HC Mods corner (SotTR, HFW)

[randomfornow]

8 hours ago, hornycopter said:

If I figure out how to install bodypaint separately from main mod - there will be several various bodypaint options.

 

There is only a few outfits that reveal Aloy abs inf HFW, "Carja Blazon" in your picture is indeed looks like have more defined abs than other oufits. "Carja Blazon" I think is inherited from previous HZD game, so maybe it uses sligltly different body mesh or textures - will look into that.

 

There is another outfit very similar to "Tenakth Recon" (affected in my mod) - and it has very simular bodypaint and no cape, it's called "Tenakth Dragoon".  See below:

So I'm not gonna change "Tenakth Recon" - but I'll add modified version of "Tenakth Dragoon" some time in the future instead - It'll have very simular look and bodypaint, but no cape.

 

Correct, right now she is "barbie doll" underneath the loincloth, but I'm working on adding back missing details and increasing overall body model polycount for the next release of the mod.

 

Absolutely incredible work, I know this is made possible due to the tools but this mod is looking amazing.

I know the fully nude version is still in the works, but are you also planning a version of your skimpy mod where she's still got some of the armor, just bare tits / no loincloth?

[Omegon?]

I wonder if its possible to give aloy other armors in the game that some NPCs wear. Now that we got this breakthrough. Some of the Skyclan NPCs have super cool armor sets that arent avaliable for Aloy sadly.

[VonRaschke]

Do you plan on also modding the original Horizon Zero Dawn?

[hornycopter]

12 hours ago, randomfornow said:

are you also planning a version of your skimpy mod where she's still got some of the armor, just bare tits / no loincloth?

Yeah, I wanna try to create option with something like this after I finish "Vanilla" body model.

 

11 hours ago, Omegon? said:

Some of the Skyclan NPCs have super cool armor sets that arent avaliable for Aloy sadly.

Can you share screenshots of your favorite outfits as examples? It'll be harder to borrow outfits from NPCs, because I believe we can't easely swap materials between models right now, but I think I could figure out my way out of this restriction if results will be worth the swap.

 

7 hours ago, VonRaschke said:

Do you plan on also modding the original Horizon Zero Dawn?

No, I think I can't go back to HZD after I've introduced myself to HFW skin shader. Now everyone in original HZD is looking like plastic dolls for me. But I'll try HZD Remaster modding as soon as import tools will be available for it, because it has almost identical engine to HFW.

 

Edited July 5, 2025 by hornycopter

[VonRaschke]

Guess that will give me a reason to play the remaster then  

[Omegon?]

3 hours ago, hornycopter said:

Can you share screenshots of your favorite outfits as examples? It'll be harder to borrow outfits from NPCs, because I believe we can't easely swap materials between models right now, but I think I could figure out my way out of this restriction if results will be worth the swap.

 

looking back at them, I think its mostly this armor set https://horizon.fandom.com/wiki/Jekkah

 

 

thew bodypaint is also nice, and maybe its not too much work removing the top? dunno since Im not familiar with modding.

 

but thank you for taking your time to consider this.

[hornycopter]

1 hour ago, Omegon? said:

I think its mostly this armor set https://horizon.fandom.com/wiki/Jekkah

Damn, looks like I need to pay more attention to NPCs. I've checked other tribes NPCs - and their tops and footwear actually more suitable to mod to achieve "Skimpy Outfits". Skirts are mostly the same for everyone though. Played game long time ago, didn't remember those details. Thanks for idea.

Edited July 5, 2025 by hornycopter

[lexikat]

if we're talking about NPC outfits, the lowland clan outfits are just begging for a skimpier version.

 

I'd love to see aloy in those that top with like 2/3 of reeds missing, so you can clearly see her tits, but she still pretends she's covered. 

[hornycopter]

1 hour ago, lexikat said:

lowland clan outfits are just begging for a skimpier version.

Yep, also noticed this one 😏, already added to my ref images pile, still need to find it inside game files first though

 

Edited July 5, 2025 by hornycopter

[Reaper59]

Any updates Hornycopter on anything new?

Not trying to rush you or anything,  I'm just amazed on the great work you've done so far and I'm excited to know on where you go from here.

[alonso14959]

Mate, first of all, AMAZING work!!! All your mods are perfect.

 

Secondly, since you manage to work with Sony's engine to mod Forbidden West, do you have any plans to mod The Last of Us Part 2 Remastered?

[lljs39]

Not gonna ask you any questions or propose any requests, will just prostrate myself in front of your couch and repeat over and over:

 

Edited July 9, 2025 by lljs39

[VonRaschke]

5 hours ago, alonso14959 said:

Mate, first of all, AMAZING work!!! All your mods are perfect.

 

Secondly, since you manage to work with Sony's engine to mod Forbidden West, do you have any plans to mod The Last of Us Part 2 Remastered?

Sony games don't use a single engine. Horizon Forbidden West uses a version of the Decima engine, while The Last of Us Part 2 Remastered runs on a proprietary engine.

[CrypticWonders]

Great to finally see this mod being possible

 

How accurate is this to her vanilla body?

 

Also anyone know how accurate the Zero dawn mods were to her actual body?

 

If Zero Dawn is more accurate than this would it be possible to port her body from Zero Dawn into Forbidden West for more body accuracy?

[alonso14959]

55 minutes ago, CrypticWonders said:

Great to finally see this mod being possible

 

How accurate is this to her vanilla body?

 

Also anyone know how accurate the Zero dawn mods were to her actual body?

 

If Zero Dawn is more accurate than this would it be possible to port her body from Zero Dawn into Forbidden West for more body accuracy?

If I'm not mistaken, he said that Aloy's body isn't present in the game files, only her clothes, so he had to choose an NPC body that showed more skin and model it based on those proportions. 

 

I can't say how accurate the body is, because none of the default armor is too tight or leaves Aloy's thighs and butt completely visible, but I think it's a pretty accurate interpretation. Her breasts also look very similar to the pre-patched ones. I think this is as close you can get to "canon" naked Aloy

[Samus01]

No, the breasts in @mustafalis's mod are the ones Aloy has. There's also a video and a picture here where you can see them.
And I think the smaller breasts suit her better, given her height and build.

 

But kudos to @hornycopter for this achievement.

[alonso14959]

2 hours ago, Samus01 said:

No, the breasts in @mustafalis's mod are the ones Aloy has. There's also a video and a picture here where you can see them.
And I think the smaller breasts suit her better, given her height and build.

 

But kudos to @hornycopter for this achievement.

 

The pre-patched breasts were larger than the ones in @mustafalis' mod, but I'm starting to believe Aloy might have different bodies and sizes for each armor, causing inconsistencies...

 

[lexikat]

Aloys upper body, ie her boobs, is in the vanilla game files. that's the original outfit reducer showed. however (post patch) there was no nipple texture. mustafalls added in the nipple texture to default model.

 

the problem with that was that there wasn't anything in her pants. so hornycopter took a different female npc, and shaped it closer to aloys body. 

 

1 hour ago, alonso14959 said:

 

The pre-patched breasts were larger than the ones in @mustafalis' mod, but I'm starting to believe Aloy might have different bodies and sizes for each armor, causing inconsistencies...

 

 

to see them with the glitch, you had to zoom in close with an a ultra-wide fov, and the "lens distortinon" makes her boobs look bigger. this image is a composite of a zoomed in glitch photo and different one. 

[Demonwise]

2 hours ago, lexikat said:

to see them with the glitch, you had to zoom in close with an a ultra-wide fov, and the "lens distortinon" makes her boobs look bigger. this image is a composite of a zoomed in glitch photo and different one. 

 

So what I am hearing is that if I go through life with a fisheye lens attached to my glasses and get a really close look at every passing woman's chest then every woman I see will have big boobs?

[hornycopter]

On 7/9/2025 at 4:32 AM, alonso14959 said:

Secondly, since you manage to work with Sony's engine to mod Forbidden West, do you have any plans to mod The Last of Us Part 2 Remastered?

Different engines, HFW and HZDR use latest version of Decima engine by Guerrilla Games, TLoU2 use in-house game engine by Naughty Dog, which is not publicly named I beleive. Haven't touched Naughty Dog games yet in terms of modding and have no plans fot them for now.

 

21 hours ago, CrypticWonders said:

How accurate is this to her vanilla body?

This mod is my attempt to restore her original body model as I see it. HFW has only partial upper body model of Aloy in "Tenakth Recon" outfit, with some arms parts missing still (behind armbands).

 

19 hours ago, Samus01 said:

No, the breasts in @mustafalis's mod are the ones Aloy has.

I think this is a misbelief. I think her breast were specially flattened out by developers to prevent models from clipping through various outfits chest pieces during animations - i.e. for technical reasons. I believe her original body model was not like that.

 

For example - Her "rope bra" in original "Tenakth Recon" outfit is several sizes bigger than her breast underneath (their shape also is kinda mangled) - there was a gap and bra was mostly filled with "air" - that's why "peek-through" bra screenshots were possible in first place and breast mesh visibility didn't cut off right away at same time as the bra itself.


I've increased breast size to tightly fit that bra as they normally should - That's why my model ended up with slightly bigger breasts and this size I think also correspond more to other Aloy outfits - she don't have such flat chest in any of them as in @mustafalis's mod.

Other examples - I saw same thing happen for female NPCs in HFW files several times - chest area of body model mangled to fit under armor pieces on top.

It's pretty common "wack job" for characters in other games too, "industry standard" I may say😉 - just sloppely push not visible parts inside visible ones until they stop showing up during animation - if parts should not be visible at first place, then nobody cares.

 

14 hours ago, lexikat said:

the problem with that was that there wasn't anything in her pants

Yep, none of the Aloy models in game files have full lower torso and legs at all  - I've used lower part of female NPC and change the legs to match small existing parts of Aloy legs mesh and to match tight-fitting pants from one of the Aloy's models. So by my approximation Aloy legs was almost exactly this thick in original model for HFW (which is existing only in game source files somewhere on Sony's servers).

 

@Samus01 If you want flatter chest - There is a possibility that other body shapes for my HC Aloy will appear later, then modding tools will be more mature. But for now I'll stick with my HC Aloy "Vanilla" version.

 

Edited July 10, 2025 by hornycopter

[CrypticWonders]

Have you ever seen this model? Horizon Zero Dawn - Aloy Nude by Crazy31139 on DeviantArt

They seem to claim in their description that it is the character model ripped from Horizon Zero Dawn, and then converted into usable files for different modeling programs

 

Would something like that help with the lower half sculpting since her lower half does not exist in Forbidden West?

[hornycopter]

8 hours ago, CrypticWonders said:

Would something like that help with the lower half sculpting since her lower half does not exist in Forbidden West?

Seems like it's "barbie doll" down there, same as my starting models. So that's the point? Still gonna need to add missing parts.
Edit: Yep, checked model by Crazy31139 - it's "barbie doll".

Also it's only claims that "This model and textures are the property of Guerrilla Games" - but model itself could be recreated from NPCs parts same way as I did it, then sculpted little bit by creator for Aloy likeness, same way as I did. Or, most likely,  that standard text is only for unedited head and hair model and body models is just some generic one. This Crazy31139 model also uses different UVs than HFW models - and it will be massive pain in the ass to make it work with new HFW skin shader and textures.

Edit: Checked model by Crazy31139 - it has belly button in different place than original HZD outfits and different topology to it, so it confirms my theory. My guess - only hands are from original Aloy, everything else - just generic base body model.
If author ever claimed anywhere that his model is THE original Aloy body - that's looks like bunch of bullshit to me. 💩

 

As far as I know - there was no "full" Aloy body model in HZD either. I think there was even less parts of "true" Aloy's body available in HZD, because HZD outfits is less revealing than HFW ones. That's why I think every single nude mod for HZD swaped Aloy body to full entirely different body model.

Overall that train is far gone anyways. I'm already half finished with my model and don't need anything else. 🗿
My model now has three times more poligons for torso - for smother body lines on closeups (and for future more curvy body types maybe).
Overall It has now twice the poligons of my starting model - and twice the poligons of HZD model from link above. 😎

Edited July 10, 2025 by hornycopter

[Samus01]

@hornycopter

 

Smaller, not flatter.^^ But yes,...that would be really nice.

 

 

[hornycopter]

23 hours ago, CrypticWonders said:

Also anyone know how accurate the Zero dawn mods were to her actual body?

I believe all of them use absolutely new body models (except maybe for the hands). Just few of them tried to sculpt their body models to be more similar to original Aloy (more details in my previous post).

 

23 hours ago, CrypticWonders said:

If Zero Dawn is more accurate than this would it be possible to port her body from Zero Dawn into Forbidden West for more body accuracy?

So no, I believe HFW mods actually have more potential to represent "real" Aloy, than HZD mods ever were able to.

Edited July 10, 2025 by hornycopter

[LaSalsa]

10 hours ago, hornycopter said:

For example - Her "rope bra" in original "Tenakth Recon" outfit is several sizes bigger than her breast underneath (their shape also is kinda mangled) - there was a gap and bra was mostly filled with "air" - that's why "peek-through" bra screenshots were possible in first place and breast mesh visibility didn't cut off right away at same time as the bra itself.

 

 

Not at all the point but I really like this screenshot lol