New Obsidian based Fallout on the horizon!

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

What are your thoughts? Do you think it will be half decent, or do you expect it to be a steaming pile of brown stuff?

[Mazhen]

Given the fact that the current Obsidian made Avowed and Outer Worlds 2, im not holding my breath.

[SirDuke]

Not gonna say "no" to a new Fallout game...

BUT:
Still waiting for the seggs to happen in Oblivion Remastered.
Since there's currently nothing going on in those forums either, I don't have high hopes for just another Beth game to be seggsy.
 

[Raine_Hyd]

They did make New vegas but that was like a decade ago. Their most recent games have been oof. So it's a wait and see. If they use a different engine than the known CK then modding will be GG.

[MadMansGun]

52 minutes ago, Raine_Hyd said:

They did make New vegas

no they did not, no one working at obsidian now had anything to do with FONV.

they may as well rename the company to "dog shit is us"

Edited Tuesday at 06:51 PM by MadMansGun

[davisev5225]

Yeah, not hopeful.  I have no nostalgia for older Fallout games whatsoever, but I can look at The Outer Wilds 1 and 2 and realize that Obsidian can't really make a good game anymore.

[Captain Cobra]

I think John Gonzalez rejoined Obsidian not too long ago so it mite b cool, as long as it's not a direct sequel to New Vegas.

[plutocene]

It's hard to say. My first question would be, are they moving on from the creation engine (highly likely) and how will this affect modding support? Will modding continue to be a core pillar of the game design or just an addon?? Since Xbox is the core focus platform, I'm inclined to believe it won't deliver in this regard, thus for me it likely will not deliver.

[FauxFurry]

It is at least 10 years (it is closer to 15) too late for this to have the benefits that many people hailing this as Fallout salvation are expecting. Not only has the composition of Obsidian changed since the release of Fallout New Vegas, even that staff have changed for better or worse wherever they have gone.

I do not want modern day Tim Cain anywhere near Fallout not that the others have proven that they still have their mojo judging by any of their more recent projects.

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

My thoughts are that I'm not expecting anything mind blowing. Honestly, I'm expecting it to play kind of like The Outer Worlds, which felt a bit like NV at times.

[shrtjsrtj]

Josh Sawyer directed FONV and he's directing this, he also did both of the Pillars of Eternity games and they were fine. It's not a total write off but there are are a lot of questions that will need good answers before I get my hopes up.

[Kisin]

As people have pointed out, its a Ship of Theseus problem with Obsidian, but any change is worth keeping an eye out.

 

At this point it can only go up for Fallout (I really hope I don't have to eat those words later).

 

Another part of me thinks that it might be time to end Fallout too. I'm sort of sick of things getting constant sequels/prequels/spinoffs with diminishing returns. I don't need a FNV remake, I can boot up the original whenever I like and it already has a decent modding scene established.

[Wandering_Mania]

I think it's gonna be woke propaganda and complete shit. There's a reason no one like Avowed; And can we really expect anything different, simply because it has the name 'Fallout' slapped on it?

I think not.

 

The people who made 'Fallout: New Vegas' haven't been in cryo-storage for the past 10 years. They have been absorbing the same 'Mind Virus' that the rest of the corrupt AAA industry has. And it ain't gonna be anything like the 'Games of old'. Because Obsidian has done exactly what the other AAA studios have been doing; Looked at their 'core audience', and saw an enemy to be combated. 

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

14 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said:

I think it's gonna be woke propaganda and complete shit. There's a reason no one like Avowed; And can we really expect anything different, simply because it has the name 'Fallout' slapped on it?

I think not.

 

The people who made 'Fallout: New Vegas' haven't been in cryo-storage for the past 10 years. They have been absorbing the same 'Mind Virus' that the rest of the corrupt AAA industry has. And it ain't gonna be anything like the 'Games of old'. Because Obsidian has done exactly what the other AAA studios have been doing; Looked at their 'core audience', and saw an enemy to be combated. 

 

This is the thing that scares me the most, honestly. It's like wokeness kills creativity to make room for itself in the minds that it takes up residence in.

[flutie]

along with all the develpor cuts going on at microsoft, dont doubt they will cut experience for new, less skilled, cheaper work force. 18 month development  out the window, so not gonna wait till 2030. Like zombie said, politics will be involved and we will have another dustborn or concord in the wasteland. Hopefully i am wrong, but gaming corporate not listening to gamers

[Wandering_Mania]

7 hours ago, flutie said:

along with all the develpor cuts going on at microsoft, dont doubt they will cut experience for new, less skilled, cheaper work force. 18 month development  out the window, so not gonna wait till 2030. Like zombie said, politics will be involved and we will have another dustborn or concord in the wasteland. Hopefully i am wrong, but gaming corporate not listening to gamers

Exactly. They say 'politics are everywhere', while they shove their politics and agendas in our faces. They make it their entire identity, any anyone who disagrees, is immediately accused of 'bullying and harassment'. Yet they are the ones who have invaded our hobby, and are actively causing it's destruction and collapse. They are like termites. They infested the core structure, and eaten out the foundation; And all we have now is a rotted out hollow frame, that is only fit to be condemned. They call us "Nazis" and "Bigots"; While while they burn creativity, and silence the opposition. They call us 'ists' and 'phobes', while they are so afraid of us speaking out against them, because they have no argument to our rational, and logical thoughts. They can't even define what a woman is, and they say 'men can give birth'. They deny reality at every point and turn, and they call us 'Problematic'.

 

No. No there's no way a games industry filled with brain rotted people like that, can make a good game. And I applaud Microsoft for 'cutting the fat'. Maybe the developers will start to see that their 'protected status' no longer holds any sway. And that the Meritocracy is coming back with a major vengeance.

[Coding_Onion]

Oi, i don't want to be the buzzkill, but i am quite sure there was a rule about discussing politics on this site.

 

Also, @Wandering_Mania you are directly inhumanizing people in your rethoric which is a can of worms i don't want to touch, but can't really let the elephant stay in the room so to speak.

 

I'd agree to the extend that art by big publishers in general aren't a fountain of great ideas/innovation by the nature of the business.

New Vegas was really 'lightning in a bottle' where the original team of a game had the chance to finish their arc that began with fallout 1 and a lot of dna was originally meant to be the 'van buren'-project, so they had their plans mostly already laid out in a way.

 

I mean, the 'lord of the rings' movies were also a huge risk with a long pre-production cycle and it worked out.

[Wandering_Mania]

2 hours ago, Coding_Onion said:

Oi, i don't want to be the buzzkill, but i am quite sure there was a rule about discussing politics on this site.

And that's the conundrum isn't it? How can we avoid talking about it, when they push it into our hobby of video games? We can't speak about it, yet they force it into the same topic.

 

2 hours ago, Coding_Onion said:

you are directly inhumanizing people in your rethoric which is a can of worms i don't want to touch, but can't really let the elephant stay in the room so to speak.

Well, when they treat us like a enemy to be combated, we will become their enemy. And when two sets of enemies collide, that is war. As the Warhammer 40k Eldar saying goes:

"Mercy is a luxury, one that we can no longer afford."

[Coding_Onion]

Well, like i said, i'm not going to start a discussion on that.

 

I just don't think 40k is a really good place to build your ethos for your real life on since (modern) 40k has a thing for going as grimdank as possible so it can soley focus on making spacemarines look like badasses, which is a bit silly imo (but it seems to let gw make bank on it, so... profit?).

[Wandering_Mania]

46 minutes ago, Coding_Onion said:

I just don't think 40k is a really good place to build your ethos for your real life on since (modern) 40k has a thing for going as grimdank as possible so it can soley focus on making spacemarines look like badasses, which is a bit silly imo (but it seems to let gw make bank on it, so... profit?).

Who in their right mind plays 'modern 40k'?

I stick to the 'Dawn of War 1' era (about 2004). You know, when it was actually good and not corrupted. Sure it's 22 years out of date, but it's a lot better than the slop they push out now.

[Z0mBieP00Nani]

5 hours ago, Wandering_Mania said:

Who in their right mind plays 'modern 40k'?

I stick to the 'Dawn of War 1' era (about 2004). You know, when it was actually good and not corrupted. Sure it's 22 years out of date, but it's a lot better than the slop they push out now.

 

 

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