slipofmind Posted November 28, 2014 Posted November 28, 2014 ok I am having trouble with sexout and TTW. Everything works prefect except the animations. Characters undress and stand noise to noise with each other, and at the end redress. Most of what i have been reading says this is a load order problem. I have checked, rechecked and check again.. my load order is good. can someone point me in the direction i need to look next? Ty
RitualClarity Posted November 28, 2014 Posted November 28, 2014 Check the NVSE version and the Extender.
slipofmind Posted November 28, 2014 Author Posted November 28, 2014 NVSE 4.5 b7 with NVSE Extender (aka NX) 15 which is the set up i had before TTW install worked fine... should i try the 4.6b1 bata? update: Tried 4.6b1.. still same problem
RitualClarity Posted November 28, 2014 Posted November 28, 2014 I am not sure as I haven't used Sexout for months. However at least verify the install and make sure it is installed correctly.
slipofmind Posted November 28, 2014 Author Posted November 28, 2014 thanks for trying.. install is good. Everything works perfect. the only thing that's not working are the animation. had this setup of sex out working less then a week ago. Did a clean install so I could do a TTW setup. using the same sexout mods / files that I had in the last install. now I am still in the DC wasteland. I had this problem last time I did a TTW setup. when i got to NV things worked fine. have yet to get that far in this setup to check that. do I need to install FOSE and its Extender in my FO3 folder? or maybe in my NV folders to get the animations to work in DC?
panthercom Posted November 28, 2014 Posted November 28, 2014 I use TTW with Sexout with no problems. The beginning of my load order looks like this: FalloutNV.esmDeadMoney.esmHonestHearts.esmOldWorldBlues.esmLonesomeRoad.esmGunRunnersArsenal.esmCaravanPack.esmClassicPack.esmMercenaryPack.esmTribalPack.esmFallout3.esmAnchorage.esmThePitt.esmBrokenSteel.esmPointLookout.esmZeta.esmTaleOfTwoWastelands.esmSexout.esmSexoutCommonResources.esmSexoutSlavery.esmTTWFixes.esmTTWInteriors_Core.esmTTWInteriorsProject_Combo.esmSexoutStore.esm I'm using Sex Assault, Sexout Sex, Soliciting and TTW Quest Overhaul and the latest stable release of Sexout NG, SCR and NVSE 4_5 Beta 7
slipofmind Posted November 28, 2014 Author Posted November 28, 2014 Thanks will try that load order and see if it helps. Update: that load order was of no help. going to delete all sexout files and try a new insnstall
slipofmind Posted November 28, 2014 Author Posted November 28, 2014 Update: just reinstalled sexout mods / files and i am getting the same thing, attached current load order. installed with BnB BodyExtender Compatability Skeleton 1_2-45229-1-20 nvse_4_6_beta1 NVSE Extender v15 load order.txt
shardoom Posted November 28, 2014 Posted November 28, 2014 The anims not playing could be the knockdown idle incompatibility? I've not faced it myself but from what I've read it comes from mods that add in new anims, affecting some of the older ones. I don't recognise all of your mods so it's just a guess to be honest. Also if you're going to run with the pre-order packs, they should really be listed before any of the FO3 .esms.
slipofmind Posted November 28, 2014 Author Posted November 28, 2014 thanks will look into that.. just dumped my game .. working on a new install. will see what happens... just found out I was not suppose to clean the the FO3 and FONV master files before installing TTW.. dont think that would effect sexout. but still figured better to start over.
shardoom Posted November 28, 2014 Posted November 28, 2014 You really shouldn't touch ANY of the official esm's. Ever.
slipofmind Posted November 28, 2014 Author Posted November 28, 2014 lol then why does 90% of the stuff i read tell you to clean the dirty edits from the DLC files
slipofmind Posted November 28, 2014 Author Posted November 28, 2014 I talked with the guys at TTW. They say thier mod was made to run with out cleaning the dirty edits. so that is the way i will run it. but that still goes back to the question. why does 90% of the stuff you read tell you to clean the dirty edits from the DLC files? at this point it seems to be standard practice. You say its not. why?
shardoom Posted November 28, 2014 Posted November 28, 2014 Cleaning mods is standard practice, I do it with everything. Official esm's are what other people base their mods on though, even the dirty edits of the official esm's. Bugfixes are notorious for this, the dirty edits in the officials don't do any harm as they are, however they can do harm if removed and something relies on them. As I said though, your call. I'm not going to argue about it. lol
slipofmind Posted November 29, 2014 Author Posted November 29, 2014 thanks for the reply. lol and not arguing just asking. dont know until you ask.
Halstrom Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 Cleaning mods is standard practice, I do it with everything. Official esm's are what other people base their mods on though, even the dirty edits of the official esm's. Bugfixes are notorious for this, the dirty edits in the officials don't do any harm as they are, however they can do harm if removed and something relies on them. As I said though, your call. I'm not going to argue about it. lol Normally that is the case but I suspect as there are things that can't be done any other way than dirty edits and TTW is such a huge change on the Vanilla Fallout that cleaning any of it's edits would be a bad idea. Otherwise the TTW team would not have left them there if they had an option to do it any other way to fuse the FO3 world into the NV engine
slipofmind Posted November 29, 2014 Author Posted November 29, 2014 Ok found the problem.. For any one running TTW and Sexout. If you also use Vault 101 Revisited make sure you load it BEFORE your sexout mods. something in that mod stops the sexout animations from playing. What ever it is FNVEdit does not catch it. PointLookout.esm Zeta.esm TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm TTWFixes.esm Vault 101 Revisited.esm Sexout.esm SexoutSlavery.esm SexoutCommonResources.esm
shardoom Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 Cleaning mods is standard practice, I do it with everything. Official esm's are what other people base their mods on though, even the dirty edits of the official esm's. Bugfixes are notorious for this, the dirty edits in the officials don't do any harm as they are, however they can do harm if removed and something relies on them. As I said though, your call. I'm not going to argue about it. lol Normally that is the case but I suspect as there are things that can't be done any other way than dirty edits and TTW is such a huge change on the Vanilla Fallout that cleaning any of it's edits would be a bad idea. Otherwise the TTW team would not have left them there if they had an option to do it any other way to fuse the FO3 world into the NV engine Not sure if you've misunderstood my post or are backing it up. I wasn't saying cleaning the esm's is a good thing. TJ, Luthien & Roy etc (TTW team) are all against cleaning the official esm's and I understand why. lol @slipofmind, It's likely an altered animation in that mod, as I said earlier. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/16277-sexoutng-framework-installation-guide-for-beginners/?do=findComment&comment=365615The post linked here shows how to find and fix said error.
Halstrom Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 Not sure if you've misunderstood my post or are backing it up. I wasn't saying cleaning the esm's is a good thing. TJ, Luthien & Roy etc (TTW team) are all against cleaning the official esm's and I understand why. lol Sorry yeah didn't read your post properly
jaam Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 You should clean all the DLC and (update.esm), but the catch is you need at least xEdit 3.0.32 for FO3 and at least 3.0.33 for FNV. And if using TTW, wait until you have it installed before cleaning.
Demonwise Posted November 30, 2014 Posted November 30, 2014 So actually I am having the same problem. In my case however not only do the animations not start but, in fact, there is no indication of sexout initiating any form of sexual encounter. Dialog sex, assault sex, random sex, nothing. So thinking maybe this was an issue with the TTW part of the game (being inside vault 101 at the start of a new game) I loaded a save from before I installed TTW and when everything was running just fine. Nothing, problem persists. I recall at one point opening the console and it saying something about actor A, B, and C being 0000000 and it was giving an error because of that. I have made sure that I have the newest version of both NVSE and NVSE Extender and I am running the TTW alpha version 2.7.2. EDIT: Ok managed to track down that console error admist all the sexout spunk stuff. It says... NGSAN (12): Aborting due to 2.0 NGSAN (12): A is no name (0000000) NGSAN (12): B is no name (0000000) NGSAN (12): C is no name (0000000) Not sure if my load order is correct. I kind of just let BOSS do the work and pray for success. In either case I will append my load order: [X] FalloutNV.esm [X] DeadMoney.esm [X] HonestHearts.esm [X] OldWorldBlues.esm [X] LonesomeRoad.esm [X] GunRunnersArsenal.esm [X] Fallout3.esm [X] Anchorage.esm [X] ThePitt.esm [X] BrokenSteel.esm [X] PointLookout.esm [X] Zeta.esm [X] TaleOfTwoWastelands.esm [X] IWS-Core.esm [X] CFWNV.esm [X] Momod.esm [X] More Perks.esm [X] NevadaSkies.esm [X] Project Nevada - Core.esm [X] Project Nevada - Equipment.esm [X] Project Nevada - Extra Options.esm [X] ClassicPack.esm [X] MercenaryPack.esm [X] TribalPack.esm [X] CaravanPack.esm [X] Sexout.esm [X] SexoutCommonResources.esm [X] SexoutPregnancyV3.esm [X] msexBase.esm [X] MikotoBeauty.esm [ ] SexoutLegion.esm [X] SexoutOffSpring.esm [X] CoitoErgoSum.esm [X] FalloutTTWquestoverhaul.esp [X] SexoutSlavery.esm [X] SexoutStore.esm [X] Lings.esm [X] Project Nevada - Rebalance.esp [X] Project Nevada - Cyberware.esp [X] NVWillow.esp [X] SexoutDRTL.esm [X] NCR CF - Sexout.esp [X] CASM.esp [X] The Mod Configuration Menu.esp [X] A Better Cass.esp [X] SexoutLust - anyHUD.esp [X] A Better Veronica.esp [X] AWSW.esp [ ] Barrett 98B.esp [ ] Prospector Bartop Dancer.esp [X] Monster Mod Wasteland Edition.esp [X] populatedcasino.esp [ ] Dalls_Birds_Nest.esp [X] Project Nevada - Cyberware Additions.esp [X] Project Nevada - Rebalance Complete.esp [X] Project Nevada - All DLC.esp [X] SexoutSpunk.esp [X] ExtendedNVRadio.esp [X] Improved Sound FX.esp [X] Improved Sound FX - Weapon Sharing Fix.esp [X] Improved Sound FX - DM.esp [X] Improved Sound FX - HH.esp [X] Improved Sound FX - HH Sharing Fix.esp [X] Improved Sound FX - OWB Sharing Fix.esp [X] Improved Sound FX - LR Sharing Fix.esp [X] Improved Sound FX - GRA.esp [X] More Perks Update.esp [X] Animated Prostitution.esp [X] IWS-Core-Patrols.esp [X] IWS-Core-Guards.esp [X] IWS-Core-Civilians.esp [X] IWS-DM.esp [X] IWS-HH.esp [X] IWS-OWB.esp [X] IWS-LR.esp [X] CFW-DLC.esp [ ] BodyJewelry.esp [X] bzArmour.esp [X] bzBodySuits.esp [X] My Cloth Collection NV.esp [X] OCD-Cass outfits.esp [ ] Body by Race.esp [X] LingsPrettyThings.esp [X] SexoutSex.esp [ ] SexoutNCR.esp [ ] SexoutKings.esp [ ] SexoutFiends.esp [ ] SunnyCompanion.esp [X] UnlimitedCompanions.esp [ ] NevadaSkies - Ultimate DLC Edition.esp [X] Vurt's WFO.esp [X] MoonShadowRace.esp [X] MojaveDelight.esp [X] MikotoBeauty.esp [ ] SexoutBreeder.esp [X] MojaveDelighted.esp [X] Omegared99 - Enb Transparency Fix.esp [X] SexoutSoliciting.esp [X] SexoutWillow.esp [ ] Kaw'sBodyJewelryExpanded.esp [X] Modified Weapons.esp [X] SexoutRapeGame.esp [X] Sexout- CES.esp [ ] SexoutPowderGangers.esp [X] SexoutStraponSex.esp [ ] My Custom Willow.esp [X] sleep_on_back_sexy.esp [ ] NVWillow-Mikotos.esp [ ] NVWillow-Lings.esp [X] SmallerTalk.esp [X] My Cloth Collection NV Conversion Expansion.esp [X] SexoutSexAssault.esp [X] Unique Raider Bodies.esp [ ] delilah.esp [X] SexoutClothingEval.esp [X] Zan_AutoPurge_SmartAgro_NV.esp [X] NevadaSkies - Basic Edition.esp [ ] SexoutSCRDebug.esp [X] NevadaSkies - TTW Edition.esp [X] Body by Race-LIGHT.esp [ ] SexoutPregDebug.esp [X] SexoutPositioning.esp [X] Pregnancy 3MP0B4 Override.esp [X] Nevada Skies - Winter Edition.esp [X] Neck-id Slaves.esp [X] CES - Beauty Mod.esp [X] SexoutRapist.esp [ ] Slave In Pose NV Edition.esp [X] SexoutKhans.esp [X] SexoutWorkingGirl.esp [X] PrnOut.esp [X] msexVeronica.esp [X] SexoutDRTLEx.esp [X] SexoutBangatron.esp [X] TTW_AnchorageCustomization.esp [X] SexoutTTWEncounters.esp [X] SexoutZAZ.esp
jaam Posted November 30, 2014 Posted November 30, 2014 Look in ..\Data\SexoutNGDocs\Sexout Abort Codes.txt for 2.0 Whichever mod you use to start sex did not set any actor for the act . I don't remember that issue.
Demonwise Posted November 30, 2014 Posted November 30, 2014 Look in ..\Data\SexoutNGDocs\Sexout Abort Codes.txt for 2.0 Whichever mod you use to start sex did not set any actor for the act . I don't remember that issue. Ok well then here is the problem, either Sexout is broken, the hole framework, or TTW has broken Sexout. I say this because you mention "whichever mod..." but it doesn't matter if it is sexout assault, sexout rape key, sexout sex, or sexout tryout because none of them will result in actual sexual interaction. In a way it is sort of hilarious because I can do the sexout stuff for TTW like tell the overlord of vault 101, "hey if I let you bang me will you give me your keys, passwords, and let me excape?" and he is like "sure honey why not" and then... nothing... he just walks away. I'm sitting here yelling at my screen, "COME BACK HERE AND FUCK ME YOU FUCKER!!!" but no he just walks away and later says, "best to give yourself up and come quietly."
shardoom Posted November 30, 2014 Posted November 30, 2014 Sexout works perfectly in TTW, however it is not recommended to begin using TTW on an existing playthrough. Nor is it suggested to activate mods until you leave vault 101. (unless they have been specifically designed and rigorously tested to work within vault 101) This is true even of vanilla FO3.
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