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Guys stay with Gmail then or outlook there OH SO SAFE ;)

 

Btw i just show this to try not force or its must its up to you or not thats all no big deal don't like it or trust don't USE seems simple enough right?

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Guys stay with Gmail then or outlook there OH SO SAFE ;)

 

Btw i just show this to try not force or its must its up to you or not thats all no big deal don't like it or trust don't USE seems simple enough right?

I'm from the (very) old school of the internet. I have absolutely no expectation of privacy or anonymity. I do my best to protect what I think needs protected, but my email doesn't count -- certainly I care more if my employer sees it than the government.

 

I'm all for pursuing political means to try and reign the NSA in, but I don't have anything worth hiding from them, so I'm not going to switch to some oddball email service for a little additional privacy that I don't need.

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If one can think of a way to encrypt it then one can think of a way to crack it, simple really. nothing is NSA proof they have some of the best hackers working for them.

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If one can think of a way to encrypt it then one can think of a way to crack it, simple really. nothing is NSA proof they have some of the best hackers working for them.

You can't hack math. That was the point of the comic.

 

Maybe one day. Quantum computers theoretically offer promise, but there are algorithms resistant to even that. Some are very old.

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kingkong

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i do not see why you feer so match this surveillance staff !!!

 

   you are watched anyway by your internet browser   by your internet provider     not to forget your bank account (credit card) 

 

    all they want is to have information about you just to milk your money out of your pockets and occasionaly to control you.  

 

   nobody cares if you are at danger or if you are a danger   all they want is to know how match dollars you will provide them.

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pinky6225

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I think every year everyone should celebrate "Talk Like A Terrorist Day", just to flood their data streams

We started doing that back in the late 90s when Echelon came to light.

 

Some of you kids these days... ;)

 

http://www.thing.net/~rdom/ecd/jam.html

 

 

This when we was all putting twenty words at the bottom of every e-mail for no particular reason?

 

As i was only a teen then i recall doing it like all my friends etc but i dont think any of us really understood what we were trying to do as peeps had us soon as they said "do this will piss off authority"

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I think every year everyone should celebrate "Talk Like A Terrorist Day", just to flood their data streams

We started doing that back in the late 90s when Echelon came to light.

 

Some of you kids these days... ;)

 

http://www.thing.net/~rdom/ecd/jam.html

 

 

This when we was all putting twenty words at the bottom of every e-mail for no particular reason?

 

As i was only a teen then i recall doing it like all my friends etc but i dont think any of us really understood what we were trying to do as peeps had us soon as they said "do this will piss off authority"

 

50 words you slacker, but yes. :)

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I think every year everyone should celebrate "Talk Like A Terrorist Day", just to flood their data streams

We started doing that back in the late 90s when Echelon came to light.

 

Some of you kids these days... ;)

 

http://www.thing.net/~rdom/ecd/jam.html

 

 

This when we was all putting twenty words at the bottom of every e-mail for no particular reason?

 

As i was only a teen then i recall doing it like all my friends etc but i dont think any of us really understood what we were trying to do as peeps had us soon as they said "do this will piss off authority"

 

50 words you slacker, but yes. :)

 

 

I saw those on the bottom of old porn sites, I thought they were some catchall word mash to get search engine hits.

 

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ratrace

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I always find it amusing how people completetly dismiss any steps towards privacy if these steps cannot provide 100 % security right here and now.

 

And then they send their mails with Outlook, open any attachment that provides tits and asses or money, openly tell any private matters on facebook and so forth.

 

While Open Source is not 100 secure because nothing is, encryption programs like TrueCrypt - a tool for HDD encryption - may not be up to the latest coding standards but has proven to not have a backdoor. Of course that program just encrypts hard drives, not mail traffic end to end.

 

That's what tools like GPG are for. Again, open source. But let's be honest: People don't care anyway. It's the law of idiocracy. They give a shit about their privacy and thus for the privacy of others, because people are sheep. If one behaves in a certain way, and it's comfortable, all other will adapt to it.

 

Quite a few people who publicly opposed against the latest Iraq war in the US (which btw has been declared against international law by the International Court in Den Haag) have been "visited" by the CIA and got "interrogated" - of course these measures served no other purpose than intimidation. A typical tactic for a more and more fascist and oppressive pace in times in which we are running out of energy ressources. I guess these people would have appreciated hdd and mail encryption.

 

It's not the ones that want privacy that should justify themselves. It's the ones who breach it in the first and those who stand in the  fan row and applaude to that in the second place. Also a pain in the ass: Those who are not in power kiss the arses of those that are a threat to them. The sycophants hope that crumbs of mercy may fall on their heads while all others will have to pay. What makes you think that licking boots provokes more than contempt in the ones who own these boots?

 

Another piece of the puzzle:

http://www.infoworld.com/d/the-industry-standard/snowden-the-nsa-planted-backdoors-in-cisco-products-242534

 

Cisco products are often used in companies. Nice industrial espionage.

 

Also nice:

http://www.salon.com/2012/04/08/u_s_filmmaker_repeatedly_detained_at_border/

 

And some words of love:

 

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Chaos63

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I very much doubt NSA would be interested in personal correspondence from anybody on this site, and probably the majority of the internet for that matter. I'm more concerned about governments putting stuff in my water than the NSA cracking my emails.

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pinky6225

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I very much doubt NSA would be interested in personal correspondence from anybody on this site, and probably the majority of the internet for that matter. I'm more concerned about governments putting stuff in my water than the NSA cracking my emails.

 

I wouldn't be as stuff in the water could be easily tested for (most water companies have a obligation to conduct so many tests per month/quarter) so it wouldn't take long to spot.

 

The problem with electronic data is that its electronic so until quantum encryption is viable (which as i recall would be changed by being intercepted) you can't be 100% sure that its just your PC talking to the PC that you wanted to talk to which is what creates the paranoia

 

You are right though governments would have no interested in the 99.99% of traffic as generally most people are law abiding citizens, take the UK for example population of 65 millionish prision capacity under 200k so if we all broke the law there would be no where for the 64.8 million peeps to go, and if we werent governments would have a much bigger problem on there hands that who sent what e-mail to who.

 

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prideslayer

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I very much doubt NSA would be interested in personal correspondence from anybody on this site, and probably the majority of the internet for that matter. I'm more concerned about governments putting stuff in my water than the NSA cracking my emails.

 

I wouldn't be as stuff in the water could be easily tested for (most water companies have a obligation to conduct so many tests per month/quarter) so it wouldn't take long to spot.

 

The problem with electronic data is that its electronic so until quantum encryption is viable (which as i recall would be changed by being intercepted) you can't be 100% sure that its just your PC talking to the PC that you wanted to talk to which is what creates the paranoia

 

That's quantum entanglement, not encryption. Entanglement is used in quantum computing, that's how it works, but "run of the mill" quantum encryption doesn't use it, and nothing "off the shelf" can use it effectively.

 

For entanglement to be used for communications each party needs one of the entangled pairs -- in a normal quantum computer, all the entangled pairs are just in your own computer. Also, you need one pair for at a minimum every *bit* you want to encrypt, and once you use a pair once, it's useless after that.

 

In other words, quantum computing is useful for cryptography in general, but has nothing to do with eavesdropping or cracking it. It just lets us do math problems in parallel that we can currently only do in sequence, which speeds things up tremendously. Once such computers are common, (most of) the encryption algorithms will scale with them just fine.

 

You'll just end up using 20,480bit AES instead of 2048 bit, or something like that.

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Halstrom

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Unbreakable (today) encryption is a good thing, however, never underestimate your "opponent."

 

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Hmm yeah why do we need to fund a $2m Software Cracking department and monitoring so they don't turn on us when we can just spend $200k on a few smart thugs or even a lot less depending on the individual job requirements  :)

 

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prideslayer

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Unbreakable (today) encryption is a good thing, however, never underestimate your "opponent."

 

security.png

 

Hmm yeah why do we need to fund a $2m Software Cracking department and monitoring so they don't turn on us when we can just spend $200k on a few smart thugs or even a lot less depending on the individual job requirements  :)

 

I think the IQ requirements for beating a person while asking "what's your password" are pretty low. Hell, I could probably even do it!

 

I'm reminded also of an old cDc or Phrack with a story about kidnapping someones cat to get their "telnet thingy." ;)

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