fishburger67 Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 I've been having crash issues with my Skyrim all week. Any saves I load in which I am in the main exterior space (main world) crashes after loading. I have asked all around aside from here, and they either don't reply or don't know. So here's some other things I've discovered, hopefully some of you peeps and come up with some theories that could save me from a great amount of stress...? So here is a discovery log: I use MO I am above the mod limit for TESV consisting of 255 esp/esm. I have around 300 mods 3 Merged mods (shown below) Apocalypse Magic Mod and two patches that go with it Personalized Music preferred esps Ton of Armor mods that use the CBBE Body/Bodyslide with HDT some don't) Used the disable technique to find the conflicting mods, constantly starting up mod game. Found a few mods that were messing with the crashes: Children Animation Path No Snow Under Roof Merged mod of all my installed armors, most for CBBE HDT/Bodyslide Merged mod of "Extra Encounters (Main mod with required patches) Started working a few more times and put some other mods on a A bit later I discovered a few armor mods (NOT included in the Merged Armor mod) I recently installed started crashing exterior saves: Lady Bat and Wjun Mix for CBBE Midnight Breed Outfit for CBBE After disabling/deleting a few more mods, worked, activated a few armor mods, crashed, disabled those mods again, still crashed, even when starting a new game with Alternate start it crashed, like what?? I know it's kind of confusing but honestly I don't know how else to describe it. I will look at it again later today, and if any replies I'll keep you guys updated so I can possibly get this fixed. In the meantime, please post any ideas or questions to make finding a solution easier for me and you, this is my last resort before having to install all over again OR have to do a Skyrim run in which I have ONLY interior saves, that's no fun. Thank you! Can you make a new game and save it, then, from that point on, load the new game, and then load the save you really want to run? If that is the case, the problem you describe is a pretty common one.
howls Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 I've been having crash issues with my Skyrim all week. Any saves I load in which I am in the main exterior space (main world) crashes after loading. I have asked all around aside from here, and they either don't reply or don't know. So here's some other things I've discovered, hopefully some of you peeps and come up with some theories that could save me from a great amount of stress...? So here is a discovery log: I use MO I am above the mod limit for TESV consisting of 255 esp/esm. I have around 300 mods 3 Merged mods (shown below) Apocalypse Magic Mod and two patches that go with it Personalized Music preferred esps Ton of Armor mods that use the CBBE Body/Bodyslide with HDT some don't) Used the disable technique to find the conflicting mods, constantly starting up mod game. Found a few mods that were messing with the crashes: Children Animation Path No Snow Under Roof Merged mod of all my installed armors, most for CBBE HDT/Bodyslide Merged mod of "Extra Encounters (Main mod with required patches) Started working a few more times and put some other mods on a A bit later I discovered a few armor mods (NOT included in the Merged Armor mod) I recently installed started crashing exterior saves: Lady Bat and Wjun Mix for CBBE Midnight Breed Outfit for CBBE After disabling/deleting a few more mods, worked, activated a few armor mods, crashed, disabled those mods again, still crashed, even when starting a new game with Alternate start it crashed, like what?? I know it's kind of confusing but honestly I don't know how else to describe it. I will look at it again later today, and if any replies I'll keep you guys updated so I can possibly get this fixed. In the meantime, please post any ideas or questions to make finding a solution easier for me and you, this is my last resort before having to install all over again OR have to do a Skyrim run in which I have ONLY interior saves, that's no fun. Thank you! Can you make a new game and save it, then, from that point on, load the new game, and then load the save you really want to run? If that is the case, the problem you describe is a pretty common one. Well my main point is that I can't load exterior saves anything interior loads fine. As for your idea (I use Alternate Start so it starts you off in a locked dungeon), I tried starting a new game, but the crash persisted after exiting Racemenu. :\
fishburger67 Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 So I guess I don't understand. If you use Alternate Start, it is starting in an interior cell. However, you say that it crashes as soon as you exit Racemenu. If that is the case, you care crashing in an interior cell too. Is this an accurate depiction of what you are experiencing?
Sacremas Posted March 11, 2015 Author Posted March 11, 2015 Okay; want you to try swapping profiles first, make a new profile with just alternate start and the bare necessities (racemenu, skyui, unoffical paches), and then get to an exterior, will it still crash then? Fastest method will probably use LAL to begin as camping in the woods. Once we know if you still crash outside or not we can start narrowing down things. I also want you to activate Papyrus logging then go out, and post the log. Also what's your uGridstoLoad on, if they are higher than 5 that may be your problem. Also please post your Mod Organizer's generated list of mods that you are using, you can find this under Profiles. After that maybe we can help out, but for now I just don't have enough information to go on.
howls Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Thank you both for the replies. Alright... Fishburger - It only seems to be that one interior though... I can't tell if any others do it besides that and a few inns I started out with LAL (Riverwood and Falkreath) it's really odd that I would just randomly crash even though it's interior, which brings me to a thought... I have a few NPC mods installed, for example: Creepy Zombies, adds zombies to deep forests, plains, and from what I saw, dungeons which is not mentioned in the mod's description by the way. But if that was the issue, how would I have loaded without having to disable those extra NPC kind of mods in the first place, know what I mean? It's weird. Sacremas - Got it, new profile, loaded fine, no issues. I activated the mods you told me and it was good. I even exited out of my game, loaded it from the main menu like I was doing before, and it was fine. So this pretty much tells us that it is a mod, right?
Sacremas Posted March 12, 2015 Author Posted March 12, 2015 Indeed it does, which is what we were looking for, otherwise it could have been a ugrids corruption or something corrupted with your game messign up the Skyrim exterior worldspace. Okay please post the various mods and load order files in Mod Organizer, I'll go through them and tell you if I spot anything. Easiest however is if you can remember when this happened, what was the last mod you added? If it was new mods you can find this out by opening the Mods directory in explorer and sort eveything by date, then you'll see what you added last and could have caused this. Try removing those one by one and going in and checking. Also just to be sure, you have installed eveything through Mod Organizer, even SKSE plugins?
howls Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 Hard to say when, I made the old dumb action of installing a ton of mods and testing it later, mainly because I was trying to make my game VERY similar to ning999's over on twitch tv. SKSE plug-ins were usually added manually, only plugin I see there now is Fuz Ro Doh, the other was installed through MO, called Memory Blocks Log. As for the latest mod I installed. It was Change Follower Outfits. I'll add his and my mod lists in just a sec, and mine to this post in just a moment, I'll make sure to make mine neat and easy to look over... check back in a little bit, getting late so if need be check back whenever you can I suppose. What I was thinking, just cause I'm in the ready position to do so, maybe go through the mods on this new profile? Being that it's a brand new save entirely with little mods installed, I dunno. Edit: I activated those 2 armor mods I said were making the game crash in the new profile... loaded exterior and it worked fine just a heads up. Might be conflicts or something? FILES HERE (.RTF): Howl's Modlist.rtf Ning's Modlist.rtf
fishburger67 Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 Hard to say when, I made the old dumb action of installing a ton of mods and testing it later, mainly because I was trying to make my game VERY similar to ning999's over on twitch tv. SKSE plug-ins were usually added manually, only plugin I see there now is Fuz Ro Doh, the other was installed through MO, called Memory Blocks Log. As for the latest mod I installed. It was Change Follower Outfits. I'll add his and my mod lists in just a sec, and mine to this post in just a moment, I'll make sure to make mine neat and easy to look over... check back in a little bit, getting late so if need be check back whenever you can I suppose. What I was thinking, just cause I'm in the ready position to do so, maybe go through the mods on this new profile? Being that it's a brand new save entirely with little mods installed, I dunno. Edit: I activated those 2 armor mods I said were making the game crash in the new profile... loaded exterior and it worked fine just a heads up. Might be conflicts or something? FILES HERE: Howl's Modlist.docx Ning's Modlist.docx Better if you make your attachments rtf files. Everyone has a reader for that. docx is a word specific file format and lots of people don't use word.
Guest Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 I actually need help I'm new to modding, so I was playing around with my NMM I installed mods but they didn't seem to work, I was trying some Sex stuff but my character & the npc had "sex" but there wasn't an animation. Also the NPCs were doing the awkward T-stance and my character did too whenever I would walk/run forward the sprint worked fine tho. I tried out some Hentai spells & the Hentai creature & my character were both arousel LVL 40 & no sex happened (I set the arousel cap very low btw) but it did work in the noon. But when I came home I fiddled with new mods & I came across the T-stance & no sex problem So I figured I might as well start from square1 so I uninstalked my mods in NMM including FNIS, SKSE, SKYui, UNPB REDUX, Sexlab, basically all my mods were uninstalled thru NMM. I reinstalled some mods strictly for my Character creation like XPMS27sheleton, unpb redux, apachii hair. now everytine I boot up I get a CTD almost instantly or some error code Know any solutions ? ~ thanks
Mimirue17 Posted March 12, 2015 Posted March 12, 2015 I actually need help I'm new to modding, so I was playing around with my NMM I installed mods but they didn't seem to work, I was trying some Sex stuff but my character & the npc had "sex" but there wasn't an animation. Also the NPCs were doing the awkward T-stance and my character did too whenever I would walk/run forward the sprint worked fine tho. I tried out some Hentai spells & the Hentai creature & my character were both arousel LVL 40 & no sex happened (I set the arousel cap very low btw) but it did work in the noon. But when I came home I fiddled with new mods & I came across the T-stance & no sex problem So I figured I might as well start from square1 so I uninstalked my mods in NMM including FNIS, SKSE, SKYui, UNPB REDUX, Sexlab, basically all my mods were uninstalled thru NMM. I reinstalled some mods strictly for my Character creation like XPMS27sheleton, unpb redux, apachii hair. now everytine I boot up I get a CTD almost instantly or some error code Know any solutions ? ~ thanks coolguy, I would really just go back to the first page and start over. go step by step (do not install any sexlab items until you are done with this) until you feel comfortable that your install is stable. Install the mods in order as suggested, and I think you will solve almost all the issues. I would also encourage you to switch to MO instead of NMM. It will take a little time to figure it out (I know I just did it myself) but in the end your game will be a lot more stable. And sadly, it might require a re download of the game but sometimes its the only way to fix really badly overwritten game files. There are people here who can help you a lot more then I can, but this guide really is awesome if you start from a clean game and turn it into a thing of modded glory BTW, watch the linked videos, they are awesome and you will learn a ton about modding.
fishburger67 Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 I actually need help I'm new to modding, so I was playing around with my NMM I installed mods but they didn't seem to work, I was trying some Sex stuff but my character & the npc had "sex" but there wasn't an animation. Also the NPCs were doing the awkward T-stance and my character did too whenever I would walk/run forward the sprint worked fine tho. I tried out some Hentai spells & the Hentai creature & my character were both arousel LVL 40 & no sex happened (I set the arousel cap very low btw) but it did work in the noon. But when I came home I fiddled with new mods & I came across the T-stance & no sex problem So I figured I might as well start from square1 so I uninstalked my mods in NMM including FNIS, SKSE, SKYui, UNPB REDUX, Sexlab, basically all my mods were uninstalled thru NMM. I reinstalled some mods strictly for my Character creation like XPMS27sheleton, unpb redux, apachii hair. now everytine I boot up I get a CTD almost instantly or some error code Know any solutions ? ~ thanks Download and run Tes5Edit on your entire load order. You are likely missing a requirement. Also, for the animaiton issue, make sure you run FNIS every time you install or uninstall a mod that has animaitons.
howls Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 FILES HERE (.RTF): Howl's Modlist.rtf Ning's Modlist.rtf Just a heads up I re uploaded the files as .rtf in the previous post, but here they are again in case you guys missed it.
lordhalmar Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Nexus has blocked Ewi's High Skyprefs for now. any alternates? Getting tired of not being able to load a save so seeing if this helps. After reading this i was surprized. I was under the impression that i was never to TESedit ANY of the base skyrim files include the DLC
Sacremas Posted March 13, 2015 Author Posted March 13, 2015 You always need to TES5Edit your base skyrim files to remove dirty edits, or you'll have tons of problems when you start modding. This goes for Oblivion, Fallout 3 and New Vegas as well. I probably shouldn't be doing this but here's EWI's skyrim prefs, note that these are for ugrids 7 as that's what I'm using and I don't have the 5 version. Remember to edit in your heigth/with.
lordhalmar Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Thx much also btw all i did was add the SKSE file and clean the base files and now less problems. Before i had to be in an internal cell to load anything. Loaded no issue into the skyrim world map. Thank you for this guide.
Sacremas Posted March 13, 2015 Author Posted March 13, 2015 On the list of things I really didn't think would work but which actually did; open console, click a mannequin, type "sexchange", equip female armor, and it'll show your sexy armor just fine. Learn something new every day.
zenna11 Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 hello i get dc everytime i start new game and try open door on loadingscrean my papyrus look ok but this got lots of error hdtSkyrimMemPatch [03/13/15 12:19:07]INFO: Queue OK [03/13/15 12:19:07]INFO: SKSEPlugin_Load [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Fatal error occured [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Code : 0xc0000005 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Flag : 0x00000000 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Module : xŻ¸ [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Address : 0x00a50a3d [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Module Address : 0x31854764 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: AccessViolation, try to read 0x4582fffd failed [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Call Stack (Skyrim ignored the frame pointer register (ebp) so it may not correct) : [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: TESV : 0x00a50a3d [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: TESV : 0x00a512a1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Thread local Havok memory heap: [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Temp memory allocator:0x01bb1904 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Temp memory allocated:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Temp memory in used:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Temp memory available:0 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Temp memory total available:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Temp memory largest block:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Heap memory allocator:0x01bb1904 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Heap memory allocated:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Heap memory in used:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Heap memory available:0 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Heap memory total available:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Heap memory largest block:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Debug memory allocator:0x01bb1904 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Debug memory allocated:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Debug memory in used:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Debug memory available:0 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Debug memory total available:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Debug memory largest block:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Solver memory allocator:0x01bb1904 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Solver memory allocated:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Solver memory in used:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Solver memory available:0 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Solver memory total available:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Solver memory largest block:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Minidump saved in hdtSkyrimMemPatch.dmp any idea? something wrong with HDT ?
zenna11 Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 hello i get dc everytime i start new game and try open door on loadingscrean my papyrus look ok but this got lots of error hdtSkyrimMemPatch [03/13/15 12:19:07]INFO: Queue OK [03/13/15 12:19:07]INFO: SKSEPlugin_Load [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Fatal error occured [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Code : 0xc0000005 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Flag : 0x00000000 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Module : xŻ¸ [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Address : 0x00a50a3d [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Module Address : 0x31854764 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: AccessViolation, try to read 0x4582fffd failed [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Call Stack (Skyrim ignored the frame pointer register (ebp) so it may not correct) : [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: TESV : 0x00a50a3d [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: TESV : 0x00a512a1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Thread local Havok memory heap: [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Temp memory allocator:0x01bb1904 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Temp memory allocated:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Temp memory in used:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Temp memory available:0 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Temp memory total available:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Temp memory largest block:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Heap memory allocator:0x01bb1904 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Heap memory allocated:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Heap memory in used:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Heap memory available:0 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Heap memory total available:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Heap memory largest block:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Debug memory allocator:0x01bb1904 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Debug memory allocated:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Debug memory in used:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Debug memory available:0 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Debug memory total available:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Debug memory largest block:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Solver memory allocator:0x01bb1904 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Solver memory allocated:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Solver memory in used:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Solver memory available:0 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Solver memory total available:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Solver memory largest block:-1 [03/13/15 12:20:20]ERROR: Minidump saved in hdtSkyrimMemPatch.dmp any idea? something wrong with HDT ? Ok looks like i know what its wrong i remove all my custom armor and clothes replacer and no dc
Sacremas Posted March 13, 2015 Author Posted March 13, 2015 I'm glad you tracked them down because I have no idea what those errors are. What's in your SKSE/Plugins directory? Also what armor was it that you had the errors on? HDT High Heel enabled one? I'm fairly certain I don't get those errors.
zenna11 Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 I'm glad you tracked them down because I have no idea what those errors are. What's in your SKSE/Plugins directory? Also what armor was it that you had the errors on? HDT High Heel enabled one? I'm fairly certain I don't get those errors. This log was from hdtSkyrimMemPatch and armor was RemodelArmor for SevenNBase Bombshell HDT Tbbp i use i have instaled new XP 23 skeleton and HDT and i just have Unoficial skyrim patches ,racemenu and AS that all sry for bad english
Sacremas Posted March 13, 2015 Author Posted March 13, 2015 It's fine. Try upgrading skeletons to this and see if that fixes it; http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25971-xp32-maximum-skeleton-extended/
zenna11 Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 It's fine. Try upgrading skeletons to this and see if that fixes it; http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25971-xp32-maximum-skeleton-extended/ i use 2.50 but i delete this armor i instal bicost i was lazy to conver my own but i do now clothing all done now just armor btw very good tutorial my game its stable like rock now thank you
zenna11 Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Ok back to dc looks like i got memory problem and any1 know what its it ? hdtPhysicsExtensions [03/13/15 18:01:38]INFO: Queue OK [03/13/15 18:01:38]INFO: System run with 8 threads [03/13/15 18:01:38]INFO: Havok simulated world created. [03/13/15 18:01:38]INFO: SKSEPlugin_Load [03/13/15 18:01:51]INFO: Physics system loaded : Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtm.xml [03/13/15 18:01:51]INFO: Physics system loaded : skse\plugins\hdtm.xml [03/13/15 18:01:51]INFO: Physics system loaded : SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml [03/13/15 18:01:53]INFO: Cell changed... [03/13/15 18:01:53]INFO: Add character 0001aa62 [03/13/15 18:01:53]INFO: Add character 0001aa64 [03/13/15 18:01:53]INFO: Add character 18940ddf [03/13/15 18:01:53]INFO: Add character 00000014
zenna11 Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Ok back to dc looks like i got memory problem and any1 know what its it ? hdtPhysicsExtensions [03/13/15 18:01:38]INFO: Queue OK [03/13/15 18:01:38]INFO: System run with 8 threads [03/13/15 18:01:38]INFO: Havok simulated world created. [03/13/15 18:01:38]INFO: SKSEPlugin_Load [03/13/15 18:01:51]INFO: Physics system loaded : Data\SKSE\Plugins\hdtm.xml [03/13/15 18:01:51]INFO: Physics system loaded : skse\plugins\hdtm.xml [03/13/15 18:01:51]INFO: Physics system loaded : SKSE\Plugins\hdtPhysicsExtensionsDefaultBBP.xml [03/13/15 18:01:53]INFO: Cell changed... [03/13/15 18:01:53]INFO: Add character 0001aa62 [03/13/15 18:01:53]INFO: Add character 0001aa64 [03/13/15 18:01:53]INFO: Add character 18940ddf [03/13/15 18:01:53]INFO: Add character 00000014 i got problem with setup memory logging of blocks enabled logging max values only Timer disabled Block1 Block2 256MB 256MB 85 8 85 8 85 9 85 10 85 11 85 12 85 13 85 14 85 15 85 16 85 17 85 18 85 19 85 20 85 21 85 22 85 23 85 24 85 25 85 26 85 27 85 28 85 29 85 30 85 31 85 32 85 33 85 34 85 35 85 36 85 37 85 38 85 39 85 40 85 41 85 42 85 43 85 44 85 45 85 46 85 47 85 48 85 49 85 50 85 51 85 52 85 53 85 54 85 55 85 56 85 57 85 58 85 59 85 60 85 61 85 62 85 63 85 64 85 65 85 66 85 67 85 68 85 69 85 70 85 71 85 72 85 73 85 74 85 75 85 76 85 77 85 78 85 79 85 80 85 81 85 82 85 83 85 84 85 85 85 86 85 87 85 88 85 89 85 90 85 91 85 92 85 93 85 94 85 95 85 96 85 97 85 98 85 99 85 100 85 101 85 102 85 103 85 104 85 105 85 106 85 107 85 108 85 109 85 110 85 111 85 112 85 113 85 114 85 115 85 116 85 117 88 117 120 117 120 118 120 119 120 120 120 121 121 121 122 121 123 121 124 121 125 121 126 121 127 121 127 122 128 122 129 122 130 122 131 122 132 122 133 122 134 122 135 122 136 122 137 122 137 123 138 123 139 123 140 123 140 124 141 124 142 124 143 124 144 124 145 124 146 124 147 124 148 124 149 124 150 124 156 124 165 124 i edid ini and alweys got 256
Sacremas Posted March 13, 2015 Author Posted March 13, 2015 Sorry, HDT magic is above my paygrade, I don't entirely know how that works, you're better off posting on the Nexus HDT site and see if anyone knows. For the other, make sure you make your SKSE.ini and put in the numbers I said, much less crashes then. If you crash from main menu with 1024/365 try setting it down to 768/256 instead.
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