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Posted

A Rant.....

 

 

>Start another life
>New save
>Configure all mods
>CTD upon going into wilderness


> repeat steps
> COC to whiterundragonsreach
> Itsallkushbro.avi
> leave whiterun
> Nope no problems here
> Play for THREE FUCKING HOURS Flawlessly

> Go to captured dreams
> save outside
> Go in, get quest. Save
NOPE FUCK YOU CTD CTD CTD CTD NO SAVE FOR YOU

> Herewefuckingago.jpg

> Reload exterior save

>Loading
>Loading....
>Loading......
>Sounds..........

>wtf did you think you where going to play for ?. bmp

>CTD

>Repeat
>CTD CTD CTD CTD CTD CTD


Serisoly, fuck this game.

I was just standing that exact spot for a good 20 minuntes with no problems and working perfectly.
But I cant fucking load back into that slot.

Fuck you skyrim.
Fuck you.
Im so fucking tired of your fucking day to day fucking (Oh i will work, NAW YOU GOTTA SPEND 2 HOURS CONFIGUREING EVERY LITTLE FUCKIGN TINY THING AND THEN IM GONNA JUST CTD CTD CTD CTD CTD CTD ALLLLLLL FUCKING DAY)

I don't fucking get it, I haven't fucking installed a new mod in like a month becuase the game has been solid and i haven't fucked with ANYTHING at all.. Then it just goes back to a solid fucking week of getting assfucked at any little fucking thing i try to do.

Fucking turning into a waste of  my fucking time

I don't fucking have another 100 hours to fucking reconfigure evrey single goddammed little fucking butterly that floats thru the trees.
Just fucking work.
You have no reason not too
Your fucking LOOT is perfect.
Your mesh's are flawless
Your fucking mods are blended and handpicked to make sure they FUCKING WORKED TOGETHER AND DID FOR MONTHS
Your have fucking 32gb of memory to fuck with so i dont understand if thats the fucking issue.
Why the fuck do you constatly fuck with me
Why.
why..
Why..

why..

why..

whyy...

why..

whyy

why

why

why

why

I Dont want to fucking spend 20 hours fucking configring you again; I want to game and fucking go to bed. Simple it really is.

yet like a cheap tawainse hooker who speaks very little english you cant just seem to comprehend what im trying to ask of you.

 

fuck you skyrim.

fuck you.

 

 

/ rant.

Posted

There was a thread to this same problem posted not long ago with a solution in it <3

 

Help ? Where ? what should i be lurking for now ?

Posted

One of the glories of using MO. You don't have to start all over. Just move the mod where it needs to be. If you're using NMM just try uninstalling Alternate Life, and when you reinstall it, make sure that the .esp is the VERY last .esp loaded.

Posted

One of the glories of using MO. You don't have to start all over. Just move the mod where it needs to be. If you're using NMM just try uninstalling Alternate Life, and when you reinstall it, make sure that the .esp is the VERY last .esp loaded.

 

Im using MO. LAL is last, next to M.A. ; Never fucked with anything in skyrim for at least a month I have no idea why its being a bitch right now.

And its hit or miss

 

 

For instance. I can start the game COC to a interor cell and walk to an exterior cell and it will be okay (Most of the time)

Then just randomly crash when i save and I can never use that exterior save again.

 

And if i try to go right to a exterior cell from the LAL prision room its autocrash9000.

 

Then sometiems I honestly cant do a goddammed thing unless i start a completely new save.

 

And other times it acts as if its totally cool and never had an issue to begin with.

 

how the fuck does that make any sense ?

Posted

Could be issues with the way memory is being handled, or bad scripts, or bad .ini tweaks... any number of things. 

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50214/

Follow that guide to start to stabalize your game. It helped me a great deal. 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/30936/?

Download SkyrimTuner's .ini's optimized for Realvision (make sure to change whatever values your ENB preset tells you to). I use the ones optimized for uGridsToLoad=5, then change my uGrids to 7. 

That will solve at least any possibilities of it being memory problems, or bad .ini tweaks. If those don't solve it, you've got scripts somewhere that are running rampant, and it's a mod causing it to happen. 

Also try doing a virus scan and defraging the drive your install is on (unless you've installed it on an SSD. NEVER defrag an SSD. BAD juju). 

If all of this doesn't help stablize your game, I'll be glad to do what I can to help :)

Posted

Could be issues with the way memory is being handled, or bad scripts, or bad .ini tweaks... any number of things. 

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50214/

 

Follow that guide to start to stabalize your game. It helped me a great deal. 

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/30936/?

 

Download SkyrimTuner's .ini's optimized for Realvision (make sure to change whatever values your ENB preset tells you to). I use the ones optimized for uGridsToLoad=5, then change my uGrids to 7. 

 

That will solve at least any possibilities of it being memory problems, or bad .ini tweaks. If those don't solve it, you've got scripts somewhere that are running rampant, and it's a mod causing it to happen. 

 

Also try doing a virus scan and defraging the drive your install is on (unless you've installed it on an SSD. NEVER defrag an SSD. BAD juju). 

 

If all of this doesn't help stablize your game, I'll be glad to do what I can to help :)

 

And here we go!

Thanks, ill let you know what comes of it.

 

Posted

Sure thing :) Just a tip: if I have to do a totally fresh install, Realvision ENB's "suggested" mods list are always my starting point. I use another of SkyrimTuner's presets, though. Purevision ENB. Kinda the same? But it's based on Pure Weathers, instead of Climates of Tamriel. Less plugins/bloat than CoT, and I think it looks better.

Posted

Crashing on loading a save is expected behavior for me. So i have a save just after setting all mod settings, that in case constant crash i load first, then the latest save. Works like a charm.

 

And crashing on quick- and autosave too, haven't found a reliable solution for that, but for me at least it's rare enough to not bother.

 

Modded Skyrim is fickle bitch, but there are ways to make it behave ;)

Posted

Actually, I did a fresh install a couple of days ago, loaded my install up with every mod listed in Realvision ENB's suggested mod list, and I'm runing Purevision ENB (Same author and suggested mods, just based on Pure Weathers instead of CoT). I'm at about 168 .esp files, a few of which are semi-script heavy, uGridsToLoad=7

I haven't had a CTD yet, since used the preconfigured .ini files on Realvision's page, and followed the Speed and Stability Guide for ENB. 

I'm running Mod Organizer. 

AMD FX 8120 (3.1ghz overclocked to 3.9ghz with liquid cooling)
8gb Kingston Hyper-X RAM

ASUS GTX 660

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

I'm at a fairly stable 40fps all the time. I get a little stuttering, but that's mostly in The Rift, with all of the falling leaves, or in a heavy snow storm.

Posted

I have issues loading saves other than ones that are from near the start of a new game, typically I use one while still in the LAL prison cell. I have not had any issues with saving, regular, quick and auto all work fine for me. If you have another crash after playing for a little while check the papyrus log, there may be some clues there if it is script related.

Posted

I have issues loading saves other than ones that are from near the start of a new game, typically I use one while still in the LAL prison cell. I have not had any issues with saving, regular, quick and auto all work fine for me. If you have another crash after playing for a little while check the papyrus log, there may be some clues there if it is script related.

 

The Speed and Stability Guide for ENB covers this, and also how to help eliminate what is causing the bad scripts, or how to remove remnants of old mods that may be affecting your current save.

Posted

Actually, I did a fresh install a couple of days ago, loaded my install up with every mod listed in Realvision ENB's suggested mod list, and I'm runing Purevision ENB (Same author and suggested mods, just based on Pure Weathers instead of CoT). I'm at about 168 .esp files, a few of which are semi-script heavy, uGridsToLoad=7

 

I haven't had a CTD yet, since used the preconfigured .ini files on Realvision's page, and followed the Speed and Stability Guide for ENB. 

 

I'm running Mod Organizer. 

 

 

this don't make much sense, the point of mo is to no longer have to reinstall anything

and it's not because you didn't ctd yet you won't ctd later

 

ezOPjyN.jpg

i just alt tab when i quit, so...huge useless papyrus logs (that lead to ram ctd sometimes)

 

 

[04/08/2015 - 06:08:32PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)

[04/08/2015 - 06:08:32PM] Update budget: 1.600000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.600000ms, Load screen budget: 2000.000000ms)

[04/08/2015 - 06:08:32PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)

[04/08/2015 - 06:08:56PM] Cannot open store for class "RSVDisableScript", missing file?

[04/08/2015 - 06:08:58PM] Cannot open store for class "jjnudebombtimer", missing file?

 

that's the only thing i can check, the load of the save

then it's just spamming of

 

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM] Dumping stack 8159266:

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]     Frame count: 0 (Page count: 0)

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]     State: Waiting on other stack for call (Freeze state: Freezing)

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]     Type: Normal

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]     Return register: None

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]     Has stack callback: No

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]     Stack trace:

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]         [ (1818E788)].aaatowHV_ActivationLoot_Perk.Fragment_0() - (requested call)

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]             [param 0]: [ObjectReference < (030038EC)>]

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]             [param 1]: [Actor < (00000014)>

 

until the alt tab, or ctd

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM] Dumping stack 9815869:

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]     Frame count: 1 (Page count: 1)

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]     State: Running (Freeze state: Freezing)

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]     Type: Normal

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]     Return register: 340282346638528860000000000000000000000.000000

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]     Has stack callback: No

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]     Stack trace:

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]         [ (1A038404)].DLC2TribalWerebearScript.OnUpdate() - "DLC2TribalWerebearScript.psc" Line ?

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]             IP: 327    Instruction: 9

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]             [::temp5]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]             [::temp6]: [DLC2TribalWerebearScript < (1A038404)>]

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]             [::temp7]: 340282346638528860000000000000000000000.000000

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]             [::temp8]: 1.000000

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]             [::temp9]: False

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]             [::NoneVar]: None

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM] VM is thawing...

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:38PM] RNPC: Periodic update check.

[04/09/2015 - 03:11:04PM] VM is freezing...

[04/09/2015 - 03:11:04PM] VM is frozen

[04/09/2015 - 03:11:06PM] Log closed

 

 

several hours without ctd, this look good

it's never good

 

 

U9GV3Rd.jpg

 

M1IeiXn.jpg

 

 

maybe it's a draugr that got killed while he was having fun with sofia

maybe it's a real problem

can't do much with a d7bc80d0

 

a skyrim without ctd, this doesn't exist, you can only reduce them, by looking for errors and getting rid of them

and this take a lot of time (at least with mo you only have to do that once)

Posted

What about "I haven't had a CTD yet" doesn't make sense? I'm sure that everyone knows that a game that doesn't CTD AT ALL is impossible, but why go out of your way to post papyrus logs and such to prove that this is the case? 

And the reason for the fresh install was maknig the jump over to MO. I had previously used NMM like a baddie, but I also wasn't experimenting with mods as much as I am now.

My point in that post was: it is possible to get your Skyrim install to a point where you can have a bunch of .esp/.esm files activated and still be stable. Even with heavy script set ups. 

 

3 days and counting, no CTD.
 

Posted

 

Actually, I did a fresh install a couple of days ago, loaded my install up with every mod listed in Realvision ENB's suggested mod list, and I'm runing Purevision ENB (Same author and suggested mods, just based on Pure Weathers instead of CoT). I'm at about 168 .esp files, a few of which are semi-script heavy, uGridsToLoad=7

 

I haven't had a CTD yet, since used the preconfigured .ini files on Realvision's page, and followed the Speed and Stability Guide for ENB. 

 

I'm running Mod Organizer. 

 

 

this don't make much sense, the point of mo is to no longer have to reinstall anything

and it's not because you didn't ctd yet you won't ctd later

 

ezOPjyN.jpg

i just alt tab when i quit, so...huge useless papyrus logs (that lead to ram ctd sometimes)

 

 

[04/08/2015 - 06:08:32PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)

[04/08/2015 - 06:08:32PM] Update budget: 1.600000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.600000ms, Load screen budget: 2000.000000ms)

[04/08/2015 - 06:08:32PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)

[04/08/2015 - 06:08:56PM] Cannot open store for class "RSVDisableScript", missing file?

[04/08/2015 - 06:08:58PM] Cannot open store for class "jjnudebombtimer", missing file?

 

that's the only thing i can check, the load of the save

then it's just spamming of

 

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM] Dumping stack 8159266:

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]     Frame count: 0 (Page count: 0)

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]     State: Waiting on other stack for call (Freeze state: Freezing)

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]     Type: Normal

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]     Return register: None

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]     Has stack callback: No

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]     Stack trace:

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]         [ (1818E788)].aaatowHV_ActivationLoot_Perk.Fragment_0() - (requested call)

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]             [param 0]: [ObjectReference < (030038EC)>]

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]             [param 1]: [Actor < (00000014)>

 

until the alt tab, or ctd

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM] Dumping stack 9815869:

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]     Frame count: 1 (Page count: 1)

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]     State: Running (Freeze state: Freezing)

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]     Type: Normal

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]     Return register: 340282346638528860000000000000000000000.000000

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]     Has stack callback: No

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]     Stack trace:

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]         [ (1A038404)].DLC2TribalWerebearScript.OnUpdate() - "DLC2TribalWerebearScript.psc" Line ?

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]             IP: 327    Instruction: 9

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]             [::temp5]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]             [::temp6]: [DLC2TribalWerebearScript < (1A038404)>]

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]             [::temp7]: 340282346638528860000000000000000000000.000000

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]             [::temp8]: 1.000000

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]             [::temp9]: False

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]             [::NoneVar]: None

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM] VM is thawing...

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:38PM] RNPC: Periodic update check.

[04/09/2015 - 03:11:04PM] VM is freezing...

[04/09/2015 - 03:11:04PM] VM is frozen

[04/09/2015 - 03:11:06PM] Log closed

 

 

several hours without ctd, this look good

it's never good

 

 

U9GV3Rd.jpg

 

M1IeiXn.jpg

 

 

maybe it's a draugr that got killed while he was having fun with sofia

maybe it's a real problem

can't do much with a d7bc80d0

 

a skyrim without ctd, this doesn't exist, you can only reduce them, by looking for errors and getting rid of them

and this take a lot of time (at least with mo you only have to do that once)

 

 

The dump stack errors point to a major problem with scripts, the ones erroring currently may not be the ones that caused the issue but are just collateral damage from the errors.

 

I have very few errors and most every one is from sexlab and mods that use it not always getting along. About a year ago I spent a few weeks going through my core mods, finding what worked and what caused instability, troublemakers were tossed out completely.

 

MO and LOOT are not the miracle cure some make it out to be, I don't use either. I also don't uninstall and reinstall Skyrim regularly (last time was several months ago but was due to a hard drive failure), my ini file is modified to hell and back and there may have been some blood sacrifices along the way. My advice, watch when adding / removing / updating mods for issues, if you are crashing watch your papyrus logs regularly and see if it was something that was changed that is causing the issue.

Posted

 

 

Actually, I did a fresh install a couple of days ago, loaded my install up with every mod listed in Realvision ENB's suggested mod list, and I'm runing Purevision ENB (Same author and suggested mods, just based on Pure Weathers instead of CoT). I'm at about 168 .esp files, a few of which are semi-script heavy, uGridsToLoad=7

 

I haven't had a CTD yet, since used the preconfigured .ini files on Realvision's page, and followed the Speed and Stability Guide for ENB. 

 

I'm running Mod Organizer. 

 

 

this don't make much sense, the point of mo is to no longer have to reinstall anything

and it's not because you didn't ctd yet you won't ctd later

 

ezOPjyN.jpg

i just alt tab when i quit, so...huge useless papyrus logs (that lead to ram ctd sometimes)

 

 

[04/08/2015 - 06:08:32PM] Papyrus log opened (PC)

[04/08/2015 - 06:08:32PM] Update budget: 1.600000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.600000ms, Load screen budget: 2000.000000ms)

[04/08/2015 - 06:08:32PM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)

[04/08/2015 - 06:08:56PM] Cannot open store for class "RSVDisableScript", missing file?

[04/08/2015 - 06:08:58PM] Cannot open store for class "jjnudebombtimer", missing file?

 

that's the only thing i can check, the load of the save

then it's just spamming of

 

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM] Dumping stack 8159266:

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]     Frame count: 0 (Page count: 0)

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]     State: Waiting on other stack for call (Freeze state: Freezing)

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]     Type: Normal

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]     Return register: None

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]     Has stack callback: No

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]     Stack trace:

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]         [ (1818E788)].aaatowHV_ActivationLoot_Perk.Fragment_0() - (requested call)

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]             [param 0]: [ObjectReference < (030038EC)>]

[04/08/2015 - 09:31:18PM]             [param 1]: [Actor < (00000014)>

 

until the alt tab, or ctd

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM] Dumping stack 9815869:

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]     Frame count: 1 (Page count: 1)

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]     State: Running (Freeze state: Freezing)

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]     Type: Normal

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]     Return register: 340282346638528860000000000000000000000.000000

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]     Has stack callback: No

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]     Stack trace:

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]         [ (1A038404)].DLC2TribalWerebearScript.OnUpdate() - "DLC2TribalWerebearScript.psc" Line ?

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]             IP: 327    Instruction: 9

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]             [::temp5]: [Actor < (00000014)>]

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]             [::temp6]: [DLC2TribalWerebearScript < (1A038404)>]

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]             [::temp7]: 340282346638528860000000000000000000000.000000

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]             [::temp8]: 1.000000

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]             [::temp9]: False

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM]             [::NoneVar]: None

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:10PM] VM is thawing...

[04/09/2015 - 03:10:38PM] RNPC: Periodic update check.

[04/09/2015 - 03:11:04PM] VM is freezing...

[04/09/2015 - 03:11:04PM] VM is frozen

[04/09/2015 - 03:11:06PM] Log closed

 

 

several hours without ctd, this look good

it's never good

 

 

U9GV3Rd.jpg

 

M1IeiXn.jpg

 

 

maybe it's a draugr that got killed while he was having fun with sofia

maybe it's a real problem

can't do much with a d7bc80d0

 

a skyrim without ctd, this doesn't exist, you can only reduce them, by looking for errors and getting rid of them

and this take a lot of time (at least with mo you only have to do that once)

 

 

The dump stack errors point to a major problem with scripts, the ones erroring currently may not be the ones that caused the issue but are just collateral damage from the errors.

 

I have very few errors and most every one is from sexlab and mods that use it not always getting along. About a year ago I spent a few weeks going through my core mods, finding what worked and what caused instability, troublemakers were tossed out completely.

 

MO and LOOT are not the miracle cure some make it out to be, I don't use either. I also don't uninstall and reinstall Skyrim regularly (last time was several months ago but was due to a hard drive failure), my ini file is modified to hell and back and there may have been some blood sacrifices along the way. My advice, watch when adding / removing / updating mods for issues, if you are crashing watch your papyrus logs regularly and see if it was something that was changed that is causing the issue.

 

 

Tbh, for me there were two turnons about Mod Organizer.

 

1) I can quickly remove a mod that's causing problems without a fear of it accidentally removing something that another mod is dependant on.

 

2) I ... like to shuffle characters. I probably have 6 different play through's I'm working on, only one of which started with the vanilla start, and the others are appx level 40 and haven't even touched Helgen yet. Each character has her own set of armor mods, sexlab mods active, body textures, all that. The switch to MO made managing that a lot easier, and has made my game much more stable, since I don't have to swap out mods all the time. Once I set it all up? it's done and I can have fun without CTD's! :D

Posted

 

The dump stack errors point to a major problem with scripts, the ones erroring currently may not be the ones that caused the issue but are just collateral damage from the errors.

 

 

that one is just tow harvest spamming the log... every 0.2 seconds about what it is doing...

 

there's some from enhanced blood too when it load a blood effect

from wet&cold when a npc put on a cloak

from requiem and its req_active_masseffect that get updated

 

etc etc, those lines are useless

Posted

That is also overloading papyrus and likely causing your crashes.

 

when papyrus is on, and you load your save, it take more seconds to get everything load, that's about it (first load only)

 

and it only lead to ram ctd if the log become so big you no longer have enought ram for the game

you forgot to open to menu and left, log get bigger and bigger, game need 5 go there, you have 1.2 go left, once the log is 1.2 go, ram ctd

Posted

Papyrus is the script language used by Skyrim, if it is overloaded and can't process it affects all of your scripts not just the log. The stack dump errors can cause crashes and instability whether or not you have logging turned on or not.

Posted

I'm pretty sure that's why the Speed and Stability Guide suggests doing something like "coc qasmoke", sitting there for awhile, doing a "save mysave" loading it into papyrus util save cleaner, and cleaning your saves every 10-15 hours of play. To get rid of orphaned scripts, and to help analyze scripts that are problematic.

Posted

I cant figure it out; and my paplog is littered with errors(Its honestly insane at this point its like one long error sheet)
So i just clicked uninstall and deleted 22 gb's of merged mods.
Starting completely fresh and hopeing to be done by 10pm tonight

Any suggestions of mods ?

Im going to use realvision mod list to start on textures, then COC around the map and make sure textures are solid first
Then move on to script mods (D.D.) series
Then on to world additions (Encounters / Leveling mods)
Then move onto Weapons swords items   and clothing.

Cracking open the first 6pack right now; here we go.

So, any suggestions as to things i should add or take into account as a i do a completely fresh install of 22gb worth of content ?

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