SILENT HILL f Mods

[EelzLab]

2 hours ago, DoctaSax said:

 

That's not true, as far as I know. See section C here. 

 

This one gets brought up a lot. I'm no lawyer. Not sure if you are either. Interpreting law in of itself is not exactly an easy thing to do. Take it from somebody who has had to draft cases against my land lord in the past. But I do know that this code doesn't hold much weight when actual court cases face up against it, usually due to the "serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value" exemption.

Games, anime, manga, books, etc. It's all art. And art is protected speech. Typically, when it talks about depictions of minors, it means depictions or "real" minors. Like that time Shad depicted somebody's literal daughter. That's NOT GOOD. But the main character of this game does not depict a real person, minor or otherwise.

A Song of Ice and Fire includes scenes with minors engaged in sex. But George R. R. Martin isn't rotting in jail, and Game of Thrones got a live show in which some of those scenes even made it into the HBO series. Daenerys is 13 years old at the start of the books, and is only aged up to be 17 at the beginning of the TV series. But she's not a minor. She's a fictional character. And that's FAR from the only work of fiction that does so.

Again. Not a lawyer. But I hear this debate a lot.

A famous example:

United States v. Handley
Although Handley ultimately pled guilty, District Judge James E. Gritzner ruled that 18 U.S.C. § 1466A(a)(2) and 18 U.S.C. § 1466A(b)(2) were constitutionally infirm because those subsections restrict protected speech and do not require the visual depictions be obscene. He also held that the determination of what constituted obscenity under 18 U.S.C. § 1466A(a)(1) and 18 U.S.C. § 1466A(b)(1) was to be made by the trier of fact. Referring to previous U.S. Supreme Court cases on obscenity and child pornography, he held, "Free Speech Coalition made clear that banned material must meet either the Ferber or Miller standards. There is no dispute the images in this case do not involve real children, thus Ferber is inapplicable."

Admittedly he accepted the plea because they believed a jury would not acquit him if shown the manga. But let's be real, the average American can't distinguish fiction from reality... for some reason. They condemn anything that seems scary, alien, or taboo in their eyes. Americans allow people to trample all over their rights all the time. T^T. Even if a jury did convict him, it still wouldn't mean that the code is valid. People are wrongly convicted all the time, and the judge's ruling regarding the code still stands regardless of the defendant's actions. The Miller and Ferber standards are still used today, and as long as "Real Children" are not depicted, it's protected art.

If you'd really like to research some more into the topic, this wiki has a lot of information, not just for US law, but other jurisdictions as well. In the case of US law, the Protect Act modified the previous wording of "appears to be a minor" with "indistinguishable from that of a minor". This definition does not apply to depictions that are drawings, cartoons, sculptures, or paintings depicting minors or adults. So it is true that the art CAN still be illegal if it's indistinguishable from a real person, and it need not be an existing person any longer. BUT that criteria is still hard to meet, you need to be pulling some deep fakes to meet that standard.

But again, law isn't really relevant here anyway. This is LoverLab's site. They can allow or restrict whatever they like. So it'd just be nice to see all the arguing stop so the moderators can do their own thing and let people just enjoy themselves. Again. people not interested in the content really have no reason to be here anyway, other than to stir the pot.

PS: As an aside, I just want to point out the hypocrisy as well. Because I don't think it's brought up enough. But you never see the people complaining about this kind of content doing the same for fictional depictions of bestiality or rape. We all know what kinds of mods are hosted here in the Skyrim forums~ Pretty sure bestiality and rape are illegal too, but I never see people here throwing a fit about their fictional depictions. Again. The moderators here can allow and ban any content they like, because it's their site and it's within their right. That's why I advocate people to just let them handle it the way they want to, and quit the squabbling. It's a bad look to jump into a forum focused on content you hate, just to cry about it. When I see things depicting kinks that appall me, I leave, lol. Not gonna argue in a guro forum about how murder/amputation/necrophilia is illegal and they shouldn't be getting off to it. I just let them be and go my own way.

Edited September 27, 2025 by EelzLab

[RancidRat]

24 minutes ago, EelzLab said:

This one gets brought up a lot. I'm no lawyer. Not sure if you are either. Interpreting law in of itself is not exactly an easy thing to do. Take it from somebody who has had to draft cases against my land lord in the past. But I do know that this code doesn't hold much weight when actual court cases face up against it, usually due to the "serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value" exemption.

Games, anime, manga, books, etc. It's all art. And art is protected speech. Typically, when it talks about depictions of minors, it means depictions or "real" minors. Like that time Shad depicted somebody's literal daughter. That's NOT GOOD. But the main character of this game is not a minor, nor does she depict a real person.

A Song of Ice and Fire includes scenes with minors engaged in sex. But George R. R. Martin isn't rotting in jail, and Game of Thrones got a live show in which some of those scenes even made it into the HBO series. Daenerys is 13 years old at the start of the books and is aged up to be 17 at the beginning of the TV series. But she's not a minor. She's a fictional character. And that's FAR from the only work of fiction that does so.

Again. Not a lawyer. But I hear this debate a lot.

A famous example:

United States v. Handley
Although Handley ultimately pled guilty, District Judge James E. Gritzner ruled that 18 U.S.C. § 1466A(a)(2) and 18 U.S.C. § 1466A(b)(2) were constitutionally infirm because those subsections restrict protected speech and do not require the visual depictions be obscene. He also held that the determination of what constituted obscenity under 18 U.S.C. § 1466A(a)(1) and 18 U.S.C. § 1466A(b)(1) was to be made by the trier of fact. Referring to previous U.S. Supreme Court cases on obscenity and child pornography, he held, "Free Speech Coalition made clear that banned material must meet either the Ferber or Miller standards. There is no dispute the images in this case do not involve real children, thus Ferber is inapplicable."

Admittedly he accepted the plea because they believed a jury would not acquit him if shown the manga. But let's be real, the average American can't distinguish fiction from reality... for some reason. They condemn anything that seems scary, alien, or taboo in their eyes. Americans allow people to trample all over their rights all the time. T^T

Again, law isn't really relevant here anyway. This is LoverLab's site. They can allow or restrict whatever they like. So I'd just be nice to see all the arguing stop so the mods can do their own thing and let people can just enjoy themselves. Again. People not interested in the content really have no reason to be here anyway other than to stir a pot.

Don't forget, Stephen King wrote a bunch of 13-yr olds having an orgy in a sewer, and he isn't behind bars either. Plus I dont see the FBI searching his computer for sus content. 

People need to stop pretending that pixels on a screen have the same rights and treatment as actual actual humans. Like it or not, its just not the same, and it should never be the same. 

Edited September 27, 2025 by RancidRat

[jack1121]

thats not the case at all i am state side and anything with a minor is disgusting. then again most of you dont know whats like to have worked around fucked up individuals or the sounds in the legal system to understand laws you want to act sovereign. and i hate to break it to you that shit dosent fly in reality and it wont fly here with 

[wocheng]

This is a weird game, a lot of the internal data is non-standard, and when I linked the head to the new body, her expressions were gone

[squillliam]

1 hour ago, DoctaSax said:

 

That's not true, as far as I know. See section C here. 

 

Not everyone lives in the US. In Japan, you can have a shotacon and lolicon, and it's completely legal. Case on point: Ouran High School Host Club and Loveless manga comic series.

[VaultG]

Guys It's a 26Yo woman in a school uniform Lol   BTW i don't want or need a nude mod for this, but the discussion is just ridiculous.

[jack1121]

56 minutes ago, VaultG said:

Guys It's a 26Yo woman in a school uniform Lol   BTW i don't want or need a nude mod for this, but the discussion is just ridiculous.

the character she portrays is 15. so her irl age of her actress dosent matter. in a legal stand point you would be nailed with child porn.

 

4 hours ago, squillliam said:

Not everyone lives in the US. In Japan, you can have a shotacon and lolicon, and it's completely legal. Case on point: Ouran High School Host Club and Loveless manga comic series.

again iam sure that Japan also has laws against it as well. i would just have to contact a friend of mine who is Japanese. not i am sure i could ask my wife who is Asian to find out for me as well. there reall is no way around any of this.  

 

Japan in 2014 passed a law that you get a year in jail and 10k usd fine for possession of child porn soooo

Edited September 27, 2025 by jack1121

[oaktree10]

46 minutes ago, jack1121 said:

the character she portrays is 15. so her irl age of her actress dosent matter. in a legal stand point you would be nailed with child porn.

 

again iam sure that Japan also has laws against it as well. i would just have to contact a friend of mine who is Japanese. not i am sure i could ask my wife who is Asian to find out for me as well. there reall is no way around any of this.  

 

Japan in 2014 passed a law that you get a year in jail and 10k usd fine for possession of child porn soooo

She is in her 20s this is stated in the actual game stop spreading misinformation.

[_QED]

Hi everyone—quick technical question. I’m not interested in nude mods, so I don’t want to derail that topic; I’m just looking for modding resources.

For this game, does anyone know a site or a Discord server that provides information on creating mods?

I believe it’s running on UE5, but I’d like to confirm the exact version (e.g., 5.x) and any setup/tooling details.

I have experience with UE4, but this is my first time with UE5, so apologies for the basic questions. Any pointers or documentation would be greatly appreciated—thank you!

[SH360]

11 minutes ago, _QED said:

Hi everyone—quick technical question. I’m not interested in nude mods, so I don’t want to derail that topic; I’m just looking for modding resources.

For this game, does anyone know a site or a Discord server that provides information on creating mods?

I believe it’s running on UE5, but I’d like to confirm the exact version (e.g., 5.x) and any setup/tooling details.

I have experience with UE4, but this is my first time with UE5, so apologies for the basic questions. Any pointers or documentation would be greatly appreciated—thank you!

This game uses Unreal Engine 5.4.2

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/silenthillf/mods/41

[zecchi99]

I was explaing how wrong jack was with what he said about japan.. but apparently I cannot speak freelly here... (he is fine to use certain terms, but I use them and my comment is not longer accepted).. so I cannot communitace freely... I wrote a lot of stuff that would destroy your argument.. not saying anything illegal either.. just stating facts of Japan that you can look up..... things that are perfectly legal there.. but can go into details cause here they dont like us talking about it.. so, sorry I cannot talk peroperly and give you proper examples.. but JACK you are wrong.. thats all I can say xD this is a bit of annoying, but, oh well

Edited September 27, 2025 by zecchi99

[Demonwise]

2 hours ago, oaktree10 said:

She is in her 20s this is stated in the actual game stop spreading misinformation.

 

Ok, I investigated this and it is true. She is in her 20s. Although it is only apparent at the end and it would be hard to explain unless you have finished the game. Apparently there are 5 different endings and it sounds like you really need to get 3 of them to get a full picture of the story. 

[Maccias]

38 minutes ago, Demonwise said:

 

Ok, I investigated this and it is true. She is in her 20s. Although it is only apparent at the end and it would be hard to explain unless you have finished the game. Apparently there are 5 different endings and it sounds like you really need to get 3 of them to get a full picture of the story. 

Yup, so there's no reason to be afraid of having mods of the character

[Hootnuk]

3 hours ago, Demonwise said:

 

Ok, I investigated this and it is true. She is in her 20s. Although it is only apparent at the end and it would be hard to explain unless you have finished the game. Apparently there are 5 different endings and it sounds like you really need to get 3 of them to get a full picture of the story. 

Well now that everything is clear and she isn't -18, can we speak freely? Hope moderators drop the "your content needs to be approved"

Edited September 27, 2025 by Hootnuk

[Gigabash]

can we for the love of what is sacred go back into talking about modding and stop the never ending ''Fiction is real''  bullshit discussions ?

[EelzLab]

1 hour ago, Hootnuk said:

Well now that everything is clear and she isn't -18, can we speak freely? Hope moderators drop the "your content needs to be approved"

Shame to have to be spoiled to figure that out. But hey, I'm still eager to experience the game and it's other twists and turns.

Also here's hoping the tourists will leave now. Or maybe they'll find newfound appreciation for the mods since all of a sudden the character aged up 5 years over night. What a miracle, thank goodness for the magic of fictional content~!

(Holds breath)

[chumbv]

Any news on a mod that fixes the black void on her panties and changes it to regular panties?

[squillliam]

8 hours ago, jack1121 said:

the character she portrays is 15. so her irl age of her actress dosent matter. in a legal stand point you would be nailed with child porn.

 

again iam sure that Japan also has laws against it as well. i would just have to contact a friend of mine who is Japanese. not i am sure i could ask my wife who is Asian to find out for me as well. there reall is no way around any of this.  

 

Japan in 2014 passed a law that you get a year in jail and 10k usd fine for possession of child porn soooo

Well, I don't expect you to understand Japanese laws if you're not a Japanese, but don't try to freely interpret it to twist some agenda you have. The law exempted lolicon, shotacon, and other works deemed controversial, but culturally and economically important as an art, as long as it does not portray REAL LIFE minors. That said, the law does not cover fictional images, following arguments from publishers, artists, and lawyers that including them would be an unacceptable restriction on freedom of expression. Read it here. So, you decide, is Shimizu Hinako real? Her real-life model is a 26 years old. Besides, Hinako isn't even a minor. Have you finished the game? If you do, you'll figure out in ENDING 3 that she clearly isn't a minor. So I don't get where did you get the 15 from. The developers? Gimme a break.

[EelzLab]

Huh, one of my posts got deleted. Wonder what I said lol. I'll head elsewhere for the time being I guess. I'll check back here in a week or so. If this whole thread hasn't been nuked by then, maybe there will be hope. Good luck y'all~

Edited September 27, 2025 by EelzLab

[zecchi99]

1 hour ago, squillliam said:

Well, I don't expect you to understand Japanese laws if you're not a Japanese, but don't try to freely interpret it to twist some agenda you have. The law exempted lolicon, shotacon, and other works deemed controversial, but culturally and economically important as an art, as long as it does not portray REAL LIFE minors. That said, the law does not cover fictional images, following arguments from publishers, artists, and lawyers that including them would be an unacceptable restriction on freedom of expression. Read it here. So, you decide, is Shimizu Hinako real? Her real-life model is a 26 years old. Besides, Hinako isn't even a minor. Have you finished the game? If you do, you'll figure out in ENDING 3 that she clearly isn't a minor. So I don't get where did you get the 15 from. The developers? Gimme a break.

 

thank you for explaining what I tried to explained before but been censored by moderators T_T but yeah... all this!

[_QED]

7 hours ago, SH360 said:

This game uses Unreal Engine 5.4.2

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/silenthillf/mods/41

Thank you very much for the information! 🙏I had assumed that kind of information wasn't available on Nexus, so this is very helpful. Sorry for the trouble!

[RancidRat]

10 hours ago, jack1121 said:

the character she portrays is 15. so her irl age of her actress dosent matter. in a legal stand point you would be nailed with child porn.

 

again iam sure that Japan also has laws against it as well. i would just have to contact a friend of mine who is Japanese. not i am sure i could ask my wife who is Asian to find out for me as well. there reall is no way around any of this.  

 

Japan in 2014 passed a law that you get a year in jail and 10k usd fine for possession of child porn soooo

So as someone else already stated, Hinako is confirmed to be an adult if you get Ending 3 in the game. 

So my question for you is; Why are you here? Why do you compulsively feel the need to morally grandstand in a porn mod site? I'm genuinely curious. 
Just... stop. Get some help. 

[Catnatic]

2 hours ago, EelzLab said:

Huh, one of my posts got deleted. Wonder what I said lol. I'll head elsewhere for the time being I guess. I'll check back here in a week or so. If this whole thread hasn't been nuked by then, maybe there will be hope. Good luck y'all~

From my experience, if the original comment you're responding to got removed, there's a chance you might have your reply wiped away regardless of what you said.

I sort of understand why the moderators would do that but it's also frustrating to have your time put into writing that response effectively wasted, and it gets really messy and mucks up the flow of other conversations when your post contains multiple quotes but because of one quote of a bad actor, your simultaneous replies to other people gets erased.

Edited September 27, 2025 by Catnatic

[jimkage]

How did you guys reach 125 posts without posting a single mod...🤓

[VonRaschke]

This thread could use some clean-up again lol

 

I'm still curious if the jiggle bones from the bunny costume's ears can be used elsewhere on the mesh. Could make for some nice busty thicc mesh swaps.