Mythradyre Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Exactly as the title puts, my Skyrim is crashing after the Bethesda logo. Some of my active mods:FNIS Behavior V5_2 -- ALWAYS necessary-11811-5-2FNIS Spells V5_0_1 -- ADD-ON for the spells -11811-5-0-1 Groovtama's XPMS Extended-26800-2-14papyrusutilv28 RaceMenuPluginRepair-26800-1SexCropSexCropV1aSexlab College Days Winterhold 3.7SexLab Miscellaneous Features_110SexLab Romance V1-0-6SexLab_Aroused_v20140124SexLab_LoversComfort_v20131230SexLab_Update_v150_to_v159cSexLabFramework.v159cSexLabMatchMaker.Rev7SharedSeranaDialogue_version1dot1SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon - Fair Skin Complexion patch BSOS - B3lisario UNP Addon - Mature Skin patchSOS - B3lisario UNP Addon - Navetsea's CBBE patchSOS - B3lisario UNP Addon - no balls v0.8SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon v0.9SOS - Equipable Schlong - no balls - slot60 v0.3SOS - Equipable Schlong - no balls v0.3SOS - Equipable Schlong - slot60 v0.3SOS - Equipable Schlong v0.3SOS - Schlong Controller v0.2SOS - Schlongs of Skyrim - 2.05.034SOS - Schlongs of Skyrim - Light - 1.04SpousesEnhanced_version1dot41SpousesEnhancedSerana_version1dot4UNP BASE Main body V1dot2-6709ZazAnimationPack_Main_V0600ZazAnimationPack_Patch_V0601ZazAnimationPack_Textures_V0600I am trying to figure out if some of these mods are incompatible with one another and if so, then that may be the issue of the crash. The crashing didn't happen until after I loaded those mods into NMMÂ Link to comment
Uncle64 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Your load order it wrong. install Loot and let it sort your load order. Â Link to comment
afz53fu Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I would check to make sure you don't have any missing masters and then run loot to make sure everything is in order. Get rid of mods you are not using, unless you have a reason to hold onto them. Even if you remove them from your NMM install they will still be in your NMM download folder, if you decide you want them again. Link to comment
Mythradyre Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 Your load order it wrong. install Loot and let it sort your load order.   I would check to make sure you don't have any missing masters and then run loot to make sure everything is in order. Get rid of mods you are not using, unless you have a reason to hold onto them. Even if you remove them from your NMM install they will still be in your NMM download folder, if you decide you want them again.   Followed both of your advices and I got the game running again but after I load a game it crashes again. I used LOOT and figured I had some mods needing to be cleaned from TESEdit as well as some mods requiring another step. But when ever I launch TESedit and clean the mods, then run LOOT again, I get the message details on some of the mods needings to be cleaned from TESEdit Link to comment
afz53fu Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 I don't know if loot checks if they have been cleaned or not, it may just be reporting that it is a known file that needs cleaned. Link to comment
Ashal Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 99.9999% of the time crashing on game startup before the menu ever appears is the result of missing a master file dependency for one of your mods. Aka not reading the instructions/requirements for one of the mods you've installed. Link to comment
TnTTnT Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 You may want to remove some redundant mods too.  SexCrop ---> Maybe redundantSexCropV1a  SexLab Miscellaneous Features_110  ---> I think this mod is already outdated  SexLab_Update_v150_to_v159c ---> RedundantSexLabFramework.v159c  SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon - Fair Skin Complexion patch B ---> Maybe redundantSOS - B3lisario UNP Addon - Mature Skin patchSOS - B3lisario UNP Addon - Navetsea's CBBE patch  SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon - no balls v0.8 ---> Highly redundant, pick oneSOS - B3lisario UNP Addon v0.9SOS - Equipable Schlong - no balls - slot60 v0.3SOS - Equipable Schlong - no balls v0.3SOS - Equipable Schlong - slot60 v0.3SOS - Equipable Schlong v0.3  SOS - Schlongs of Skyrim - 2.05.034 ---> Redundant, pick oneSOS - Schlongs of Skyrim - Light - 1.04  Link to comment
Mythradyre Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 You may want to remove some redundant mods too.  SexCrop ---> Maybe redundant SexCropV1a  SexLab Miscellaneous Features_110  ---> I think this mod is already outdated  SexLab_Update_v150_to_v159c ---> Redundant SexLabFramework.v159c  SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon - Fair Skin Complexion patch B ---> Maybe redundant SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon - Mature Skin patch SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon - Navetsea's CBBE patch  SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon - no balls v0.8 ---> Highly redundant, pick one SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon v0.9 SOS - Equipable Schlong - no balls - slot60 v0.3 SOS - Equipable Schlong - no balls v0.3 SOS - Equipable Schlong - slot60 v0.3 SOS - Equipable Schlong v0.3  SOS - Schlongs of Skyrim - 2.05.034 ---> Redundant, pick one SOS - Schlongs of Skyrim - Light - 1.04  Thank you, I deleted the redundant files, but the game still crashes. Going to go over the files I didn't uninstall to see their requirements again. Link to comment
germ Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Don't use NMM, if you must use a mod installer use mod organizer. And don't trust LOOT or BOSS to automaically sort your load order out for you, because they won't. Use TES5 EDIT, it will show you what's in conflict and exactly where it's in conflict and you can create patches, etc etc. LOOT and BOSS just create baselines, they're specially ineffective if you have a large load order.( And never actually put things where they should be. Use RLO as an example, RLO has a specific load order and needs to be at the bottom of the load in order to work correcty. Niether boss or LOOT does it.) Link to comment
TnTTnT Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Use TES5Edit to check which mod cause the CTD. Simply start TES5Edit and let it load all available mods, it will stop when error found. Link to comment
Mythradyre Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 [00:16] Background Loader: [sOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp] Adding master "Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm" [00:16] Background Loader: [schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm] Loading file [00:16] Background Loader: Fatal: <EOSError: System Error.  Code: 2. The system cannot find the file specified> [00:25] Background Loader: finished  No idea what this means. That and my system is telling me I need "Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm" or my game will crash Link to comment
Uncle64 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 You can use NMM as you like. It do work fine whit Loot/Wryebash/MO. The trick whit NMM is that you need to install your mod the proper order, you cant throw them in, some files needs to be overwrite.  My self install whit NMM sort whit LOOT and fine tune whit WryeBash since that program can do things that not LOOT/NMM cant do.  SO in your loadorder you must install your masters your DLC, patches for them. In whit  SexLabFramework.v159c SOS - Schlongs of Skyrim - 2.05.034 ---> Redundant, pick oneSOS - Schlongs of Skyrim - Light - 1.04 Those are base since they have scrips for other mods that uses them.  You need Papyrus utility for the scripts to work, you cant install that before any SOS mod. After those you can start to install any mod that alter your skin/armours.  As some other says YOU NEED TO READ THE NOTES ABOUT THE MODS.  That I did see of your load order before I did go to work was one nightmare. It simply cant work. Link to comment
Uncle64 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 One more thing do you have Skyrim patched to the newest version? If not some mods simply will not work. Link to comment
Mythradyre Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 Issue Update:I am checking all of my steps, now that I have clean masters TESS Edit told me to clean, deselected/uninstall mods I rarely use, used Loot to organized my mods and tried out Mod Organizer. My game doesn't crash but is on the loading screen with the music playing in the background after starting a new game. The PapyrusUtil error message no longer shows up since I installed as well. Link to comment
Uncle64 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Loot/Mo cant sort some mods in correct order. You need to do that manually. You need to check what mod that needs to be before the other mod. MO can help you whit that. Â You can export your loadorder to one text file and post it here. Instead of dumps. You can do that in NMM/MO. Or you can find it in. Â c:\users\"profilename"\appdata\local\skyrim\ Â Link to comment
Mythradyre Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 Current Active mods and in their newer load order.CurrentActiveMods.txt Link to comment
TnTTnT Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 OK, I think your problem is not from SOS anymore.  However, just FYI I marked plugins that should be picked in color.  Yellow = SOS Full and its plugins Light blue = SOS Light Red = Can work with either SOS Full or Light  Pick one from each group.  -------- Select only one per SOS Full/Light you pick --------------------- SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon - Fair Skin Complexion patch BSOS - B3lisario UNP Addon - Mature Skin patchSOS - B3lisario UNP Addon - Navetsea's CBBE patch SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon - no balls v0.8SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon v0.9  SOS - Equipable Schlong - no balls - slot60 v0.3SOS - Equipable Schlong - no balls v0.3 -> My pickSOS - Equipable Schlong - slot60 v0.3SOS - Equipable Schlong v0.3 -------------------- Select only one Full or Light --------------------------- SOS - Schlongs of Skyrim - 2.05.034SOS - Schlongs of Skyrim - Light - 1.04 -> My pick Link to comment
Uncle64 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 What Aroused do you use? You should use this http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1421-sexlab-aroused-redux/ Â And follow TnTTnT suggestion. You should also check that you dont have 2 or more mods that do similar things. Â Link to comment
Mythradyre Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 Thanks TnTnT. I'm in class now but will follow your advice when I get home and give an update then. Link to comment
Mart0206 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 99.9999% of the time crashing on game startup before the menu ever appears is the result of missing a master file dependency for one of your mods. Aka not reading the instructions/requirements for one of the mods you've installed.  This!  The best for that load order is to run TESEDIT. And start by installing not every mod at once, start with the *.esm files. Install them (like SoS, Sexlab, etc. -- don´t forget FNIS) first. Read the manuels and run TESEDIT to be sure. Then start with grafical mods, test your game, then go one with body files like UNP or whatever you prefare, and install animation mods using frameworks last (don´t forget to run FNIS), and the very last step, install the correct skeleton files. If you recieve a CTD while or after Bethesda Logo appears, as Ashal said, a dependency is missing.  For example you installed a mod changing stuff from dawnguard, but without having dawnguard installed.  i hope that helps you a little. ^^ Link to comment
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