awesomeSPAS Posted August 17, 2024 Author Posted August 17, 2024 (edited) 4 hours ago, jobkeks said: thanks, will try the new LCC_AM. heres mine LCC_AM.0.log 619 B · 0 downloads "Actors Array was empty" means properties did not fill by the game. Such annoying issue of game engine... Saw it happening when you start mod with some dependencies missing. Then even when you install all dependencies quest properties already not filled for initialized quest. So in this case likely only clean save works (game save before mod was installed and launched). Right way: Install Mod AND All dependencies, only then start the game using "clean" save. Interestingly enough adding new properties to quests that properly initialized does work. That's why mod authors can release updates and you can install them over existing saves. However mod authors cant change properties that filled in previous versions, because game engine consider them filled already. So if they are not filled properly mod authors have to overwrite them manually in scripts in new versions. Which kind of diminished the whole value of using properties in first place.... Edited August 17, 2024 by awesomeSPAS 1
deathmorph Posted August 17, 2024 Posted August 17, 2024 Interesting concept. Installed straight away while the game is running (hope there are no problems because I didn't start over). I'm curious. 1
jobkeks Posted August 17, 2024 Posted August 17, 2024 (edited) 8 hours ago, awesomeSPAS said: "Actors Array was empty" means properties did not fill by the game. Such annoying issue of game engine... Saw it happening when you start mod with some dependencies missing. Then even when you install all dependencies quest properties already not filled for initialized quest. So in this case likely only clean save works (game save before mod was installed and launched). Right way: Install Mod AND All dependencies, only then start the game using "clean" save. Interestingly enough adding new properties to quests that properly initialized does work. That's why mod authors can release updates and you can install them over existing saves. However mod authors cant change properties that filled in previous versions, because game engine consider them filled already. So if they are not filled properly mod authors have to overwrite them manually in scripts in new versions. Which kind of diminished the whole value of using properties in first place.... thanks for trying to help, i did install all of the required and then started a new game. so no old save games being used(rip old saved game). that being said the only thing that doesn't seem to work currently is the going to sleep on a bed for more then 6 hrs (abduction sequence) everything else is working > collar, skill tree, daydreaming and sudden events, exp from LCC equip removal, skill points cleared out the script/user fills for this new playthru Spoiler LCC_AM 0 [08/18/2024 - 07:25:55AM] ABDUCTION STARTED: 1 [08/18/2024 - 07:25:55AM] Actors Array was empty [08/18/2024 - 07:26:01AM] Cleared AAF_API.AAF_ActorLocked flag from Player perhaps the only thing that is unique in my playthru is that i'm using Spoiler using the >>same sex couples and LGBT families mod<< >> https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/25254 does that alter the player array values somehow? still using slm 14 to change looks maybe removing that mod will clear things up? probably will give it a go not sure what is causing that issue if that still doesnt do it then, kinda stumped 😅 Update (new play thru) >> so i removed the mod (same sex couples and LGBT families) and now the abduction dream events happen. guess that mod alters the player char values, since there are 2 of the same type of characters? additionally i also downgraded to LCC1.23. not sure if that helps too. will update to LCC1.24 and try it out. Edited August 18, 2024 by jobkeks 1
deathmorph Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 (edited) The collar triggers the collar quest from SH. But without the shock elements. I assume that this is not intended. PS: The first task was that there should be no sex for 48 hours. And there was also something about Mirelurks. The second task was then added through sex because of the SH address. It was about having sex at least 4 times. Also, dogs were not mentioned this time. English is not my native language, so I'm asking what the Mirelurks and then the dogs were all about. PPS: How does the mod actually distinguish between rape and not? If my character has to surrender via Violate and then has sex, sometimes it is considered rape, sometimes not. I still don't understand it. PPPS: Sorry for a lot of text here. But I don't want to spam the thread with lots of individual posts. My character probably had the touch of a dream now. The color changed to black and white, then went back to normal and she was standing naked next to her bed. What information do you need? Except that I play with Old Gen... Is it possible that the mod is not compatible with Flashy's AN2? If my character has toxic shock syndrome, for example, then it can no longer be cured by sleeping. My character also wakes up briefly in black and white, falls through the floor and immediately comes back in normal color. No dream. That would be a shame. PPPPS: I'll test it with a new game and let you know. Edited August 18, 2024 by deathmorph
spicydoritos Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 (edited) On 8/17/2024 at 2:54 PM, awesomeSPAS said: However mod authors cant change properties that filled in previous versions, because game engine consider them filled already. So if they are not filled properly mod authors have to overwrite them manually in scripts in new versions. Which kind of diminished the whole value of using properties in first place.... You can force the engine to fill from the plugin's script property value instead of save data by labeling the property "const". I'd call it mandatory for array properties, because otherwise any new additions to the plugin's array won't be reflected in game. Example: Perk[] property PVPK_AllPerks auto const Edited August 18, 2024 by spicydoritos spelling 1
deathmorph Posted August 18, 2024 Posted August 18, 2024 On 5/24/2024 at 7:37 AM, awesomeSPAS said: So you did not find the injector? Its very simple code, so its just "add item" no matter what, so if you did not get it i need to think what game does in the vault. In any other scenarious i tested i had no problems with this ever In the new game I got the message when creating the character. However, when I left the cryo chamber I couldn't find an injector and there wasn't one in my inventory either.
awesomeSPAS Posted August 19, 2024 Author Posted August 19, 2024 On 8/17/2024 at 7:22 PM, deathmorph said: The collar triggers the collar quest from SH. But without the shock elements. I assume that this is not intended. PS: The first task was that there should be no sex for 48 hours. And there was also something about Mirelurks. The second task was then added through sex because of the SH address. It was about having sex at least 4 times. Also, dogs were not mentioned this time. English is not my native language, so I'm asking what the Mirelurks and then the dogs were all about. PPS: How does the mod actually distinguish between rape and not? If my character has to surrender via Violate and then has sex, sometimes it is considered rape, sometimes not. I still don't understand it. PPPS: Sorry for a lot of text here. But I don't want to spam the thread with lots of individual posts. My character probably had the touch of a dream now. The color changed to black and white, then went back to normal and she was standing naked next to her bed. What information do you need? Except that I play with Old Gen... Is it possible that the mod is not compatible with Flashy's AN2? If my character has toxic shock syndrome, for example, then it can no longer be cured by sleeping. My character also wakes up briefly in black and white, falls through the floor and immediately comes back in normal color. No dream. That would be a shame. PPPPS: I'll test it with a new game and let you know. Can you check LCC_AM log in user folder.
deathmorph Posted August 19, 2024 Posted August 19, 2024 (edited) Just tested it again at the same point in the old game. Here are the logs. It turns black and white, then colorful again, then the lady is standing there. Dressed this time. AN2's immunodeficiency didn't happen this time because it was based on chance. Oh, I just see that the shock collar thing is described in the introduction. Sorry. By the way, my character gets pregnant while sleeping. Is that perhaps related to the interruption of the dream? The second AM0 had the black and white phase again, then it went down a meter, then up again and the color came back. Okay, and in the third one I went back a bit. My character isn't pregnant. Still not a dream, just a short b/w. LCC_AM.0.logLCC_AM.0.logLCC_AM.0.log Edited August 19, 2024 by deathmorph
awesomeSPAS Posted August 19, 2024 Author Posted August 19, 2024 On 8/17/2024 at 7:22 PM, deathmorph said: The collar triggers the collar quest from SH. But without the shock elements. I assume that this is not intended. It is intended. I had to compromise on something to integrate with SH, so no shocking at the first scene. 1
awesomeSPAS Posted August 19, 2024 Author Posted August 19, 2024 On 8/17/2024 at 7:22 PM, deathmorph said: PPS: How does the mod actually distinguish between rape and not? If my character has to surrender via Violate and then has sex, sometimes it is considered rape, sometimes not. I still don't understand it. Violate is actually marking scenes as NOT RAPE, once you submit. So you can have first 1 or few scenes as rape and all other scenes will be NOT rape. This mod listens AAF metadata and treat this accordingly 1
awesomeSPAS Posted August 19, 2024 Author Posted August 19, 2024 On 8/17/2024 at 7:22 PM, deathmorph said: I'm asking what the Mirelurks and then the dogs were all about. If you use INFO button you will see more description of current state. Set it up in MCM. Cursed Devices do attract some creatures, each item tells you what it attracts. When nearby those creatures player will be sexually attacked by them. It has some cooldown after each attack 1
awesomeSPAS Posted August 19, 2024 Author Posted August 19, 2024 On 8/17/2024 at 7:22 PM, deathmorph said: My character probably had the touch of a dream now. The color changed to black and white, then went back to normal and she was standing naked next to her bed. What information do you need? Except that I play with Old Gen... Is it possible that the mod is not compatible with Flashy's AN2? If my character has toxic shock syndrome, for example, then it can no longer be cured by sleeping. My character also wakes up briefly in black and white, falls through the floor and immediately comes back in normal color. No dream. That would be a shame. It means dream failed to start. AN2 should be ok, so it is something else. LCC_AM log tells why 1
awesomeSPAS Posted August 19, 2024 Author Posted August 19, 2024 (edited) On 8/17/2024 at 8:20 PM, spicydoritos said: You can force the engine to fill from the plugin's script property value instead of save data by labeling the property "const". I'd call it mandatory for array properties, because otherwise any new additions to the plugin's array won't be reflected in game. Example: Perk[] property PVPK_AllPerks auto const This is great advice. You know if it has effect if changed on running script? Edited August 19, 2024 by awesomeSPAS
awesomeSPAS Posted August 19, 2024 Author Posted August 19, 2024 (edited) 6 hours ago, deathmorph said: By the way, my character gets pregnant while sleeping. Is that perhaps related to the interruption of the dream? This is by design. For those who don't want this: can change complexity to "easy" in MCM. Although for true experience i highly recommend "Challenging" complexity - it will be very different gameplay since player cannot orgasm (except rape), so you will really need to develop skill tree However if dream failed to start player cant get pregnant! Pregnancy from some earlier events then Edited August 19, 2024 by awesomeSPAS 1
awesomeSPAS Posted August 19, 2024 Author Posted August 19, 2024 (edited) 14 hours ago, deathmorph said: Okay, and in the third one I went back a bit. new patch is on page 18 Edited August 20, 2024 by awesomeSPAS 1
deathmorph Posted August 19, 2024 Posted August 19, 2024 33 minutes ago, awesomeSPAS said: Violate is actually marking scenes as NOT RAPE, once you submit. So you can have first 1 or few scenes as rape and all other scenes will be NOT rape. This mod listens AAF metadata and treat this accordingly Okay, logically it could be related to extremely sub. 23 minutes ago, awesomeSPAS said: This is by design. For those who don't want this: can change complexity to "easy" in MCM. Although for true experience i highly recommend "Challenging" complexity - it will be very different gameplay since player cannot orgasm (except rape), so you will really need to develop skill tree However if dream failed to start player cant get pregnant! Pregnancy from some earlier events then I have the standard settings active. Except: don't wash is inactive because I use get dirty. I also deactivated the shock collar for now, so I can get to know the mod better. I will use Challenging in the next run 11 minutes ago, awesomeSPAS said: Again same error: Actors Array was empty... This happens if array with actors was not initiated by the game engine.... This should not be happening but it is... Attached is script with change spicydoritos suggested, please try and see if it fixes Which attachment? Are you still attaching it? Or do you mean something else? (sorry, english is not my native language)
deathmorph Posted August 19, 2024 Posted August 19, 2024 31 minutes ago, awesomeSPAS said: However if dream failed to start player cant get pregnant! Pregnancy from some earlier events then That's probably true, my character had recently been visited by a larger Enclave squad and was no longer able to escape.
awesomeSPAS Posted August 19, 2024 Author Posted August 19, 2024 19 minutes ago, deathmorph said: Okay, logically it could be related to extremely sub. I have the standard settings active. Except: don't wash is inactive because I use get dirty. I also deactivated the shock collar for now, so I can get to know the mod better. I will use Challenging in the next run Which attachment? Are you still attaching it? Or do you mean something else? (sorry, english is not my native language) I am curious if patch worked, if yes this will be then recommended for everyone
awesomeSPAS Posted August 19, 2024 Author Posted August 19, 2024 (edited) On 8/18/2024 at 2:17 PM, deathmorph said: In the new game I got the message when creating the character. However, when I left the cryo chamber I couldn't find an injector and there wasn't one in my inventory either. People were saying game may do something with inventory while you are in 111 first mission. So currently you get first injector some time outside of Vault 111 Current logic to get first free injector: LCC should be ON Orgasm Block should be ON You are not wearing cursed collar or Game Complexity is Challenging+ You will get it when you load the game while outside the vault 111. Edited August 19, 2024 by awesomeSPAS
deathmorph Posted August 19, 2024 Posted August 19, 2024 13 minutes ago, awesomeSPAS said: I am curious if patch worked, if yes this will be then recommended for everyone Vortex says that the first patch has become redundant and will be deactivated? Now the main mod and patch 2 are on, that's right, right? After the installation I got this message. I followed the installation instructions and installed all the required mods. I'm currently reinstalling from a clean save. I'll let you know if it worked.
deathmorph Posted August 19, 2024 Posted August 19, 2024 15 minutes ago, awesomeSPAS said: People were saying game may do something with inventory while you are in 111 first mission. So currently you get first injector some time outside of Vault 111 Okay, then I was too impatient. I didn't get anything until Concord.
awesomeSPAS Posted August 19, 2024 Author Posted August 19, 2024 8 minutes ago, deathmorph said: Vortex says that the first patch has become redundant and will be deactivated? Now the main mod and patch 2 are on, that's right, right? After the installation I got this message. I followed the installation instructions and installed all the required mods. I'm currently reinstalling from a clean save. I'll let you know if it worked. It means patch did not fix it, actor array property is still empty. I need to think how to prevent that... But clean save should work
awesomeSPAS Posted August 19, 2024 Author Posted August 19, 2024 Just now, awesomeSPAS said: Vortex says that the first patch has become redundant and will be deactivated? Now the main mod and patch 2 are on, that's right, right? yes second patch includes first patch. But looks like it is irrelevant since it did not fix it for you
deathmorph Posted August 19, 2024 Posted August 19, 2024 (edited) 15 minutes ago, awesomeSPAS said: It means patch did not fix it, actor array property is still empty. I need to think how to prevent that... But clean save should work Yes, unfortunately it didn't work. After reinstalling from the clean save, the same error message appears. PS: I checked again, here is the overview. Yellow is installed, red is not. Spoiler I'm going to go to sleep now, work starts in 5 hours. Thank you for caring so intensively about this! Edited August 19, 2024 by deathmorph
Rimworld Traveller Posted August 19, 2024 Posted August 19, 2024 I've started lots of new games (I play permadeath) and have never been given an injector. Until now; I just killed Kellogg and one entered my inventory with a pop-up. I was able to use the skill tree for the first time!
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