Selectively infinite boobs. (Varies by race)

[metame]

I have the infamous infinite boobs problem and I'm baffled. It seems to only affect some races and not all. I have done the obvious reinstalling Growlfs Universal skeleton and reinstalling all the SetBody meshes.

 

Here's a fresh save with an Imperial female, this is not how breasts should look like.

 

Here's an older save (doesn't matter whether a new or an old save) with my PC (Miqote race) on the left unaffected by mystery boobs and on the right is First Mate Malvullis (Dark Elf) and her chest of infinity.

 

All the actors in both pictures have been SetBody-ed to the same HGEC D-cup body for comparison. The problem occurs with every body type.

 

Everything worked just fine yesterday but today this happens. I installed Wolven Anthros, Xenius Race Compilation, Frill Short Dress (clothing mod) and Chapel Shop (clothing)  but I fail to see any of them being the cause of this.

 

Load Order:

 

 

Active Mod Files:
00  Oblivion.esm
01  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
02  x117race.esm
03  Lovers with PK.esm
04  TamagoClub.esm
05  HiyokoClub.esm
06  LoversCreature.esm
07  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]
08  Chanpon.esm
09  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.34]
0A  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0B  Knights.esp
0C  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]
0D  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
0E  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.34]
0F  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.34]
10  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.34]
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.34]
++  MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
11  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1]
12  MadCompanionshipSpells.esp  [Version 2.5]
13  MCS extension.esp
14  HUDCompanions.esp
15  Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp
16  Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
17  Tona's_ModsStore.esp
18  Chapel Shop.esp
19  Frill Short Dress and Halloween Backpack.esp
1A  RMDailyIncomeV2.esp
1B  TamagoTopic.esp
1C  LoversTamagoClub.esp
1D  LoversHiyokoShooter.esp
1E  HiyokoGenerator.esp
1F  HiyokoGeneratorBroodMother.esp
20  HiyokoFutureDream.esp  [Version y]
21  TamagoSetBody.esp
22  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
23  LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
24  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: LoversHooker.esp
25  LoversRaperS.esp
26  LoversPayBandit.esp
27  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 96v4a]
28  LoversAchievments.esp
29  LoversBitch.esp
2A  LoversCreature.esp
2B  LoversMagic.esp
2C  LoversSlaveTrader.esp
2D  LSTBravilUnderground.esp
2E  LSTaddonIn.esp
2F  LoversHooker.esp  [Version 2.2]
30  LoversBrute.esp
31  666_Modified_Contraception_esp_1_0.esp
32  LoversClubCats.esp
33  LoversStripper.esp
34  HiyokoUtilitySpells.esp
35  TamagoFertilityClinic.esp
36  SetBody.esp
37  AutoSetBody.esp
38  DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp
39  Wolven Anthros.esp
3A  X.Races.Comp.esp
3B  x117race.esp
++  x117Race ENG Race.esp
3C  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
3D  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
3E  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
3F  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
40  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
41  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
42  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
43  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
44  x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
45  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp
46  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
47  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp
48  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp
49  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp
4A  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp
4B  Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp
4C  Gorangas Economy System.esp
4D  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp  [Version 2.0]
4E  LoversMB2.esp
4F  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
50  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

 

[fejeena]

Can not help you with the Body Problem. Same Body/mesh, stretched and unstretched ?? I've never seen before!

 

But you have a load order Problem

LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: LoversHooker.esp   ! missing MAster file !

 

LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP_HookerPatch.esp  must be below Lovers Hookers.

[myuhinny]

That usually means that you are using the wrong skeleton the LPK mod comes with it's own skeleton if something overwrote it then you will get a boobs to infinity thing. You can try to reinstall LKP to fix it or use Universal Skeleton Nif by Growlf http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/37596/?

[Nite_Star]

That usually means that you are using the wrong skeleton the LPK mod comes with it's own skeleton if something overwrote it then you will get a boobs to infinity thing. You can try to reinstall LKP to fix it or use Universal Skeleton Nif by Growlf http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/37596/?

 

I agree had this issue the reinstalled the skeleton u mentioned.

[metame]

That usually means that you are using the wrong skeleton the LPK mod comes with it's own skeleton if something overwrote it then you will get a boobs to infinity thing. You can try to reinstall LKP to fix it or use Universal Skeleton Nif by Growlf http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/37596/?

 

I did reinstall Growlf's Universal skeleton before making this thread.

Tried with the LAPF skeleton this time, same exact thing. Isn't an issue with the skeleton it seems. Might be that my game just got fucked up somehow (wouldn't be the first time lol) and only a full reinstall will fix this

[movomo]

It may be possible that some of your mods are doing stupid thing, that directing non-BB skeleton to some NPC's. You are not affected as your skeleton is the universal one, but whoshername.. first mate who? that chick's skeleton is something else. Just my rough guess, though.

 

My recommendation is to load all the active mods in tes4edit, locate the problematic npc, and find out which bastard is giving you the grief. I wouldn't guarantee but worth a shot.

[fejeena]

Have you set archive invalidate via Bsa Redirection in the Mod Manager ? Oblivion always wants to use the original files in the compressed BSA files not replacers in the loose Folders.

Mesh replacers often works without archive invalidate, textures never. So if you have not set archive invalidate the game can use sometimes the original Skeleton and sometimes the new Universal Skeleton.

To prevent that you must set archive invalidate. see http://www.loverslab.com/topic/15185-xeo-sp/?view=findpost&p=496940

 

[kingkong]

the stretching is always a skeleton probleme    archiv invalidate may help   but for me you might need to check what race is having this streching and what mod it concernes  

and try to see if you can set it to point to the correct skeleton   or by renaming the lapf skeleton to the one it points  or by making an file.esp to correct it    as it can be bashed patched you might need to remake the  bashed patch 0.esp again

 

or may be just by lowering    -- x.race.esp    and --  x117races , -- x117 eng     after all MBP and before lop-elf.esp   in the load order might help with priorities.

[gregathit]

Make absolutely CERTAIN that you did not install any of the older body types that are not HGEC compatible.  Some of those old body types required a custom skeleton and that would cause your issue.

[metame]

It may be possible that some of your mods are doing stupid thing, that directing non-BB skeleton to some NPC's. You are not affected as your skeleton is the universal one, but whoshername.. first mate who? that chick's skeleton is something else. Just my rough guess, though.

 

My recommendation is to load all the active mods in tes4edit, locate the problematic npc, and find out which bastard is giving you the grief. I wouldn't guarantee but worth a shot.

TES4EDIT wasn't much help. I couldn't see any mentions of skeletons used. All the races (even the ones that work correctly) point to the same default texture locations. No mentions of body models.

 

Have you set archive invalidate via Bsa Redirection in the Mod Manager ? Oblivion always wants to use the original files in the compressed BSA files not replacers in the loose Folders.

Mesh replacers often works without archive invalidate, textures never. So if you have not set archive invalidate the game can use sometimes the original Skeleton and sometimes the new Universal Skeleton.

To prevent that you must set archive invalidate. see http://www.loverslab.com/topic/15185-xeo-sp/?view=findpost&p=496940

Archive invalidation is set to BSA redirection. I tried messing around with the other options but unsurprisingly it did not help.

 

the stretching is always a skeleton probleme    archiv invalidate may help   but for me you might need to check what race is having this streching and what mod it concernes  

and try to see if you can set it to point to the correct skeleton   or by renaming the lapf skeleton to the one it points  or by making an file.esp to correct it    as it can be bashed patched you might need to remake the  bashed patch 0.esp again

 

or may be just by lowering    -- x.race.esp    and --  x117races , -- x117 eng     after all MBP and before lop-elf.esp   in the load order might help with priorities.

As said before I didn't find any mentions of skeletons in TES4EDIT (to be honest this was my first time with it). Is there any way to check what skeleton the races are pointing to? Also switching the load order around did not help.

 

Make absolutely CERTAIN that you did not install any of the older body types that are not HGEC compatible.  Some of those old body types required a custom skeleton and that would cause your issue.

I'm 99% certain I did not install any older body types. I also reinstalled the SetBody Reloaded meshes so it shouldn't be the problem.

[movomo]

Race record does not contain any skeleton path.

Search for individual npc base record.

[fejeena]

Use archive invalidate via Bsa Redirection ! not the other Options.

 

Tes4Edit

 NPC Skeleton path

[metame]

Ok. I went trough all the NPC's in my Bashed Patch and every individual mod with TES4EDIT. Everyone has the correct skeleton path. The MODB - Bound Radius varied between NPC and even their oblivion.esm and final bashed patch version, and there were a few ToddTest NPC's with an error in it. (Propably nothing to worry about, fejeena's had 0 in it so it _might_ be abnormal).

 

There seems to be some mystery faeries messing with my game again....

[fejeena]

Then remains only one solution, kill all NPCs which have stretched breasts.

[metame]

Looks like this is one of those unsolvable mysteries.

 

The problem is so unique I feel like I should try and solve it because it deserves it. Guess It's reinstall time for me then.

 

A big thank you to everyone for your help!

 

Then remains only one solution, kill all NPCs which have stretched breasts.

That'll be every single female character in the game including my PC unless I'm playing Miqote or one of the other custom races it's not affecting