Advanced, highly customizable human race (WIP)

[Bluegunk]

How come I missed this? Wow - this is awesome, @drp23. I really look forward to this coming to fruition!  If you want a tester, I'd be happy to try stuff out.

[djay135]

On 12/4/2024 at 8:06 AM, Bluegunk said:

How come I missed this? Wow - this is awesome, @drp23. I really look forward to this coming to fruition!  If you want a tester, I'd be happy to try stuff out.

because this should also be on nexus like i said before to get more eyes on it

[Bluegunk]

12 hours ago, djay135 said:

because this should also be on nexus like i said before to get more eyes on it

I think the drawback with this site over Nexus, is the text based front end. New stuff isn't so easy to spot. But Ashal doesn't have Nexus's money!

[NotDiscoDragonInAWig]

can we get boob sliders?

[lukeyx]

On 11/30/2024 at 11:50 PM, drp23 said:

but if you know anyone who knows their way around python

I do know a little... don't know if it's enough for what you need though 😅😅
Maybe you can share a bit about why/what you need in python?

But hey, if you ever need anything related to JS, React/React Native, or a little bit of Node, you can count me in 🦾🦾, as those are more my areas of expertise 😆

[Dakhma]

When is next alpha release?

[Djlegends]

1 hour ago, Dakhma said:

When is next alpha release?

check his discord its been uploaded recently

[BVOne]

Wow, looks awesome!

When this mod will come out? I just started a new game and wish to include this mod into it ASAP

[Djlegends]

6 hours ago, BVOne said:

Wow, looks awesome!

When this mod will come out? I just started a new game and wish to include this mod into it ASAP

alpha build is out on discord

[BurgerBob7]

1 hour ago, Djlegends said:

alpha build is out on discord

Where is the discord? O.O

[Djlegends]

5 hours ago, BurgerBob7 said:

Where is the discord? O.O

removed due to alpha state

Edited December 16, 2024 by Djlegends

[drp23]

It's not in a great state atm, it's just a single character with no options.  I'm working on an update, as soon as its in a better state I'll post something

[Millstallone]

Woah, a face that doesn't look like it's made of putty? Unreal!

[SnooperNoSnooping]

21 hours ago, Millstallone said:

Woah, a face that doesn't look like it's made of putty? Unreal!

Nope, creation engine 2.

[drp23]

On 12/15/2024 at 12:01 PM, BVOne said:

Wow, looks awesome!

When this mod will come out? I just started a new game and wish to include this mod into it ASAP

I'll have a playable version out hopefully within the next week or so.  I'm finishing up an update, then need to give it a good look over and see if I can't get a few pesky bugs fixed that i've been unable to fix so far, the update after this one will be when an "open beta" happens.  

[Lorphe]

Most promising project yet, keep it up!

[ana1omnomnom]

Fantastic work!  Thanks for showing the community things like this are possible.  Starfield has enormous modding potential, the most of any bethesda game IMO (vehicles for starters).  It just doesn't have the same appeal or playerbase as the elder scrolls or fallout universes.  BSG claims they are looking towards a long term support model so hopefully they continue to release DLC and new capabilities that bring back players and let this game reach its full potential.

 

Watching this with interest!

[Djlegends]

4 hours ago, ana1omnomnom said:

Fantastic work!  Thanks for showing the community things like this are possible.  Starfield has enormous modding potential, the most of any bethesda game IMO (vehicles for starters).  It just doesn't have the same appeal or playerbase as the elder scrolls or fallout universes.  BSG claims they are looking towards a long term support model so hopefully they continue to release DLC and new capabilities that bring back players and let this game reach its full potential.

 

Watching this with interest!

well they just gotten a new Lead quest Designer so heres hoping to somthing
also looks like he created Trackers Alliance Quest Expansion

[drp23]

Just giving a little update on what's being worked on (and why there isn't a public beta yet):

Currently, the main goal is to get the shape blending and texture generation fully functional. 

I'm leaning towards a system that lets you replace each of the chargen morph phenotypes (like female_as_ol1, etc) with characters, and blend between them just as you do in chargen already.  Under this system, if you had a character you wanted 1:1 ingame, you'd just set all of the morphs for jaw, cheeks, mouth, eyes, etc to 1 for whichever slot you filled.  

Towards this goal, huge progress has been made, it will now use a newly written blender integration of dem bones (Smooth Skinning Decomposition with Rigid Bones) (credit: deveris for blender wrapper) under the hood to correctly generate the facebones positions, then split that morph into the face regions according to the bone morph definitions found at humanracefacialboneregionsmapping.csv and write those to the new race's facial bone regions file. 

As far as textures go, one of the challenges was figuring out how to color match faces to bodies.  This has partially been solved with another blender script, which implements the general concept of the paper "Independent-component analysis of skin color image" (pdf) directly on skin textures, to seperate the skin's hemoglobin and melanin concentrations into two single channel maps, which can then be much easier blended, and makes generating the 10 skin tones for a skin texture much easier, and somewhat more physically accurate. Example:
 

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the absolute fucking monster that one-shotted that code, on the first try.


There are still some kinks to work out though, and a UI still has to be made so this is even remotely usable without being immensely confusing.  On a positive note, switching to this setup pretty much avoids all of the performance issues I was worried about. 

 

Edited January 14, 2025 by drp23
clarity

[WolfCHConce]

This really look amazing, I thonk betseda really mada and awful work inthe female charater. great effort in your work!!

[Zo966]

I was just minding my own business downloading UBE mods then a thought cross my mind how's starfield doing right now then i recalled a mod that will be the next evolution in are monkey brains for (character creation) for SF so I scoured the lands...then i found it the mod that will rule them all,I can't wait until this is release, question, how can I get into the discord? I looked around and I can't find the link for it or I'm just that dumb 

[drp23]

19 hours ago, Zo966 said:

I was just minding my own business downloading UBE mods then a thought cross my mind how's starfield doing right now then i recalled a mod that will be the next evolution in are monkey brains for (character creation) for SF so I scoured the lands...then i found it the mod that will rule them all,I can't wait until this is release, question, how can I get into the discord? I looked around and I can't find the link for it or I'm just that dumb 

I haven't posted a link yet.  I'm working to get at least some of the cool stuff working before I went into open beta, ATM there's not a whole lot of customization options (one skintone, no conversions for non-vanilla clothes), and other than the way it looks, its not a whole lot different from the other body mods.

I would go ahead and open it up (maybe I will soon if this ends up taking too long), but want to see about some other changes that I might make soon to the skeleton, depending on how some physics experiments go

 

[Zo966]

5 hours ago, drp23 said:

I haven't posted a link yet.  I'm working to get at least some of the cool stuff working before I went into open beta, ATM there's not a whole lot of customization options (one skintone, no conversions for non-vanilla clothes), and other than the way it looks, its not a whole lot different from the other body mods.

I would go ahead and open it up (maybe I will soon if this ends up taking too long), but want to see about some other changes that I might make soon to the skeleton, depending on how some physics experiments go

 

Well keep up the great work, i know this sounds cheesy but for me when others gave up,u took up the mantel and kept going, so like the old saying goes, rome was not built in a day take your time u got this 😉 an thank u for giving your time to this project 

[drp23]

2 hours ago, Zo966 said:

Well keep up the great work, i know this sounds cheesy but for me when others gave up,u took up the mantel and kept going, so like the old saying goes, rome was not built in a day take your time u got this 😉 an thank u for giving your time to this project 

I think everyone giving up and the whole "bethesda bad, starfield bad" thing is a pretty big part of what pushed me to do all of this actually.  Im somewhat of a contrarian.

Also, I think it's pretty stupid for so many people to be like  "this game sucks and its boring, i'm sticking with fallout", as if they don't have 1000+ plugins in their load order, having not seen a vanilla weapon or NPC in years, none of the vanilla balance or gameplay remains, and in many cases their modded load order is barely even the same fucking genre as vanilla.  Fallout isn't a tactical, milsim, hardcore survival game, nor is it a settlement management simulator... its an rpg.  But with mods its all of the above, if you want.  It's not so crazy to think that if fallout can do that, starfield can... idk... just be a little less boring sometimes?  🤔

[Zo966]

3 hours ago, drp23 said:

I think everyone giving up and the whole "bethesda bad, starfield bad" thing is a pretty big part of what pushed me to do all of this actually.  Im somewhat of a contrarian.

Also, I think it's pretty stupid for so many people to be like  "this game sucks and its boring, i'm sticking with fallout", as if they don't have 1000+ plugins in their load order, having not seen a vanilla weapon or NPC in years, none of the vanilla balance or gameplay remains, and in many cases their modded load order is barely even the same fucking genre as vanilla.  Fallout isn't a tactical, milsim, hardcore survival game, nor is it a settlement management simulator... its an rpg.  But with mods its all of the above, if you want.  It's not so crazy to think that if fallout can do that, starfield can... idk... just be a little less boring sometimes?  🤔

Hmmm I agree to that , I feel that we an bethesda are situationship, how we say crap about their games but then we play it then download crazy amounts mods to make it better or change whole game we rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat over and over for every game, we are snake 🐍 that won't let go of it's tale in a way