TheChosenSir Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 In my Skyrim, its very rare for me to be able to load a gamesave directly into Skyrim. I first have to load a savefile of my character in something like Alternate Start's Abandoned Prison then load into the save or I will CTD. Then when I'm ingame literally and randomly just CTDs without set conditions and I usually get similar stuff in the papyrus logs, but I honestly don't understand any of it. It's becoming so annoying that my average Skyrim playthrough without CTDs is about 5-10 minutes long maximum which is preventing me from enjoying the game. I have even tried deleting all my saves and starting new playthroughs and using TES5Edit to clean my dirty plugins yet nothing seems to be fixed. If you require anything to help me solve this problem please tell me and I will reply ASAP. System Specs : Geforce GTX 760Intel® Core i5-4670k CPU @ 3.40GHz16 GB RAM1920x1080 60HzMicrosoft Windows 7 Professional Active Mod Files: (Load Order) 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.0.3] 03 Dawnguard.esm 04 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.0.3] 05 HearthFires.esm 06 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.0.3] 07 Dragonborn.esm 08 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.0.3] 09 RaceCompatibility.esm [Version 1.60a] 0A CreatureFramework.esm [Version 1.0.0] 0B ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 0C ApachiiHairFemales.esm 0D SexLab.esm [Version 1.59b] 0E Devious Devices - Assets.esm [Version 2.8.3] 0F AzarHair.esm 10 hdtHighHeel.esm 11 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 12 ApachiiHairMales.esm 13 PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm 14 Nock2Tip.esm 15 BBLuxurySuite.esm 16 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 17 RSkyrimChildren.esm 18 SexLabAroused.esm 19 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 1A daymoyl.esm 1B ApachiiHair.esm 1C SGHairPackBase.esm 1D TERAArmors.esm 1E HighResTexturePack01.esp 1F HighResTexturePack02.esp 20 HighResTexturePack03.esp 21 FS_Ygrayne.esp 22 ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp 23 MarblePhantasm.esp 24 AncientTonguesGreatSword.esp 25 Bishop.esp 26 AMatterOfTime.esp [Version 2.00] 27 Tropicalpack.esp 28 AncientTonguesSword.esp 29 NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp 2A Bishu Osafune ju Morikage.esp 2B dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 2C Jahiya.esp 2D BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp 2E DSerULG.esp 2F silverknight.esp 30 Facelight.esp 31 Matera.esp 32 EoGeom.esp 33 Blood Raven - 7B BBP.esp 34 AzarHair.esp 35 CharacterMakingExtender.esp 36 SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp 37 USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp 38 DaedricCrossbow.esp 39 DarkStandalone.esp 3A CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp 3B ImmersiveLoversComfort.esp 3C Cazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp 3D Hair Physics Project.esp 3E elucidator.esp 3F AHZmoreHUD.esp [Version 2.1.3] 40 Apropos.esp 41 ElementalArrows.esp 42 darkknightarmor.esp 43 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 44 UBW.esp 45 Succubus Queen Attire.esp 46 UltimateDragons.esp 47 EquipDragonTails.esp 48 Extended UI.esp [Version 1.2.0d] 49 lilithssickle.esp 4A ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 4B EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp 4C Extended Slider Colors.esp 4D MoreNastyCritters.esp 4E FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp 4F Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 50 Forbidden Ebony Armor.esp 51 FS_Skycutter.esp 52 FS_SwordofTruth.esp 53 Animated Dragon Wings.esp 54 GDZZJJDH.esp 55 DragonQueen.esp 56 FS_UltimateAssortment.esp 57 Bishu Osafune-ju Morikage.esp 58 HDT Female Hairstyles.esp 59 Halo's Poser.esp 5A SCO Summer Edition.esp [Version 1.0] 5B SCO Summer Edition - CoT Patch.esp 5C HDT Capes.esp 5D HDT Physics Weapon Sling.esp 5E Eyes of Aber.esp 5F HDT TestSkirts.esp 60 HDTHair_Sky201.esp 61 SexLabFuck'EmUp.esp 62 HelmetToggle2.02b.esp 63 HHairstyles.esp 64 SexLabDefeat.esp 65 JKs Cities and Towns V1.0.esp 66 SerialStrip.esp 67 [HongMun_Coat].esp 68 Witch Of The Wild.esp 69 iActivate.esp 6A iActivate - USKP.esp 6B iHUD.esp 6C numenume femalebrows MARO.esp 6D ELE-Spell and Torch Lighting.esp 6E Opeth_torch.esp 6F KCEBattleClaws.esp 70 BlacktalonArmorV11UNP.esp 71 MidnightBreed.esp 72 Minou Maid Suit CBBE TBBP.esp 73 Modern.esp 74 MomoDash.esp 75 IridumEyes2.0.esp 76 More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp 77 More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp 78 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 79 SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp 7A Nisit.esp 7B ScarletDawnArmor.esp 7C Northgirl.esp 7D NusbieVoices.esp 7E Pinup Poser.esp 7F FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp 80 Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp 81 RhoAias.esp 82 FS_NamelessLight.esp 83 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp [Version 9] 84 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 85 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 86 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 87 SexLab_DibellaCult.esp 88 Hunting in Skyrim.esp 89 RSChildren - Complete.esp 8A RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp 8B Holidays.esp 8C Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp 8D Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 8E HentaiCreatures.esp 8F Fenrir.esp 90 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp 91 BTRH_Waifu.esp 92 MBWSHeroinesRG_Frea.esp 93 HousecarlRiften.esp 94 Seductress Elizabeth.esp 95 SexLab_DibellaCult_BBL.esp 96 BBLSapachii.esp 97 SGHair33x144.esp 98 SGHairPackAIO.esp 99 SkyCompleteLegendary.esp 9A SkyRealism - Grass.esp [Version 1.0.] 9B SkyUI.esp 9C AchieveThat.esp 9D SOS - ERF Equipable Horse Penis.esp 9E SOS - ERF Horse Penis Addon.esp 9F SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp A0 SSv2.esp A1 Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp A2 TERA Boots n Greaves - for HDT.esp A3 tweak_fog-AmbL_c.esp A4 RevampedExteriorFog.esp A5 rain_fog_storm_fix.esp A6 ENB Snow FX.esp A7 VindictusDevilHunter.esp A8 Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp A9 Tera Armor Level List.esp AA P1FlyingRing.esp AB More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Flying Mod Addon.esp AC xazPrisonOverhaul.esp AD lake_house.esp AE AnniFollowersWingless.esp AF NorthernCardinal.esp B0 SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp B1 Immersive Patrols II.esp B2 Agatha Follower.esp B3 Elisdriel.esp B4 Nock2Tip.esp B5 TrissArmorRetextured.esp B6 SKY_Girls.esp B7 SexLab_Paycrime.esp B8 Signs_of_Skyrim.esp B9 BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp BA SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp BB Skyrim Horses Renewal.esp BC BBLSVisitors.esp BD CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp BE Draconic Bloodline.esp BF Devious Deviants.esp C0 AngrimApprentice.esp C1 SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp C2 SOS - Shop.esp C3 FNISspells.esp C4 daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp C5 Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp C6 AetherSuite.esp C7 AAPersonalApt.esp C8 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp C9 PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp CA PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp CB PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp CC PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp CD Nihel.esp CE The Huntsman.esp [Version 1.0] CF Faction Crossbows.esp D0 Dr_Bandolier.esp D1 TemptressVixen.esp D2 Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp D3 Elpelin Pinegrove.esp D4 Darklilith.esp D5 MeeraFollower.esp D6 rtZuleikaFollower.esp D7 BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp D8 BBLSspouse.esp D9 BlackSacramentArmor.esp DA Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp DB bm_SimpleAction.esp DC BTRH_Izo.esp DD SexLab Romance.esp DE Dwemer Spectres Legendary.esp DF Hikari.esp E0 Kawaii Face Presets.esp E1 Kawaii Face Presets2.esp E2 ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp E3 Mavari Armor.esp E4 Neo's Oriental Dress.esp E5 NewDrapedDress1.esp E6 Toccata.esp E7 runesword stormbringer.esp E8 Beauties of Skyrim.esp E9 PerMaExtendedPerkDescriptions.esp EA Dread Huntress Armor.esp EB yurica_musketeer [HDT].esp EC zzEstrus.esp ED [KijikoHair_MalePack].esp EE _sunya.esp EF _aya_zelaII.esp F0 aya_099.esp F1 Lamae.esp F2 Natalya Follower.esp F3 EpicElves by zzjay.esp F4 SuccubusRaceLite.esp F5 Sabrina.esp F6 DF_Dianest.esp F7 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 3.0.1] F8 da_alternate_start_extension.esp F9 SexLabSolutions_LAL_Patch.esp FA KCEUnarmedBladeSound.esp Attached below is my latest Papyrus.0 log since I have no idea how to put so much text into a spoiler as it doesn't seem to work for me. ~Thanks in advance! <3 Papyrus.0.log
pinky6225 Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 Looking through it the main error message is related to estrus [05/02/2015 - 12:41:24PM] Error: Property zzClothesFarmClothes03withExtras on script zzcommonarmamapcorescript attached to alias zzEstrusPlayer on quest zzEstrusQuest (EC004888) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (EC002E02) is not the right type I'd give it a try without that mod loaded (if you need it for the animations for something like estru charus having it installed is enough you don't need it to be activated in the load order) as it occurs an awful lot their is also a lot of missing file stuff at the beginning of your log but they are not mods i'm familiar with [05/02/2015 - 12:41:17PM] Cannot open store for class "follower3dnpc", missing file?[05/02/2015 - 12:41:17PM] Cannot open store for class "fissinterface", missing file?[05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "AAFlyStorm", missing file?[05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "xGSxSmithyCraftingScript", missing file?[05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "xGSxAlchemyStoreScript", missing file?[05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "xGSxSmithyTanningScript", missing file?[05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "xGSxSmithingStorageScript", missing file?[05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "xGSxGemstoneScript", missing file?[05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "aaSkoomaLabScriptACTIVATE", missing file?[05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "POPAmbushEngine", missing file?[05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "xGSxGeneralStores", missing file?[05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "POPAmbushDeathCounter", missing file?[05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "QF_POPPirateQuest_020051F4", missing file?[05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Error: Unable to bind script QF_POPPirateQuest_020051F4 to POPPirateQuestDUPLICATE001 (AF0051F4) because their base types do not match[05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "POPPiratesQuestScript", missing file?[05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Error: Unable to bind script POPPiratesQuestScript to POPPirateQuestDUPLICATE001 (AF0051F4) because their base types do not match[05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "_sltns_update", missing file?[05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Error: Unable to bind script _sltns_update to _sltns_update (B000331F) because their base types do not match[05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "DsR__TIF__020253E5", missing file?[05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Error: Unable to bind script DsR__TIF__020253E5 to topic info BD0253E5 on <NULL quest> because their base types do not match[05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "DsR__TIF__02025960", missing file?[05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Error: Unable to bind script DsR__TIF__02025960 to topic info BD025960 on <NULL quest> because their base types do not match[05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "DBL_SummonChestSCT", missing file? So i don't know how much of a issue this would be
TheChosenSir Posted May 2, 2015 Author Posted May 2, 2015 Looking through it the main error message is related to estrus [05/02/2015 - 12:41:24PM] Error: Property zzClothesFarmClothes03withExtras on script zzcommonarmamapcorescript attached to alias zzEstrusPlayer on quest zzEstrusQuest (EC004888) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (EC002E02) is not the right type I'd give it a try without that mod loaded (if you need it for the animations for something like estru charus having it installed is enough you don't need it to be activated in the load order) as it occurs an awful lot their is also a lot of missing file stuff at the beginning of your log but they are not mods i'm familiar with [05/02/2015 - 12:41:17PM] Cannot open store for class "follower3dnpc", missing file? [05/02/2015 - 12:41:17PM] Cannot open store for class "fissinterface", missing file? [05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "AAFlyStorm", missing file? [05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "xGSxSmithyCraftingScript", missing file? [05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "xGSxAlchemyStoreScript", missing file? [05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "xGSxSmithyTanningScript", missing file? [05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "xGSxSmithingStorageScript", missing file? [05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "xGSxGemstoneScript", missing file? [05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "aaSkoomaLabScriptACTIVATE", missing file? [05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "POPAmbushEngine", missing file? [05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "xGSxGeneralStores", missing file? [05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "POPAmbushDeathCounter", missing file? [05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "QF_POPPirateQuest_020051F4", missing file? [05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Error: Unable to bind script QF_POPPirateQuest_020051F4 to POPPirateQuestDUPLICATE001 (AF0051F4) because their base types do not match [05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "POPPiratesQuestScript", missing file? [05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Error: Unable to bind script POPPiratesQuestScript to POPPirateQuestDUPLICATE001 (AF0051F4) because their base types do not match [05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "_sltns_update", missing file? [05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Error: Unable to bind script _sltns_update to _sltns_update (B000331F) because their base types do not match [05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "DsR__TIF__020253E5", missing file? [05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Error: Unable to bind script DsR__TIF__020253E5 to topic info BD0253E5 on <NULL quest> because their base types do not match [05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "DsR__TIF__02025960", missing file? [05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Error: Unable to bind script DsR__TIF__02025960 to topic info BD025960 on <NULL quest> because their base types do not match [05/02/2015 - 12:41:18PM] Cannot open store for class "DBL_SummonChestSCT", missing file? So i don't know how much of a issue this would be Thanks for looking into it! I'll try right now and see if it will still CTD without Estrus as I just installed it because I thought it was quite funny. I don't actually really need it. Also I noticed that in a lot of my papyrus logs I did have some missing files and I even searched up some of them but a lot of them were stuff barely related to my mods and I always check my mod requirements before I install something so it's weird that I'm seeing this type of stuff but this mod setup dates back to the summer of 2014 (when I got my new PC) so I might have missed up on some. P.S. This is my load order for anyone interested and I will also add it to the main post : Active Mod Files: 00 Skyrim.esm 01 Update.esm 02 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp [Version 2.0.3] 03 Dawnguard.esm 04 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp [Version 2.0.3] 05 HearthFires.esm 06 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp [Version 2.0.3] 07 Dragonborn.esm 08 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp [Version 2.0.3] 09 RaceCompatibility.esm [Version 1.60a] 0A CreatureFramework.esm [Version 1.0.0] 0B ClimatesOfTamriel.esm 0C ApachiiHairFemales.esm 0D SexLab.esm [Version 1.59b] 0E Devious Devices - Assets.esm [Version 2.8.3] 0F AzarHair.esm 10 hdtHighHeel.esm 11 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 12 ApachiiHairMales.esm 13 PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm 14 Nock2Tip.esm 15 BBLuxurySuite.esm 16 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 17 RSkyrimChildren.esm 18 SexLabAroused.esm 19 Devious Devices - Integration.esm 1A daymoyl.esm 1B ApachiiHair.esm 1C SGHairPackBase.esm 1D TERAArmors.esm 1E HighResTexturePack01.esp 1F HighResTexturePack02.esp 20 HighResTexturePack03.esp 21 FS_Ygrayne.esp 22 ViewableFactionRanksBothDLC.esp 23 MarblePhantasm.esp 24 AncientTonguesGreatSword.esp 25 Bishop.esp 26 AMatterOfTime.esp [Version 2.00] 27 Tropicalpack.esp 28 AncientTonguesSword.esp 29 NS_HuntingGroundsOutfit.esp 2A Bishu Osafune ju Morikage.esp 2B dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 2C Jahiya.esp 2D BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp 2E DSerULG.esp 2F silverknight.esp 30 Facelight.esp 31 Matera.esp 32 EoGeom.esp 33 Blood Raven - 7B BBP.esp 34 AzarHair.esp 35 CharacterMakingExtender.esp 36 SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp 37 USKP Patcher for RaceCompatibility.esp 38 DaedricCrossbow.esp 39 DarkStandalone.esp 3A CrimsonTwilightArmor.esp 3B ImmersiveLoversComfort.esp 3C Cazy Hairs-by zzjay.esp 3D Hair Physics Project.esp 3E elucidator.esp 3F AHZmoreHUD.esp [Version 2.1.3] 40 Apropos.esp 41 ElementalArrows.esp 42 darkknightarmor.esp 43 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp 44 UBW.esp 45 Succubus Queen Attire.esp 46 UltimateDragons.esp 47 EquipDragonTails.esp 48 Extended UI.esp [Version 1.2.0d] 49 lilithssickle.esp 4A ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp 4B EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp 4C Extended Slider Colors.esp 4D MoreNastyCritters.esp 4E FaceMasksOfSkyrim.esp 4F Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 50 Forbidden Ebony Armor.esp 51 FS_Skycutter.esp 52 FS_SwordofTruth.esp 53 Animated Dragon Wings.esp 54 GDZZJJDH.esp 55 DragonQueen.esp 56 FS_UltimateAssortment.esp 57 Bishu Osafune-ju Morikage.esp 58 HDT Female Hairstyles.esp 59 Halo's Poser.esp 5A SCO Summer Edition.esp [Version 1.0] 5B SCO Summer Edition - CoT Patch.esp 5C HDT Capes.esp 5D HDT Physics Weapon Sling.esp 5E Eyes of Aber.esp 5F HDT TestSkirts.esp 60 HDTHair_Sky201.esp 61 SexLabFuck'EmUp.esp 62 HelmetToggle2.02b.esp 63 HHairstyles.esp 64 SexLabDefeat.esp 65 JKs Cities and Towns V1.0.esp 66 SerialStrip.esp 67 [HongMun_Coat].esp 68 Witch Of The Wild.esp 69 iActivate.esp 6A iActivate - USKP.esp 6B iHUD.esp 6C numenume femalebrows MARO.esp 6D ELE-Spell and Torch Lighting.esp 6E Opeth_torch.esp 6F KCEBattleClaws.esp 70 BlacktalonArmorV11UNP.esp 71 MidnightBreed.esp 72 Minou Maid Suit CBBE TBBP.esp 73 Modern.esp 74 MomoDash.esp 75 IridumEyes2.0.esp 76 More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp 77 More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp 78 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 79 SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp 7A Nisit.esp 7B ScarletDawnArmor.esp 7C Northgirl.esp 7D NusbieVoices.esp 7E Pinup Poser.esp 7F FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp 80 Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp 81 RhoAias.esp 82 FS_NamelessLight.esp 83 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp [Version 9] 84 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp 85 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp 86 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp 87 SexLab_DibellaCult.esp 88 Hunting in Skyrim.esp 89 RSChildren - Complete.esp 8A RSChildren_PatchUSKP.esp 8B Holidays.esp 8C Further Dark Dungeons for ENB.esp 8D Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 8E HentaiCreatures.esp 8F Fenrir.esp 90 UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp 91 BTRH_Waifu.esp 92 MBWSHeroinesRG_Frea.esp 93 HousecarlRiften.esp 94 Seductress Elizabeth.esp 95 SexLab_DibellaCult_BBL.esp 96 BBLSapachii.esp 97 SGHair33x144.esp 98 SGHairPackAIO.esp 99 SkyCompleteLegendary.esp 9A SkyRealism - Grass.esp [Version 1.0.] 9B SkyUI.esp 9C AchieveThat.esp 9D SOS - ERF Equipable Horse Penis.esp 9E SOS - ERF Horse Penis Addon.esp 9F SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp A0 SSv2.esp A1 Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp A2 TERA Boots n Greaves - for HDT.esp A3 tweak_fog-AmbL_c.esp A4 RevampedExteriorFog.esp A5 rain_fog_storm_fix.esp A6 ENB Snow FX.esp A7 VindictusDevilHunter.esp A8 Wintermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp A9 Tera Armor Level List.esp AA P1FlyingRing.esp AB More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Flying Mod Addon.esp AC xazPrisonOverhaul.esp AD lake_house.esp AE AnniFollowersWingless.esp AF NorthernCardinal.esp B0 SexLab Theft and Seduction.esp B1 Immersive Patrols II.esp B2 Agatha Follower.esp B3 Elisdriel.esp B4 Nock2Tip.esp B5 TrissArmorRetextured.esp B6 SKY_Girls.esp B7 SexLab_Paycrime.esp B8 Signs_of_Skyrim.esp B9 BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp BA SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp BB Skyrim Horses Renewal.esp BC BBLSVisitors.esp BD CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp BE Draconic Bloodline.esp BF Devious Deviants.esp C0 AngrimApprentice.esp C1 SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp C2 SOS - Shop.esp C3 FNISspells.esp C4 daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp C5 Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp C6 AetherSuite.esp C7 AAPersonalApt.esp C8 PerkusMaximus_Master.esp C9 PerkusMaximus_Warrior.esp CA PerkusMaximus_Thief.esp CB PerMa Expansion 1 - Wintermyst.esp CC PerkusMaximus_Mage.esp CD Nihel.esp CE The Huntsman.esp [Version 1.0] CF Faction Crossbows.esp D0 Dr_Bandolier.esp D1 TemptressVixen.esp D2 Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp D3 Elpelin Pinegrove.esp D4 Darklilith.esp D5 MeeraFollower.esp D6 rtZuleikaFollower.esp D7 BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp D8 BBLSspouse.esp D9 BlackSacramentArmor.esp DA Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp DB bm_SimpleAction.esp DC BTRH_Izo.esp DD SexLab Romance.esp DE Dwemer Spectres Legendary.esp DF Hikari.esp E0 Kawaii Face Presets.esp E1 Kawaii Face Presets2.esp E2 ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp E3 Mavari Armor.esp E4 Neo's Oriental Dress.esp E5 NewDrapedDress1.esp E6 Toccata.esp E7 runesword stormbringer.esp E8 Beauties of Skyrim.esp E9 PerMaExtendedPerkDescriptions.esp EA Dread Huntress Armor.esp EB yurica_musketeer [HDT].esp EC zzEstrus.esp ED [KijikoHair_MalePack].esp EE _sunya.esp EF _aya_zelaII.esp F0 aya_099.esp F1 Lamae.esp F2 Natalya Follower.esp F3 EpicElves by zzjay.esp F4 SuccubusRaceLite.esp F5 Sabrina.esp F6 DF_Dianest.esp F7 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 3.0.1] F8 da_alternate_start_extension.esp F9 SexLabSolutions_LAL_Patch.esp FA KCEUnarmedBladeSound.esp
pinky6225 Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 if the setup and the save is quite old it might be worth downloading Save game script cleaner by Hadoram http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D52363%26preview%3D&pUp=1 and seeing if their are any dead scripts floating around (you'd probably benefit from doing it after deactivating estru and loading into a save) that you can remove While seeming counter productive as well it might be worth trying with logging turned off for a while and seeing how far you can play since the script engine is far more efficent when it is just executing scripts and not waiting for things to be writen to the log as this does slow down its performance by quite a lot
TheChosenSir Posted May 2, 2015 Author Posted May 2, 2015 if the setup and the save is quite old it might be worth downloading Save game script cleaner by Hadoram http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52363/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D52363%26preview%3D&pUp=1 and seeing if their are any dead scripts floating around (you'd probably benefit from doing it after deactivating estru and loading into a save) that you can remove While seeming counter productive as well it might be worth trying with logging turned off for a while and seeing how far you can play since the script engine is far more efficent when it is just executing scripts and not waiting for things to be writen to the log as this does slow down its performance by quite a lot Following your advice, I disabled Estrus and used the save game script cleaner and it CTD'd when loading directly onto an open world save. This was the resulting Papyrus. (It would load and when music would play and it would enter the game world it just CTDs) Papyrus.0.log Then I tried my casual way of loading my saves so I am able to play.... and same thing. I think there is something predictable though as I'm trying to complete one of my (it's a mod) quests that takes me to a Hagraven Nest outside of Riften and when I pass by a certain area of the road that takes me there it CTDs so it did not make much of a difference. Papyrus.0.log Then I disabled Papyrus logging to see if that will make a slight difference. It did not. Edit : My CTDs can also include just me starting to go a bit fast with casting spells, sprinting head on, or even quickly opening my items menu to equip some armor. They really are random. Sometimes they include when I enter areas but when I come back later to play again I can actually load into that area next time so I think the problem here is aimed at a script-wise setting.
Varithina Posted May 2, 2015 Posted May 2, 2015 Yipe, something that is not mentioned too often, but should be is don't script clean in outdoors areas, I normally use breezehome, make a real save then clean the scripts from that save, you might still have to do the load the prison cell then load the main save but it should work. As for esterus there is a new version somewhere around here on ll, that is supposed to have sorted out the script spam, you still need the original mod I think but you do not active the esp, its just for the animations. Take a look here http://www.loverslab.com/topic/30871-estrus-chaurus/
azmodan22 Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 Had a similar problem yesterday. Fixed by just updating the unoficial patches and waiting 24h. For starters just wait 24h in game for all running scripts to settle down. If that doesnt fixe it try updating the patches and waiting.
Guest Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 Just test your game for performance before you start a new game and find the culprit. 1.) Are you using Mod Organizer? 2.) Make sure important mods like RaceCompatibility aren't being overwritten by other mods 3.) I used the succubus race mod it caused me CTD's and noticeable drop of 10fps. 4.) CharacterMakingExtender.esp I would recommend using RaceMenu 3.2.0 by expired instead 5.) you have followed S.T.E.P. guides right? Because I am not seeing skyrim project optimization.esm 6.) have to ask do you have shesons memory patch? And do you have this in your SKSE.ini file [General] ClearInvalidRegistrations=1 Download skytweak so you can easily change your setting and stress test your game go into the world set your speed through skytweak to 300 and run through the world see if you get crashes, if you do maybe your game isn't that stable remove some mods and try again.
TheChosenSir Posted May 4, 2015 Author Posted May 4, 2015 Had a similar problem yesterday. Fixed by just updating the unoficial patches and waiting 24h. For starters just wait 24h in game for all running scripts to settle down. If that doesnt fixe it try updating the patches and waiting. I will try that right now. Thanks for the advice! Just test your game for performance before you start a new game and find the culprit. 1.) Are you using Mod Organizer? 2.) Make sure important mods like RaceCompatibility aren't being overwritten by other mods 3.) I used the succubus race mod it caused me CTD's and noticeable drop of 10fps. 4.) CharacterMakingExtender.esp I would recommend using RaceMenu 3.2.0 by expired instead 5.) you have followed S.T.E.P. guides right? Because I am not seeing skyrim project optimization.esm 6.) have to ask do you have shesons memory patch? And do you have this in your SKSE.ini file [General] ClearInvalidRegistrations=1 Download skytweak so you can easily change your setting and stress test your game go into the world set your speed through skytweak to 300 and run through the world see if you get crashes, if you do maybe your game isn't that stable remove some mods and try again. 1) No, I use NMM as when I tried MO it was a bit too tedious and difficult for me especially when I already have a large mod collection installed and it would have taken a lot of time I don't have to set it up again with MO. 2) RaceCompatibility is provided from ECE and I'm close to sure that it's not being overwritten. 3) I use the Succubus Race just to see how my different presets look on different custom bodies (I tend to switch bodies and compare a lot so I like having a few custom races.) and rarely use it for gameplay (I have once but that was a long time ago when my mod collection was much smaller and I didn't have CTDs compared to this.) 4)I used to use RaceMenu but its much easier for me to work with ECE as they are more preset friendly and I am more familiar with as I like to constantly change my character's appearance. 5)Actually I haven't really though about following S.T.E.P. guides but I will start reading them ASAP since you recommended them. 6)To be honest I actually didn't. I just added it into the SKSE.ini file and I will download Shesons Memory Patch as well. I will also try the Skytweak thing later (along with the S.T.E.P. guides) because I am exhausted at the moment but anyway thanks for everyone who gave me advice. On a side note ; I don't know if it's because you guys or some miracle but my average playtime is now almost doubled! Today I played for about 20-30 minutes before I got a CTD (due to opening a journal which is one of the random menu-wise CTDs I get) (also it takes me half a minute to get back in playthrough so if a CTD happens I can get right back on and play as I constantly quicksave) so thanks to all who helped and I appreciate it! I will still take more advice as more people pass by!
yatol Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 Following your advice, I disabled Estrus and used the save game script cleaner and it CTD'd when loading directly onto an open world save. This was the resulting Papyrus. (It would load and when music would play and it would enter the game world it just CTDs)Papyrus.0.log Then I tried my casual way of loading my saves so I am able to play.... and same thing. I think there is something predictable though as I'm trying to complete one of my (it's a mod) quests that takes me to a Hagraven Nest outside of Riften and when I pass by a certain area of the road that takes me there it CTDs so it did not make much of a difference. Papyrus.0.log Then I disabled Papyrus logging to see if that will make a slight difference. It did not. papyrus logs that's to check if your mods are working it's useless to fix ctd, when you ctd, nothing is write in that log yesterday i had a ctd, a real one (not a ram ctd because bad luck with leveled lists), i can reproduce it after the gauldur amulet, when i went outside, ctd when i reload the save and went outside, ctd when i reload and coc whiterunexterior01, ctd when and coc qasmoke, coc markarthexterior01, and went back to ctd zone, ctd when -------------------------------------------------------, did the mine with some forsworn, and went back to ctd zone with another route, ctd when-------------------------------------------------------, did the mehrune quest near markarth and start the aethernium quest, no problem and now i am going for the cannibal quest, to see if i still ctd there didn't have any problem there on the other profile, it's probably a broken npc that can spawn now that i am above level 30 that mean i can try getting in the ctd zone from another route to try my luck at getting a spawn without the problem or come back later with more levels so it can no longer spawn but fixing the problem... that's mission impossible 9 that's one of skyrim biggest fail, they forgot the popup saying "skyrim have crash because" when it crash (it may be useless on console, but not on pc)
Guest Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 1) No, I use NMM as when I tried MO it was a bit too tedious and difficult for me especially when I already have a large mod collection installed and it would have taken a lot of time I don't have to set it up again with MO. 2) RaceCompatibility is provided from ECE and I'm close to sure that it's not being overwritten. 3) I use the Succubus Race just to see how my different presets look on different custom bodies (I tend to switch bodies and compare a lot so I like having a few custom races.) and rarely use it for gameplay (I have once but that was a long time ago when my mod collection was much smaller and I didn't have CTDs compared to this.) 4)I used to use RaceMenu but its much easier for me to work with ECE as they are more preset friendly and I am more familiar with as I like to constantly change my character's appearance. 5)Actually I haven't really though about following S.T.E.P. guides but I will start reading them ASAP since you recommended them. 6)To be honest I actually didn't. I just added it into the SKSE.ini file and I will download Shesons Memory Patch as well. I will also try the Skytweak thing later (along with the S.T.E.P. guides) because I am exhausted at the moment but anyway thanks for everyone who gave me advice. On a side note ; I don't know if it's because you guys or some miracle but my average playtime is now almost doubled! Today I played for about 20-30 minutes before I got a CTD (due to opening a journal which is one of the random menu-wise CTDs I get) (also it takes me half a minute to get back in playthrough so if a CTD happens I can get right back on and play as I constantly quicksave) so thanks to all who helped and I appreciate it! I will still take more advice as more people pass by! If you use NMM you will have script problems guaranteed Uninstalling things with NMM is never a for sure thing. I understand it is an undertaking but you'll never have to worry about screwing up your skyrim directory and knowing which files come from what mod. I would still recommend getting rid of it. I don't know if you used the newest version but its changed quite a bit and presets are easy to load yes S.T.E.P even runs you through safe ini tweaks. Yeah no problem also I am not sure I remember there was something maybe an ini setting to fix menu crashes but I can't seem to find it.
Redflyingmonkey Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 Two things to try : deactivate sexlab theft and seduction, and sexlab nude creatures. Harshest errors come from those, maybe they're not up to date or would enjoy a lower place on the load order. And yeah, I've noticed you have Ragdoll And Forces, which means you have a XPMS skeleton ? Is it Groovtama's XPMSE skeleton by any chance ? If you have it, try to check if you installed Extended Monster Skeletons by mistake during the skeleton installation, this one is either 2 fps or a CTD in certain areas.
Gameplayer Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 Sexlab Nude Creatures was kinda taken over by More Nasty Critters. Never heard of Sexlab theft and Seduction. Here's another thing to consider. Your Loading an arseton of hair mods, and your probably only using one hair at a time in the game. My point is hair mods are going to slow you down a lot more than most would think on load times. Just use one mod. Another thing, you have a shit ton of Plug ins. Its time to either learn to merge plugs with say TesVedit and this " Xedit " or just to trim down your load order. Every plug you add your actually going to have performance issues. Crazy thing about merging plugs down to one plugin, your performance goes back up.
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