Is sexlab P+ worth it?

[whitecode]

I has been quite some time since I touched Skyrim and decided to give another shot.

I've been seeing a lot of talk about this new support of P plus but also see a lot of talk about incompatible with many mods and animations.

So kinda want to know about the opinions around this, otherwise I would just stick with the good ol' SLAL and Utility

[Reuse]

For a while P+ was a superior upgrade to regular SLAL but missing quite a few essential features, for me the deal breaker was the lack of an option to change the current animation to another via a list, for a hot minute you could only cycle through to the next with a hotkey, which was a massive pain. 

 

These recent couple updates have fixed this by adding an AnimTools style menu selector, which is exactly the missing piece that makes P+ feel like a complete replacement for regular Sexlab.

 

Like seriously, if you try out P+ and see how scenes activate nearly instantly, it'll be hard to go back to old regular SLAL. 

 

You're right there's a lot of incompatible stuff with P+, pretty much anything that tweaks regular Sexlab doesn't work with P+, and you need to install a conversion mod for the animations you want to use with P+, but it's just one mod with a FOMOD listing most all known animations so it's pretty painless. 

 

The P+ discord is also a pretty good resource to search up, since chances are if you're having an issue at least 4 other ppl were in the same boat at some point. 

 

 

[assassin394]

On 8/12/2025 at 1:42 AM, Reuse said:

For a while P+ was a superior upgrade to regular SLAL but missing quite a few essential features, for me the deal breaker was the lack of an option to change the current animation to another via a list, for a hot minute you could only cycle through to the next with a hotkey, which was a massive pain. 

 

These recent couple updates have fixed this by adding an AnimTools style menu selector, which is exactly the missing piece that makes P+ feel like a complete replacement for regular Sexlab.

 

Like seriously, if you try out P+ and see how scenes activate nearly instantly, it'll be hard to go back to old regular SLAL. 

 

You're right there's a lot of incompatible stuff with P+, pretty much anything that tweaks regular Sexlab doesn't work with P+, and you need to install a conversion mod for the animations you want to use with P+, but it's just one mod with a FOMOD listing most all known animations so it's pretty painless. 

 

The P+ discord is also a pretty good resource to search up, since chances are if you're having an issue at least 4 other ppl were in the same boat at some point. 

 

 

I was searching for info about this and found your post. Thank you for the info. No option to change animation from a list is a deal breaker for me.

[belegost]

The biggest disadvantage of SLP+ is inability to use any of the existing animation packs, unless they have been converted. About half of those I use have never been converted, and those that have are older version of the popular ones (like old version of Billyy's which lacks certain animations I REALLY like).

 

Yes, there is some Python script that can do the conversion, but I have no idea about Python, scripting or even how this whole black magic stuff works.

Edited November 28, 2025 by belegost

[Player80]

15 hours ago, belegost said:

The biggest disadvantage of SLP+ is inability to use any of the existing animation packs, unless they have been converted. About half of those I use have never been converted, and those that have are older version of the popular ones (like old version of Billyy's which lacks certain animations I REALLY like).

 

Yes, there is some Python script that can do the conversion, but I have no idea about Python, scripting or even how this whole black magic stuff works.

I tried using the python script once, but I couldn't make sense of what I was doing ^^ I guess it helps you a lot when you already know what you have to do and how this script automates what you want to do

[noctred]

I've yet to find a good reason to not use P+.

 

There were many compatibility issues in its early stages, but nowadays there isn't a single mod I'm interested in that doesn't work with P+. Every mod I used to use with vanilla SL is fully compatible. That's not to say there aren't any incompatibilities, there may be - but I've yet to run into any for mods I care about. Mods which extend vanilla SL functionality are obviously not compatible, but those mods are largely no longer necessary. All of the popular animation packs have SLSB conversions and if you happen to find one that doesn't, there are detailed conversion guides on the P+ Discord - or if you don't feel comfortable/don't care to learn, you can probably make a request and somebody will do it for you. From a performance perspective, there's really no going back after you use P+ unless you're particularly masochistic.

 

Beyond that, there are still some issues with the UI and animation filters, and a few bugs here and there, but development is active and ongoing. The Discord community is active so support is easy to get. Just swap or at least try it out with your LO - got nothing to lose.

[NNS10]

On 11/30/2025 at 9:36 AM, noctred said:

I've yet to find a good reason to not use P+.

 

There were many compatibility issues in its early stages, but nowadays there isn't a single mod I'm interested in that doesn't work with P+. Every mod I used to use with vanilla SL is fully compatible. That's not to say there aren't any incompatibilities, there may be - but I've yet to run into any for mods I care about. Mods which extend vanilla SL functionality are obviously not compatible, but those mods are largely no longer necessary. All of the popular animation packs have SLSB conversions and if you happen to find one that doesn't, there are detailed conversion guides on the P+ Discord - or if you don't feel comfortable/don't care to learn, you can probably make a request and somebody will do it for you. From a performance perspective, there's really no going back after you use P+ unless you're particularly masochistic.

 

Beyond that, there are still some issues with the UI and animation filters, and a few bugs here and there, but development is active and ongoing. The Discord community is active so support is easy to get. Just swap or at least try it out with your LO - got nothing to lose.

 

Do you use SD+? I read that DD NG and ZaZ doesn't work well with SLP+ due to an animation filter bug, and while I don't care for those mods they are both requirements for many mods including SD+.

 

Or is there an alternative set of mods you recommend/use instead? I am only look for SL mods to add consequence, such as Defeat, etc. I also run YMOYL as the framework to handle defeat consequences. Heard about Acheron as a replacement but I'm on 1.5.97.

Edited February 19 by NNS10

[noctred]

10 hours ago, NNS10 said:

 

Do you use SD+? I read that DD NG and ZaZ doesn't work well with SLP+ due to an animation filter bug, and while I don't care for those mods they are both requirements for many mods including SD+.

 

Or is there an alternative set of mods you recommend/use instead? I am only look for SL mods to add consequence, such as Defeat, etc. I also run YMOYL as the framework to handle defeat consequences. Heard about Acheron as a replacement but I'm on 1.5.97.

 

 

ZaZ works fine with P+ as long as you're only utilizing the assets (furnitures, furniture animations, devices, etc.). You'll have problems if you're trying to use ZaZ to register animations or trying to use the ZaZ animation filters, but the majority of mods which list ZaZ as a requirement only need the assets, not the other functionality, and there's a SLSB conversion available. DD NG works fine with P+ as well. I believe we're still waiting for an official SLSB conversion for the latest DD NG release but the mod is perfectly functional regardless, and you can fill in the gaps with device/furniture animations from other animation packs. There may still be some issues with P+ and DD NG's animation filter, but I haven't noticed anything too awkward in my games.

 

For reference, I use ZAP 8+ (with the SLSB conversion), DD NG 0.4.2, and SL P+ 2.16.0 in my load order with no overt issues. I don't use SD+, but I do use Naked Defeat, Pama's Prison Alternative family, Simple Slavery++, and other mods which rely heavily on ZaZ assets, along with plenty of DD-reliant mods. That said, I can't speak to SD+ specifically so you may be better off asking in that mod's support thread, or perhaps somebody else here can answer.

 

As for mods to add consequences - Naked Defeat is my preferred defeat mod but it's very hardcore, sometimes kind of buggy, a bit heavy on feature creep, and not for everyone. Beyond its native consequences, ND can hand me off to Simple Slavery, which I use as a handoff to various other consequence mods, including Captive Player, Public Whore, Dark Arena, Devious Cidhna, Slaves of Tamriel, Sub Lola, Deviously Accessible, Dealing with Sexual Daedra, Bandit Paradise, and perhaps back to one of ND's own outcomes. Some of these can land me in prison (Pama's Prison Alternative and its addons), which can then lead to other consequences. Beyond that, I use mods like Devious Interests, Devious Carriages Redux, and Deviously Helpless Redux for additional consequences in other contexts. All of this works fine with SL P+, in my experience.

 

I don't use Acheron but considering it's from the P+ author, there shouldn't be any compatibility concerns. You could pair Acheron with Yamete Kudasai, Practical Defeat, and/or other Acheron addons and outcomes. There's an official 1.5.97 build of Acheron here, but it's behind a small paywall - up to you how you feel about that. There may be some other way to get Acheron to run on 1.5.97, but I don't follow the mod so I couldn't tell you.

 

Full disclaimer: I play on 1.6.1170, so I have no idea how any of the above will behave on 1.5.97.

[NNS10]

8 hours ago, noctred said:

As for mods to add consequences - Naked Defeat is my preferred defeat mod but it's very hardcore, sometimes kind of buggy, a bit heavy on feature creep, and not for everyone. Beyond its native consequences, ND can hand me off to Simple Slavery, which I use as a handoff to various other consequence mods, including Captive Player, Public Whore, Dark Arena, Devious Cidhna, Slaves of Tamriel, Sub Lola, Deviously Accessible, Dealing with Sexual Daedra, Bandit Paradise, and perhaps back to one of ND's own outcomes. Some of these can land me in prison (Pama's Prison Alternative and its addons), which can then lead to other consequences. Beyond that, I use mods like Devious Interests, Devious Carriages Redux, and Deviously Helpless Redux for additional consequences in other contexts. All of this works fine with SL P+, in my experience.

 

By hardcore do you mean difficulty or content? From checking the manual, there are definitely too many features... Are the defeat consequences like slavery all focused on public slavery? If so, that's not for me since I'm not trying to turn my Skyrim into a SL heavy world and playthrough.

[noctred]

1 hour ago, NNS10 said:

 

By hardcore do you mean difficulty or content? From checking the manual, there are definitely too many features... Are the defeat consequences like slavery all focused on public slavery? If so, that's not for me since I'm not trying to turn my Skyrim into a SL heavy world and playthrough.

 

Content, and yeah it's mostly public slavery/free use kinda stuff, so probably not for you. If I wasn't using ND, I'd probably be using Acheron - the only reason I'm not using Acheron is because I couldn't get it to play nice with ND. So yeah I'd say Acheron would likely be the most sensible path forward for you, assuming you can get it to run on 1.5.97.

[NNS10]

1 hour ago, noctred said:

 

Content, and yeah it's mostly public slavery/free use kinda stuff, so probably not for you.

 

Thanks for confirming. I'll probably stick with SD+ for now, but it has DD as a requirement.

 

12 hours ago, noctred said:

DD NG works fine with P+ as well. I believe we're still waiting for an official SLSB conversion for the latest DD NG release but the mod is perfectly functional regardless, and you can fill in the gaps with device/furniture animations from other animation packs. There may still be some issues with P+ and DD NG's animation filter, but I haven't noticed anything too awkward in my games.

 

I read the SLSB conversion available in the SLPP patch is for an outdated version of DD NG and not to use it since animations were removed since then (which would cause issues). Are you just running DD NG without any SLSB files, or are you doing something else?

[noctred]

2 hours ago, NNS10 said:

I read the SLSB conversion available in the SLPP patch is for an outdated version of DD NG and not to use it since animations were removed since then (which would cause issues). Are you just running DD NG without any SLSB files, or are you doing something else?

 

I'm running it without any SLSB files, so my effective pool of device/contraption animations comes from other animation packs (Billyy, BakaFactory, Leito, SirNibbles, Psyche, etc.). It works well enough.

[Echi Corsair]

On 11/30/2025 at 12:36 PM, noctred said:

All of the popular animation packs have SLSB conversions

 

Oh, it doesn't use SLAL packs and SLAL anim loader?

[Kairat Minagis]

For me, the reason for abandoning P+ was the lack of automatic conversion from SLAL to SLSB. The conversions available in FOMOD P+ are only suitable for certain versions of packages, and if an update is released, they no longer work. And they don't exist for all packages. If anyone knows how to fix this easily, I would be grateful.

[MakoMaster]

For me, the way smoother load time and fade make it a much better experience. Only thing I don't like is no (obvious) way to hide all the UI/Menus that pop up. So if anyone knows how to get rid of them I'd love to know.

[LordDrakath15226]

I would like to use it but i'm on 640 and read that there's compatibility issues.

[VeraDra]

On 3/1/2026 at 10:54 AM, Echi Corsair said:

Oh, it doesn't use SLAL packs and SLAL anim loader?

P+ uses its own format (SLSB) which AFAIK is far more efficent (I want to say it's binary-based as opposed to XML based, and is far faster to process).

 

SLAL Anim Loader is totally gone, as is needing to manually register animation packs in game. It Just WorksTM.

 

On 3/2/2026 at 5:12 AM, Kairat Minagis said:

For me, the reason for abandoning P+ was the lack of automatic conversion from SLAL to SLSB. The conversions available in FOMOD P+ are only suitable for certain versions of packages, and if an update is released, they no longer work. And they don't exist for all packages. If anyone knows how to fix this easily, I would be grateful.

This is only an issue because people insist on still using vanilla Sexlab with SLAL. If (and when) P+ becomes the dominant way to use Sexlab (and when animation authors start to use the tools available to them), automated conversions would no longer be needed.

Unfortunately, while you can convert a SLAL pack to work with SLSB (albeit with a limited featureset), you can't go back the other way, which means pack creators who are dead-set on releasing animation packs for a geriatric version of the game (LE) will continue to make their packs SLAL-only and not bother doing the conversion themselves (which, from when I've done it, is a fairly quick process and requires putting files in one place and copying them from another).

 

On 3/6/2026 at 9:27 AM, LordDrakath15226 said:

I would like to use it but i'm on 640 and read that there's compatibility issues.

I haven't been able to find mention of .640 specific issues, though there isn't a good reason to be on .640 when .1170 has been out for... years? at this point?

[06660]

Just get the animation from discord bro it's totally not a not-a-paywall it's on discord bro sign up for discord why don't you use discord what do you mean an animation API needs to actually play animations they're on discord bro

[chipstick]

Where did you get the ZAP 8+ SLSB conversion? Can't locate it anywhere. Or did you convert itself?

On 2/20/2026 at 9:35 PM, noctred said:

For reference, I use ZAP 8+ (with the SLSB conversion), DD NG 0.4.2, and SL P+ 2.16.0 in my load order with no overt issues. I don't use SD+, but I do use Naked Defeat, Pama's Prison Alternative family, Simple Slavery++, and other mods which rely heavily on ZaZ assets, along with plenty of DD-reliant mods. That said, I can't speak to SD+ specifically so you may be better off asking in that mod's support thread, or perhaps somebody else here can answer.

 

 

if anyone else also knows of a SLSB conversion for ZAP8+, pointing out where to get it would be much appreciated!

[shrtjsrtj]

Having to use Python for my mods wouldn't be too bad if it worked on my installed mod list and wasn't on Discord, but that's too user hostile for me so I stick with Sexlab. That and some of how it works is/was different from Sexlab last I used it, IIRC P+ is/was more strict with the gender filter so since I had no F/F spanking scenes it wouldn't use M/F ones if it couldn't find any. It wouldn't use M/F with strap ons for F/F scenes either.

[noctred]

14 hours ago, chipstick said:

Where did you get the ZAP 8+ SLSB conversion? Can't locate it anywhere. Or did you convert itself?

 

if anyone else also knows of a SLSB conversion for ZAP8+, pointing out where to get it would be much appreciated!

 

It's part of the official Automated SLSB Conversions pack, which you can download on the P+ Discord, from the #slsb-pack-releases channel. It's labeled as ZAP 7+ but works fine for 8+.

 

Link to the Discord is on the main P+ page. You can download an older version of the pack from that page as well, but latest updates are on Discord.

Edited May 13 by noctred

[chipstick]

On 5/14/2026 at 4:01 AM, noctred said:

 

It's part of the official Automated SLSB Conversions pack, which you can download on the P+ Discord, from the #slsb-pack-releases channel. It's labeled as ZAP 7+ but works fine for 8+.

 

Link to the Discord is on the main P+ page. You can download an older version of the pack from that page as well, but latest updates are on Discord.

Right, thank you Noctred.  I had actually noted the same thing - that we have the conv for 7 but not 8. I appreciate the clarification.

Edited May 14 by chipstick

[深淵の神]

Sorry for butting in but speaking of, could someone show me a video of how much faster P+ is? I see people bragging way too much about it, but I’ve never seen how fast it actually is, and “try it yourself” really isn’t worth it with all the hassle of installing it, converting animations, and the incompatibilities with the best sex mods, practically, the change would mean I'd have to redo a lot of my load order. My animations in classic SexLab don’t take even 3 seconds to start, and I don’t suffer from any kind of lag. I don’t think I’m that much of a gooner to be chasing a scene starting down to the thousandth of a second.

[gamerpk2]

23 hours ago, 深淵の神 said:

Sorry for butting in but speaking of, could someone show me a video of how much faster P+ is? I see people bragging way too much about it, but I’ve never seen how fast it actually is, and “try it yourself” really isn’t worth it with all the hassle of installing it, converting animations, and the incompatibilities with the best sex mods, practically, the change would mean I'd have to redo a lot of my load order. My animations in classic SexLab don’t take even 3 seconds to start, and I don’t suffer from any kind of lag. I don’t think I’m that much of a gooner to be chasing a scene starting down to the thousandth of a second.

i feel like best way to find out is to try . i say this because for me personally sexlab takes like 2-3 seconds .. P+ takes like 1 .  difference is very small that it doesnt matter

i dont have the problem of sexlab taking a long time like some people say they do . and P+ has a lot of stuff that i hate personally

if ur using a mod organizer just simply make a copy of ur profile - add P+ and run fnis/pandora whatever u use and done

just give it  a quick test no need for a full serious game where it works well with other mods .

if u dont like it then just switch to the backup profile u made to revert

if u like it then u can think about incompatabilities after

[深淵の神]

41 minutes ago, gamerpk2 said:

i feel like best way to find out is to try . i say this because for me personally sexlab takes like 2-3 seconds .. P+ takes like 1 .  difference is very small that it doesnt matter

i dont have the problem of sexlab taking a long time like some people say they do . and P+ has a lot of stuff that i hate personally

if ur using a mod organizer just simply make a copy of ur profile - add P+ and run fnis/pandora whatever u use and done

just give it  a quick test no need for a full serious game where it works well with other mods .

if u dont like it then just switch to the backup profile u made to revert

if u like it then u can think about incompatabilities after

 

 

Well, that’s why I wanted to watch a video, because the curiosity over that huge popularity has me totally baffled. I feel like I’m a boomer (I’m a millennial) who doesn’t get what all the fuss from the kids over spinners is about (back in my day, I was the king of the yo-yo). At least I’m leaving here a video on how classic sexlab works; it’s really not something I’d call “slow.” That’s why I don’t get what more speed people could possibly ask for, honestly.

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1azHvR85ui3nDbaU7MvIFfSQVpxdN0b2g/view?usp=sharing

(I forgot to hide the UI, oops)