manarak Posted July 8, 2014 Posted July 8, 2014 The idea is that the PC could become submissive to an NPC as a sort of quest / progress. It could start out as giving the rape animations and/or enslavement a small chance for the PC to become submissive to their aggressor/master. Upon becoming submissive, the dominant NPC becomes a follower and the PC gets a locked collar on, and the aggressor is renamed to "master + formed name" or "master" + "random name" if the NPC was unnamed, gets essential status and is made of the same level as the PC. The dominant NPC will fight alongside the PC, but will not carry out orders or give access to its inventory. Instead, the dominant NPC (Dom) could sometimes access the PC's inventory to take better weapons or armor from the PC as he sees fit. Upon submission, PC gives all gold to Dom, but gold will still show when dealing with vendors and similar. Dom has got a very huge cock that causes pain during sex. Dom will maintain the slave ring gagged. When coming into situations when the PC needs the ability to talk, such as combat stance, NPC interaction, etc. Dom will take the ringgag off and replace it as soon as the situation is over. When the PC is with Dom, the following things happen: - when sleeping: Dom rapes the PC, the applies devious restraints restraining movement, then the screen blacks out for sleep. Devices are removed in the morning, the Dom rapes the PC again, before replacing the devices with locked chastity devices, ring gag, vibrating plugs, slave boots... - Dom will sometimes rape the PC - Dom will sometimes strip the PC of clothes - Dom will sometimes place slut tattoos on the PC (including "property of" or "owned by", "I love pain", "Slave", "Whore", etc.) - Dom will sometimes make humiliating comments - Dom will sometimes administer Skooma to the PC - Dom will sometimes take the PC to the captured dreams shop to buy new restraints - Dom will sometimes place jewelry on the PC (piercings, nose rings, labia rings, etc.) - when talking with other NPC, Dom would sometimes interrupt and ask if the NPC would like to use the PC for free or for a fee - when talking to innkeepers, Dom will propose to pimp out the PC for customers - when talking to NPC, Dom would sometimes offer to sell the PC. If successful, harsh "reconditioning" happens, everything is reinitialized for the new master (name of Master, level, PC tattoos, etc.) - Dom will order the PC to have sex / blowjob / pussy-lick / arse lick / ball lick other NPC (precise instructions with precise animations) - Dom will go on mini-quests with PC, mostly involving "punishing" former slaves, recapturing slaves, going to some women or men and have the PC service them, picking up slaves somewhere and selling them. For every action Dom wants to do to the PC or order the PC to do, there is a choice of accepting or resisting. If resisted, the action does not take place, instead Dom performs a harsh whipping and rape. Dom loves ass to mouth and when dirty he sees it as a punishment for the slave for not keeping her holes clean at all times. There could be a progression in submission, with every sex act by Dom submission increases with 1 point. 0 - not submitting (normal status, no master) 1 - collared but resisting (1 to 9 points) Dom will rape the PC into submission, bound animations. PC voice is protesting, in pain. When able to speak, PC calls Dom "rapist scum" and other. PC will automatically resist any of Dom's actions/orders. PC is always ringgagged, cuffed, in chastity and plugged (randomly vibrating pussy plug and small buttplug) In-game messages about running away, feeling bound, pained by the foreign object in PC's ass, vibrator driving PC crazy 2 - not resisting but sobbing (10 to 24 points) Same as above, but PC voice is crying/sobbing, running mascara could be great. PC will automatically resist Dom's orders involving third parties, but will have a choice to accept Dom's actions PC is ring gagged, but still cuffed, in chastity and plugged (randomly vibrating pussy plug and medium buttplug) In-game messages about pain in general, pain from the larger buttplug, wondering how long to endure, about being overwhelmed, wondering if accepting Dom's action would easen PC's predicament, vibrator making PC horny 3 - accepting fate (25 to 49 points) Still bound animations, PC voice is gently moaning, no tears. PC has a choice to accept or resist all actions and orders PC is ring gagged,wears restraints (just the collars/cuffs, no chains), chastity (randomly vibrating pussy plug and painful large buttplug), probably has got some jewelry and tattoos by now. In-game messages about enduring sex, just a bad moment to go through, hoping on some external help/event that will set the PC free, disgusted by being ordered to have sex with others, pussy plug making the PC very horny and the PC climaxes against her will. 4 - not too bad after all (50 to 99 points) PC calls Dom "master", PC automatically accepts all actions and orders. Animations now not bound, PC voice same as enjoying sex. PC is ring gagged,wears restraints (just the collars/cuffs, no chains), no chastity (the vibrating pussy plug and large buttplug are worn without belt), probably has got a lot of jewelry and tattoos by now. In-game messages about feeling horny, turned on, feeling at peace when submissive to Dom, resignated to service others so Dom can make a living 5 - getting to enjoy it (100 to 149 points) PC enjoys thoroughly being Dom's slave. PC is ring gagged, now has got the full set of jewelry and tattoos, wears plugs and restraints on own initiative. In-game messages about wanting to stay with Dom, making him happy, pain is awakening The PC, ringagged and unable to speak, will interrupt randomly to take Dom's cock out and suck it. 6 - totally submissive, masochist and sex addict (more than 150 points) PC becomes sex-crazed. When talking to or encountering NPC, the ringgagged PC, unable to speak, will automatically go for NPC's cock and start sucking them off. When able to speak, PC will ask "Master, can I suck Whiterun Guard's cock? I need cum" When able to speak, the PC will beg Dom to fuck the PC, "Master, can you please throat me, I need your cum now" or "Master, please fuck my ass, it feels empty". Dom can sometimes react angry to these repeated requests and will punch and whip the PC, who enjoys it "thank you master", "please more master". At this stage, we could imagine the PC making sub-slaves, i.e. the PC becomes dominant for an NPC and does to them all of the above. Most of the above elements are already in the game, so it's a (very tough) job of combining them and scripting. Some wear and tear system would be nice, especially for visible whip marks, visible blue marks from beatings, as well as the size of pussy, asshole, throat. For maximum enjoyment of this mod, descriptions and comments are crucial, every animation scene and sex act should trigger comments from a large database, for example (snippet of comments on first morning of phase 3, after sex for example). "As in every morning in your new life as Dom's slave, he readies you for the day by putting the now usual restraints on you and shoving in the buttplug. You notice that this time the plug is larger and goes in with more difficulty. You cry as you feel a sharp pain in your anus while Dom pushes it in. You let go a moan when it finally "snaps" in. Your ass is stretched and feels sore. You know you won't be able to remove the plug all day." Then later, in-game: "The large buttplug you are wearing makes you walk differently. It is too large for walking with it between your legs, so you have no other choice than to bend your ass outwards to the back, in a perfect position for getting fucked, if there wasn't already the plug. The high heels help somewhat, but you can't stop thinking everyone will notice your special walk." In fact, I believe not just this mod, but also sexlab needs a massive "apropos" effort. Comments?
Scarlett Posted July 8, 2014 Posted July 8, 2014 This has been suggested many, many times >.> by myself included.
manarak Posted July 8, 2014 Author Posted July 8, 2014 then how come there is not even a WIP yet? how to get started?
D_ManXX2 Posted July 8, 2014 Posted July 8, 2014 then how come there is not even a WIP yet? how to get started? Do you really have to ask that ?? you need people who makes mod to actually like your idea in order to implement, most modders only make mods for stuff they like not because you want this implemented if you want this so badly it will be better to try start something like this yourself..
DeepBlueFrog Posted July 8, 2014 Posted July 8, 2014 then how come there is not even a WIP yet? how to get started? All this is very close to what I aiming for in my rewrite of Sanguine Debauchery +. especially in the Master as Follower section. THAT is your WIP
eflat0 Posted July 8, 2014 Posted July 8, 2014 then how come there is not even a WIP yet? how to get started? All this is very close to what I aiming for in my rewrite of Sanguine Debauchery +. especially in the Master as Follower section. THAT is your WIP Is kind of where I thought it's been heading... What I envisioned though would be a pain-seeking submissive/dominant succubus type which like to dish it out to others below her as well as receive from those above... a kind of bride of sanguine I suppose? lol.
eflat0 Posted July 8, 2014 Posted July 8, 2014 One thing I'm finding with a lot of quested mods are ... you get this power. ability, perk, whatever... and the mod quest is pretty much complete... so is like goes nowhere. So you've a good idea here. trick is to keep it moving even after top rank/lvl whatever is reached.
manarak Posted July 8, 2014 Author Posted July 8, 2014 then how come there is not even a WIP yet? how to get started? All this is very close to what I aiming for in my rewrite of Sanguine Debauchery +. especially in the Master as Follower section. THAT is your WIP Very good news indeed! :cheers: When I wrote up the idea, I was also thinking that there was quite some overlap with SD. Regarding progression, I agree that the slut slave story needs to keep progressing, maybe a good way to do this is to intertwine it with the main plot somehow.
DeepBlueFrog Posted July 8, 2014 Posted July 8, 2014 then how come there is not even a WIP yet? how to get started? All this is very close to what I aiming for in my rewrite of Sanguine Debauchery +. especially in the Master as Follower section. THAT is your WIP Very good news indeed! :cheers: When I wrote up the idea, I was also thinking that there was quite some overlap with SD. Regarding progression, I agree that the slut slave story needs to keep progressing, maybe a good way to do this is to intertwine it with the main plot somehow. You actually gave me some ideas to improve on the experience - do you mind if I reuse some of the ideas above in SD? I was thinking it could be a good option to have a measure of submissiveness to skip ahead some of the stages if you get enslaved back to back. It could have a cooldown so that, after enough time free, you would have to start the process from scratch at the next enslavement. By the way, some of the ideas above sound really cool but are very impractical with the current state of scripting in Skyrim. I have been trying to do things like forcing a mark or changing the slave's appearance by force but the closest I am getting (soon) is to add some dirt, change some basic colors (eyeliner, lips) or force a specific hairstyle (shaved).
manarak Posted July 9, 2014 Author Posted July 9, 2014 You actually gave me some ideas to improve on the experience - do you mind if I reuse some of the ideas above in SD? I was thinking it could be a good option to have a measure of submissiveness to skip ahead some of the stages if you get enslaved back to back. It could have a cooldown so that, after enough time free, you would have to start the process from scratch at the next enslavement. By the way, some of the ideas above sound really cool but are very impractical with the current state of scripting in Skyrim. I have been trying to do things like forcing a mark or changing the slave's appearance by force but the closest I am getting (soon) is to add some dirt, change some basic colors (eyeliner, lips) or force a specific hairstyle (shaved). Go ahead and use anything I have written or will write in the future ! If I see some of it implemented, it will be reward enough Is there a way for me to help you with development? I'm a programmer by trade, although I never touched C. I program for the web using PHP and I read that it's similar to C. I guess one of the problems is actually making all the things happen in the database. Is there some kind of API / function repository where the code for making things happen is already coded? For example, function changehairstyle($id) and the function would do the expected action? Is there a place where I could read about Skyrim scripting? Maybe a function library could be developed for all mods to use. Just thinking...
DocClox Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 That's OK. Skyrim uses something called Papyrus. It's probably closer to Python than anything. Not so hard to learn the language; the class library and the API are what you'll need to get your head around though
DeepBlueFrog Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 Your first stop is the CK editor wiki from Bethesda as a reference and little bits of code. http://www.creationkit.com/ There are many good tutorials on YouTube. Just look for skyrim modding. darkFox127 has a great series to get you started. http://www.darkfox127.co.uk/ But you can find many other great tutorials on just about any aspect of Skyrim modding.Then, the best way into modding is to take a mod you like and try to improve on it. You will learn a lot by trying to dissect an existing mod. I got started by looking at a compilation of TERA Armors to make sure all priests in Skyrim have a special outfit and to remove these armors from random loot and necromancer encounters. There are many libraries - they are in fact all those frameworks you hear about - sexlab, aroused, devious devices, Zaz animation pack and so on.
Mashi Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 That's OK. Skyrim uses something called Papyrus. It's probably closer to Python than anything. Not so hard to learn the language; the class library and the API are what you'll need to get your head around though At least it's not as bad as java. But if the OP knows java or anything close to it they won't have much of a problem.
E_Nigma Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 then how come there is not even a WIP yet? how to get started? ? Slave town and SD just called
manarak Posted July 10, 2014 Author Posted July 10, 2014 That's OK. Skyrim uses something called Papyrus. It's probably closer to Python than anything. Not so hard to learn the language; the class library and the API are what you'll need to get your head around though At least it's not as bad as java. But if the OP knows java or anything close to it they won't have much of a problem. Just say no to java. I'm not object-oriented, rather very procedural. I'll try to have a look
eflat0 Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Pretty much one of the kind of mods I expected to find when I came looking here at the resources. It's actually quite strange there are no basic mods fall suite given sl, DD and zaz. Look at SD+ for now... Angrims is interesting but short. Slavetown looks promising if it eventually entails being on either end.
eflat0 Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 That's OK. Skyrim uses something called Papyrus. It's probably closer to Python than anything. Not so hard to learn the language; the class library and the API are what you'll need to get your head around though At least it's not as bad as java. But if the OP knows java or anything close to it they won't have much of a problem. Just say no to java. I'm not object-oriented, rather very procedural. I'll try to have a look Lol,,, I spent many a year in interfaces. java's not bad... have to say I loved older procedural languages too, but then again I grew up on assemblers, writing compilers and drivers way back when. But ya, I;ve not really looked at papyrus much (only in a hacking debugging sense;)... kind of reminds me of python some, if I get too bored maybe delve into scripts.
manarak Posted July 11, 2014 Author Posted July 11, 2014 That's OK. Skyrim uses something called Papyrus. It's probably closer to Python than anything. Not so hard to learn the language; the class library and the API are what you'll need to get your head around though At least it's not as bad as java. But if the OP knows java or anything close to it they won't have much of a problem. Just say no to java. I'm not object-oriented, rather very procedural. I'll try to have a look Lol,,, I spent many a year in interfaces. java's not bad... have to say I loved older procedural languages too, but then again I grew up on assemblers, writing compilers and drivers way back when. But ya, I;ve not really looked at papyrus much (only in a hacking debugging sense;)... kind of reminds me of python some, if I get too bored maybe delve into scripts. Agreed, Java is good for interfaces, because interfaces really receive and send objects/transactions. I hope to soon have the time to look into these papyrus scripts.
manarak Posted July 11, 2014 Author Posted July 11, 2014 That's OK. Skyrim uses something called Papyrus. It's probably closer to Python than anything. Not so hard to learn the language; the class library and the API are what you'll need to get your head around though At least it's not as bad as java. But if the OP knows java or anything close to it they won't have much of a problem. Just say no to java. I'm not object-oriented, rather very procedural. I'll try to have a look Lol,,, I spent many a year in interfaces. java's not bad... have to say I loved older procedural languages too, but then again I grew up on assemblers, writing compilers and drivers way back when. But ya, I;ve not really looked at papyrus much (only in a hacking debugging sense;)... kind of reminds me of python some, if I get too bored maybe delve into scripts. Agreed, Java is good for interfaces, because interfaces really receive and send objects/transactions. I hope to soon have the time to look into these papyrus scripts. Maybe the first thing I will try is to modify lover's victim in the following way: - brawling to 50% health only, so it doesn't conflict with submit, defeat and SD (the mod's not about the brawling experience, is it?) (why doesn't Skyrim vanilla use stamina for brawling damage instead of health anyway??) - maybe some kinky descriptions
eflat0 Posted July 11, 2014 Posted July 11, 2014 That's OK. Skyrim uses something called Papyrus. It's probably closer to Python than anything. Not so hard to learn the language; the class library and the API are what you'll need to get your head around though At least it's not as bad as java. But if the OP knows java or anything close to it they won't have much of a problem. Just say no to java. I'm not object-oriented, rather very procedural. I'll try to have a look Lol,,, I spent many a year in interfaces. java's not bad... have to say I loved older procedural languages too, but then again I grew up on assemblers, writing compilers and drivers way back when. But ya, I;ve not really looked at papyrus much (only in a hacking debugging sense;)... kind of reminds me of python some, if I get too bored maybe delve into scripts. Agreed, Java is good for interfaces, because interfaces really receive and send objects/transactions. I hope to soon have the time to look into these papyrus scripts. Maybe the first thing I will try is to modify lover's victim in the following way: - brawling to 50% health only, so it doesn't conflict with submit, defeat and SD (the mod's not about the brawling experience, is it?) (why doesn't Skyrim vanilla use stamina for brawling damage instead of health anyway??) - maybe some kinky descriptions (why doesn't Skyrim vanilla use stamina for brawling damage instead of health anyway??) I imagine they did it so in lethal combat if the player reduced their stamina - by excessive use of special attacks - they would not perish. Yes lack of stamina in skyrim does not really place a character - pc or npc - in submission. An exhausted character may keep fighting, running, etc... just can't sprint or use power attacks.
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