956425640 Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 http://bbs.3dmgame.com/forum.php 这是3DM ，http://game.ali213.net/这是游侠，这2个网站的利益之争， 无论什么事情只要和利益扯上关系，总有着无穷无尽的黑幕。3DM与游侠网，大概就是这其中的一个典型案例。 许多年前，3DM还是一个以汉化illusion公司游戏为主的论坛+网站，因为众所周知的（illusion游戏受欢迎的）原因，3DM一直在该领域有极高的人气。而就在某一年，噩耗传来，3DM被公安局查封，3DM的老大鸟姐（ID：不死鸟）被以传播色情内容为由逮捕，并且被判10个月。而在这件事情的幕后呢，则是游侠网向公安部门举报的结果。当然，假如你并不熟悉这其中的牵绊，大概会以为，传播yinhui思想，自然该被抓。但话说回来，在中国，真正搞色情业的站点多了去了，而3DM不过是以汉化为主的非盈利论坛，为何会被盯上呢？游侠网这个名字，在玩家界也该算是响当当的。一方面，它有以游戏修改器大而全的游侠补丁网，此外，又有大型的游戏汉化论坛，再算上其主业是游戏资讯新闻站点，游侠网可以说是一个在游戏修改和汉化方面一等一的公司。当然，可能大多数人还有所不知，国内著名的盗版品牌“藏经阁”，也正是游侠网所属公司经营的。当然，这并不是我要说的。游侠网最卑鄙的地方在于，对于同行采取极为恶劣的排挤与打击的行为。我也算是3DM的资深会员，有很久的历史了。不知从何时起，3DM就常常出现无法访问或者访问缓慢的问题，原因？是来自游侠网的ddos攻击。（什么是DDos？就是用大量的主机，对网站服务器发送大量无效数据包，使得网站服务器疲于处理无效数据包而无法正常工作。这是极为恶劣并且几乎无法防御的攻击方式）应该说，对于一个在业界赫赫有名的公司，做出如此卑鄙的事情，已经难以配上其知名度。更令人难以置信的说，这样的攻击并不是偶尔的一次两次，而是经常性的，大规模的。这已经算是赤裸裸的强盗行为了。但游侠网所做的事情还远不如此。从去年起，游侠网上下载的安装软件，居然被发现会修改本机的hosts文件（实际效果就是使得你无法用浏览器直接访问3DM的任何页面）。而到前段时间不久，这样的手段甚至开始被使用在其“藏经阁”系列的盗版光碟中。游侠网想尽办法“封杀”3DM。所以，当初游侠举报3DM，让鸟姐蹲了10个月的牢狱，目的都是为其自身的利益而已。反正有时3DM被DOS攻击，前几天还被文化局封停，能活下来真实奇迹
myuhinny Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 No clue translator makes whatever it's suppose to be about pretty hard to understand but it does remind me to go the 3dm and see if there is anything new to look at. Never heard of the other site before.
Spyder Arachnid Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 It's basically a complaint about http://game.ali213.net/, which I assume is another Elder Scrolls mod site. Saying that they are making attacks on 3DM and are trying to get 3DM shut down and stuff. Yet their site promotes pornography and piracy and even some of their mods have virus in them, and nothing is happening to them. It's even gotten to the point where legal are starting to take action against 3DM. At least, that's what I got out of it.
Slammer64 Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Doesn't do much to complain about it here, we don't have anything to do with it, even if we understood what he was saying.
Rayblue Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Doesn't do much to complain about it here, we don't have anything to do with it, even if we understood what he was saying. Nothing much for us to do at all, considering that it's a forum/hacking war being waged inside China... and the potential revenue to be made from selling user details for marketing purposes.
gvman3670 Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 So the Chinese modding sites are having a DDoS attack war or something? It must be happening at a snail's pace then with those slow Chinese computers and servers.
Rayblue Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 So the Chinese modding sites are having a DDoS attack war or something? It must be happening at a snail's pace then with those slow Chinese computers and servers. Hmmm... Nexus isn't the only one. As for whatever they use as gaming rigs, much of their hardware is manufactured locally, anywhere from processors, mobos to casings and monitors... even gaming mice and keyboards. And don't forget that China has several supercomputers still in use. Internet access, although fast in some places, remains under government control, but strangely they're lenient when it comes to spam servers, gold farms, cybersquatting, and state-sponsored black-hat hacking.
Dagimpyman Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 Internet access, although fast in some places, remains under government control, but strangely they're lenient when it comes to spam servers, gold farms, cybersquatting, and state-sponsored black-hat hacking. And why would they not be? Things like that don't challenge the state's authority in any way regardless of their status of legality (I do not know Chinese law, so I can't comment on that aspect). It's smart censorship - block certain critical things but ignore everything else that is illegal so people can still feel edgy and rebellious without actually being a threat to the government. As for the purpose of this thread, I do not know what to say.
TSS5062 Posted February 21, 2014 Posted February 21, 2014 I followed a link, from a forum here on LL, to this site. They had a modified version of the bukkake spell bundled with my SexLab Sperm Replacer textures. I have mixed feelings about that. When I tried to open the textures in Photoshop I got a blue screen crash. I've been running multiple virus scans ever since.
Rayblue Posted February 22, 2014 Posted February 22, 2014 Internet access, although fast in some places, remains under government control, but strangely they're lenient when it comes to spam servers, gold farms, cybersquatting, and state-sponsored black-hat hacking. And why would they not be? Things like that don't challenge the state's authority in any way regardless of their status of legality (I do not know Chinese law, so I can't comment on that aspect). It's smart censorship - block certain critical things but ignore everything else that is illegal so people can still feel edgy and rebellious without actually being a threat to the government. As for the purpose of this thread, I do not know what to say. Anything that makes money for them except dissent -- that's how they operate their networks.
Guest Ragna_Rok Posted February 22, 2014 Posted February 22, 2014 I followed a link, from a forum here on LL, to this site. They had a modified version of the bukkake spell bundled with my SexLab Sperm Replacer textures. I have mixed feelings about that. When I tried to open the textures in Photoshop I got a blue screen crash. I've been running multiple virus scans ever since. welcome to the webz. last time i found one of my armors on a russian site, i downloaded it, opened it, crash. fucking virus. after cleaning for being on the safe side i flattened and reinstalled my complete system and learned a valuable lesson... dont load shit everywhere! next time i noticed shit like that, even the filesize was about 20% of what i originally made. since i didnt wanna download that crap, i compressed my files as much as i could, and didnt even come close to the size of those 20%. if you folks dont get my files from TESAlliance (or here, i consider reupload on LL), then STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM THEM! its shit like this why i make strict reupload permissions, so that folks that now my mods and once in a while read my descriptions know that im not suddenly uploading in russia or china.
rance Posted February 23, 2014 Posted February 23, 2014 http://bbs.3dmgame.com/forum.php 这是3DM ，http://game.ali213.net/这是游侠，这2个网站的利益之争， 无论什么事情只要和利益扯上关系，总有着无穷无尽的黑幕。3DM与游侠网，大概就是这其中的一个典型案例。 许多年前，3DM还是一个以汉化illusion公司游戏为主的论坛+网站，因为众所周知的（illusion游戏受欢迎的）原因，3DM一直在该领域有极高的人气。而就在某一年，噩耗传来，3DM被公安局查封，3DM的老大鸟姐（ID：不死鸟）被以传播色情内容为由逮捕，并且被判10个月。而在这件事情的幕后呢，则是游侠网向公安部门举报的结果。当然，假如你并不熟悉这其中的牵绊，大概会以为，传播yinhui思想，自然该被抓。但话说回来，在中国，真正搞色情业的站点多了去了，而3DM不过是以汉化为主的非盈利论坛，为何会被盯上呢？游侠网这个名字，在玩家界也该算是响当当的。一方面，它有以游戏修改器大而全的游侠补丁网，此外，又有大型的游戏汉化论坛，再算上其主业是游戏资讯新闻站点，游侠网可以说是一个在游戏修改和汉化方面一等一的公司。当然，可能大多数人还有所不知，国内著名的盗版品牌“藏经阁”，也正是游侠网所属公司经营的。当然，这并不是我要说的。游侠网最卑鄙的地方在于，对于同行采取极为恶劣的排挤与打击的行为。我也算是3DM的资深会员，有很久的历史了。不知从何时起，3DM就常常出现无法访问或者访问缓慢的问题，原因？是来自游侠网的ddos攻击。（什么是DDos？就是用大量的主机，对网站服务器发送大量无效数据包，使得网站服务器疲于处理无效数据包而无法正常工作。这是极为恶劣并且几乎无法防御的攻击方式）应该说，对于一个在业界赫赫有名的公司，做出如此卑鄙的事情，已经难以配上其知名度。更令人难以置信的说，这样的攻击并不是偶尔的一次两次，而是经常性的，大规模的。这已经算是赤裸裸的强盗行为了。但游侠网所做的事情还远不如此。从去年起，游侠网上下载的安装软件，居然被发现会修改本机的hosts文件（实际效果就是使得你无法用浏览器直接访问3DM的任何页面）。而到前段时间不久，这样的手段甚至开始被使用在其“藏经阁”系列的盗版光碟中。游侠网想尽办法“封杀”3DM。所以，当初游侠举报3DM，让鸟姐蹲了10个月的牢狱，目的都是为其自身的利益而已。反正有时3DM被DOS攻击，前几天还被文化局封停，能活下来真实奇迹
Rayblue Posted February 24, 2014 Posted February 24, 2014 TL;DR, he's talking about a Denial of Service that brought down 3DM.
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