Submit + Defeat Patch?

[rylasasin]

Is there a patch that patches the two together? I could have sworn there was some sort of patch at some point but I can't find it.

 

I like Submit's features (specifically, the ability to take captured bandits to the guards for a bounty) but I like Defeat's capture system much more (it's much more reliable in my experience)

[Shadowhawk827]

No patch that I know of.  There's a submit + devious devices patch.  Also another version that includes followers in the mix (ss+ss+ff) so they get tied up & such also.

[Laura]

I wish i knew.

That would be great!

[D_ManXX2]

There was never a patch for submit and defeat. you just have to have to know what options to use from 1 one and turn off some off the other. but other then that they should already be compatible together.

[Ashra XIII]

No patch is necessary! Install them both and use the 'auto-submit' from Submit, then configure Defeat to trigger (or possibly trigger) between a health/stamina range above zero, and voila! Both work.

 

For player aggression, you can use both at once by setting them to different hotkeys, though it's a bit redundant.

 

Defeat is the only one of the two mods that handles NPC vs NPC aggression, so no over-lap there!

[dashipper]

I just disable player as a victim in Defeat.  Though I am seriously considering giving Ashra's suggestion a go.

[Ashra XIII]

I'll share the exact setup I use, when not using Sanguine's Debauchery (which is rare because SD+ is awesome).

 

Submit: Toggle auto-submit and death-proof submission on, and leave health at 0%. I turn Creature support to 2 (all eligible creatures!) and usually lower the radius to 250 to help limit crowds who might join in... but of course that's just my preference.

 

Defeat: I set it to 'Both', so health as well as stamina will be checked to trigger the mod. I set Stamina really high, sometimes to 100% because it occurs to me that getting hit from behind should always carry the possibility of being knocked down, and health to 70% or so. Minimum health I set to 10%, so that way if I get real low Defeat won't try to kick in at the same time as Submit. I usually set the chance of Defeat triggering to 8%, as for some reason that has ended up being a happy medium for me where it triggers often enough without happening every dang fight (because remember that every hit causes a check, so even low percentages can get rolled pretty often).

 

And that's it! Like I said, I tend to also include SD+, which I then use (Along with Death Alternative: Your Money Or Your Life) as my alternative to getting killed. Defeat also integrates with DA when it's present, so ignores it's normal settings which makes me a little sad, but I've been thinking about changing Submit into fulfilling Defeat's usual role for me since it has a similar setting to have a 'chance' to trigger instead of always triggering.

 

Hope that inspires someone.

[rylasasin]

I think you guys misunderstand what exactly I want here.... 

 

I don't play as females. Or when I do I don't enable rape content for players.

 

 

What I really want is the ability to tie a person up with defeat (cause as I said it just works way better), then rob them with defeat, then once stripped force them to follow me (via submit) and get a bounty from them.