question Will Ostim replace Sexlab for LL mods?

[Kruggar]

Hello lovers, 

 

I am coming back to skyrim modding after a few months of break. Previously, I have been using a very sexlab focused modlist to satisfy my kinks. I finally gave Ostim a try and realized how much sexlab is lacking. I just want to know if there have been or will be any plans of porting all sexlab mods to support ostim? I recently saw that creature support also got added for Ostim. I am aware you can use both, sexlab and Ostim together, but managing all the animations and having to configure 2 mods for different events is quite inconvienient.

 

Also I apologize if there are already such threads out there where I could get all my answers, I tried to find them but couldn't find any. 

Edited June 12, 2025 by Kruggar

[Count Chocula]

I doubt it. But that's just the opinion of one average mod user.

[belegost]

No.

 

Why?

 

Devious Devices.

 

Case closed.

[Grevik]

I think both are gonna stick around, they have different audiences despite doing similar things. 

[Ashal]

I don't think the site needs to be "exclusive" to either SexLab or OStim.  

LL likely only seems to focus on SexLab because I made it and also happen to own the site.  Plus, it has a lot of content support that OStim currently does not.

Never seen OStim as a competitor.

 

If the authors of OStim wanted to focus their development here on LL, I'd be perfectly willing to comply with that and help them in any way I can. The only thing stopping me from adding an OStim section in addition to SexLab is the fact that the author(s) of the mod have never once contacted me or made themselves known in any way to seem interested in such a thing. I won't add major support for a mod whose author I have zero contact with or impression of. And to be honest, I'm a little iffy on what the official "authorship" of the mod is compared to OSA,

[Count Chocula]

19 hours ago, Ashal said:

I don't think the site needs to be "exclusive" to either SexLab or OStim.  

I think the OP meant in terms of mod authors abandoning SL for Ostim, not the site doing that. In the early days of O*, there weren't really any non-consensual-type animations (which is why I stuck with SL back then), as I recall. But there are now. Still, I'm guessing it's a fair bit of work to replace SL with scripted "play themselves" Ostim scenes. But I'm not a mod author, so that's just my, as I said, guess. But even if it's easy as pie, I don't see what kind of incentives authors of existing mods like Lola or Heroine would have to switch their mods over to Ostim.

 

Now watch someone tell me "There are already Ostim versions of those mods."

Edited June 15, 2025 by chocula
Typo, left the -ing off "doing."

[MiyuShinonomiya]

It's only a random opinion, but I really do enjoy using Ostim, and of course I say that with all the respect in the world for Sexlab. I tried reinstalling Sexlab a few times and there's just something missing for me lately. That said, it's completely understandable why SL is most modders' preference.

 

I think the big, big BIG thing about Ostim is that there just isn't a single good Defeat framework for it. Usually you start from there and build consequences around it, but nobody's built a stable first step, nor has much incentive to because most people just use SL. There's a few user-made conversions of animators' work out there that fill out the animation selection nicely (granted the tag system is hardly used or set up correctly) but there's just not many systems that tie any of it to gameplay elements such as Defeat or otherwise.

 

Plus, it's honestly a complete blur what the Ostim community's stance is on more taboo subjects. Since they host their files on Nexus, it wouldn't be surprising if they simply want to distance themselves from anything hardcore to avoid upsetting the greater public, but it significantly hampers anyone's interest in making spicier content for it.

 

For me, it's just such a user-friendly interface, and it runs really responsively. It's super easy to install, too. Been reach aching for Ostim versions (brand new or ported) of stuff you'd see with SL, but it doesn't seem like it'll happen for a while.

Edited June 17, 2025 by MiyuShinonomiya

[Count Chocula]

10 hours ago, MiyuShinonomiya said:

Plus, it's honestly a complete blur what the Ostim community's stance is on more taboo subjects. Since they host their files on Nexus, it wouldn't be surprising if they simply want to distance themselves from anything hardcore to avoid upsetting the greater public, but it significantly hampers anyone's interest in making spicier content for it.

As we all know, there are non-consensual animations  for OStim, but there didn't used to be. I imagine there are creature animations, given that there's a mod called OCreature. The authors of OStim can't do anything to stop people from making animations for it or using it as the sex framework for something like Slaverun, Lola or Heroine. It's a case of do mod authors want to bother. They've already put in the work to get their mods to work with SL.

Edited June 17, 2025 by chocula

[espguy]

is there anything preventing both to be installed at the same time? I normally alternate but started to wonder it. Im pretty sure the dialogues for seducing people with the respective mods are different and you can choose wich version when using quest mods. Makes me wonder if a patch would be possible

[Count Chocula]

On 6/27/2025 at 11:42 PM, espguy said:

is there anything preventing both to be installed at the same time? I normally alternate but started to wonder it. Im pretty sure the dialogues for seducing people with the respective mods are different and you can choose wich version when using quest mods. Makes me wonder if a patch would be possible

I think people install both all the time. I'm not one of them, though.

[belegost]

On 6/28/2025 at 8:42 AM, espguy said:

is there anything preventing both to be installed at the same time?

No. You can have both. They don't talk to each other.

Edited July 2, 2025 by belegost

[Mort-Vivant]

On 6/12/2025 at 4:58 AM, Kruggar said:

I finally gave Ostim a try and realized how much sexlab is lacking.

 

What's the notable difference between ostim and SL ? Personnaly I'm staying on SL because it's all I know and I understand how to make it work. Also I just don't want to learn how to deal with ostim, something new, for something similar (nsfw skyrim) ^^

[Count Chocula]

3 hours ago, Mort-Vivant said:

 

What's the notable difference between ostim and SL ? Personnaly I'm staying on SL because it's all I know and I understand how to make it work. Also I just don't want to learn how to deal with ostim, something new, for something similar (nsfw skyrim) ^^

From a mod author's point of view, no idea (since I am not a mod author).

 

From a mod user's point of view, a lot. Have you never used a mod with OStim? SL you watch stuff happen. OStim you make stuff happen.

[Mort-Vivant]

14 hours ago, Count Chocula said:

From a mod author's point of view, no idea (since I am not a mod author).

 

From a mod user's point of view, a lot. Have you never used a mod with OStim? SL you watch stuff happen. OStim you make stuff happen.

 

Yeah I checked what is ostim, look a bit like a poser mod (with animated pose) with not much quest mods or integration in the gameplay so I don't get the "realized how much sexlab is lacking" from author post lol 

 

maybe it's more easy to install or more "user friendly" but from what I've see it's rather ostim who is "lacking" 

[Count Chocula]

5 hours ago, Mort-Vivant said:

 

Yeah I checked what is ostim, look a bit like a poser mod (with animated pose) with not much quest mods or integration in the gameplay so I don't get the "realized how much sexlab is lacking" from author post lol 

 

maybe it's more easy to install or more "user friendly" but from what I've see it's rather ostim who is "lacking" 

Check out The Circle of Lust for a sex quest mod that has the option of using SL, Ostim or both. If all things were equal, OStim is a better sex framework from the mod user's perspective (which is the only perspective I have) than SL because it's potentially more versatile. But all things are not equal because SL is already used in so many sex quest mods. And who knows how much work it takes to convert a mod like Lola to use Ostim instead of SL? I certainly have no idea.

Edited July 3, 2025 by Count Chocula
Type O

[belegost]

19 hours ago, Mort-Vivant said:

What's the notable difference between ostim and SL

OStim doesn't have anything equivalent to Devious Devices and therefore all the nice and fancy mods that go with it, including all the gameplay changing ones. It's nice if you want Skyrim with just plain, old, consensual sex without additional gameplay loops or challenges of any significance. It's a very pretty sex, I admit it, but just sex nonetheless. It's boring.

 

For spicier stuff and all the kinks you want SL and DD.

Edited July 3, 2025 by belegost

[Anunya]

I've mostly played SL based games, but had a fairly long OStim based one that I liked.

 

What I liked about Ostim is that there was more interactivity. Basically, the player controls what the people having sex do, and when - transitioning between different positions and whatnot. I personally don't need that kind of control necessarily, but I did enjoy being involved in making decisions and interacting with the game during sex. I found it more engaging.

 

Nonetheless I went back to SexLab. I typicially prefer playing "girls who get themselves in so much trouble" type games, and deciding exactly what happens during sex doesn't really line up with that. And, as Belegost says, there are a lot of mods that fit that playstyle that aren't available for OStim (devious devices and then all the mods that require it as a prerequisite, which are quite a lot).

 

If SL had some sort of way to interact with the sex to add a bit of gameplay, that'd be ideal, but even without it the bench strength of the mods built on it keeps it the best mod for my tastes.

 

So my answer to OP's question is: I think it's highly unlikely.

[FauxFurry]

People still use Flower Girls and Skyrim Legendary Edition so it is highly improbable.

With mods like Sensual Scene Adaptor and SLAL to Ostim, it makes swapping between the two systems on the fly a lot less painful than it used to be, however. As for non-con scenes, there is OSimpleDefeat for Ascheron.

[Count Chocula]

On 7/20/2025 at 7:21 PM, FauxFurry said:

People still use Flower Girls and Skyrim Legendary Edition so it is highly improbable.

With mods like Sensual Scene Adaptor and SLAL to Ostim, it makes swapping between the two systems on the fly a lot less painful than it used to be, however. As for non-con scenes, there is OSimpleDefeat for Ascheron.

There are probably still some people using Windows 8, but that doesn't mean it hasn't been replaced.

[FauxFurry]

1 hour ago, Count Chocula said:

There are probably still some people using Windows 8, but that doesn't mean it hasn't been replaced.

It is also a corporate product. It will be replaced when its manufacturers want it to be replaced. Mod frameworks, on the other hand, can stick around as long as there are people actively make new add-ons or conversions for it. 

 

Perhaps one day, Ostim will become the preferred platform but it is unlikely that it will do so any time soon partly due to fewer mods having compatibility with it. It being available on Nexus Mods might give it a bit of a boost, though.

Being on the current biggest mod aggregator which has its own installation guide could end up fast-tracking it the same as selling one's own personal brand of treats in a super market gives one an edge over selling it on a street corner in a booth. 

[sibasi]

On 7/3/2025 at 6:19 AM, Mort-Vivant said:

 

What's the notable difference between ostim and SL ? Personnaly I'm staying on SL because it's all I know and I understand how to make it work. Also I just don't want to learn how to deal with ostim, something new, for something similar (nsfw skyrim) ^^

 

I come from hardcore SL user. Tried OSA, nope.. and Ostim, Ostim NG, on earlier stage perhaps. Not interested.  Years later, i tried Valerica from Martianman  combine with Ostim Standalone patch. And it take me by surprise how smooth the animation is. I think I am using the curated animation one. So the transition of the animation look so seamless for me.  Then I dig further about Ostim Standalone. It improve much... imho.  First person camera supported, Inflation supported, and many more ported to Ostim Standalone. You can also port SLAL to Ostim Standalone on your own.... so it is Ostim Standalone now for me. 

[sibasi]

On 7/4/2025 at 1:47 AM, belegost said:

OStim doesn't have anything equivalent to Devious Devices and therefore all the nice and fancy mods that go with it, including all the gameplay changing ones. It's nice if you want Skyrim with just plain, old, consensual sex without additional gameplay loops or challenges of any significance. It's a very pretty sex, I admit it, but just sex nonetheless. It's boring.

 

For spicier stuff and all the kinks you want SL and DD.

Yes, agree.  If you are into DD, Defeat, Slavery then SL is the way to go.