Nerfed Followers

[darkdesires04]

On 12/1/2025 at 2:52 AM, pinkfluf said:

That would be great if you could, I usually use simple defeat but for nerfed followers mod I installed acheron and disabled my usual defeat mod. Regretted it immediately, came across npcs (toaming bandits that clashed with guards) in a bleed out state due to acherons hunters pride, disabling it prior didn't work. Ended up removing it. 

 

I got around to it today. Tested a few defeat scenarios without Acheron, and tweaked Nerfed Followers for these changes.

 

I will upload an update 1.4 along with a no Acheron version. Hopefully it will work as expected.

 

 

[darkdesires04]

14 hours ago, Ark2012 said:

For some reason the MCM menu does not show up for me, although there are new dialogue options for [Inspect] and [Push Away] that showed up (don't do anything if I choose them though). Are there any known incompatibilities that would cause this? 

 

I don't know of anything that would cause the MCM not to show up.

[spotmark8]

On 12/1/2025 at 11:26 PM, darkdesires04 said:

 

I see. I can fix it, if what you are saying is after the defeat sex scene starts, they revert back to the defeat pose.

 

Correct!

 

The Sequence is they get knocked down and go into the archeron death idle on their knees and hand, if you wait long enough during combat, they go into the sitting idle. If you get knocked then Acheron will knock everyone down again forcing the hands and knees idle, after that the scene will start either Simple Defeat with the struggle Animation or YK which starts the animation straight away. The scene will play but then they will go right back to the sitting idle breaking the animation

 

Sorry for the long post, hopefully this helps for testing.

Edited December 3, 2025 by spotmark8

[Ark2012]

12 hours ago, darkdesires04 said:

 

I don't know of anything that would cause the MCM not to show up.

 

This is really weird. Everything in game and in Vortex shows that the plugin is active, and I get the dialogue options to show up. I can even find the scripts and various related options by console command. But for some reason it seems like none of the scripts are actually activating. 

 

This might be a more general problem, since it appears like I am the only one who has it. But for some reason this only applies to this mod in my game. 

 

Is it possible for the mod to have any other dependency that was not listed? That's the only thing I can think of. 

 

EDIT: I installed Papyrus Tweak (https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/77779?tab=description) and the [Inspect] and [Push Away] Dialogue options suddenly started working, so I guess there is some dependencies that were not listed. 

Edited December 3, 2025 by Ark2012

[deekaycy]

Hi everyone! hopefully someone can assist.

 

My logs keep get flooded with the below message

[12/03/2025 - 01:50:47PM] [ddnf] Searching for actor close to defeated follower: Bell found: [Actor < (28023527)>] : bandit is hostile: False

Is there any way to get it sorted? I hope DDNF stands for nerfed follower mod and i'm at the right place to ask this.

 

The reason i'd like to sort it out is cause it spams that into the log every second and it floods the log with the message.

 

From my understanding Bell follower got defeated ( i never visited the location she is at. She's located at meridia's statue close to Solitude as her mod author says) and she doesn't get captured due to the npc close to her not being a bandit? Maybe if i go there i can do something? like revive her etc?

 

Please let me know if i should provide mod order etc. Tho i think it's not needed? I can provide it if it is needed tho.

 

Thank in advance for any assistance!

 

Also do tell if it's safe to ignore and won't break things. 

[darkdesires04]

1 hour ago, deekaycy said:

Hi everyone! hopefully someone can assist.

 

My logs keep get flooded with the below message

[12/03/2025 - 01:50:47PM] [ddnf] Searching for actor close to defeated follower: Bell found: [Actor < (28023527)>] : bandit is hostile: False

Is there any way to get it sorted? I hope DDNF stands for nerfed follower mod and i'm at the right place to ask this.

 

The reason i'd like to sort it out is cause it spams that into the log every second and it floods the log with the message.

 

From my understanding Bell follower got defeated ( i never visited the location she is at. She's located at meridia's statue close to Solitude as her mod author says) and she doesn't get captured due to the npc close to her not being a bandit? Maybe if i go there i can do something? like revive her etc?

 

Please let me know if i should provide mod order etc. Tho i think it's not needed? I can provide it if it is needed tho.

 

Thank in advance for any assistance!

 

Also do tell if it's safe to ignore and won't break things. 

 

That's just a debug message I put in while developing the mod when searching for a nearby NPC to enslave a defeated follower. It's not a bug. You can disable the functionality in the MCM, just by setting the follower enslavement chance to zero.

 

 

 

[deekaycy]

1 hour ago, darkdesires04 said:

 

That's just a debug message I put in while developing the mod when searching for a nearby NPC to enslave a defeated follower. It's not a bug. You can disable the functionality in the MCM, just by setting the follower enslavement chance to zero.

 

 

 

Aah okay, thanks for the prompt response! Will do And thanks for the awesome mod too!

[Kanlaon]

Thanks for the mod. It is something I always wanted to have for my playthrough. 

I don't know how well NFF performs compared to EFF.

(I used AFT before, which had more features, but the performance was terrible compared to EFF.)

 

Regards

 

[barumpa]

following in hope that this mod will become compatible with EFF

[pinkfluf]

On 12/2/2025 at 3:44 PM, darkdesires04 said:

I will upload an update 1.4 along with a no Acheron version. Hopefully it will work as expected.

Thanks, got around to testing today, went to fort amol with 3 followers, 2 got defeated and enslaved and 1 was sat down severely injured. Once I defeated the baddies the enslaved followers reappeared (with all gear and weapons intact).

 

Went a bit further past the bridge towards whiterun and fought again, all 3 followers got enslaved (I ran away). Once I killed all the bad guys 1 follower came back but without their gear and just wearing hide pants  and another got carted off to House of Grey Mayne in whiterun so I guess FSM is working with no acheron version. In captive player I have strip only & robbery disabled for both so I wonder what it could be?

 

Also is it possible to heal downed followers from afar if I'm a healer? thanks

[darkdesires04]

On 12/21/2025 at 7:52 PM, barumpa said:

following in hope that this mod will become compatible with EFF

 

I probably won't take the time to do that unless EFF gets new updates, but who knows...

[darkdesires04]

36 minutes ago, pinkfluf said:

Thanks, got around to testing today, went to fort amol with 3 followers, 2 got defeated and enslaved and 1 was sat down severely injured. Once I defeated the baddies the enslaved followers reappeared (with all gear and weapons intact).

 

Went a bit further past the bridge towards whiterun and fought again, all 3 followers got enslaved (I ran away). Once I killed all the bad guys 1 follower came back but without their gear and just wearing hide pants  and another got carted off to House of Grey Mayne in whiterun so I guess FSM is working with no acheron version. In captive player I have strip only & robbery disabled for both so I wonder what it could be?

 

Also is it possible to heal downed followers from afar if I'm a healer? thanks

 

I will check if there is a bug in robbery... As far as healing from afar, sure it can be done if you know such a spell.

[JohnConquest12]

So would this mod work with any defeat mod? I'm using both naked defeat and practical defeat with acheron patches so both work together

[darkdesires04]

On 12/26/2025 at 5:37 PM, JohnConquest12 said:

So would this mod work with any defeat mod? I'm using both naked defeat and practical defeat with acheron patches so both work together

 

Sorry, for the late reply. It will probably work. I haven't tested with those mods.

[nikkai]

Sorry if I missed this.any way to assist with follower recovery? Love the nerf. A little odd to have bloodied followers while wandering around town

[JhonnatanV]

Hi, I don't know much about mods, so I have a question: is it safe to remove it mid-game?

[darkdesires04]

10 hours ago, JhonnatanV said:

Hi, I don't know much about mods, so I have a question: is it safe to remove it mid-game?

 

Most mods including this one are not safe to remove mid game. The only few exceptions are mods without an esp or esm file, and they can be removed.

 

 

[darkdesires04]

On 1/15/2026 at 4:13 PM, nikkai said:

Sorry if I missed this.any way to assist with follower recovery? Love the nerf. A little odd to have bloodied followers while wandering around town

 

No way right now, except to sleep or wait. They recover as time passes by. I could add something in the future.

[tks1992]

does this work with banes defeat?

[sdddll]

Don't know why but sometimes after intensive fight game will crash and below information will popup. I am not sure it's 100% relate to this mod but may highly relevant.

[pinkfluf]

Hi

 

When I go to a new area and my follower hasn't quite caught up NFF will teleport him but he suddenly becomes severly injured (even though theres no enemies around). I'm assuming he's teleporting and dropping from a distance, is there a way to check if if player isincombat or going to a new area? thanks

[darkdesires04]

17 hours ago, pinkfluf said:

Hi

 

When I go to a new area and my follower hasn't quite caught up NFF will teleport him but he suddenly becomes severly injured (even though theres no enemies around). I'm assuming he's teleporting and dropping from a distance, is there a way to check if if player isincombat or going to a new area? thanks

 

It happens to me too in rare cases. I already check for combat, so I will have to think of another solution. 
 

[ofenbackfisch]

Hi,

I just noticed that my followers are no longer getting enslaved. After doing some testing and checking the Papyrus log, I downgraded back to version 1.4, and everything started working again.

Would you mind taking a look on your end to see if this might be related to the latest update? It’s also possible that the issue is on my side, but I wanted to let you know in case something broke between versions.

 

 

Spoiler

[02/14/2026 - 01:49:09PM] [ddnf] Defeated follower Solvi can be enslaved: True
[02/14/2026 - 01:49:09PM] [ddnf] Searching for actor close to defeated follower: Solvi distance: 6325.438965 lastAggressor: [Actor < (FF001D0A)>]
[02/14/2026 - 01:49:09PM] [ddnf] Couldn't find aggressor to enslave: Solvi checked slaveMasters: [[Actor < (0009009B)>], None, None, None, None, None, None, None, None, None] maxDistance: 3000.000000
[02/14/2026 - 01:49:09PM] [ddnf] - SitWounded Solvi ragdolling: False

 

 

[johnhamm]

21 hours ago, ofenbackfisch said:

Hi,

I just noticed that my followers are no longer getting enslaved. After doing some testing and checking the Papyrus log, I downgraded back to version 1.4, and everything started working again.

Would you mind taking a look on your end to see if this might be related to the latest update? It’s also possible that the issue is on my side, but I wanted to let you know in case something broke between versions.

 

 

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[02/14/2026 - 01:49:09PM] [ddnf] Defeated follower Solvi can be enslaved: True
[02/14/2026 - 01:49:09PM] [ddnf] Searching for actor close to defeated follower: Solvi distance: 6325.438965 lastAggressor: [Actor < (FF001D0A)>]
[02/14/2026 - 01:49:09PM] [ddnf] Couldn't find aggressor to enslave: Solvi checked slaveMasters: [[Actor < (0009009B)>], None, None, None, None, None, None, None, None, None] maxDistance: 3000.000000
[02/14/2026 - 01:49:09PM] [ddnf] - SitWounded Solvi ragdolling: False

 

 

 

Are you using the Acheron or no Acheron version?

[ofenbackfisch]

On 2/15/2026 at 11:16 AM, johnhamm said:

 

Are you using the Acheron or no Acheron version?

Im using the Acheron version. I havent had the time to play the last couple of days, but i think the same problem, to some extend, plagues version 1.4 too. So i think something in my load order is interfering with Nerfed Followers.