Golod Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Hello everyone. (Sorry for my English) I've been messing with SexLab framework trying to add some interactivity to sex scenes, but since I have very little experience with Papyrus and modding I did everything by dirty-hacking directly into framework scripts. I'd like to share my code in hope that it may inspire someone to make a proper mod out of it or give some ideas to framework devs.Features: During sex each partner builds up their own orgasm value (from 0 to 100) at rate that depends on their animation stage enjoyment (generates randomly), so if you don't want to come before your partner, you'll have to switch between stages and poses to find a good one; If one partner comes and the other have >90 orgasm value, they'll come together; Switching pose results in -20 orgasm value for each partner; Sperm effect only applies at male orgasm, sound effects are now separated (that's what .esp file is for). Integration with SexLab Submit:If you fail to bring your partner to orgasm at least once, you'll get -1 relationship rank. Shame on you. Integration with SexLab HentaiPregnancy:Only male orgasm triggers pregnancy. Requirements: SexLab framework v.1.39 (Optional) Submit 11FEB14 2301 (Optional) HentaiPregnancy v.1.19 Install:Use your mod manager or just unpack into data folder and overwrite when asked, don't forget to backup the original files. This mod is not tested, it won't be supported or updated, so don't use it on your main game save. Main Separate Orgasms - SexLab v1.39.7z Optional Separate Orgasms - HentaiPregnancy v1.19.7z Optional Separate Orgasms - Submit11FEB14 2301.7z
Aliris Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 This is an awesome, awesome idea. I hope someone keeps working at it - and thank you for posting what you've done so far!
Shinobi7 Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Definately going to play with your mod! it reminds me of Oblivion LoversPK system This would be great along with SexLab Describe type sentences! ("You feel your orgasm building up..." / You cum as your partner can't hold on anymore" etc etc)
Darkening Demise Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Inserting-I MEAN....interesting. >.> A little more realism and making it more interactive.
Guest Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Does this mod make it so that characters will no longer orgasm by performing oral sex?
Aceto Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 That makes sex scenes really challenging. I like it, I love it..please you have my go!
Golod Posted February 27, 2014 Author Posted February 27, 2014 Does this mod make it so that characters will no longer orgasm by performing oral sex? No, all positions works the same. Good idea though.
AlerictheNord Posted February 27, 2014 Posted February 27, 2014 Testing, and all seems to work great, really cool and finally some interaction during the sex scenes. Two Minor issues, while the HentaiPregnancy plugin work fine, the Submit plugin always says I failed to satisfy my partner despite him orgasming multiple times. Second, the orgasm-meter seems to build a tad fast. EDIT: Figured out the problem, it seems that having sex with current-followers is a tad glitchy, other than that the mod works fine as far as I can tell. Edit2: Nope, that didn't fix, still can't get the Submit plugin to tell me anything other than "You failed to satisfy your partner." Regardless, awesome plugin.
AlerictheNord Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 Bug Report: With the HentaiPregnancy plugin, it now seems that male orgasms always trigger pregnancies, regardless of percentage or 'where' the orgasm is occurring (anal, vaginal, oral).
hryh23k9823u Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 Great. Always though that Sexlab was missing some point if sex didn't involve any mecanic. This is still a game, y'know. Moving your character pelvis yourself when fucking Lydia with the stick, mouse, WASD, etc. This is something in the right direction I think. Happy cause I mostly use Submit alone in my game lately. Gonna install this in my main save, cause I like danger.
Golod Posted February 28, 2014 Author Posted February 28, 2014 Edit2: Nope, that didn't fix, still can't get the Submit plugin to tell me anything other than "You failed to satisfy your partner." With the HentaiPregnancy plugin, it now seems that male orgasms always trigger pregnancies, regardless of percentage or 'where' the orgasm is occurring (anal, vaginal, oral). This is weird since I didn't alter the existent HentaiPregnancy checks but mereley added another one. I can only suggest you trying it on a fresh new game.
AlerictheNord Posted February 28, 2014 Posted February 28, 2014 Edit2: Nope, that didn't fix, still can't get the Submit plugin to tell me anything other than "You failed to satisfy your partner." With the HentaiPregnancy plugin, it now seems that male orgasms always trigger pregnancies, regardless of percentage or 'where' the orgasm is occurring (anal, vaginal, oral). This is weird since I didn't alter the existent HentaiPregnancy checks but mereley added another one. I can only suggest you trying it on a fresh new game. That fixed it. Everything seems to work as advertised, awesome mod.
luckylilly Posted March 1, 2014 Posted March 1, 2014 A very nice idea and it works so for so good. I have one question. How do you get more than 1 orgasm ? As soon as 1 Char comes the animation will end. I did manged to get more than one but only if i switch stages in the moment the orgasm happens. Is this how it should work (since partner loses %) or do i do something wrong ? Maybe playing without auto advance stage ? But than it is too easy for both to come. I also think using pre sexuel foreplay is messing up something. Another idea. Would it be possible to let your partner come faster if you are more skilled in "sex" ? Would give the journal a real meaning. thanx anyway !
Golod Posted March 1, 2014 Author Posted March 1, 2014 I have one question. How do you get more than 1 orgasm ? As soon as 1 Char comes the animation will end. Don't know if it's a bug or something related to your SexLab settings, try it on a new game. By default you should be able to go back from orgasm stage by pressing Shift+Space or by switching pose. UPD: yeah, I recommend turning auto-advance off. Another idea. Would it be possible to let your partner come faster if you are more skilled in "sex" ? I don't see why not, but that would require a lot of effort to make it right and immersive.
luckylilly Posted March 1, 2014 Posted March 1, 2014 Oh if it is intend to use shift+space than everything works find. I thought the point is to get as many orgasm for both or together as you can, in the given time (auto advance). Great feature. I like the immersion sexlab gave my game... but it was kinda boring just to look at some "porn" after time. My Dovahkin was not having much sex in the last games ... your mod brought new fun =) Btw my idea was: Auto advance on. (their have to be a time, would be pointless without) If player is male: You have 1 orgasm at the end like default. More skill in sex = more Orgasm for your partners in the given time. If player is female. You have muliples orgasm. How much/quick depends on your skill in sex. Your male partner has 1 orgasm default at the ending (auto ddvance). Player female and partner female could hav both multiple orgasm. Player male and partner male ... difficult... it s not that easy to have more than one in such a short time ... or i am just getting old =) And since this all would only be "fun" with auto advance on ... (thas just my opinon) female orgasm woul set you 1 or 2 stages back (maybe random) So you would se "progress" in your sex skill =) Sry for my bad english and i know you don't wanted to progress with this any further. I just had to post my thought. Anyway thx for this gread little mod !
MarkusCook Posted March 1, 2014 Posted March 1, 2014 Great work. I hope that someone will contiune your work. I was waiting for something similar to Lovers with PK Extender. That's what we need right now.
Emberheart Posted March 1, 2014 Posted March 1, 2014 I love the idea of that mod. And perhaps the PC and NPC's can 'level up' during sex, where a novice level has a risk of premature ejaculation, losing the mood and what not.
hentaijin Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Very interesting mod! I'd like to see something where you can control the animation(like speeding up or slowing down,ect.) which would effect the orgasm value. I think that would probably require a lot of work, but has potential to be something very nice.
Golod Posted March 2, 2014 Author Posted March 2, 2014 I'm experimenting with the idea of manual control (like in good old Illusion games), if anyone knows how to edit fnis behavior files, please, let me know.
Emberheart Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Mouse control, take it gentle and slow, or slap that mouse like there's no tomorrow. Alternately, Dance Dance Revolution mechanics. xD "Up, up, down, down, up, down, spacebar! Excellent."
crusher Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 There is a really simple mod called Exhaustion. Were these events as 'manual controls' tied to stamina, you'd have a plugin already available to give the feedback for sexual stamina. Tried this mod for only a few minute; ended up turning off health/stamina/magic bars and haven't looked back.
WaxenFigure Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 I'm experimenting with the idea of manual control (like in good old Illusion games), if anyone knows how to edit fnis behavior files, please, let me know. Talk to Fore, he's the master of animations and what can be done or cannot be done. http://www.loverslab.com/topic/17067-fnis-for-modders-fnis-40-wip/
Aethyri Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 As soon as I saw this mod, I knew I was interested, and I was not disappointed in functionality. Actual and potential. I do agree with previous posters that the rates could build up rather quick, but then other times too, they also seemed slow. Especially in the non-consent scenes where the victim was achieving climax faster than the assailant. I also encountered a bug that with manual transition for victims turned off, many times if not all times, the animations would not stop even after reaching the time limit and gallons worth of climaxes. Another bug was not applying the cum textures and indicating for other mods that the female (PC in my case) had been cum inside of. For future development, to whoever wants to take up the mantle of this great mod I would suggest the following. I. MCM Menu - Adjustable time/rate to orgasm settings for both M and F. - Features to switch multiple orgasms on/off. (Possibly include hard upper limit to number of Orgasms and a % chance to keep going after first Orgasm.) - Feature to switch End All Animations at Male/Female/Aggressor/Both Orgasm. (It doesn't make much sense to me that in the Non Con scenes, the aggressor stops when the Victim has release and they don't. - The other parts of this would be for preference. If people want the males to climax then roll over and go to sleep, the females to be satisfied before nappage, or for both to be blissfully screwed.) II. Optional Plugin - Tie in to Sexual Experience (Following the PC with a sufficiently high number of sexual acts performed or NPC's marked as having carnal knowledge (I'm looking at you Sisterhood of Dibella and tavern wenches. >.>) their rate increase should/would slow, while their partners would increase as a reflection of their ability. This could be a scaling modifier too, and/or tied into each act. Great with oral, not so much otherwise for example. (For extra fun, some random NPCs could be marked as carnal champions. Seek them out across the lands to reap their.... knowledge. <.<;;; ) As I've often said, I'm not a modder/coder in any sense of the words. I can tweak simple things, but tasks like this that seem simple to even me, are way above my abilities. Regardless, great mod, and I'd love to keep using it. Just need to get the timer fixed, manual control just never sits well with me. T.T
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