Brotherhood of Steel

[sen4mi]

I recently played through some of the Brotherhood of Steel encounters, and I think I know how this should be adapted to Sexout. But, of course, you all may have better ideas:

 

BOS has been under lockdown for two years. Their population has been greatly diminished. They also have a locked door where you cannot enter.

 

They are going to have a "regrowing their population" priority. And, they also are going to have a "keep their people sane" priority. This must be the case even if they did not actually spell out for you their priorities.

 

So behind that locked door must be their kids and their mothers, mothers to be, and so on.

 

The courier's role might be to provide genetic diversity (perhaps a simple sperm donation for males, but that might not be so easy for females).

 

So one possibility might involve non-lethal capture being used if you do not submit to them in your initial encouter. (But they need good non-lethal weaponry for this, something that can paralyze you and take you down fast without casualties on their part. Otherwise that defeats the purpose.) Yes, they threatened you with death, but if you choose that path they might feel they have the moral right to do whatever they want to you -- it saves explaining complicated details to you.

 

And, you could spend large chunks of time unconscious (fade to black) with only brief bits of overheard arguments and conversations to fill in the story here.

 

 

[Guest Loogie]

The Brotherhood has has those problems since Fallout 1. Their main problem is their absolute refusal to work with outsiders, which makes this idea not really fit them.

 

Also, keep in mind the Mojave Brotherhood isn't the entire Brotherhood - they have the Lost Hills and San Francisco bunkers, which would suggest they have others elsewhere.

[Chase Roxand]

Sounds a bit like "A Boy and His Dog".

[Guest]

I think this would be a great mod, revealing the brotherhood's dark secret

 

Well anyways, I really agree to the op, there should be some kind of way to make more people, because after the lock down is gone, they still need more members, and if the player hasnt done anything to remove the lockdown, they need people more than ever, to keep their population stable.

 

And also, it was mentioned that, any patrol that leaves the bunker in the lock down state, cannot get back, that is also a big lapse, which they have to cover up somehow.

[Guest Loogie]

Cleared patrols and people like Veronica are the only ones who can go back.

[saladboy21]

Yea the thing for me in the Lore is the Brotherhood of Steel don't really mix with outsiders, so I never really have them try and breed my courier. That would be my biggest problem with a side DLC of them.

 

One could base a tryout over tempting them into sex with an outsider, much like I would like to see as a direction with the Boomers, mixing their "pure" line with outsider genes.

[sen4mi]

Fallout 1 seems to be available for free download for the next 40-ish hours.

 

http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/fallout

 

I might play through that enough in the not-too-distant future to see how the brotherhood presented themselves back then.

 

But, based on new vegas lore, I think this could be made to work. I am not sure how fun it would be, and I am not sure how the player could ever escape (they would not trust you enough to let you back out, or nor even mingle freely with their own people), but I think something like this could be made to fit them.

[Ragged Robin]

How about being sent on a mission with Veronica to collect sperm samples to be used to impregnate BOS women. If one has a female character then both are fitted with something that will preserve the sperm until returned to the base. If your toon is male then you act as protector to Veronica on her sample collecting quest. Of course there is only one way to collect and store such samples descretly. The

challenge would be to collect so many samples from each race....

That inaccessible room could be a genetics lab.

 

Confession time: many years ago I was employed to proof-read a novel called My Uncle Oswald by Roald Dahl which had a similar plot base.

 

Anyone think it strange that Veronica to be so named when she is such a critic of the way the BOS are percieved by others when her very name means "true image"?

 

Sounds a bit like "A Boy and His Dog".

 

Do I detect an Ellison fan here? Chase?

[saladboy21]

This reminds me that I think there should be a perk where one sires or births X number of babies per community for a number of communities, including goodsprings, legion, ncr, vegas, novac etc.

 

But this is not the thread for that line of thought.

[beck11]

You could always have rouge elements within the BOS that like to have a little fun when out on patrols. Dont need to bring them back to their hideout too, maybe some hidden cave or something. Maybe even have one of the high level BOS members involved in this secret rape/sex/breeding cult.

 

I agree that due to lore, the BOS will never get help from any outsider even if their lives depended on it but by making a rouge angle you can circumvent that problem. Like the OP says: Cooped up underground for so long, seeing the same haggard faces everyday; it wont be a stretch to imagine that some of the recruits

that have not been completely indoctrinated would want to have a little more "explorations" outside of the confines of the BOS patrols whenever possible. Heck, there already is such a subquest like this although more innocent.

 

Maybe even add a feature where you can get kidnapped by said rouge elements if your total equipment reaches a certain tech level that the BOS deems worthy of their attention. The ultimate "having your cake and eating it" scenario, they get some fun and also get to bring back to base some new toys with no questions asked.

[D7Rock88]

You know I have to agree that something dark with the BOS would be interesting, but yeah there is the whole your an outsider thing, and my lore isn't entirely strong when it comes to the BOS, but I don't think they would mix their genes with outsiders. I mean in a conversation with Veronica she says that her and her lesbian lover were split up because well they were two women and some people in BOS think its important for their members to procreate to help keep up their numbers, you know like they are obligated to do this.

 

From what I have gathered, the BOS see their bloodlines as being pure and free from any kind of mutations, and therefore if they were to breed with outsiders who could very well have all kinds of different genetic mutations...well their pure bloodlines would then be dirtied and they as a whole would become weaker for it.

 

I mean either way, lorewise I don't see them capturing and raping outsiders or sending veronica or any other female members out to go collect sperm for genetic diversity, because that sperm would come from outsiders. However...it is possible for you to join the BOS so if a female or male courier were to join the BOS they would then be obligated to help with the whole procreation thing. "Oh but your still an outisder who has dirty genetics so and so forth and blah blah" Not really, because once you've joined them your no longer an outsider and have clearly to proven them that if anything you are superior to other outsiders and your genetics could only help to strengthen their bloodlines rather than make them weaker.

 

Just my thoughts on this.

[Halstrom]

Doesn't mean they couldn't have some twisted Impregnation program running, capturing & cleansing/sterilising outside women then using them as Baby boxes for their own stored parental embryo's

 

Some really twisted offshoot needing mutated OffSpring for creating basically power armor versions of Darleks, or transforming outside women into war tools by orgasm controlling Power Armor

[Ragged Robin]

Doesn't mean they couldn't have some twisted Impregnation program running' date=' capturing & cleansing/sterilising outside women then using them as Baby boxes for their own stored parental embryo's

 

Some really twisted offshoot needing mutated OffSpring for creating basically power armor versions of Darleks, or transforming outside women into war tools by orgasm controlling Power Armor

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Did someone say Daleks? oooer, there IS a Tardis mod available...whatever next?

Actually since my interest in a popular tv series goes all the way back to 1963 (I am that old but can't be bothered to grow up) and if my Dr Who lore is still sharp enough. The Kaleds helped Davros create the Daleks as the ultimate killing machines, peopled by hideously mutated creatures, partly genetically manipulated, in a world not unlike that of Fallout. If anyone suffers from an overdeveloped sense of eugenic superiority it would be the BOS. Now I really want to know what might lurk behind that door....

A creature/human cross breeding program to create a sufficiently homicidal destructive creature, with intelligence to strilize inferior beings. Perhaps using a female courier, Cassidy and Veronica?

This gets nastier by the minute.

[D7Rock88]

You people scare me sometimes, especially you Halstrom. Anyway off track, the BOS live their lives by this thing called the Codex, and in said codex one of their major rules is no el fuckadoodling with outsiders, in those exact words. Yep thats right in the codex it says "Thou shalt not be of the fuckadoodling-eth with outsiders." Ok it doesn't really say that, but in the codex it does say that they are not to mate with outsiders. And everything you said, even if they steralize or whatever and so on and junk and crap whatever...it still counts as mating with an outsider. Now some renegade BOS members who were all like man fuck this shit I wanna go get my 'kidnap some bitches and rape them and then impregnate them skankeh hoes' thing on, that could happen.

 

*edit* Personally I for one would actually like to see a sexout mod that takes place in one of the DLC's, here's a little scenario for you that starts out when you get back to base after having complete OWB.

 

*Veronica is crying*

You: Hey Veronica why are you crying?

Veronica: I got raped by Motor Runner today.

You: Oh really? Well I got raped by an evil toaster, have you ever been raped by an evil toaster? No? Well then quit crying.

[Ragged Robin]

A faction within a faction. It's not as if there were no precedent for the BOS to break from their basic Codex:

 

Lyons on the East Coast is one example and the midwester BOS both radically depart from orthodox BOS behaviour. Ifound this little gem below which carries at least some relevancy (based on Fallout Tactics):

 

[Midwest BOS] Unlike the original, isolationist Brotherhood, this faction rules over a large part of the area between the former states of Illinois and Kansas and drafts tribals from villages under Brotherhood protection into its ranks.

 

Not too much of a stretch to have a covert operation running under the Elder's nose. He might even be turning a blind eye to it all...

[Mickster]

Doesn't mean they couldn't have some twisted Impregnation program running' date=' capturing & cleansing/sterilising outside women then using them as Baby boxes for their own stored parental embryo's

 

Some really twisted offshoot needing mutated OffSpring for creating basically power armor versions of Darleks, or transforming outside women into war tools by orgasm controlling Power Armor

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I like the way you think

Would be better to have a rogue faction inside the BoS doing that though. Something similar to what Ragged Robin suggests but instead of considering the Vegas BoS as the faction within a faction have a only a part of the Vegas BoS as that faction in a faction.

 

 

A faction within a faction. It's not as if there were no precedent for the BOS to break from their basic Codex:

 

Lyons on the East Coast is one example and the midwester BOS both radically depart from orthodox BOS behaviour. Ifound this little gem below which carries at least some relevancy (based on Fallout Tactics):

 

[Midwest BOS] Unlike the original' date=' isolationist Brotherhood, this faction rules over a large part of the area between the former states of Illinois and Kansas and drafts tribals from villages under Brotherhood protection into its ranks.

 

Not too much of a stretch to have a covert operation running under the Elder's nose. He might even be turning a blind eye to it all...

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[zcomp]

I think the most straightforward lore friendly way to incorporate sexout with BoS is to have them ask you to retrieve "pre-war" relics that turn out to be ridiculous automated bondage devices. Think Mr.Fisto with animations.

 

Granted, thats a more work .

[ChancellorKremlin]

*edit* Personally I for one would actually like to see a sexout mod that takes place in one of the DLC's' date=' here's a little scenario for you that starts out when you get back to base after having complete OWB.

 

*Veronica is crying*

You: Hey Veronica why are you crying?

Veronica: I got raped by Motor Runner today.

You: Oh really? Well I got raped by an evil toaster, have you ever been raped by an evil toaster? No? Well then quit crying.

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Hahaha lol that was hilarious. A quest that basically allows for those scenarios with companions would be very interesting indeed. Imagine if when you ask a follower to wait or stay in some place, a few hours pass, and then when you come and pick them up, they have some sort of encounter or emotional response like that? That would be awesome!

 

I think we need to take into account that the BoS aren't "evil" in the sense that the Enclave, Legion or Fiends are, so I think it would be difficult to have some sort of genetic monster behind that door, or rogues that go raping people and such.

 

Also, I don't think Fallout Tactics is considered cannon, so lore-wise it doesn't actually say much, which is a shame because I quite liked Fallout Tactics.

 

I think the only way we could reconcile this is that while the BoS does not allow their members to 'mate' with outsiders for reproduction purposes, I don't see much of a problem with them just coming up to you and hitting on you, but more lore related, not 'hookups' style.

 

So say, you have a 'seduction' quest where your aim is to sleep with the initiate (the blonde one) the doctor and torres, and for each you have to pass some sort of quest or impress them in some sort of way, say high a very high speech check or repair check or weapons check, that would be fun. The doctor could probably provide contraceptives or pills that would mean no offspring would be produced, basically nulling the whole 'dilution of the genes' problem. Obviously, this would all be done without the elder's strict sanction, although he may probably see the benefits of allowing the bos to 'blow off some steam' - this could even all be conditional on joining the bos in the first place.

 

I think lore-wise that would work.

[sen4mi]

Personally, impression has been that BOS has a strict military mindset, and a greedy possessive fascination with technology. And I agree some aspects of this would severely limit normal human interactions with them.

 

But they are concerned about their purity. They do not care about you.

 

(And, personally, I am surprised that they let the courier go free after a simple encounter, but my supposition there would be that they were not only looking for a loyalty test but that they had implanted something in you to ensure your loyalty and were testing it. (Though, if you play through a game where you destroy the brotherhood of steel, it obviously did not work. Technology is buggy like that, sometimes.))

 

Anyways, while I am sure that they have rules against treating you like a person, and while I am sure that their people in charge have concerns about you disrupting their morale, this just warps the possibilities and does not eliminate them.

 

For example... let us imagine that they have vault recordings based on the experiences of the woman in vault 68 and of the man in vault 69 (perhaps in vr simulation format) and they have concerns about the long-term consequences of experiencing these recordings. How would they test for safety?

 

Or, similarly, in a population rebuild effort, they might just be using your womb (so while you do not get any animations, you do get pregnancy). Here, they probably want you to exercise regularly, but probably do not want to talk with you (so you get to wear some bondage gear and maybe have some quests to go running or something). And, maybe you are restricted to a certain zone so you do not scare the children. And, maybe to keep you from going crazy you are regularly slotted into the VR system...

 

If we can think up a reason for a courier to get access to the BOS VR system we could have a plugin system for various one-off scenarios. This character might not ever be going anywhere else, but if the mod list is compatible with your current game you could just load a save whenever you wanted to be playing a VR scenario.

 

Also, for straight-up-sex, if they diminish you enough, and limit your ability to interact with any one person enough, and if they have some technology that they can be using, I can imagine them being interested in using you, sexually. I imagine that their key concerns here would be their morale, and their purity, and their ability to study the technology. These encounters might not be fun, but might give some opportunities for people that can script special effects, or stuff...

 

 

[Docfmf84]

U all have legit points,now hers another twist Veronica has stated that her mentor went rogue. In the respect was kicked out/transferd from out west an was more interested in advancing,procuring advanced tec with GSBmodders http://www.loverslab.com/showthread.php?tid=4574 mod he and or someone could come up with all kinds of story lines as to how this could be an intresting side line. He was lonly and aquired the need for a woman and ran across some advanced enclave tec/needs tast subjs for an more devios plot an what a better way to get them to his lair then sexbots. Well I digress from here I can think of hundreds of posibilitys while still being lore friendly with GSBmodders stuff. I hope GSBModders hasent given up on his sexbot mod. I know he/she was having issues and a run of bad luck. Again to all the moders out there ya all are awsome and I am humbled by all your hard and awsome work keep it up......

[Guest Loogie]

Veronica's mentor, Father Elijah, is gone to in-depth in two of the DLC.

[Docfmf84]

Loogie I understand I think you missed my point that another/BOS leader could be introduced/not Father E persay.