am I the only one a little off put by the latest pack?

[Kawaii1993]

I've noticed in CAS theres fetish wear included in the lastest pack. while I get it it's a romance pack. Idk how to feel about it. 

like it or not ea is currently right now trying to target a younger demographic I am not sure how to feel about this. I feel like in my opinion, if your actively trying to market to younger potentially underage simmers, you need to be careful about what you include in the pack. this isn't to say I am not against fetish wear in the game, I mean after all I am commenting on a forum where we mod the game to be lewd, but the thing is I am adult, we're adults, we're old enough to make decisions for ourselves. I feel like you know mods exist for that kind of reason. 

 

am I wrong for thinking this? I need some feed back. 

[SilentAegis]

Considering sex in the game is still very kid friendly, no, I don't agree this is something to be worried about. Frankly, I approve of them trying to be a little less kid friendly. It was getting old. 

[FauxFurry]

No. You can find others who feel similarly in the comments section of the Steam version of the game. Just do not expect any of the harsher criticism to remain for very long.

[parzysty]

They're grooming kids at this point.

[porkybork]

I have no interest in buying this pack ($40 for some stuff and an updated UI?), but I decided to check out the new CAS items. Most of it is the usual trendy stuff that gets added to new packs with a few goofier items thrown in here and there. Some items are more risque, but not only are they in the minority, they're still pretty in-line with what's been included in the series. Keep in mind that this is the same series that used to have the maids dress up in sexy French maid outfits, let you hire "entertainers" that pop-out of giant cakes during parties, and let you hire "party dancers" for bachelor(ette) parties.

 

As for "actively trying to market to younger potentially underage simmers", I don't even see that being the case. The trailers feel like they're more aimed at older zoomers on Tik Tok than little kids. Considering the player base for TS4 is largely made up of young adult women (age 18-24), that seems a lot more likely. Plus, it's rated T. T-rated games can get away with their characters running around in their undies and wearing goofy costumes. If people are that worried about their kids, don't let them play the game. 🤷‍♂️

 

Blasts from the past:

Spoiler

Risque stuff:

Spoiler

 

17 hours ago, Quiet5899 said:

them LGBTQ folks can do anything.

 

3 hours ago, parzysty said:

They're grooming kids at this point.

[yveltalkyogre]

you are not the only one

[SticksStackStuck]

I for one quite appreciate the somewhat more raunchy style of this pack. Then again, as an European I'm not overly concerned over children learning there's no storks involved in the first place.

[Khlas]

American so hypocrit they make children learn how to use guns once they barely know how to walk, but if there’s like one eggplant funny costume in a teen rated video game they’re making a poor trolling thread in a highly nsfw forum and it’s PrOtEcT OuR ChIlDrEn all over. 

 

i don’t know if it’s peek comedy or just being dumb 

 

also that guy that had to be biggot while it’s absolutely out of subject just reminded me that this forum is full of trash people with absolutely no shame in looking like idiots. one of the reason I’m not as active as I used to be there until the moderation kick all them out. Nobody care about their trash opinion.

Edited August 8, 2024 by Khlas

[Guest]

I took a look through the CAS items the pack adds, uhm, you're on LL and are complaining about PG-13 stuff mate, while your mod folder is full of actually NSFW stuff, soooooo

[Yakis0ba1]

I totally get it, there's a difference between you adding stuff and them doing it.

But I'd say it's fine. Honestly, I was most "wait, what?" about that first pic with the girl in the mask, but then I looked at it again and realized it's really more of a Valentine's-themed Luchador outfit then a... bondage thingy.

 

That tuxedo underwear should be banned, but that's just because it's so incredibly tacky. Blurgh.

[mongoose415]

On 8/5/2024 at 5:07 PM, parzysty said:

They're grooming kids at this point.

We get it, you're pissed that you think they're doing what you want to do.

[Gambit]

On 8/6/2024 at 6:32 AM, PrinceCaeli said:

 

All of the pedos I knew growing up were straight white men.

 

There's non "white/straight/male" pedo too. I "assure" you.

 

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The clothes doesn't look so great... and very uninspired (and not only the "sexy" ones displayed here). If women clothes are okayish, for the men... at best they looks like recolors of previous ones, at worst it's more a goophy representation of the some fetichism...

 

It seems there a general rule in sims4 additional contents : if there's new gameplay mechanism then CC or Build contents are poor.

Edited August 10, 2024 by Gambit

[PrinceCaeli]

2 hours ago, Gambit said:

 

There's non "white/straight/male" pedo too. I "assure" you.

Trust me, baby. I grew up female. I know full well that there are non "white/straight/male" pedos.  All was overemphatic, I will admit.  I will rephrase to say MOST of the pedos I knew growing up were white straight men. 

[jankass239]

On 8/9/2024 at 6:00 PM, mongoose415 said:

We get it, you're pissed that you think they're doing what you want to do.

what do you even mean by that lmao

[porkybork]

5 hours ago, noobiexdress said:

all the sources listed in this article are around 30 years old, or even older, don't you think that this data might be a little bit outdated and also biased due to the extremely systemic homophobia that was present at that time and even more prevalent than nowadays with our current understanding of sexuality, as well as actually contemporary more accurate ways of measuring such data?

 

21 hours ago, PrinceCaeli said:

I am having a very difficult time finding the research supporting this. I am happy to listen, but would you be able to cite your sources? Because when I went through the data myself, considering a lot of factors, the number I came up with still puts heterosexual men at double the rate of homosexual men per capita in the US (.8% vs .4%).  Of course this is based on the 900,000 registered sex offenders in the US and does not remove non-pedophilia related sex crimes so I don't have a finite number. The state with the most registered sex offenders per capita is Oregon, and per 100k people they have 679 (.679%) so the numbers are obviously higher because non-pedophilia crimes are included. However the data removed females entirely, since homosexual men are in question here.

The guy you're replying to is arguing in bad faith, so trying to respond in a meaningful way is a waste of time. Also, they've had a profile since last year but are just now posting comments in a thread so they can paint gay people as groomers while using outdated and fallacious info.

 

If anyone's interested in info that's actually reliable, here are three different sources that touch on different aspects of this topic.

 

Facts on Child Sexual Abuse by the US Sentencing Commission

• Brief overview of demographic data based on race, age, and geographical data

Male Homosexuality, Science, and Pedophilia

• Short article by James M. Cantor, PhD highlighting issues on reported studies, data acquisition, sampling, and inconsistent terminology.
• Touches on the political aspect (US-centric).
• Highlights failure to separate groups based on attraction to sex/gender vs attraction to age group.

Facts About Homosexuality and Child Molestation

• Provides a more in-depth look on the topic.
• Highlights issues in malicious stereotyping, lack of probability samples, terminology, categorical errors, and fallacious assumptions in research.
• Includes a meta-analysis of prior research on the topic.
• "The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual orientation at all; they are fixated on children."

Either way, this thread has turned into a fucking dumpster fire, and I don't blame the OP for that. I'm gonna dip out now. Peace, bitches.☮️

Edited August 16, 2024 by porkybork

[SticksStackStuck]

On 8/16/2024 at 12:32 AM, porkybork said:

 

• "The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual orientation at all; they are fixated on children."

 

Interesting stuff here. I had a chance to talk to a sexologist treating men with paedophilia here the other day. Like most, I was in the "they probably can't really help themselves, let's just castrate them chemically and be done with it"-camp. The sexologist told me that won't really work. The people she was dealing with had extremely low testosterone levels in the first place. Most of them had testosterone levels below the female average, and bad health on top of that.

 

The other thing she told me (well, I sort of knew that one from before) is that we have a vert skewed view of whom the paedophilies are. The people she was treating was the one getting caught. This means they did not have the means to escape detection and sentencing, and all her patients had intelligence and impulse control below average. Some of them were bordering on retarded.

 

Our view of what make some people being overrepresented in national statistics is just as much a result of who get's away. If we assume most paedophiles are straight white men, straight white men are more likely to be suspected and caught. From statistics alone, we would expect paedophilia to correlate with being male, of European decent and with reduced mental stature. In science we call this sampling error. For all we know, there's some actually smart paedophiles out there, too smart or resourceful to end up part of the statistics. 

Edited August 23, 2024 by SticksStackStuck

[BearyBry]

Given that sex is out there in all forms of media and advertising, children are being exposed to it at younger ages, for example a study in the UK found that under-18s were viewing pornography at some startingly young ages (10% by age 9, 27% by age 11, 50% by age 13) and because of this it will warp what some people will think sex is.  Depending on where you grow up, access to information and education on sex and relationships will vary greatly, but there are very few places that will teach it well to show that sex is often a part of a health, happy relationship between consenting adults, so sometimes all young people will have access to is what they see online and won't comprehend the fact that it's not real and is just a fantasy.  All this of course isn't helped when there are some out there that try to demonise sex and pretend it is something filthy and disgusting, attaching shame and judgement to it.

 

Trying to demonstrate how to build healthier, happier relationships with a loving partner, who allows for mutual experimentation and sharing of pleasure as well as the fun of sex when with the right person is an important distinction to make.  I'm not saying Lovestruck will single-handedly change things, but it does show a side of adult relationships in a way that should be fun (aside from all the bugs, glitches, crashes, etc (it is a Sims 4 EP after all)).  It's a pity they've not really done much to explore asexuality or polyamory (with actual thruples) as part of it, though that is of course asking too much.

 

Personally, I'm holding off buying Lovestruck until its in a sale with at least 25% off, as there doesn't seem to be much new content in the pack (it really is a game pack with an expansion price tag) whilst the world suffers from the same issues all the new ones do, it's pretty but also pretty empty with too much set dressing and nothing else.

 

Anyways, that's just my rambling thoughts.

[Gambit]

On 8/23/2024 at 5:52 AM, BearyBry said:

Trying to demonstrate how to build healthier, happier relationships with a loving partner, who allows for mutual experimentation and sharing of pleasure as well as the fun of sex when with the right person is an important distinction to make...

 

 

I don't think EA stance was to teach kids how adults wear clothes for a romantic relationship. It's just a cliché, gooffy and cheap "clin d'oeil"

 

[Pamatronic]

On 8/5/2024 at 8:55 AM, Kawaii1993 said:

We're adults

I don't think this applies to the wider simmers population here on LL...

[Miauzi]

 

Am 09.08.2024 um 00:40 Uhr sagte Khlas:

Die Amerikaner sind so heuchlerisch, dass sie Kinder dazu bringen, den Umgang mit Waffen zu erlernen, sobald sie kaum noch laufen können, aber wenn es in einem für Teenager bewerteten Videospiel nur ein lustiges Auberginenkostüm gibt, machen sie einen schlechten Trolling-Thread in einem hochgradig NSFW-Forum und es heißt PROtEcT Our Überall Kinder. 

 

Ich weiß nicht, ob es eine Peek-Comedy ist oder einfach nur Dummheit 

 

Auch dieser Typ, der großmütig sein musste, obwohl es absolut nicht zum Thema gehört, hat mich nur daran erinnert, dass dieses Forum voller Müllleute ist, die sich absolut nicht schämen, wie Idioten auszusehen. Einer der Gründe, warum ich dort nicht mehr so aktiv bin wie früher, bis die Moderation sie alle rausschmeißt. Niemand kümmert sich um ihre Müllmeinung.

 

Unfortunately, it has long been NOT limited to the "Americans" aka citizens of the USA - it has also long since arrived in Western Europe (those in the East have always been completely crazy when it comes to "sexual morality")

 

12 years ago a large private broadcaster had a "great" idea -> we call on "celebrities" to dress a BARBIE doll according to their ideas ... and then we auction it off at the end of the year for "a good cause"

 

Fate sometimes takes very strange paths and so it happened that a small fashion studio - which I worked for at the time - was asked -> to quickly dress a BARBIE within 12 hours

"You have complete freedom - the main thing is that we can hand over the doll tomorrow morning at 9 a.m. Please ... PLEASE! ... Save our ass!"

 

4 young fashion designers then "put in the effort" overnight ... and the following came out:

Spoiler

 

As a hint - what material is latex - every part was cut and glued ... the outfit is therefore completely removable - in other words, the BARBIE is neither painted nor covered with it!

 

Why does the "Queen of the Night" wear a mask? -> Because her "smile" doesn't match this dominant outfit!

 

What happened to the collected dolls? -> They were exhibited in the toy department of the KDW ("Kaufhaus des Westens" - basically the luxury department store in Berlin).

 

As the entire production took place overnight and I was a "home worker" at the time - I naturally wanted to see the original doll ... so I went to the KDW.

 

All the dolls were then in a large glass display case - of course I recognized "our" Barbie immediately ... but she no longer had a mask on.

 

Of course I asked one of the saleswomen - her answer was: "A mask like that on a Barbie doll - we don't want to scare the children!"

 

Oh, scare the children? Meanwhile, 10 meters away, a photo shoot with a "Spiderman" was taking place.

 

What exactly is that supposed to mean? Even children of this age know characters like Bad Girl or other "heroines"/"villains" who wear a mask!

 

---

 

What happened to "our" doll? ... In any case, it was NOT put up for auction on TV!

The channel had a 20% audience share with the show at the time, with a population of 80 million in our country - so it was not a local niche event!

But of course there were plenty of action films in the evening program.

 

 

 

 

[Faolon]

On 8/8/2024 at 3:40 PM, Khlas said:

American so hypocrit they make children learn how to use guns once they barely know how to walk, but if there’s like one eggplant funny costume in a teen rated video game they’re making a poor trolling thread in a highly nsfw forum and it’s PrOtEcT OuR ChIlDrEn all over. 

 

i don’t know if it’s peek comedy or just being dumb 

 

also that guy that had to be biggot while it’s absolutely out of subject just reminded me that this forum is full of trash people with absolutely no shame in looking like idiots. one of the reason I’m not as active as I used to be there until the moderation kick all them out. Nobody care about their trash opinion.

 

 

You really need to stop believing everything they tell you on TV.

 

The only people teaching kids how to use guns are hicks that live in the middle of nowhere and those kids need to be able to shoot wolves, boars, bears, and shit that come near their farms. The closest 99% of this country's children come to guns is Fortnite.

 

And there's a difference between inuendo, which requires knowing about something, and outright sexualization. Just like there's a difference between teaching children that homosexuality is a thing and walking down the middle of the street wearing a leather dog mask, collar, leather harness, thong, combat boots, and nothing else.

 

I know it may be hard for you to believe, considering you're not from here and will only ever hear biased information, but here in the US there ARE pedophiles using the LGBT community to hide behind. It's one of the most infuriating things currently happening in the US. These people go on social media, create videos of themselves bragging about the stuff they do, then when they get called out the media claims it's an attack on all LGBT people. They even start attacking the people calling the pedos out.

 

Are there morons who think simply being gay is the same as being a pedo? Yes. And all those idiots end up doing is help the pedophiles hide. It would, however, be foolish to generalize everyone who calls out a pedo as a homophobe. Just because a boy falsely cried wolf in the next village over, doesn't mean the boy crying wolf in your village is also lying.

[Faolon]

On 8/10/2024 at 6:51 PM, PrinceCaeli said:

Trust me, baby. I grew up female. I know full well that there are non "white/straight/male" pedos.  All was overemphatic, I will admit.  I will rephrase to say MOST of the pedos I knew growing up were white straight men. 

 

 

I think a lot of that has to do with how society views certain things as negative when done by one sex and not by the other.

As a man, I often find myself thinking back and realizing I received a lot of comments that would be deemed entirely inappropriate had the genders been reversed. I mean, think about how often you hear about a guy losing his virginity to a grown woman. We don't really think much of it as a society, but if we reversed the genders, it would be viewed as a massive problem.

 

Women-are-wonderful effect - Wikipedia

[SilentAegis]

37 minutes ago, Faolon said:

You really need to stop believing everything they tell you on TV.

 

The only people teaching kids how to use guns are hicks that live in the middle of nowhere and those kids need to be able to shoot wolves, boars, bears, and shit that come near their farms. The closest 99% of this country's children come to guns is Fortnite.

 

This. I don't know why Americans had to be thrown under the bus, there's no evidence I've found that OP is even American and guns are one of, if not the most heavily debated topics in the country. They're not all some kind of gun-crazy hick, that's a substantially small amount of people, just like the people who think Lovestruck's raunchy theme is an issue. 

 

Seems hypocritical (and wildly illogical) to me to complain about bigotry, but then paint everyone in a nationality as hypocritical and gun crazy. 

 

"I don't know if it's peak comedy or just being dumb."

Edited August 26, 2024 by SilentAegis

[mynewusername]

  

31 minutes ago, Faolon said:

 

We don't really think much of it as a society, but if we reversed the genders, it would be viewed as a massive problem.

 

Women-are-wonderful effect - Wikipedia

 

the only thing that matters about what people believe is whether it helps their society survive. whether it is true or not doesn't matter. if people throughout history have widely believed a thing, it is because it has helped their society continue existing. if a society believes a thing, but it does not help their society continue, then they die, the truth does not save them.

 

so if their people believe their emperor is a god and that they must kill you in his name, and you believe that leaders are just people and have no special right to tell you what to do, they kill you and you stop existing, and belief in god-emperor wins.

 

so if society has believed in gender roles and differences for thousands of years of history, it is because this believe makes society go. it does not matter whether it is right or true.

Edited August 26, 2024 by mynewusername

[Gambit]

The Sims 4 Lovestruck Items: Complete CAS and Build Variants Overview

 

Is Sims 4 for Children: What Parents Need to Know

 

I don't think Lovestruck make Sims4 less kids friendly as it is already. It depends largely on how you want teach your kids about adult matters.

But certainly the last addons brings its share of kinky cloth play.