Crash On Load (Only Some Saves)

[Pixie-K]

My 2 most important save files are now unusable without reason, ever since I started a new game on a different file. I have not since installed any new mods, altered load order, anything at all. There have been NO changes, and there really is NO reason for the sudden crashing. I can still load VERY old saves with other characters, and my newest save with newest character, but my two favorites are basically dead now. I don't know what could cause this, and anyone else probably won't either, but I figured it would at least be worth a try.

 

Yes I use BOSS, yes I use Wrye Bash and no I haven't tried unticking mods.... This is a lot of mods to keep rebuilding my bashed patch each time for.

Here's my load order according to Wrye Bash.

 

Active Mod Files:

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
02  Lovers with PK.esm
03  LoversCreature.esm
04  x117race.esm
05  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
06  MONSTERGIRL-CoC.esp
07  Real_Mannequin.esp
08  DLCHorseArmor.esp
09  DLCOrrery.esp
0A  DLCVileLair.esp
0B  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
0C  DLCSpellTomes.esp
**  HGEC_special_armor_repl.esp
0D  1SB_RavenousEleganceOutfit.esp
0E  BlackLuster.esp
0F  HGEC_Draconic_Armor.esp
10  Slof's Boners! v5.esp
11  AT2 01-Shiki Armor Set.esp
12  Forbidden.esp
13  R18PN - Eisen Platte Armor.esp
14  DLCThievesDen.esp
15  Alluring Potion Bottles v3.esp
16  Alluring Wine Bottles.esp
17  Trade and Commerce.esp
18  DMwardropemerged.esp
19  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
1A  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
1B  DLCFrostcrag.esp
1C  Knights.esp
1D  HentaiMania2.esp
1E  LoversRaperS.esp
1F  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 96v4a]
20  LoversBitch.esp
21  LoversCreature.esp
22  LoversMB2.esp
23  LoversSlaveTrader.esp
24  LSTBravilUnderground.esp
25  NoEncumberance.esp
26  LithiansNatureOfTheBeastModBeta.esp
27  Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp
28  BudongsNarcolepsySpell.esp
29  SetEssentialActors.esp
2A  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]
2B  zzEstrus.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
**  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
++  x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp
2C  CCC.esp
2D  Chocolate Elves.esp
2E  Vampire Race Reloaded.esp
**  ahtata dremora.esp
**  Beautiful PeopleV22 - MaleReplacerV4.esp
2F  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
30  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
31  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
32  Tenue de la reine du sang.esp
33  FunnySkillDescs.esp
34  LSTaddonoutH.esp

 

[myuhinny]

HentaiMania2 Did you clean this one? The hentiamania series are dirty dirty dirty and need to be cleaned with tes4edit or they can and will cause problems in your game.  Same with all your DLC's all of the DLC's are dirty except for shivering isles that one is fine the rest need to be cleaned with tes4edit.

 

Wrye bash also has the other tab that shows all your of saves clicking the one that you are trying to use you can look at the load order that you had when the save was made and see if any of them are out of order.

[Pixie-K]

I'll try this TES4Edit thing, but I may just kill hentaimania and see it that solves anything.

[d4nt320]

ok in my experience this happens when you are in an enclosed area and change or put a new mod as a mod that changes the appearance of the character like overhaul character replace or something like that. your file are death try to start the game with oblivion launcher if this not work your files are really death.

 

other thing is the last mod you install in that important save files try to unchecked that mod on the oblivion launcher and start the game normally on obse. check all last mod you install

[davidporter89]

if you have not solved your problem yet, you could try starting a new game, and as soon as you can save it... do so, quit the game, restart game, load that newest save, and then load the save you are having problems with on top of it. but myuhinnys' advice is solid, and should really be done even if there are no problems present {that you know of }

[davidporter89]

and you might want to check out cffexplorer to enable the LargeAddressAware flag on your exe. if those save have grown too large to be handled without exception this will take care of it.

[Pixie-K]

@myuhinny:  Tes4Edit looks like one of those things that in my hands would cause more harm than good

 

@davidporter89: I gave cff explorer a try, and all I can say is... I'M LOST SEND HELP

[myuhinny]

There are many tutorials on youtube on how to clean your mods of dirty edits. Here is one of them. 

[Pixie-K]

Myuhinny, a lifesaver as usual. Watching the video now

 

EDIT: Still no luck. My saves are dead. I guess it won't kill me to just start a new game, since that still works.

[davidporter89]

copy and paste EVERY dll and EVERY exe to a back-up folder. if you installed cffexplorer right, it should have integrated into your shell, meaning when you right click a dll or exe (among other extensions but that is for other things) that it should have an option to open in cffexplorer. AFTER BACK-UP!!!!!!! right click on your first dll/exe and select "open withh cff explorer". there will be a menu on the left-hand side of cff when it opens your file. look for and select "file header". now in the right-hand side of the window look for "characteristics" and at the end of its row it will say "click here". click there . and put a check mark next to "app can handle >2gb address space". next, at the top left, there will be a picture of a floppy disk on top of a hard disk drive. it should say "save" when you hover over it. click it and overwrite. repeat on every dll and exe........ and you have just made oblivion able to use TWICE as much memory. not many people know this but it is a VERY powerful tweak when it comes to performance.

[Pixie-K]

Still no dice. Cleaned up with TES4Edit, AND used David's large address aware enabler tutorial. I think those save files are forfeit.

[davidporter89]

after seeing alot of this go around lately i figure it boils down to a typo "somewhere" in a mod, or script extender, that people providing these reports have in common. i didn't really think that enabling the laa flag would fix this particular issue directly, but maybe solve the problem somewhere "up the chain". but, alas, it did not, and now i am forced to start gathering load orders and doing alot of comparing. (sigh)

[Pixie-K]

Sorry David, that sounds too much like work

 

[jeremiahp15]

i had this problem before. i fixed but open comand ~ and typing coc center once youre teleported wait 4 days, after those 4 days open command again and type save "savename" and you should have a new save. after you should be able to load your other save and also your saves wont be bad for a while.

[rynak777]

I had loversSlaverTrader corrupt savegames. Of course, that is a requirement for bravilunderground, so to test this, you'd have to disable both.... and doing so will reset all your LST and bravil savedata.

[gregathit]

Strange.....Slave trader has never done anything to my saved games.  Are you sure it was not something to do with taking actual slaves that caused it?  Slave trader is pretty benign for a plugin, in that it pretty much just sits and waits to be called upon.  

[rynak777]

Strange.....Slave trader has never done anything to my saved games.  Are you sure it was not something to do with taking actual slaves that caused it?  Slave trader is pretty benign for a plugin, in that it pretty much just sits and waits to be called upon.  

Yes, i could pretty much isolate it down to LST. *searches for thread*

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/26919-reproducable-ctd-loversslavetrader/?do=findComment&comment=676307

 

As you can see from the LO, pretty much only lovers and LST were active. For non lovers mods, just DLC, MCS, MCSext and the unofficial oblivion patch were active.

 

It was the reason i opted to stop using LST and bravil. At that time, i was in the process of hunting down the last remaining troublemakers in my setup, so i didn't care to investigate how rare this happens - i just was isolating and removing mods on a "one strike and you're out"-basis.

 

EDIT: Hmm, now i see that the topic only mentions a CTD - not savegame corruption..... maybe i'm mixing this up with another problem i found on the same day? *searches further*

 

EDIT2: SORRY, you're correct..... LST did not cause savegame corruption - "just" a CTD. The savegame corruption issue i found on the same day instead was related to streamline 2.1: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/26900-reproc-savegame-corruptionctd-streamline-21-vs-ai-sched-vs-lpk/

[Pixie-K]

OH sorry I forgot to get back to everyone on this, but my saves have all magically fixed themselves somehow. Don't ask me how, as I did nothing, changed nothing, but my saves all work now without any sort of revelation as to why they didn't before.