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Death Alternative is intended to be optional, much like how Prison Overhaul does it. I'm still going through PO's scripts to figure out just how it was done, but I know there are many people who do not like Death Alternative (for whatever reason) or prefer to use other defeat alternative mods. It sounds as though you intend to make an entirely new quest based with that soft dependency you mentioned, but I'm not sure. Regardless, sounds good to me. PM me with some details so I can get a better grip on what exactly you have in mind and we'll go from there. I'll also answer any questions you might have, as well.

Posted

 

 

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So... how long have they kept you hanging around waiting?

 

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I better spoiler-tag that...

Posted

Since your adding death alternitive into it, will there be like a punishment system when your in the cacoon inside the lair?  or will the spiders have any actions beside sitting there looking at there cacooned victim/s?

Posted

 

How long to SSD's last compare to hard drives?

 

 

Depends on the SSD, but I've got a 1st generation(OCZ Vertex) that I recently replaced with 5th generation(ADATA SX900).  That first gen drive had nearly 6 years of continuous use, with the page file and indexing on the drive turned on.  When I checked the smart settings, there were 108 failed sectors(that can't be written to anymore).  And it had roughly 78% of the life left on it.  For normal use, they figure 5-20 years depending on the quality of the drive.  There's this site here that has been doing what's called "the endurance stress test."  It's a bit tech heavy, but it gives you a rough idea that short of the drive dying, you'll get easily a decade of use, but the calculated failure for most SSDs is roughly 30 years.

 

What I mean by eating itself, is it "resetting" on it's own, that's a software flaw in the controller.  It's very rare, I've experienced it once and it was fixed in a firmware update.  Firmware updates are one of the things that are common in SSD's, used to be common in videocards too.  Not so much anymore.

Posted

Very interesting mod! 

The vanilla spiders are just too easy to kill. 

 

edit:

 

So I installed Arachnophobia, ran LOOT and the FNIS tool, started Skyrim, loaded my savegame - and I got CTD on loading  :-/

Not sure if it is Arachnophobia that caused the issue, but I got no more CTDs after I uninstalled Arachnophobia. 

 

My load order:

 

GameMode=Skyrim

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1
TKChildren.esm=1
AOM.esm=1
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1
SGHairPackBase.esm=1
hdtHighHeel.esm=1
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1
SexLab.esm=1
Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
TERAArmors.esm=1
ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1
daymoyl.esm=1
Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1
HighResTexturePack01.esp=0
HighResTexturePack02.esp=0
HighResTexturePack03.esp=0
BTRH_Tomoe.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1
AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp=1
SGHairPackAIO.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1
AlynShirArmor.esp=1
Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1
GagSFX.esp=1
nightshade_armor.esp=1
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1
AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp=1
CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1
SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp=1
KarliahArmor2.esp=1
Path of Shadows.esp=1
DeviouslyHelpless.esp=1
EliteRogueArmour.esp=1
ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
SDpatch - dragonborn.esp=1
GagSFXDawnguard.esp=1
CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp=1
HentaiMaxiArmor.esp=1
HentaiVoidArmor.esp=1
TERA Boots n Greaves - for HDT.esp=1
HentaiCasualWears.esp=1
MashupUNP.esp=1
GagSFXDragonborn.esp=1
HentaiGaleArmor.esp=1
HentaiNightmareArmor.esp=1
HentaiKarliahArmor.esp=1
CoT-WeatherPatch.esp=1
GagSFXHearthfires.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1
Mighty Beasts - Werewolf.esp=1
Proper Aiming.esp=1
SOS - Dawnguard Armors.esp=1
DIMclothes1.esp=1
Alexia CatGarter.esp=1
Maxwell Outfit.esp=1
Osare GothicLolita.esp=1
Osare KneeSocks.esp=1
Osare Maid Outfit.esp=1
Osare Swimsuit.esp=1
Osare Underwear.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp=1
SDpatch - dawnguard.esp=1
WetandCold.esp=1
WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1
RichMerchants.esp=1
sanguinesDebauchery.esp=1
Devious Deviants.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp=1
WATER DB Waves.esp=1
fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp=1
SDpatch - frostfall.esp=0
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1
TKChildren_HF.esp=1
SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp=1
AOM.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1
Sexy Armor Replacer Patch.esp=1
Captured Dreams.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp=1
WATER DG.esp=1
EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1
SOS - Dragonborn Armors.esp=1
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1
TKChildren_DB.esp=1
UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp=1
zenet_GagQuest.esp=1
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp=1
sextoys-calyps-2.esp=1
SexLabWorkingGirl.esp=1
TKChildren_V.esp=1
SBF All In One + DLC.esp=1
Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp=1
UNP Undies.esp=1
WATER.esp=1
xazPrisonOverhaul.esp=1
ArachnophobiaExpansion.esp=1
LightRoom.esp=1
R18Pn - Inner Wear Set.esp=1
R18Pn - Argent Iron Armor.esp=1
R18Pn - Fiona Armor.esp=1
Ursine Armor Pack.esp=1
WATER Plants.esp=1
BlackSacramentArmor.esp=1
Ish's Respec Mod.esp=1
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1

 

 

Also I've uploaded my Papyrus log. 

 

So have I done anything wrong that caused the issue?

Any suggestion on how to fix this?

Posted

Since your adding death alternitive into it, will there be like a punishment system when your in the cacoon inside the lair?  or will the spiders have any actions beside sitting there looking at there cacooned victim/s?

I'm particular about not answering questions I've already answered. The DA option has not yet been implemented. The spider will at some point play a greater hindrance in successfully escaping. Right now, it's just kind of there to challenge the player. The foundation is laid, now I just have to build on it. This is one of the main reasons the mod is still in beta.

 

how to install this mod?I can not get to, I get my plate with a choice of action

I refer you back to the description of the mod:

 

- Once entangled, the victim may attempt to escape using any of three skill sets: Magic, Strength, or Sleight of hand (escape artist).

Strength: Press the "strafe left" (default: A) and "strafe right" (default: D) keys repeatedly to attempt to struggle free. This costs stamina and you cannot struggle if you do not have enough stamina.

 

Magic: Press the "forward" (default: W) and "back" (default: S) keys repeatedly to attempt to use your magic to get free. This costs magicka and you cannot struggle if you do not have enough magicka.

 

Sleight of hand: Or stealth... whatever you want to call it, press "favorites" (default: Q) and "activate" (default E) repeatedly to try and use the deftness in your fingers to get free. This costs stamina and you cannot attempt to get free if you don't have enough.

 

You can adjust the difficulty of escaping in your MCM menu.

Posted

Very interesting mod! 

The vanilla spiders are just too easy to kill. 

 

edit:

 

So I installed Arachnophobia, ran LOOT and the FNIS tool, started Skyrim, loaded my savegame - and I got CTD on loading  :-/

Not sure if it is Arachnophobia that caused the issue, but I got no more CTDs after I uninstalled Arachnophobia. 

 

My load order:

 

GameMode=Skyrim

 

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

TKChildren.esm=1

AOM.esm=1

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1

SGHairPackBase.esm=1

hdtHighHeel.esm=1

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1

SexLab.esm=1

Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1

SexLabAroused.esm=1

TERAArmors.esm=1

ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1

daymoyl.esm=1

Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1

Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=0

HighResTexturePack02.esp=0

HighResTexturePack03.esp=0

BTRH_Tomoe.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1

AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp=1

SGHairPackAIO.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1

AlynShirArmor.esp=1

Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1

GagSFX.esp=1

nightshade_armor.esp=1

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1

AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp=1

CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1

SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp=1

KarliahArmor2.esp=1

Path of Shadows.esp=1

DeviouslyHelpless.esp=1

EliteRogueArmour.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1

SDpatch - dragonborn.esp=1

GagSFXDawnguard.esp=1

CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp=1

HentaiMaxiArmor.esp=1

HentaiVoidArmor.esp=1

TERA Boots n Greaves - for HDT.esp=1

HentaiCasualWears.esp=1

MashupUNP.esp=1

GagSFXDragonborn.esp=1

HentaiGaleArmor.esp=1

HentaiNightmareArmor.esp=1

HentaiKarliahArmor.esp=1

CoT-WeatherPatch.esp=1

GagSFXHearthfires.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1

Mighty Beasts - Werewolf.esp=1

Proper Aiming.esp=1

SOS - Dawnguard Armors.esp=1

DIMclothes1.esp=1

Alexia CatGarter.esp=1

Maxwell Outfit.esp=1

Osare GothicLolita.esp=1

Osare KneeSocks.esp=1

Osare Maid Outfit.esp=1

Osare Swimsuit.esp=1

Osare Underwear.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp=1

SDpatch - dawnguard.esp=1

WetandCold.esp=1

WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1

RichMerchants.esp=1

sanguinesDebauchery.esp=1

Devious Deviants.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp=1

WATER DB Waves.esp=1

fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp=1

SDpatch - frostfall.esp=0

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1

TKChildren_HF.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp=1

AOM.esp=1

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1

Sexy Armor Replacer Patch.esp=1

Captured Dreams.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp=1

WATER DG.esp=1

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1

SOS - Dragonborn Armors.esp=1

SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1

TKChildren_DB.esp=1

UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp=1

zenet_GagQuest.esp=1

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp=1

sextoys-calyps-2.esp=1

SexLabWorkingGirl.esp=1

TKChildren_V.esp=1

SBF All In One + DLC.esp=1

Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp=1

UNP Undies.esp=1

WATER.esp=1

xazPrisonOverhaul.esp=1

ArachnophobiaExpansion.esp=1

LightRoom.esp=1

R18Pn - Inner Wear Set.esp=1

R18Pn - Argent Iron Armor.esp=1

R18Pn - Fiona Armor.esp=1

Ursine Armor Pack.esp=1

WATER Plants.esp=1

BlackSacramentArmor.esp=1

Ish's Respec Mod.esp=1

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1

 

 

 

Also I've uploaded my Papyrus log. 

 

So have I done anything wrong that caused the issue?

Any suggestion on how to fix this?

 

Only thing that comes up to my mind is that your ZAZ might not be up to date. Everything else well, seems fine to me.

Posted

but as it turned out that I was hanging upside down?

 

You're probably using an older version of the mod. Ensure you have the latest version.

Posted

 

Very interesting mod! 

The vanilla spiders are just too easy to kill. 

 

edit:

 

So I installed Arachnophobia, ran LOOT and the FNIS tool, started Skyrim, loaded my savegame - and I got CTD on loading  :-/

Not sure if it is Arachnophobia that caused the issue, but I got no more CTDs after I uninstalled Arachnophobia. 

 

My load order:

 

GameMode=Skyrim

 

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

TKChildren.esm=1

AOM.esm=1

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1

SGHairPackBase.esm=1

hdtHighHeel.esm=1

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1

SexLab.esm=1

Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1

SexLabAroused.esm=1

TERAArmors.esm=1

ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1

daymoyl.esm=1

Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1

Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=0

HighResTexturePack02.esp=0

HighResTexturePack03.esp=0

BTRH_Tomoe.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1

AsharaPrinceOfTheWoods.esp=1

SGHairPackAIO.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1

AlynShirArmor.esp=1

Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1

GagSFX.esp=1

nightshade_armor.esp=1

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp=1

AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp=1

CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1

SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp=1

KarliahArmor2.esp=1

Path of Shadows.esp=1

DeviouslyHelpless.esp=1

EliteRogueArmour.esp=1

ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp=1

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1

SDpatch - dragonborn.esp=1

GagSFXDawnguard.esp=1

CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp=1

HentaiMaxiArmor.esp=1

HentaiVoidArmor.esp=1

TERA Boots n Greaves - for HDT.esp=1

HentaiCasualWears.esp=1

MashupUNP.esp=1

GagSFXDragonborn.esp=1

HentaiGaleArmor.esp=1

HentaiNightmareArmor.esp=1

HentaiKarliahArmor.esp=1

CoT-WeatherPatch.esp=1

GagSFXHearthfires.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1

Mighty Beasts - Werewolf.esp=1

Proper Aiming.esp=1

SOS - Dawnguard Armors.esp=1

DIMclothes1.esp=1

Alexia CatGarter.esp=1

Maxwell Outfit.esp=1

Osare GothicLolita.esp=1

Osare KneeSocks.esp=1

Osare Maid Outfit.esp=1

Osare Swimsuit.esp=1

Osare Underwear.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp=1

SDpatch - dawnguard.esp=1

WetandCold.esp=1

WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1

RichMerchants.esp=1

sanguinesDebauchery.esp=1

Devious Deviants.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp=1

WATER DB Waves.esp=1

fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp=1

SDpatch - frostfall.esp=0

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1

TKChildren_HF.esp=1

SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp=1

AOM.esp=1

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1

Sexy Armor Replacer Patch.esp=1

Captured Dreams.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp=1

WATER DG.esp=1

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1

SOS - Dragonborn Armors.esp=1

SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1

TKChildren_DB.esp=1

UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp=1

zenet_GagQuest.esp=1

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp=1

sextoys-calyps-2.esp=1

SexLabWorkingGirl.esp=1

TKChildren_V.esp=1

SBF All In One + DLC.esp=1

Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp=1

UNP Undies.esp=1

WATER.esp=1

xazPrisonOverhaul.esp=1

ArachnophobiaExpansion.esp=1

LightRoom.esp=1

R18Pn - Inner Wear Set.esp=1

R18Pn - Argent Iron Armor.esp=1

R18Pn - Fiona Armor.esp=1

Ursine Armor Pack.esp=1

WATER Plants.esp=1

BlackSacramentArmor.esp=1

Ish's Respec Mod.esp=1

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1

 

 

 

Also I've uploaded my Papyrus log. 

 

So have I done anything wrong that caused the issue?

Any suggestion on how to fix this?

 

Only thing that comes up to my mind is that your ZAZ might not be up to date. Everything else well, seems fine to me.

 

 

I was using the latest 5.55 version of ZazAnimation, and it worked well with other mods like Captured Dream.

After reading your reply, however, I decided to give it a try by re-installing ZazAnimation - which fixed the issue somehow.

So thanks for the advice!  :)

Posted

I don't understand how this mod works.... In-game, it's really different of what is explain in the main page of the topic: when i 'meet' a spider, she transformes me into a cocoon. Right. But no message appears. I can just press A and D alternatly and sometime a message says me a havn't enough stamina. When the cocoon is complete, me and my followers arn't teleported to the cave but just in a corner of the room with a new big spider who keep us. Again, no message, just A & D.

I use v0.10.1, tested in bleak falls temple, at the beginning. I also have SexLab in v158b, Zaz in v0555 and FNIS in v5.1.1.

Set apart that, this mod is simply brilliant !

Posted

You'll just have to keep trying. It sounds like it's working. You shouldn't get any dialogue messages. You can also be taken to various places, not just that one cave as of the most recent update. You can adjust the difficulty in the MCM. Be advised it won't change the difficulty of the current entanglement - only future ones. If you're really unsure of whether or not it's working, set the difficulties to very low settings (but don't set the escape to low settings).

 

SexLab is not required for this mod. I know this is LL, but this is one of those unusual mods where it doesn't use SexLab. That's not to say SexLab is unusable with this mod, just that it's not required.

Posted

Check the web strength in the MCM page. It has a tendency to default to 3000 or so, rather than the 80 that seems to have been intended

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Is this mod compatible with Zaz 5.62?  I recent started trying out this mod along with SD+ and when i was being punished by the SD+ master, I was getting poisoned and then cocoon as if a spider was attacking me.  (master was a human)  I even got ported to the spider cave at 1 point along with my master.   The spiders killed my master thus freeing me from enslavement but I don't think that is how it is supposed to work :/    I've used SD+ before without Arachnophobia without this issue and I'm wondering if the newest Zaz animation pack may have caused issues with this mod.

Posted

Is this mod compatible with Zaz 5.62?  I recent started trying out this mod along with SD+ and when i was being punished by the SD+ master, I was getting poisoned and then cocoon as if a spider was attacking me.  (master was a human)  I even got ported to the spider cave at 1 point along with my master.   The spiders killed my master thus freeing me from enslavement but I don't think that is how it is supposed to work :/    I've used SD+ before without Arachnophobia without this issue and I'm wondering if the newest Zaz animation pack may have caused issues with this mod.

 

Actually i think i found the culprit.  I was using a mod called Skydie that adds a chance to proc poison on any normal attack.  I'm going to guess that the poison attack was just the spider attack added to normal attacks.

Posted

Is this mod compatible with Zaz 5.62?  I recent started trying out this mod along with SD+ and when i was being punished by the SD+ master, I was getting poisoned and then cocoon as if a spider was attacking me.  (master was a human)  I even got ported to the spider cave at 1 point along with my master.   The spiders killed my master thus freeing me from enslavement but I don't think that is how it is supposed to work :/    I've used SD+ before without Arachnophobia without this issue and I'm wondering if the newest Zaz animation pack may have caused issues with this mod.

 

I see that there is a new ZAP that was released. Currently I'm using 5.55. I'll have to have a look but here's my thoughts on your situation in particular: SD+ looks to also to still be using 5.55. I, too am experimenting with SD+ myself. Currently, apart from an issue I'm having with flowering spriggan, the two are playing nice together.

 

The script that handles the poison and web effects is governed by a magic effect that I made. This magic effect is applied when a spider bites or spits (and hits with either attack) its target. It has only modified the vanilla spider attacks. I must admit, that would be a bit entertaining to see, though...

Posted

 

Is this mod compatible with Zaz 5.62?  I recent started trying out this mod along with SD+ and when i was being punished by the SD+ master, I was getting poisoned and then cocoon as if a spider was attacking me.  (master was a human)  I even got ported to the spider cave at 1 point along with my master.   The spiders killed my master thus freeing me from enslavement but I don't think that is how it is supposed to work :/    I've used SD+ before without Arachnophobia without this issue and I'm wondering if the newest Zaz animation pack may have caused issues with this mod.

 

I see that there is a new ZAP that was released. Currently I'm using 5.55. I'll have to have a look but here's my thoughts on your situation in particular: SD+ looks to also to still be using 5.55. I, too am experimenting with SD+ myself. Currently, apart from an issue I'm having with flowering spriggan, the two are playing nice together.

 

The script that handles the poison and web effects is governed by a magic effect that I made. This magic effect is applied when a spider bites or spits (and hits with either attack) its target. It has only modified the vanilla spider attacks. I must admit, that would be a bit entertaining to see, though...

 

 

I am running arachnophobia with Zaz 5.62 and had 0 issues whatsoever so far. In fact I just had a really fun fight recently with spiders since I have the popular follower mod "Arissa"... to not spoil much of her story there's a quest with her that involves a cave filled with like 10-15 spiders lol.

 

On that note its a bit sad that she's not programmed to be a follower per se, so she kinda breaks most mods that involve something happening to your follower =p.

 

By the way Kazyn I want to take this chance to say that I love your mod!! makes fights with spiders so so much intense and fun!. I hope you continue with our plans on expanding this to dragurs and wisps as you teased months back =p.

 

Great job on this mod! it does make my Skyrim experience a fun one =)

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