XDA Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 Heyo o/You've been good at helping me before with Skyrim. So I figured you could do it again with Oblivion...I've installed quite a few LoversPK mods, and atm, I'm getting a runtime error and CTD ingame.. I've got alternative start (the one where you start on a ship) and i'm just standing in the cabin doing some settings... At some point, I will get a runtime error and a CTD. Happens every time, at aprox. the same point in time.It's proberly something to do with my load order, though I have been looking around to sort out my load order, looking at these topics: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/?p=100862) http://www.loverslab.com/topic/28162-newbies-5-simple-ways-to-avoid-most-crashes-and-bugs/Here's my current load-order: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 TamagoClub.esm 02 HiyokoClub.esm 03 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 04 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33] 05 x117race.esm 06 Chanpon.esm 07 Lovers with PK.esm 08 LoversCreature.esm 09 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0A DLCHorseArmor.esp 0B DLCOrrery.esp 0C DLCVileLair.esp 0D DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 0E DLCSpellTomes.esp ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 0F DLCThievesDen.esp 10 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33] ++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33] 11 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 12 DLCFrostcrag.esp 13 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp 14 Knights.esp 15 Living Economy.esp 16 Living Economy - Items.esp 17 Cutthroat Merchants.esp 18 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] ++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0] 19 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0] 1A RMDailyIncomeV2.esp 1B TamagoPlayerHUDkil.esp 1C TamagoNews.esp 1D TamagoTopic.esp 1E TamagoDischarge.esp 1F TamagoFertilityClinic.esp 20 LoversTamagoClub.esp 21 LoversEncounter.esp 22 HiyokoGenerator.esp 23 HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp 24 TamagoSetBody.esp 25 LoversSoundCreature.esp [Version 0.1.0] 26 LoversAphrodisia.esp 27 LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp 28 LoversClubCats.esp 29 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 2A LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 2B LoversRaperS.esp 2C LoversJoburg.esp 2D LoversJoburg NoDelay Addon.esp 2E LoversHiyokoShooter.esp 2F LoversImmoralGuards.esp 30 LoversPayBandit.esp 31 666_Modified_Contraception_esp_1_0.esp 32 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96v5] 33 LoversBitch.esp 34 LoversCreature.esp 35 Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3] 36 LoversSkirtFlipper.esp 37 LoversRapeStruggle.esp 38 LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp 39 LoversSlaveTrader.esp 3A LSTBravilUnderground.esp 3B LSTaddonInH.esp 3C LoversImmoralSisters.esp 3D PlayerSlaveEncounters_V0.69.esp 3E PSE-PayBandit-Patch.esp 3F LoversStupidNpc.esp 40 LoversAchievments.esp 41 xlds.esp 42 SetBody.esp 43 DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp ** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp ++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp 44 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp 45 x117race.esp ++ x117Race ENG Race.esp 46 Lop-ears Elf.esp 47 Bashed Patch, 0.esp 48 LoversMB2.esp 49 Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp 4A LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 4B Lovers3dorgasm.esp 4C LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp I'm using OBSE v21.4, Pluggy 132, MenuQue 16b and USV. Any help appreciated! EDIT: I found another topic regarding what seems to be a similar issue, although I'm not using blackmail: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/31987-run-time-error/
movomo Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 Runtime error may be indicating that one of your .dll obse plugins is very angry. Such as pluggy, etc. (provided your vanilla Oblvion runs fine, of course) So, try this. Unload all the obse plugins until you don't get runtime error. If you've deleted every last obse plugin and it CTDs yet, then we'll see about your load order. (your load order is not a happy camper as well, btw. Example load order here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/?p=100862)
XDA Posted July 27, 2014 Author Posted July 27, 2014 Runtime error may be indicating that one of your .dll obse plugins is very angry. Such as pluggy, etc. (provided your vanilla Oblvion runs fine, of course) So, try this. Unload all the obse plugins until you don't get runtime error. If you've deleted every last obse plugin and it CTDs yet, then we'll see about your load order. (your load order is not a happy camper as well, btw. Example load order here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/?p=100862) I'll see what the plugins bring me. I know my load order is not the best, but atm I've got a problem with wrye, where it tells me that I can't move a mod above its master... So I have to use the redate feature instead to sort my mods, and it takes forever.
myuhinny Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 Isn't Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp and Lovers3dorgasm.esp basically the same thing and do the same thing? If so get rid of one as if they do the same thing they can cause problems in game. Move the .esp's using OBMM (Oblivion mod manager) instead of trying to move them in Wrye bash then keep checking with wrye bash to see if anything is out of whack after each move till you get them all sorted out.
XDA Posted July 27, 2014 Author Posted July 27, 2014 Runtime error may be indicating that one of your .dll obse plugins is very angry. Such as pluggy, etc. (provided your vanilla Oblvion runs fine, of course) So, try this. Unload all the obse plugins until you don't get runtime error. If you've deleted every last obse plugin and it CTDs yet, then we'll see about your load order. (your load order is not a happy camper as well, btw. Example load order here: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/4487-please-read-before-posting-here/?p=100862) Okay, so it seems to be a problem with Pluggy 132 and MenuQue 16b. I'm using USV, and it runs fine by itself without the others. (Obviously I'm now getting errors from mods ingame, telling me I'm missing those plugins). One thing I did notice though... When Pluggy 132 is on, LoversRaperS Wappy 1.71 displays a line of text three times in a row and doesn't go away. (It displays the name of the mod, and the version). EDIT: It's actually MenuQue Causing this! Isn't Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp and Lovers3dorgasm.esp basically the same thing and do the same thing? If so get rid of one as if they do the same thing they can cause problems in game. Move the .esp's using OBMM (Oblivion mod manager) instead of trying to move them in Wrye bash then keep checking with wrye bash to see if anything is out of whack after each move till you get them all sorted out. They are coming from the same mod I believe.
XDA Posted July 27, 2014 Author Posted July 27, 2014 I figured out what causes the crash..It's LoversAphrodisia, (sadly :/ )I've deactivated it for now, but I know I've gotten it to work in the past, so would like to find a way to make that happen again.Futhermore I'd like some guidence on my load-order to get an as stable build as possible (lol, ikr?.).EDIT:. I placed them just before setbody.esp and it now works.. xDEDIT2:. So It started happening again... still aphrodisia causing this...
movomo Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 AphrodisiaHUD requires pluggy and its HUD functionality enabled. Make sure you have renamed the plugin file to "OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_HUD.dll". I'm using both of pluggy 132 and menuque 16b just fine.
varenne Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 Isn't Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp and Lovers3dorgasm.esp basically the same thing and do the same thing? If so get rid of one as if they do the same thing they can cause problems in game. Move the .esp's using OBMM (Oblivion mod manager) instead of trying to move them in Wrye bash then keep checking with wrye bash to see if anything is out of whack after each move till you get them all sorted out. Based on memory Lovers3dorgasm.esp provides the 3dorgasm functionality to Lovers MODs, while Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp provides it specifically for MB2 when it is installed. This may have changed and been merged into one, not sure on this though.
gregathit Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 Isn't Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp and Lovers3dorgasm.esp basically the same thing and do the same thing? If so get rid of one as if they do the same thing they can cause problems in game. Move the .esp's using OBMM (Oblivion mod manager) instead of trying to move them in Wrye bash then keep checking with wrye bash to see if anything is out of whack after each move till you get them all sorted out. Based on memory Lovers3dorgasm.esp provides the 3dorgasm functionality to Lovers MODs, while Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp provides it specifically for MB2 when it is installed. This may have changed and been merged into one, not sure on this though. Not changed. No one has touched 3d orgasm in a long, long time. Both are still required if you want the effects.
XDA Posted July 28, 2014 Author Posted July 28, 2014 AphrodisiaHUD requires pluggy and its HUD functionality enabled. Make sure you have renamed the plugin file to "OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_HUD.dll". I'm using both of pluggy 132 and menuque 16b just fine. Might be because I'm running and old version of pluggy hud... I forgot that I just have to rename the thing.. I'll see if it works, also my wrye bash works proberly again I do though, have problems with guards attacking anything and anyone trying to do just the slightest... Might be something with load order? Seen others with the same problem. Also, it seems like only dogs have got the right meshes... Horses, deers and the like doesn't... Which should I get?, a bit confused
fejeena Posted July 28, 2014 Posted July 28, 2014 ? "Also, it seems like only dogs have got the right meshes..." ? The creatures: only creatures summoned by the LoversCreatures spell have dick. All original creatures have not dicks ! ! ! LoversCreatures does not add dicks to original creatures ! Your dogs have dicks because you use Lovers Bitch ( adds dicks to all Dogs in game) And some BravilUnderground creatures have dicks, they use the LoversCreatures Meshes. If you want all creatures with dicks use http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/276-creatures-replacers-with-dicks/
XDA Posted July 28, 2014 Author Posted July 28, 2014 I've updated my load-order.. Still not entirely sure.. Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 TamagoClub.esm 02 HiyokoClub.esm 03 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 04 x117race.esm 05 Chanpon.esm 06 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33] 07 Lovers with PK.esm 08 LoversCreature.esm 09 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0A DLCHorseArmor.esp 0B DLCOrrery.esp 0C DLCVileLair.esp 0D DLCMehrunesRazor.esp 0E DLCSpellTomes.esp 0F DLCThievesDen.esp 10 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp 11 DLCFrostcrag.esp 12 Knights.esp 13 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33] ++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33] 14 Living Economy.esp 15 Living Economy - Items.esp 16 Cutthroat Merchants.esp 17 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] ++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0] 18 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0] 19 RMDailyIncomeV2.esp ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 1A Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp 1B TamagoPlayerHUDkil.esp 1C TamagoNews.esp 1D TamagoTopic.esp 1E TamagoDischarge.esp 1F TamagoFertilityClinic.esp 20 LoversTamagoClub.esp 21 LoversHiyokoShooter.esp 22 LoversEncounter.esp 23 HiyokoGenerator.esp 24 HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp 25 TamagoSetBody.esp 26 LoversAphrodisia.esp 27 LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp 28 LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 29 LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 2A LoversRaperSGalgat.esp 2B LoversJoburg.esp 2C LoversJoburg NoDelay Addon.esp 2D LoversPayBandit.esp 2E 666_Modified_Contraception_esp_1_0.esp 2F Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96v5] 30 LoversBitch.esp 31 LoversCreature.esp 32 Lovers with PK Extender.esp [Version 2.4.3] 33 LoversSoundCreature.esp [Version 0.1.0] 34 LoversRapeStruggle.esp 35 LoversSlaveTrader.esp 36 LSTBravilUnderground.esp 37 LSTaddonInH.esp 38 LoversImmoralSisters.esp 39 LoversImmoralGuards.esp 3A PlayerSlaveEncounters_V0.69.esp 3B LoversClubCats.esp 3C LoversSkirtFlipper.esp 3D LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp 3E PSE-PayBandit-Patch.esp 3F LoversStupidNpc.esp 40 LoversStopKillRaper.esp 41 LoversAchievments.esp 42 xlds.esp 43 SetBody.esp 44 DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp ** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp ++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp 45 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp 46 x117race.esp ++ x117Race ENG Race.esp 47 Lop-ears Elf.esp 48 Bashed Patch, 0.esp 49 LoversMB2.esp 4A Lovers3dorgasmMB2.esp 4B LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 4C Lovers3dorgasm.esp 4D LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Updated pluggy aswell and renamed it correctly... Still got the same problem with: 26 LoversAphrodisia.esp27 LoversAphrodisiaHUD.esp
gregathit Posted July 30, 2014 Posted July 30, 2014 Aphrodisia has not been updated in a very, very, very, very long time. It may not work right anymore.
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