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Which Follower Framework Do You Use?

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Which Follower framework do you use?  

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  1. 1. Which Follower framework do you use?

    • Amazing Follower Tweaks
      403
    • Ultimate Follower Overhaul
      278
    • Extensible Follower Framework
      196
    • Other Framework
      25
    • None, I never use a Follower framework.
      116

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hryh23k9823u

hryh23k9823u

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I use AFT because as far as I could tell it's the only one that lets you manage werewolf and vamp lord followers and order them to go furry (or bat?) on the enemies. I wouldn't mind switching to a better option, but I really like those features.

 

Everytime I see Expired on the LL chat I always feel like I forget to ask him something ;o

Uriel

Uriel

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I tried a lot of of those and still have no idea which one to use. The problem is that eventually some other mod will break that framework/current followers/will bug out because of the framework.

nutluck

nutluck

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I tried a lot of of those and still have no idea which one to use. The problem is that eventually some other mod will break that framework/current followers/will bug out because of the framework.

 

So far *knock on wood* I have never had a mod break because of AFT. I have heard some follower mods will cause problems that have their own built in systems though. I personally think there is pro's and cons to both AFT and UFO. I tried them both and felt each one did some things better and some things worse. I ended up going with AFT only because I felt it did the things I find more important better and the cons to AFT bothered me less but that is just personal taste.

rylasasin

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I'm using EFF, which is objectively the best of all by far and only one that is not abandoned~

 

AFT is not really "Abandoned". Abandoned would imply it's incomplete then left to rot.

 

AFT simply reached a point to where there's nothing more to update or add.

venomg3

venomg3

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EFF its the better follower management choice and its separation from the dialogue system makes it far more compatible across the board

 

plus alot of AFTs extras can be replicated by other mods, with the exception of probably the vampire lord

Teruke

Teruke

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really? no one noticed how with AFT you can assign any NPC to be whatever you want? Lydia is a warrior type in vanilla Skyrim but you can make her be a mage, ranger, spellsword... and it really makes the follower be that role by modding the skills to 100 for the respective choice AND also makes Sneaking 100 regardless of what you want the follower to be... so i can have a mage that won't make the enemies aware of my presence if I'm sneaking around... great stuff, the best feature for me... >.> ; UFO is too old and EFF indeed has a nice menu, but i still prefer "talking" to my follower rather than click through menus

nutluck

nutluck

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I'm using EFF, which is objectively the best of all by far and only one that is not abandoned~

 

AFT is not really "Abandoned". Abandoned would imply it's incomplete then left to rot.

 

AFT simply reached a point to where there's nothing more to update or add.

 

 

Well to be fair AFT could have used a little more polish, I use and like AFT. But I still wish they had done more work on the user interface so it was a bit easier to use. It honestly is a bit clumsy as it sits now. I like the mod and use but even as a fan I think it could have still been better.

 

For me the interface is the only real con to AFT.

eifrag

eifrag

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I like EFF and its magic system,

you teach/forget spells

and you can see if an NPC is affected by buffs/debuffs (e.g beeing female,rape victim)

 

you can also view his/her stats, regen, resistances

 

and the party widget is a +++++

cornbreadtm

cornbreadtm

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I'm using EFF, which is objectively the best of all by far and only one that is not abandoned~

 

AFT is not really "Abandoned". Abandoned would imply it's incomplete then left to rot.

 

AFT simply reached a point to where there's nothing more to update or add.

 

That's actually wrong. The author abandoned it and didn't add support for any of the DLC after Dawnguard. There are conflicts with Hearthfires housecarls that he admitted to leaving in because he didn't want to buy the DLC (I fixed them myself since it only takes 5 minutes). The mod could use some script optimization but all in all it's the best option when picking a follower framework. Since EFF has conflicts with custom followers, if it didn't it would be the best.

 

Personally I use AFT with FollowerLivePackage. I turn off the AFT relax function and let FLP handle that.

hryh23k9823u

hryh23k9823u

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I'm using EFF, which is objectively the best of all by far and only one that is not abandoned~

 

AFT is not really "Abandoned". Abandoned would imply it's incomplete then left to rot.

 

AFT simply reached a point to where there's nothing more to update or add.

 

That's actually wrong. The author abandoned it and didn't add support for any of the DLC after Dawnguard. There are conflicts with Hearthfires housecarls that he admitted to leaving in because he didn't want to buy the DLC (I fixed them myself since it only takes 5 minutes). The mod could use some script optimization but all in all it's the best option when picking a follower framework. Since EFF has conflicts with custom followers, if it didn't it would be the best.

 

Personally I use AFT with FollowerLivePackage. I turn off the AFT relax function and let FLP handle that.

 

 

Oh, didn't know about custom followers but tbh I've only used a couple of them and it worked, the only mod that actually didn't worked was Interesting NPC's but there's a compatibility plugin already in the EFF download page. EFF has a relax function aswell btw and its somewhat customizable in MCM too. The relax function is basically sandbox mode, so dunno about that Follower Live but now I'm curious about~

 

crs030

crs030

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Right now i run the EFF Beta with the InterestingNPC Patch since the only followers i use are form INPC.

A while ago i had some issues that could be fixed with reinstalling and loading an older Save, never had problems befor or after that so i never tried anything other than EFF.

RDKateran

RDKateran

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I'm currently using UFO.  I had intended to switch, but I use Cerwiden, which from what I understand doesn't play nice with AFT as it keeps gutting her healing AI.  Yes, a lot of people claim now that it works, but frankly I still remember what Mujuro said: that compatibility between Cerwiden and AFT is a joint effort and won't be complete until both are updated for it... and Cerwiden hasn't been updated for it.  And furthermore, even with the depressing lack of updates for her I refuse to relinquish her as a companion.  So I'm stuck with UFO.

Guest

Guest

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Heh, it's precisely because of all these issues people are mentioning that I don't use one! I only really have followers around for dialogue (Mjoll in the vanilla version, one of the 3DNPCs in modded), so I'm not really too bothered if they act like retards. If there was a standalone 'call follower' mod that saved me having to look back to check they're still there, that'd be fine by me. Walking the long way around a cliff because the AI is too stupid to jump is a small price for stability, and my mod list fucks with stability enough as it is.

 

More control over gear would be nice, and if Wardrobe Manager ever became SexLab compatible it would be perfect.

 

Frankly, there's too many issues with the follower mods conflicting with certain other mods, and I really can't be bothered checking what works with what.

gooser

gooser

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Heh, it's precisely because of all these issues people are mentioning that I don't use one! I only really have followers around for dialogue (Mjoll in the vanilla version, one of the 3DNPCs in modded), so I'm not really too bothered if they act like retards. If there was a standalone 'call follower' mod that saved me having to look back to check they're still there, that'd be fine by me. Walking the long way around a cliff because the AI is too stupid to jump is a small price for stability, and my mod list fucks with stability enough as it is.

 

More control over gear would be nice, and if Wardrobe Manager ever became SexLab compatible it would be perfect.

 

Frankly, there's too many issues with the follower mods conflicting with certain other mods, and I really can't be bothered checking what works with what.

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/26693/?

Just Checking

Just Checking

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I'll admit my usage of custom followers has been fairly minimal, but the ones I have used worked fine.  Does EFF just tend not to recognize them or something?  Or does it have a problem with more complex custom followers like Inigo?  I could see the bigger ones conflicting, but the simple followers that are just "placed at [insert inn here], talk to them and they'll love you forever" seem to be fine.

Leito86

Leito86

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UFO.  I tried AFT and didn't care for it.  It has a bunch of, imo, useless follower options and has a bad case of dialogue-ception iirc.

OverClocked56

OverClocked56

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I've been using UFO but as I change constantly mods and saves If I didn't dismiss my followers when changing to another mod your save gets screwed. I'm using now EFF and I like it. I also tried AFT but did not like it, did not have group commands or may be I did not find how, so I stick with EFF.

Justoutthere

Justoutthere

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Have always use UFO, simply because it did what I needed (with horse addon) and hasn't borked my game.

 

That said the furry/vamp feature of AFT sounds promising an will prob have a look as I hold no allegiace just use what works till it doesn't

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