion works, Skyrim will work too , probably much better depends of your settings ... But seriously " with an Integrated Graphic GPU " ... tell me it's not true , that's not something to play with . [...] ... çà " bounce " encore ferme là-dedans ...! ;°) ... et pas un "Vertical Soft Bounce " uniquement .... Cheers. Thank you guys. I'm taking a little bit more time to decide (some say I take too much time to decide, in many contexts) but in the end my choice will be 8.1, I think. An OEM version or a full paid version of Win7 at his end-of life as a product, with no more support, is all but appealing. I should also buy some some new hardware, as AF suggested. I play at ridiculously low fps, the stuttering gives me sickness, at times... LAPF animations run smoothly, though @ AnnaFly "... çà " bounce " encore ferme là-dedans ...! " I understand it has to to with your work with Lovender's armor and "vertical" Moving Breast, but really is the only part of your text I wasn't able to understand. The French I learned at school is not exactly "top of the notch".
Yotix Posted October 9, 2015 Posted October 9, 2015 Don't panic about Windows 7 "end of mainstream support". MS stopped adding new features to Windows 7 in January 2015, but will be delivering security-relevant patches for Windows 7 until January 2020. ... so I just bought another copy of Windows 7 64bit, simply because I prefer the old UI and hate the Microsoft Account (and Microsoft Support, the arrogant bunch of incompetent pricks that will lock your MS account and blackmail you into giving them your credit card number. Happened to me on Xbox.) Games magazines have compared the speed of Win 7, 8 and 10, they are very close to one another as far as FPS in games is concerned, so I recommend not believing the popular "you need Windows 10 it'll be much faster" argument. About your hardware: I had the Phenom XII and a 32 bit OS until recently. Wasteland wouldn't start, Fallout NV took ages to load up, and I kept modifying tiny The Sims 3 maps because medium and larger maps lagged like hell ... The X4 you have should be more bearable, especially with 64 bit OS and 8GB RAM, but may not be able to play upcoming games such as Fallout 4. German games mags have recently focussed on recommending the new AMD "APUs" with onboard graphics ... they're much slower and less energy-efficient than Intel CPUs, but also a lot cheaper.I have a faint suspicion that German mags recommend the AMD CPUs so much because they're made in an AMD facility in Leipzig... But still you might want to take a look at one of their A10 CPUs as a possible alternative to a costly Intel CPU and graphics card upgrade.
QuiteTheTail Posted October 10, 2015 Author Posted October 10, 2015 Don't panic about Windows 7 "end of mainstream support". MS stopped adding new features to Windows 7 in January 2015, but will be delivering security-relevant patches for Windows 7 until January 2020. ... so I just bought another copy of Windows 7 64bit, simply because I prefer the old UI and hate the Microsoft Account (and Microsoft Support, the arrogant bunch of incompetent pricks that will lock your MS account and blackmail you into giving them your credit card number. Happened to me on Xbox.) Games magazines have compared the speed of Win 7, 8 and 10, they are very close to one another as far as FPS in games is concerned, so I recommend not believing the popular "you need Windows 10 it'll be much faster" argument. Thanks for the contribution. Although it puts me back in "undecided" state. About your hardware: I had the Phenom XII and a 32 bit OS until recently. Wasteland wouldn't start, Fallout NV took ages to load up, and I kept modifying tiny The Sims 3 maps because medium and larger maps lagged like hell ... The X4 you have should be more bearable, especially with 64 bit OS and 8GB RAM, but may not be able to play upcoming games such as Fallout 4. German games mags have recently focussed on recommending the new AMD "APUs" with onboard graphics ... they're much slower and less energy-efficient than Intel CPUs, but also a lot cheaper. I have a faint suspicion that German mags recommend the AMD CPUs so much because they're made in an AMD facility in Leipzig... But still you might want to take a look at one of their A10 CPUs as a possible alternative to a costly Intel CPU and graphics card upgrade. Thanks also for your suggestions about the hardware.
varenne Posted October 11, 2015 Posted October 11, 2015 I've decided to stay with Win7 Ultimate, 64-bit for now. Had it on my last desktop build with only 4GB RAM (actually Windows only ever seen 3.5GB) and it was okay. My neighbor inherited that PC. On a more current MB and Intel I7 and can max to 16GB RAM, currently again running fine with Win7 Ultimate 64. I tried 8 and 10 and just don't like the UI. In all reality, personal choice/preference does come into play. Sort of like some like Ubuntu and some only like pure Debian...
aragonit Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 From Win 7 you can upgrade for free to Win 10. Still not SO outdated
gvman3670 Posted October 12, 2015 Posted October 12, 2015 Oblivion plays better on W10 than on W7, at least on my machines. Same with Skyrim.
QuiteTheTail Posted October 15, 2015 Author Posted October 15, 2015 From Win 7 you can upgrade for free to Win 10. Still not SO outdated Oblivion plays better on W10 than on W7, at least on my machines. Same with Skyrim. Thanks for the contributions. However, I think I can close the topic and mark it solved. In the meantime Microsoft Store has stopped selling 8.1 and 7, to push the sales for Windows 10. It seems I have no choice now.
bjornk Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 You can buy still buy a 7 from Amazon (I hope).
QuiteTheTail Posted October 15, 2015 Author Posted October 15, 2015 You can buy still buy a 7 from Amazon (I hope). I'll try that, thanks. It will be difficult to find it in my locale, though. Worth a try, 270 eur are a pretty good sum for Win 10 Pro.
bjornk Posted October 15, 2015 Posted October 15, 2015 I'd just get the US English version, that's the least problematic version IMO. I personally don't care about localized services and other shit.
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