Fallout 3 help

[KainsChylde]

I know most everyone here prefers New Vegas. Hell, I prefer New Vegas. But there are a couple mods I love that cannot be converted to TTW due to FOSE requirements. So I'm trying a Fallout 3 playthrough, and so far it's been going well. I'm up to level 29 and suddenly having a problem. I can't save. Quicksave, hard save, CASM, or console, any attempt to save results in an instant CTD. Anyone else experience this, or know what causes it and how to fix it? I'm desperate here.

 

Load order:

 

Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
Lings.esm
LingsDLC.esm
CALIBR.esm
xCALIBR.esm
TheInstitute.esm
LingsFinerThings.esm
CrossModData.esm
Animy_prostitution.esm
Abbreviated Effects.esm
URWLRain.esm
DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm
GNRBuilding_BoS.esm
Mothership Crew.esm
TSC Air Support.esm
TSC Point Lookout.esm
RHKBrisaAlmodovar.esm
MetroCity.esp
Metro City.esp
BelthansQuoVagis.esm
EVE.esm
TSC Lincoln Memorial.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp
DarNifiedUIF3.esp
CASM.esp
CALIBRxMerchant.esp
Overhead3PCamera.esp
Zombie Sounds V2.esp
NightmareRealm.esp
Megaton Tweaks - Snipers Edition.esp
Cleaned Rivet City.esp
LevelersChamber.esp
megalight.esp
CRBSOR.esp
pipboy2500_fo3_edisleado.esp
Zap-Away.esp
USMC_Weapons.esp
Wolverine Ability.esp
BQV2DLC.esp
Portable Home Small.esp
BaileysCrossingMetro.esp
GNRBuilding_Studio.esp
T6M Competition Swimsuit.esp
HeirApparent.esp
IntoTheDeepWoods.esp
NotSoFast.esp
PLweightadjust.esp
PLFewerItems.esp
The Mantis Imperative - Mantis.esp
The Mantis Imperative - Jello.esp
FasterMorePowerfulMines.esp
CanterburyCommonsInteriors.esp
BQV2CCI.esp
TSC Air Support.esp
Mothership Crew Clothing addon.esp
Mothership Zeta Retrofitted.esp
MZC-Gear-StarWarsArmorRifle.esp
MZC - Grammar Nazi.esp
MZC-Gear-InfirmaryBiogel.esp
MZC-Gear-InfirmaryBiogelThunderfistArmory.esp
MZCComQuartersRefined.esp
TSC - 112.esp
TSC - Baby Marie.esp
TSC - Scientific Rediscovery.esp
TSC Dialogues.esp
TSC Erebus.esp
TSC New Quarters.esp
TSC Oasis.esp
TSC outposts.esp
TSC Prospecting.esp
MZC Addon-Olympus Armory.esp
Lings Finer Things.esp
LingsPrettyThings.esp
LingsPrettyThings-BrokenSteel.esp
URWLRain - PointLookout.esp
URWLRain - The Pitt.esp
URWLRain - Anchorage.esp
AQFH.esp
AQFH2.esp
RHKBrisaAlmodovar - DLC.esp
RHKBrisaAlmodovar - Custom - Lings.esp
CharonImproved.esp
MergePatch.esp

Total active plugins: 98
Total plugins: 99

 

[Halstrom]

I know most everyone here prefers New Vegas. Hell, I prefer New Vegas. But there are a couple mods I love that cannot be converted to TTW due to FOSE requirements. So I'm trying a Fallout 3 playthrough, and so far it's been going well. I'm up to level 29 and suddenly having a problem. I can't save. Quicksave, hard save, CASM, or console, any attempt to save results in an instant CTD. Anyone else experience this, or know what causes it and how to fix it? I'm desperate here.

 

Load order:

 

Fallout3.esm

Anchorage.esm

ThePitt.esm

BrokenSteel.esm

PointLookout.esm

Zeta.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esm

Lings.esm

LingsDLC.esm

CALIBR.esm

xCALIBR.esm

TheInstitute.esm

LingsFinerThings.esm

CrossModData.esm

Animy_prostitution.esm

Abbreviated Effects.esm

URWLRain.esm

DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm

GNRBuilding_BoS.esm

Mothership Crew.esm

TSC Air Support.esm

TSC Point Lookout.esm

RHKBrisaAlmodovar.esm

MetroCity.esp

Metro City.esp

BelthansQuoVagis.esm

EVE.esm

TSC Lincoln Memorial.esm

Mart's Mutant Mod.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp

Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp

DarNifiedUIF3.esp

CASM.esp

CALIBRxMerchant.esp

Overhead3PCamera.esp

Zombie Sounds V2.esp

NightmareRealm.esp

Megaton Tweaks - Snipers Edition.esp

Cleaned Rivet City.esp

LevelersChamber.esp

megalight.esp

CRBSOR.esp

pipboy2500_fo3_edisleado.esp

Zap-Away.esp

USMC_Weapons.esp

Wolverine Ability.esp

BQV2DLC.esp

Portable Home Small.esp

BaileysCrossingMetro.esp

GNRBuilding_Studio.esp

T6M Competition Swimsuit.esp

HeirApparent.esp

IntoTheDeepWoods.esp

NotSoFast.esp

PLweightadjust.esp

PLFewerItems.esp

The Mantis Imperative - Mantis.esp

The Mantis Imperative - Jello.esp

FasterMorePowerfulMines.esp

CanterburyCommonsInteriors.esp

BQV2CCI.esp

TSC Air Support.esp

Mothership Crew Clothing addon.esp

Mothership Zeta Retrofitted.esp

MZC-Gear-StarWarsArmorRifle.esp

MZC - Grammar Nazi.esp

MZC-Gear-InfirmaryBiogel.esp

MZC-Gear-InfirmaryBiogelThunderfistArmory.esp

MZCComQuartersRefined.esp

TSC - 112.esp

TSC - Baby Marie.esp

TSC - Scientific Rediscovery.esp

TSC Dialogues.esp

TSC Erebus.esp

TSC New Quarters.esp

TSC Oasis.esp

TSC outposts.esp

TSC Prospecting.esp

MZC Addon-Olympus Armory.esp

Lings Finer Things.esp

LingsPrettyThings.esp

LingsPrettyThings-BrokenSteel.esp

URWLRain - PointLookout.esp

URWLRain - The Pitt.esp

URWLRain - Anchorage.esp

AQFH.esp

AQFH2.esp

RHKBrisaAlmodovar - DLC.esp

RHKBrisaAlmodovar - Custom - Lings.esp

CharonImproved.esp

MergePatch.esp

 

Total active plugins: 98

Total plugins: 99

 

 

Did you by chance just install the latest SCR alpha? I'm having exactly the same problem, but even with no mods.

[Swyke]

 

Did you by chance just install the latest SCR alpha? I'm having exactly the same problem, but even with no mods.

 

 

SCR for fallout 3 ?

[KainsChylde]

Umm, I'm not running TTW, I'm playing actual Fallout 3. Open the spoiler, you will see no sexout plugins. Because it's Fallout 3.

[ChianasGeek]

I don't know a fair few of the mods in your LO, except by name. Only thought I have atm is when I did a playthrough last year, adding some of the MZC additional stuff gave me some weirdness. Although, to be fair, I can only remember one issue with a post Rivet City sequence.

 

I assume you've done a BOSS auto-sort, of course. (With BOSS itself or from FOMM? (I only use BOSS native in cases of dire need, as the in-FOMM one seems to be better / updated more often.))

 

I hope someone else can help!

 

[Halstrom]

 

 

Did you by chance just install the latest SCR alpha? I'm having exactly the same problem, but even with no mods.

 

 

SCR for fallout 3 ?

 

LOL, I assumed he was using TTW, SCR conversion itself for FO3 wouldn't be that hard to do really

 

Umm, I'm not running TTW, I'm playing actual Fallout 3. Open the spoiler, you will see no sexout plugins. Because it's Fallout 3.

 

Well that's a relief, it's probably just some simple international Steam conspiracy

[jaam]

I know most everyone here prefers New Vegas. Hell, I prefer New Vegas. But there are a couple mods I love that cannot be converted to TTW due to FOSE requirements. So I'm trying a Fallout 3 playthrough, and so far it's been going well. I'm up to level 29 and suddenly having a problem. I can't save. Quicksave, hard save, CASM, or console, any attempt to save results in an instant CTD. Anyone else experience this, or know what causes it and how to fix it? I'm desperate here.

 

 

 

1) Can you post the crash report from the Event log ? At least to know where it crashes.

2) Which part of FOSE blocks you? I would think everything in FOSE is in NVSE today.

[DoctaSax]

2) Which part of FOSE blocks you? I would think everything in FOSE is in NVSE today.

Maybe the mods themselves check for the FOSE version?

[jaam]

That should be taken into account by the TTW convserion script. I'll have to check.

 

[Guest endgameaddiction]

It's called corrupt save. Which is a very common issue. The cause of this is pretty unknown.

 

Solution: kill yourself when you restart the game. This will temporarily fix the bug problem while you are still playing. Once you close Fallout 3 and launch it again, you'll have to repeat this step again in order to keep playing normal from here on out.

 

Corrupt saves can be random. It's very common for it to occur later on during the game. Though, I've had it occur to me when my character was around level 5 and I was barely exploring.

 

Downside: There is no permanent fix for this once it happens.

[KainsChylde]

Yes, I've used BOSS to sort the mods, and FO3Edit to make a merged patch to resolve conflicts.

 

Event Log

 

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1000
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0x80000000000000

106193
Application
David-PC


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Fallout3.exe
1.7.0.3
4a40f18b
Fallout3.exe
1.7.0.3
4a40f18b
c0000005
002d37ec
5c0
01cef85e2c4ab9e5
C:\Gaming\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 3 goty\Fallout3.exe
C:\Gaming\Steam\steamapps\common\Fallout 3 goty\Fallout3.exe
9032443c-6451-11e3-89dc-5404a630bbdd

 

 

I don't know how FOSE blocks it, all I know is that several people have tried and failed to convert Mothership Zeta Crew and the Quest For Heaven series, and neither will work right post conversion.

 

Endgameaddiction, let me make sure I understand you right. I load the game, let myself die somehow and reload, and then I should be able to save? I'll need to remove a mod to do that, I'm running Wolverine Mutation and it's kinda hard to die.

[Symon]

What patch version are you on? Should be 1.7

Are any of those esps esmified? None should be.

You aren't running any of the unofficial patches, especially the broken steel unofficial patch patch. (Seriously)

Have you started Broken Steel recently?

[KainsChylde]

My game is current through Steam.

The only mastered esps are MetroCity and Metro City. They clean up some of the metro tunnels. I was going to remove them, I try to avoid the metros, I get lost.

Should I be running unofficial patches? I get conflicting reports on their effectiveness.

No, I'm not even close to starting Broken Steel. I haven't even been to the purifier yet, I've been playing mod missions.

[Guest endgameaddiction]

 

Endgameaddiction, let me make sure I understand you right. I load the game, let myself die somehow and reload, and then I should be able to save? I'll need to remove a mod to do that, I'm running Wolverine Mutation and it's kinda hard to die.

 

Yes. It's weird, but it works. I just commit suicide with grenades a missile launcher or fatman to quicken the process. because sometimes I end up manually saving it at a current point and a few seconds later CASM will try to do an autosave and crash the game.

 

I don't see how a mod would have an effect on causing you to CTD when trying to save. It's a known problem that occurs even to people playing the game pure vanilla.

[KainsChylde]

Oh, no I don't mean that. Someone made a mod that pretty much turns you into Wolverine. Its nearly impossible to die. Its actually made the game pretty dull, I waz thinking of getting rid of it anyway.

[ChianasGeek]

My game is current through Steam.

The only mastered esps are MetroCity and Metro City. They clean up some of the metro tunnels. I was going to remove them, I try to avoid the metros, I get lost.

Should I be running unofficial patches? I get conflicting reports on their effectiveness.

No, I'm not even close to starting Broken Steel. I haven't even been to the purifier yet, I've been playing mod missions.

 

Getting lost is part of the fun!

 

Regarding unofficial patch... There's now an Updated Unofficial Patch, by BenWah and hairylegs222:

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/19122/?

[KainsChylde]

I like HairyLegs work with NVEC. I'll check that out. Haven't been able to try the suicide trick yet, had to go to work. I hope it works, I don't want to start over again.

[Guest endgameaddiction]

Oh, no I don't mean that. Someone made a mod that pretty much turns you into Wolverine. Its nearly impossible to die. Its actually made the game pretty dull, I waz thinking of getting rid of it anyway.

 

 

Oh, no worries. I know what you meant. I know about that mod (sort of) I just mean in general that I never read any case of saves causing CTD because of a mod.

 

Hope you do get it resolved if in any case I am wrong. I know how much of a time sinker it can be figuring out the issue. Most of my mods are manually installed, so running into problems then having to uninstall and remove everything to redo a fresh install + mod installing is such a drag.................

[KainsChylde]

I tried manual install once. Had a conflict that was a right bugger to track down and remove all the files for. I'll take the time to properly restructure a file for FOMM over doing that again any day.

[KainsChylde]

Well, I tried the final solution. Unfortunately, in games as in life, suicide was not the answer. Looks like I'm starting a new game, again. I've got the updated unofficial patch installed, now to see if it helps. Thanks anyway, everyone. I appreciate the attempts. I'll archive this save in case anyone has an epiphany.

[KainsChylde]

So let's say I still have the original Vault Exit save of this same character. Would it work to restart from there, or should I scrap the character completely and start from scratch?

 

[Guest]

I knew the suicide thing for corrupt saves, but really not being able to save anymore is a consequence of a previous loaded corrupt save? I didn't know that, this is scary! Anyway, if it's so, you could find another savegame not corrupted that allows you to save again, so you have not to play 29 levels again. Not that it's a great pain, at the contrary FO3 is such a great pleasure!

[ChianasGeek]

So let's say I still have the original Vault Exit save of this same character. Would it work to restart from there, or should I scrap the character completely and start from scratch?

 

If you don't have a save from later, before the corruption, yeah, it should be safe. But I'm only guessing.

 

One thought: I remember seeing in the Fallout wiki about corrupt saves occurring for people after going to the Repconn place west of Novac. I know that's for New Vegas, but maybe it's worth checking places you've been recently in FO3 for similar?

 

Anyway, feeling for ya - I'm up to level 17 on FO3 atm; I wouldn't want to start over if this one went bad!

[KainsChylde]

Now I have a new issue. Installed the unofficial patch and started a new game. Everything is working mostly fine, but the women in game will randomly turn pure black. Saving and reloading fixes it, but any clue what might be causing it?

 

New Load Order

 

Fallout3.esm
Anchorage.esm
ThePitt.esm
BrokenSteel.esm
PointLookout.esm
Zeta.esm
Unofficial Fallout 3 Patch.esm
CALIBR.esm
xCALIBR.esm
TheInstitute.esm
GNRBuilding_BoS.esm
Mothership Crew.esm
TSC Air Support.esm
EVE.esm
Mart's Mutant Mod.esm
RHKBrisaAlmodovar.esm
CrossModData.esm
Animy_prostitution.esm
DCInteriors_ComboEdition.esm
Abbreviated Effects.esm
TSC Lincoln Memorial.esm
URWLRain.esm
TSC Point Lookout.esm
BelthansQuoVagis.esm
Lings.esm
LingsDLC.esm
LingsFinerThings.esm
DarNifiedUIF3.esp
CASM.esp
CALIBRxMerchant.esp
Overhead3PCamera.esp
Zombie Sounds V2.esp
AQFH2.esp
AQFH3.esp
HeirApparent.esp
IntoTheDeepWoods.esp
NotSoFast.esp
PLweightadjust.esp
PLFewerItems.esp
The Mantis Imperative - Mantis.esp
The Mantis Imperative - Jello.esp
Megaton Tweaks - Snipers Edition.esp
Cleaned Rivet City.esp
GNRBuilding_Studio.esp
LevelersChamber.esp
megalight.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Anchorage.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC The Pitt.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Broken Steel.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Point Lookout.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - DLC Zeta.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Zones Respawn.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Tougher Traders.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Natural Selection.esp
Mart's Mutant Mod - Master Menu Module.esp
FasterMorePowerfulMines.esp
MZC Addon-Olympus Armory.esp
TSC Air Support.esp
CRBSOR.esp
pipboy2500_fo3_edisleado.esp
Zap-Away.esp
Wolverine Ability.esp
Portable Home Small.esp
BaileysCrossingMetro.esp
T6M Competition Swimsuit.esp
Mothership Crew Clothing addon.esp
Mothership Zeta Retrofitted.esp
MZC-Gear-StarWarsArmorRifle.esp
MZC - Grammar Nazi.esp
MZC-Gear-InfirmaryBiogel.esp
MZC-Gear-InfirmaryBiogelThunderfistArmory.esp
MZCComQuartersRefined.esp
TSC - 112.esp
TSC - Baby Marie.esp
TSC - Scientific Rediscovery.esp
TSC Dialogues.esp
TSC Erebus.esp
TSC New Quarters.esp
TSC Oasis.esp
TSC outposts.esp
TSC Prospecting.esp
URWLRain - PointLookout.esp
URWLRain - The Pitt.esp
URWLRain - Anchorage.esp
Lings Finer Things.esp
LingsPrettyThings.esp
LingsPrettyThings-BrokenSteel.esp
RHKBrisaAlmodovar - Custom - Lings.esp
RHKBrisaAlmodovar - DLC.esp
CharonImproved.esp
EwwGhoulyBody.esp
BQV2DLC.esp
USMC_Weapons.esp
MergePatch.esp

Total active plugins: 95
Total plugins: 96

 

[KainsChylde]

This should probably be moved to Tech Support, huh?