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Ok so I decided to finally give Oblivion another go and well.. I've solved most of my previous crash issues as well as getting steam to finally work with OBSE but well.. After starting a new character right after the cinematic the game constantly ctd's -.- So after hours of frustration I come to you guys for some guidance on this possible load order issue. When I run TESedit everything loads correctly with no errors so I'm completely lost... Anyways here is the load order.


Oblivion XP.esp
Cernasite - DragonEyes.esp
All Spells Avalible for Enchanting and Spell Making.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Cities SKINGRAD.esp
Better Cities BRAVIL.esp
Better Cities ANVIL.esp
Better Cities CHORROL.esp
Better Cities CHEYDINHAL.esp
Better Cities LEYAWIIN.esp
Better Cities BRUMA.esp
Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp
Better Cities IC Arboretum.esp
Better Cities IC Arcane University.esp
Better Cities IC Arena.esp
Better Cities IC Elven Gardens.esp
Better Cities IC Green Emperor Way.esp
Better Cities IC Market.esp
Better Cities IC Prison.esp
Better Cities IC Talos Plaza.esp
Better Cities IC Temple.esp
Better Cities IC Waterfront.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Cities IC Waterfront FPS Patch.esp
Better Cities - All Natural.esp
Better Cities - Dark Brotherhood Chronicles.esp
Better Cities - Skingrad Outer District.esp
Better Cities - CUO Bravil Patch.esp
Better Cities - Ruined Tail's Tale.esp
Better Cities - CUO Chorrol Patch.esp
Better Cities - Knightly Armory.esp
Better Cities - Knights of the Nine.esp
TrailsOfCyrodiil-BC patch.esp
Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp
Better Cities - Alternative Start Arrive by Ship.esp
Better Cities - MOBS.esp
Better Cities - Origin of the Mages Guild.esp
Better Cities - Reclaiming Sancre Tor.esp
Better Cities - CUO Leyawiin Patch.esp
Better Cities - CUO Bruma Patch.esp
Better Cities - Skyrim Nords.esp
Better Cities - Storms & Sound.esp
Better Cities - Thievery.esp
Better Cities - TIE Restricted Area.esp
Better Cities - Valley View Estate.esp
Better Cities - VHBloodlines.esp
Better Cities - Werewolf-Legends.esp
Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
Better Imperial City - Blood & Mud patch.esp
Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp
Better Cities - COBL.esp
Better Cities - Vvardenfell Imports.esp
Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
Better Cities - Oblivion Collectible Cards.esp
Better Cities - Open Better Cities.esp
Oblivifall - Losing My Religion BC Bravil.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Better Magic is supposed to be above bashed patch, not sure why its where it is >.>.. 
After looking over this load order I think I screwed up posting it =.= 



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I'm hoping you screwed up your posting, either that or you screwed up installing things.


Why do you have the following patches if you don't have the mods installed:

Better Cities - The Lost Spires.esp
Better Cities - COBL.
Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp
Better Cities - Reclaiming Sancre Tor.esp


Where is oblivion.esm??????


Why do you have two versions of the same thing installed:

I recommend you either post your full load order so we can help you, or clearing everything out and installing things one at a time and thoroughly paying attention to the installation instructions.  You'll save yourself a lot of hair pulling frustration!  
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to post your full LO, in spoilers, open wrye bash, select mods tab, right click the file header, select "list mods"


a small window opens, hit ctrl+a, right click, copy, paste in your post. You will get something like this


Active Mod Files:


00  Oblivion.esm01  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.34]03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]04  Harvest[Containers].esm05  Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esm06  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm07  Hemingweys Capes Improved.esm  [Version 3.0b]08  CLS-Craftybits.esm09  A_Bloody_Mess.esm0A  Lovers with PK.esm0B  TamagoClub.esm0C  HiyokoClub.esm0D  LoversCreature.esm0E  Fundament.esm  [Version ision]0F  Oblivion Sexualized Monsters.esm10  CM Partners.esm11  CustomSpellIcons.esm12  HorseCombatMaster.esm13  ShieldOnBack.esm  [Version 3.4.1]14  Oblivifall Master File.esm  [Version 1.2]15  Children.esm16  Children Shivering Isles.esm17  Teenagers.esm18  Teenagers Shivering Isles.esm19  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.5.1]++  UOPS Additional Changes.esp1A  DLCShiveringIsles.esp1B  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.5]++  USIPS Additional Changes.esp1C  OblivionReloaded.esp1D  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.35]1E  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.35]1F  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1]20  Immersive Interiors - Bravil.esp  [Version 2.01]21  Immersive Interiors - Landscape Addon.esp22  Better Bell Sounds.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp23  Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.1]24  Better Rainbows.esp25  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.35]26  WindowLightingSystem.esp27  AliveWaters.esp28  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp29  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp2A  Ayleid Loot EXtension.esp++  Dancer_Undress0_6-10194.esp2B  DialogTweaks.esp  [Version 1.1]2C  Hot Coffee and Tea-Base.esp2D  Menu and Camera Toggler.esp  [Version 1.1]2E  More Effective Enchantments.esp++  NPCs Eat More.esp2F  See You Sleep DLL.esp30  ArenaTower.esp31  Camping.esp**  Camping - Natural Interiors Patch.esp32  QQuix - Rock, rock, rock your ship - V3.esp33  Ravens and Seagulls.esp++  Regrowing Nirnroot - Dissappear Reappear.esp  [Version 1.01]**  OSM-All Genders.esp++  shiveringislesdoorusable.esp34  Slof's Oblivion Pillow Book.esp35  TreasureChest.esp36  TreasureChest - ALEX.esp37  Wyverex's - Runes.esp38  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.4.3]39  Container Menu Support.esp3A  Display Stats.esp  [Version 2.0.1]3B  Get Wet.esp3C  kuerteeSittableRocks.esp3D  sycNiceToMeetYou.esp3E  Quest Log Manager.esp  [Version 1.3.2]3F  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.9.3]40  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.9.3]41  RM Hot Potion and Poison.esp  [Version 1.0]42  Enhanced Hotkeys.esp  [Version 2.3.1]43  devsmods darkbrotherhoodarmorreplacer.esp**  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp++  MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp44  Children Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]45  Children Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]46  Teenagers Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]47  Teenagers Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]48  ExtraNPCs.esp49  Alluring Books.esp++  Better Unique Items.esp4A  CL_Tools_and_Clutter.esp4B  Immersive Weapons.esp4C  Items.esp4D  Slof's Horses Base.esp4E  Slof's Extra Horses.esp4F  Wolf Diversity.esp++  RealBanditsAndHighwaymen.esp50  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]51  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]++  CB-Cobl_Glue.esp52  Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp53  Alluring Wine Bottles.esp54  Hemingweys Capes Improved.esp  [Version 3.0b]++  Harvest[Containers] - Vanilla - Ore Respawn.esp++  Harvest[Containers] - SI - Ore Respawn.esp++  Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esp55  Cyrodiil transportation network 1.3.esp56  _NDibellaBT.esp57  Adult_BookStore.esp58  Cheydinhal Land Texture Fix.esp  [Version 2.0]59  Better Abandoned House.esp  [Version 2.0]5A  Better Camps.esp5B  Better Benirus Manor - Helping Hands.esp  [Version 2.01]5C  HackdirtTheDeepOnes.esp5D  BrotherhoodRenewed.esp  [Version 1.1.2]5E  delivery_job.esp  [Version 1.2x]5F  Fighters Guild Quests.esp60  OblivionFarmer'sMarket3NoHungry.esp61  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.61]62  LostSwordOfTheAylied.esp++  LostSwordOfTheAylied_delayer.esp63  Mages Guild Quests.esp64  MrPwner's Marihuana Mod.esp65  MTCExpandedVillages.esp66  Naughty_Joana_01.esp67  Quest-Related Dungeons Marked.esp68  Region Revive - Lake Rumare.esp69  Secret Sanctuary v1.esp6A  Slof's Oblivion Goth Shop.esp6B  SMChorrol.esp  [Version 1.0]6C  Stonehenge.esp6D  TeddyChest.esp6E  TheElderCouncil.esp6F  Tombstones-beta.esp70  Trails Of Cyrodiil Merged Vanilla.esp71  za_bankmod.esp72  AFK_Weye.esp  [Version 2.32.Non-COBL]73  House of Healing at Weye.esp74  WeyeOverhaulModsPatch.esp75  Leyawiin Bridge.esp76  Wayshrines Enhanced.esp77  MannimarcoRevisited.esp78  Roads of Cyrodiil.esp  [Version 1.0]79  ROC+Fighters Guild Quests.esp++  ROC+Hemingweys Capes Addon.esp7A  MTCEV-RoC Patch.esp7B  Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp  [Version 1.43]7C  HackdirtAlive.esp7D  HentaiMania2.esp7E  ROC+LtPD Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]7F  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Real Lava 1.3.esp80  A Bloody Mess - Bloody Fights.esp++  A Bloody Mess - Armor Shader Supression.esp++  A Bloody Mess - Arena Wash Basin.esp81  Cliff's Shacks Basements.esp  [Version 1.0]82  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 5.3.2]83  DD_JailShackles.esp84  DS Storage Sacks.esp  [Version 1.3]85  EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp86  ExpandedGreetings.esp  [Version 1.0]++  Goblin Shamans Respawn.esp87  GuildAdvancement.esp88  ImprovedWaterfrontShips.esp89  kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp8A  kuerteeSilentEquipUnequipClothing.esp++  LustyArgonianMaidContinued.esp++  master_essentials.esp++  more books teach.esp++  More Lockpicks.esp++  Nobody Loves Me.esp8B  P1DKeyChainSI Merged.esp8C  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]8D  Realistic Hatred.esp8E  kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.esp8F  Rowboats.esp90  CLS-Craftybits.esp++  CLS-Craftybits_A_Bloody_Mess-Glue.esp  [Version 1.1]91  CLS-Craftybits_A_Bloody_Mess-Glue-Ragplacer.esp++  CB-Weights_Hard.esp92  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 5.4.3]93  MYOverhaulV2.esp94  Basic Primary Needs.esp  [Version 6.3]95  Basic Personal Hygiene.esp  [Version 3.0]96  Basic Physical Activities.esp  [Version 1.3]++  No Vampirism.esp97  FuroGeneratorTrap.esp98  HumantouchNPC.esp99  MadCompanionshipSpells.esp  [Version 2.5]9A  MCS extension.esp9B  SetBody.esp9C  TrophySkulls.esp9D  TweakPack.esp9E  RshAlchemy.esp9F  RshAlchemyRecipes.espA0  ZumbsLockpickingMod - OBSE.espA1  ZumbsLockpickingMod - Hide Difficulty Addon.esp++  GuildBetrayal.espA2  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]++  MagesGuildSkillRewards.espA3  AltVillageStart.espA4  Blood Raven.espA5  Lindum-BloodRaven Patch.espA6  nGCD.espA7  zzEDialog.esp**  Cava Obscura - Cyrodiil.esp**  Cava Obscura - SI.esp**  Cava Obscura - Filter Patch For Mods.espA8  CM Partners.espA9  Elves Of Lineage II.espAA  _Prison_Mod_(TLB) v0.3b.espAB  full arena.espAC  Glowing Respawning Varla & Welkynd Stones 14-28 Days.espAD  LFox MG Talk Fix.espAE  trainergreed.espAF  Kanin Race.espB0  X.Races.Comp.espB1  CM Partners NPC.espB2  CM Partners More NPCs.espB3  CM Partners Extra NPCs.espB4  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.0]B5  Birthsigns Expanded.espB6  Syc_LongerDaysShorterNights.esp**  GW71_Life_Detect.espB7  qazFingerSnap.esp++  A Bloody Mess_Fix.esp++  ActivatedArmorALL.esp++  HealthFood-2050.esp++  Icon Overhaul.esp++  LessRain.esp++  MD No more Sleeper Agents.esp++  Nirnroot Tweak-2033.esp++  DBED - 7 murders Level delay.esp  [Version 1.0]**  ROC Standard Road Record.espB8  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.35]**  YoungerNPCs.espB9  NMC_Anvil_LOW.espBA  NMC_Bravil_LOW.espBB  NMC_Bruma_LOW.espBC  NMC_Cheydinhal_LOW.espBD  NMC_Chorrol_LOW.espBE  NMC_Imp-City_LOW.espBF  NMC_Kvatch_LOW.espC0  NMC_Leyawiin_LOW.espC1  NMC_Skingrad_LOW.espC2  NMC_WILD_DEFAULT.espC3  GBRsAntiCTD.espC4  Bashed Patch, 0.espC5  Crowded Cities 15.espC6  NBB.espC7  TamagoNews.espC8  TamagoTopic.espC9  LoversTamagoClub.espCA  LoversHiyokoShooter.espCB  LoversEncounter.espCC  HiyokoQuestTarget.espCD  HiyokoFutureDream.esp  [Version y]CE  HiyokoGenerator.espCF  HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.espD0  TamagoSetBody.espD1  LoversAphrodisia.espD2  LoversAphrodisiaHUD.espD3  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.espD4  LoversHooker.esp  [Version 2.2]D5  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.espD6  LoversVoiceSSPplus.espD7  LoversRaperS.espD8  LoversStalkerMN.espD9  LoversStalkerM.espDA  LoversBed.espDB  PlayerSlaveEncounters.esp  [Version 0.694]DC  PSE-SeeYouSleepDLL.espDD  PSE-HackdirtAlive-Patch.espDE  LoversPayBandit.espDF  PSE-PayBandit-Patch.espE0  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 96v5]E1  LoversBitch.espE2  PSELoversBitchPatch.espE3  LoversCreature.espE4  Lovers with PK Extender.esp  [Version 2.4.3]E5  LoversSoundCreature.esp  [Version 0.1.0]E6  LoversSpermSplashEx.espE7  LoversSlaveTrader.espE8  LSTBravilUnderground.espE9  LSTaddonInH.espEA  LoversImmoralSisters.espEB  LoversTrueCrimeEx.espEC  LoversGGBlackmail.espED  LoversProstitute.espEE  LoversSituations.espEF  LoversCalm.espF0  LoversGalgatBeastRape.espF1  LoversLight.espF2  LoversChorus.espF3  LoversAchievments.espF4  LoversSoundVolumeDown.espF5  Slof's Dogs.espF6  LandMagicPatch.espF7  DynamicLeveledLists.espF8  LoversMB2.espF9  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.espFA  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp


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Ah thank you for that fienyx was trying to export my load order through OMM obviously that didn't work haha; however I managed to figure out my issue. I completely botched installing better cities, once I turned everything from it off I could create a character with no issues. Thanks any way guys!

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