Rabblerouser Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 If there's one thing I've been missing from Sexout (Fallout NV's sex framework), it's mods with crafted stories. I'm talking about stuff like: -Sexout Breeder. It is well thought-out. Custom dungeons, dialog system that was hella descriptive (if sometimes the spelling seemed a bit wonky). It was well-crafted, if a bit.. odd for some (t'was a beastiality mod for the most part). I suppose this has to do with Sexlab's lack of a single, popular pregnancy mod. -Sexout Fleshed Out (SOFO). THIS WONDERFUL PIECE OF WORK! By DoctaSax, this awesome story mod features several different paths the PC can take at the beginning of the game.. now granted FalloutNV and Skyrim start out two VERY different ways, the way this mod was carefully planned and executed goes to show the quality one can make in a game. The thought put into the Rape Trauma path is actually worth going through. I'd seriously suggest giving it a try if you own FalloutNV. Story.. and not to mention it uses various OTHER mods in the Sexout Framework to great effect to make the story feel more interactive. I'm tired of point-and-hump. I want description. -Sexlab Solutions only goes so far, giving out a one-line bit that heads over to humping. -Apropros also only goes so far (also one-line bits, I think, and doesn't seem to like to activate for me). -The "Deviant" set of mods seems like it's the closest to a serious story mod with that Tome questline, but I have reservations about the Tome questline. Besides, what if I'm not INTO the whole bondage fetish? Anyone have any suggestions for mods I may have missed out on? PS: The lack of one single, dedicated pregnancy system a la Sexout's does hurt the community, I feel.
AlerictheNord Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 There aren't any. Best you can do for the moment, is either use Radiant Prostitution or Working Girl, and basically roleplay as a prostitute. Other than that...there really just isn't that much.
Just Checking Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 I think there's a couple mods in the works here and there. Not custom dungeon stuff, but I think I've seen a couple things aiming to give better context to SL interactions. Things like Spouses Enhanced and various WIP relationship mods, but a lot of those seem to have been abandoned. If you're looking for something akin to SexoutBreeder, I suppose the closest thing for SL is Sanguine's Debauchery+. No custom dungeon, but things can occur pretty much anywhere, so in that respect it's a bit more dynamic. Admittedly, little in the way of actual crafted story, but I found that sort of makes SL a bit more roleplay friendly. You don't have to go the way the mod author set. On top of that, SL and its various plugins are still quite under development. By the time updating activity drops to LL's point (where I think there's only maybe one or two mods currently being worked on) there could be a good deal more of what you're looking for. I imagine these kinds of mods don't exist yet just because how difficult and time consuming they'd be to make and keep up to date with SL. However I have to ask, what's wrong with the various pregnancy systems thing? Each one's tuned for a different set of tastes, and it's not like certain SL mods are incompatible with one over the other. It's more a matter of how you want it handled than anything else. Some simple ones for those who want a straight up system without too much scripting baggage and some more complex ones for those seeking deeper realism or don't mind extra scripts in their game.
aqqh Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 Theres some of them WIP. Hopefully one or the other would be published one day.
AlerictheNord Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 However I have to ask, what's wrong with the various pregnancy systems thing? Each one's tuned for a different set of tastes, and it's not like certain SL mods are incompatible with one over the other. It's more a matter of how you want it handled than anything else. Some simple ones for those who want a straight up system without too much scripting baggage and some more complex ones for those seeking deeper realism or don't mind extra scripts in their game. There is nothing 'wrong' with any of them, but let's be honest, the selection is oddly limited given how long Skyrim has been out, and given the pregnancy mods we had in previous games, this is kind of frustrating. 1) Procreation was abandoned a long time ago. 2) Hentai pregnancy is -- by design -- pretty bare bones, doesn't factor cycles, and doesn't have any post-birth options or plugins. 3) Simple Pregnancy doesn't actually do anything besides keep a list of pregnancies...? 4) Faites doesn't link to SexLab animations O_o and massively distorts non-bodyslide bodies. 5) Beeing Female is shaping up nicely, though.
Daycrist Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 I'm thinking Miltz and his Beeing Female may indeed trump all the other pregnancy mods I quite enjoy it myself. It has a lot of options to fine tune your cycles and pregnancy and stick to it well
Grimbold the unlovely Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 Anyone have any suggestions for mods I may have missed out on? Have you tried Spouses Enhanced? It does not really offer a story, but it does provide great immersion (at least for married characters). Not quite what you were asking for, but SE does more than other mod I know to bring NPCs alive. I also like Apropos, especially with customized messages.
FinalCloud Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 I too wish for more story mods like Breeder or Blackmail/Crowning (Oblivion) for Skyrim. Give it time and I am sure some will appear, I have myself gone so far as to try and learn to make one, but I get burntout before I even start by the fact that the mod I create would be amateurish. Too bad CK is so much harder to use than CS or I probably would have been comfortable enough to make one =/
Just Checking Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 However I have to ask, what's wrong with the various pregnancy systems thing? Each one's tuned for a different set of tastes, and it's not like certain SL mods are incompatible with one over the other. It's more a matter of how you want it handled than anything else. Some simple ones for those who want a straight up system without too much scripting baggage and some more complex ones for those seeking deeper realism or don't mind extra scripts in their game. There is nothing 'wrong' with any of them, but let's be honest, the selection is oddly limited given how long Skyrim has been out, and given the pregnancy mods we had in previous games, this is kind of frustrating. 1) Procreation was abandoned a long time ago. 2) Hentai pregnancy is -- by design -- pretty bare bones, doesn't factor cycles, and doesn't have any post-birth options or plugins. 3) Simple Pregnancy doesn't actually do anything besides keep a list of pregnancies...? 4) Faites doesn't link to SexLab animations O_o and massively distorts non-bodyslide bodies. 5) Beeing Female is shaping up nicely, though. Beeing female gets my vote. Faites looks like it could be interesting once it gets properly integrated, but I'll probably stick to BF on account of scaled down, identical clones of the parents is a concept that just weirds me out. I wonder if someone could borrow resources from Children of the Sky or something?
1conseq Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 What i can see is that the the aim of most of the modders here is to create mods that turn sex into a part of Skyrim, beyond the animations and dialogue that triggers them. Some of the mods being developed and others that have been already released, like arousal, spectator crowds, spouses enhanced, attraction and real courtship aim to do just that, make the people of Skyrim want and provoke sex in a natural way. I actually prefer that direction rather than a scripted story. You say the sex as it is now it's shallow, but I think it's the other way around. These mods will make every character of Skyrim be influenced by SexLab. Just mind that these guys are improving and developing a lot of new stuff. Ideally, I would believe that expanding the dialogue possibilities, character personalities and overall interaction with as many NPC's as possible, regardless of these interactions being related to sex or not would really give a bigger sense of immersion and I think that's what you're missing, more personality and differentiation between NPC's. And I agree that the animations by themselves are no fun at all. There needs to be context, circumstance. But that's a whole lot of work man. I'm fine with what people is already working on here. It's getting there.
Caturday Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 Theres actually a few. Angrims Apprentice which I think is finished. Sexlab Guild has a storyline as well. Heromasters mod which for now is simply called "a prostitution and player slavery mod" has a story too I beleive. I havent tried it yet. I couldnt get warm with Oblivion so I havent really seen all the big mods from that time. However I believe in order to start mods like that, someone(maybe even you?) has to open a thread and collect ideas with other people of what could be in a story mod. Once you have a general guideline of the story Im sure a modder or 2 will come by and help creating that mod. However otherwise I agree, theres too much of the same currently, like the 23492349 different pregnancy mods. Make a thread, brainstorm a story together with some other folk and see what happens.
traveller_phi Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 [...] Make a thread, brainstorm a story together with some other folk and see what happens. I would add be clear that the thread is a brainstorm thread. You don't want to scare modders away with what at first will be a chaotic half formed idea. Get the idea refined and polished into a coherent and believable script. If there were no modders already in the brainstorm thread ready to get started, then start a new suggestion thread with the first post being the polished script. Modding is a lot of work, so if you can at least get the script nailed down a head of time it will be easier to get modders on board, as at least that chunk of work will already be out of the way.
Mr. Manguy Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 http://dark-investigations.blogspot.com/ Updates are EXTREMELY slow, but this might be something you'll like.
Just Checking Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 Oooooo careful of CotS it's a sore subject.... I can understand that it's easy to debate whether CotS should even be on the website, it's fairly well borderline, especially given the general nature of Loverslab and I've read that SL and such have checks and precautions in place regarding it. I just can't stand that every child in the game looks exactly the same as every other with different clothes, like the same horrifying clay-mation abomination cloned and implanted in various homes like some alien spy life form. Vanilla children remind me of Tim Burton movies. I just figured it would be nice to borrow some resources so children wouldn't have to be scale models of their mother or something. Having said that, I have no idea how hard it would be to incorporate anyway.
Daycrist Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 Oooooo careful of CotS it's a sore subject.... I can understand that it's easy to debate whether CotS should even be on the website, it's fairly well borderline, especially given the general nature of Loverslab and I've read that SL and such have checks and precautions in place regarding it. I just can't stand that every child in the game looks exactly the same as every other with different clothes, like the same horrifying clay-mation abomination cloned and implanted in various homes like some alien spy life form. Vanilla children remind me of Tim Burton movies. I just figured it would be nice to borrow some resources so children wouldn't have to be scale models of their mother or something. Having said that, I have no idea how hard it would be to incorporate anyway. Well the issue with CotS was that for almost a year it was up on LoversLab and the modder who created it used full nude textures and meshes for the "children" given they were basically 10-13 year olds and it wasn't until some woman brought it to the attention of the Forum admins that the original CotS was removed. They now have the Reworked CotS and I'm not sure if they fixed those nude textures and meshes or not but at least they aren't posting pics of it on the forums anymore that I know of.
saladboy21 Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 Hentai Pregnancy does have plugins, two of them actually, and is (as I understand it) designed to be easy for other mods to get pregnancy information from. Beeing Female did not have F/F pregnancy (for female as male sex) as an option, not (IIRC) a general ability to maintain pregnancy risk most of the time. If those are incorrect let me know, but speaking as someone who likes both those and gets neither from BF, I really hope it does not become a sole standard, though if people want to use it grand. Solutions has some story but agreed, not much. The Dibella Cult and Guild also have some, but I have not managed to get too much from Debella cult yet...I don't think it has very far once you find the Sybel, but I could be wrong not messed with it extensively, just was not able to figure out a way to get quests once sybel was rescued.
Daycrist Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 Hentai Pregnancy does have plugins, two of them actually, and is (as I understand it) designed to be easy for other mods to get pregnancy information from. Beeing Female did not have F/F pregnancy (for female as male sex) as an option, not (IIRC) a general ability to maintain pregnancy risk most of the time. If those are incorrect let me know, but speaking as someone who likes both those and gets neither from BF, I really hope it does not become a sole standard, though if people want to use it grand. Solutions has some story but agreed, not much. The Dibella Cult and Guild also have some, but I have not managed to get too much from Debella cult yet...I don't think it has very far once you find the Sybel, but I could be wrong not messed with it extensively, just was not able to figure out a way to get quests once sybel was rescued. Beeing Female does get pregnancy info from other sex mods as long as it goes through the Sexlab framework, as for the F/F pregnancy.....females are not known to get pregnant while having sex with another female....if this actually happens let me know.
Rabblerouser Posted April 5, 2014 Author Posted April 5, 2014 http://dark-investigations.blogspot.com/ Updates are EXTREMELY slow, but this might be something you'll like. Thanks, though I'm not sure if SexiS and Sexlab will work well beside each other. Do I HAVE to change from SOS to FlavoredSoul? However I have to ask, what's wrong with the various pregnancy systems thing? Each one's tuned for a different set of tastes, and it's not like certain SL mods are incompatible with one over the other. It's more a matter of how you want it handled than anything else. Some simple ones for those who want a straight up system without too much scripting baggage and some more complex ones for those seeking deeper realism or don't mind extra scripts in their game. There is nothing 'wrong' with any of them, but let's be honest, the selection is oddly limited given how long Skyrim has been out, and given the pregnancy mods we had in previous games, this is kind of frustrating. 1) Procreation was abandoned a long time ago. 2) Hentai pregnancy is -- by design -- pretty bare bones, doesn't factor cycles, and doesn't have any post-birth options or plugins. 3) Simple Pregnancy doesn't actually do anything besides keep a list of pregnancies...? 4) Faites doesn't link to SexLab animations O_o and massively distorts non-bodyslide bodies. 5) Beeing Female is shaping up nicely, though. Beeing Female is shaping up nicely. And well.. seems it's the only real one of the bunch that is still being worked on. It seems buggy as hell, though. For example, MCM options seeming to glitch (click dropdown, get nothing despite an option already picked before, so you end up pickign a blank options). There is no real birth either, which I believe the author has said he would intentionally live certain features out and leave that up to others to create their own plugins for Beeing Female, which I respect the idea, but it makes it more complicated. It also doesn't fill me with much hope, especially given the state of plugins for HentaiPregnancy.. I'm not sure there's going to be all that much work. Having ONE pregnancy mod, however, will help development for it. Like I said, look at Sexout's. The amount of options in Sexout's pregnancy mod is insane. It's a very, VERY flexible system. Though I have a hunch it's because of the communication between all the mod authors. Anyone have any suggestions for mods I may have missed out on? Have you tried Spouses Enhanced? It does not really offer a story, but it does provide great immersion (at least for married characters). Not quite what you were asking for, but SE does more than other mod I know to bring NPCs alive. I also like Apropos, especially with customized messages. I was thinking I wouldn't need it because my PC doesn't have a spouse. Does it conflict with Lover's Comfort? Theres actually a few. Angrims Apprentice which I think is finished. Sexlab Guild has a storyline as well. Heromasters mod which for now is simply called "a prostitution and player slavery mod" has a story too I beleive. I havent tried it yet. Angrim's Apprentice seems... weird. Like it's all freeform or something. It seems a bit messy. Maybe I'm just bugged, though. Sexlab Guild.. I thought that was bugged. O.o It would never work for me, I only got the dialog. APPS, well.. I've tried that before, but it seemed to bug out as well. As for Dibella cult, I'm hesitant on that one.
WaxenFigure Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 http://dark-investigations.blogspot.com/ Updates are EXTREMELY slow, but this might be something you'll like. Thanks, though I'm not sure if SexiS and Sexlab will work well beside each other. Do I HAVE to change from SOS to FlavoredSoul? ... You only need the SexIs core which would not cause any difficulty with SexLab though using some SexLab add-on mods during the run through of this mod can and will cause problems. Best bet is to create a backup copy of your Skyrim folder and your saves folder. Then make the changes (yes, this mod doesn't support SOS and will only align properly for sex scenes with Favored Soul) and try the mod (remember you need to be playing a female character as well so you may need to start a new game just for this). Once done, remove the Skyrim and save folders and restore the backup copies made before trying that mod. It's a fun mod which allows you some freedom to make choices but still runs a fairly linear story. At the current rate, it should be completed about the time the sun goes dark.
ZigNewton Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 The only major story-based mod that I can think of from the top of my head is Forbidden Fruit - The Incest Mod. That's the thing though... ya kinda have to be into the whole incest thing. Also ya gotta wait. For a while. Since it's still very WIP.
AlerictheNord Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 The only major story-based mod that I can think of from the top of my head is Forbidden Fruit - The Incest Mod. That's the thing though... ya kinda have to be into the whole incest thing. Also ya gotta wait. For a while. Since it's still very WIP. Also, if you have to be into redguards...
Daycrist Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 The only major story-based mod that I can think of from the top of my head is Forbidden Fruit - The Incest Mod. That's the thing though... ya kinda have to be into the whole incest thing. Also ya gotta wait. For a while. Since it's still very WIP. Also, if you have to be into redguards... That's just the first family he has others planned just started with Redguards
Just Checking Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 Oooooo careful of CotS it's a sore subject.... I can understand that it's easy to debate whether CotS should even be on the website, it's fairly well borderline, especially given the general nature of Loverslab and I've read that SL and such have checks and precautions in place regarding it. I just can't stand that every child in the game looks exactly the same as every other with different clothes, like the same horrifying clay-mation abomination cloned and implanted in various homes like some alien spy life form. Vanilla children remind me of Tim Burton movies. I just figured it would be nice to borrow some resources so children wouldn't have to be scale models of their mother or something. Having said that, I have no idea how hard it would be to incorporate anyway. Well the issue with CotS was that for almost a year it was up on LoversLab and the modder who created it used full nude textures and meshes for the "children" given they were basically 10-13 year olds and it wasn't until some woman brought it to the attention of the Forum admins that the original CotS was removed. They now have the Reworked CotS and I'm not sure if they fixed those nude textures and meshes or not but at least they aren't posting pics of it on the forums anymore that I know of. They did take care of that, children are never nude now. However they also gave the children (redundant) underwear items as well as their underwear clad body textures, and with one of the plugins that adds children to the odd bandit camp or so, the item was added to the level lists of all bandits. I had bandits that prioritize the underwear item over their armour, so there's a bunch of people running around in the middle of nowhere with no clothes on. A bit of a weird one, that.
jxm Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 First I suggest talking about Children of the sky somewhere else? Okay, that was only my german sense of order speaking , and to make myself look like a nitpicker Now, to the original question of the thread: Yes, I really would like to see such things here as well, for Skyrim. Some stuff, like Crowning Isle, Blackmail and of course Claudias Little Secret in Oblivion or Breeder in Fallout NV were pretty awesome ... yet I would actually prefer a different approach, which I recently thought about...because even though I fully respect mods like "SexLab Sanguines Debauchery", that mod is, at least for me, rather dull. You get enslaved by some random bandit, and that's mostly it. I'd rather have it that you get enslaved in a very specific dunegon/fortress (or sold to one), where we have actual characters, dialogues and interaction, as well as CONTEXT! Also, instead of a huge, multi-quest storyline that probably takes ages for one person to finish, is full of bugs that multiply with every SexLab-Update and has a big change of getting abandoned before its ever really finished, I'd rather have it like "Player Slave Encounter", also for Oblivion. That mod added various small, well, encounters and Quests to the world of Oblivion, with a focus on enslavement, but sometimes that was just a minor aspect. And they weren't all connected to each other, you didn't need to do them all or in a specific order... And I like that approach. Several small or medium-sized quest-mods, telling little stories and having the player run into different kind of encounters. Some examples from the original PSE/Oblivion: - A treasure hunter quest for some noble girl that was in a rivalry with her sister. You visited various dungeons to retrieve stuff (and got raped by a ghost draining you lifeforce...), and finally you ended up during a dirty sex party, during which the story concluded in quite a naughty way... - You sleep outside and ... you get abducted by some scumbags and now have to work your ass in a brothel...in between the hours you are not used by the customers you have to figure out how to flee... - You investigate strange things happening in a weird little town called Hackdirt (a original part of Oblivion, H.P. Lovecraft inspired), and find out about a strange cult. PSE takes the original idea, which ended ratehr unsatisfying, and continues it rather well ... you'll end up beneath the sea, get captured by weird fishlike creatures (the Grummites from Shivering Isle) ... - You get enslaved by professional slavers, which first train you to be more submissive, until eventually they sell you to some noble guy, who uses your toon as sex-toy and housemaid... - You are chatting with a Wood-Elf girl in some town, and she promises you to teach you some skills. But when you meet her in her basement, you find yourself tricked, captured and used to .. well, lets say the Wood Elf has some special things in mind, and is a great dog-lover, literally speaking... Those are just ideas from the PSE-Mod, and I think stuff like that would be a welcome addition to Skyrim as well. Various short/medium, self-contained encounters that spice the game up. I am no modder, the Creation Kit gives me weird headaches whenever I open it, but I suppose such things might be a lot easier to make and finish then some huge, epic Quest-Mod ... we don't need a SexLab-Falskaar, I'd say, yet rather more content all over Skyrim to run into and have some SexLab dirty fun as we play the game... Maybe if this thread stays alive for some time I'll get together some more original ideas, or "convert" the above to Skyrim
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