[Need Help] My game isn't passing loading screen when i enter some Cities

[Zaselim]

Hello everyone, 

I am having this issue for a while know. When i enter Solitude, Windhelm, Riverwood and Morkah/Morthal(don't remember the exact name) the game won't past the loading screen. When i Use the coc console command to enter any of the house/shop/building in these cites, it loads perfectly but when i exit that building location to the city the game won't past the loading screen. In simple, I can't get to these cities, I also tried flying but the game either crashes or hangs when I get close(very close to the wall of the city) to any of these cities.

In Whiterun my games crashes when I go to blacksmith forge(the one is located on the top level, not recalling the name, The one related to the werewolves). I will be really grateful for the help.

 

My plugin list is

 

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Falskaar.esm

JSwords.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

AP Skyrim.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

EASamhair.esm

RaceCompatibility.esm

ApachiiHairMales.esm

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

UndergroundBathhouse.esm

XFLMain.esm

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

GeneralStores.esm

SexLab.esm

DSLight.esm

TERAArmors.esm

hdtHighHeel.esm

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

OBlHairFinal.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

Gatti12Jewelry.esp

Gatti14Yumiko.esp

GattiQBCollection.esp

Gizmodian-Obliviweapons.esp

Hentai_mixed_Armor.esp

HentaiVoidArmor.esp

HentaisJamellaArmor.esp

Neo's Oriental Dress.esp

Remodeled Armor.esp

Siege Bow & Backpacks.esp

SkyHeels.esp

So Hot.esp

viciousdawnbreaker.esp

Werehide.esp

The Asteria - Dwemer Airship.esp

Vortai.esp

P1FlyingRing.esp

TriRoc Stripper Companion.esp

AP Skyrim.esp

LovelyHairstyles.esp

MTOH.esp

numenume Hair.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

OrientalRace.esp

TemptressVixen.esp

Sexier Housecarls.esp

Spousetocustomhome.esp

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp

GreenWaterFixForPureWaters.esp

GreenWaterFixForWATER.esp

Rindock EstateV2.0.esp

EASamhair.esp

AllFemaleSoldiers.esp

AllFemaleGuards.esp

massive2.esp

Armoury of Conan.esp

BerserkerSword.esp

Stormbringer.esp

Otrera.esp

Leeloo.esp

PLAYER WO.esp

Shrouded Lair.esp

SwordRagnarök.esp

ActionPoser.esp

AetheriumSwords.esp

Alduin Bikini Edited.esp

Alduin Bikini.esp

Amberhalls Heartwood Village.esp

Armor of Justice.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

Black Dragon Armor.esp

BlackHole.esp

BridgeView.esp

BTC.esp

Caius.esp

Corrupter TBBP.esp

DaedricsWing.esp

denize.esp

Doom Heavy Set.esp

DyradNeoOulanderFL1.esp

Ebony Craw Wizard Armor fixed.esp

Elculous.esp

Elves.esp

Faleria.esp

Fantasy Music Overhaul Redone.esp

Fantasy Music Overhaul.esp

FFBretonTristyn.esp

FNISspells.esp

Footprints.esp

Gatti12Jewelry-colored.esp

Gatti12JewelryVer15-colors.esp

Gatti12JewelryVer15.esp

Genom Races.esp

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

HF_Lakeview_North_Perimeter_Fence.esp

HF_Lakeview_Pool_and_Hotbath.esp

HousecarlBeauties.esp

LeiFangAndChristieByNausicaa.esp

LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp

MacKom_LoreStylesHairSet.esp

Maliki.esp

mayatola UFF.esp

NPC REDESIGN.esp

MBT_Skins.esp

Riften_Female.esp

Windleham_Female.esp

MK 9 Jade Armor.esp

winterhold_female.esp

modZeenamaya.esp

Neo's Outlander.esp

Neo's Scouter Set ver15.esp

Neo's Scouter Set.esp

NiaOutfitTBBP.esp

Noiral.esp

NPCPhotoBooth.esp

Ohmes.esp

Pupetteer Master.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

rcrnShaders.esp

Reaper's Witch of the Wild Outfit.esp

Review Studio.esp

SGHairPack01.esp

SGHairPack02.esp

SGHairPack03.esp

SGHairPack04.esp

SGHairPack05.esp

SGHairPack06.esp

ShootingStars.esp

SilverArmor.esp

SkyrimConfigMenu.esp

SlayerSet.esp

SlowMotionRing.esp

SMAIOMLA.esp

Sun Glasses OE.esp

SUNMagicArmor.esp

TERA Weapons.esp

TeraArmors-CBBEByNausicaa.esp

TeraArmors-Edited.esp

TeraArmors-Nausicaa-Colored.esp

TERAArmors.esp

TG.esp

The Ningheim.esp

ThunderBirdArmor.esp

Toad's Tera.esp

Tropical Skyrim -- Birds.esp

realrain.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

amk Border Lace Lingerie.esp

Angelic_Demonic.esp

Wet.esp

WetandCold.esp

WhiteElfEng1.2.esp

CraftablePantysCBBEv3M.esp

XFLDialogue.esp

XFLPlugins.esp

ZangetsuAllForms.esp

ZaZAnimationPackConfig.esp

ZGGB-R Armors.esp

zzTmBallGown.esp

_NewHair.esp

_zzCCCHairs.esp

_zzSimsHair.esp

_zzSimsHair2.esp

Pretty Combat Idles.esp

Pretty Female Idles.esp

Pretty Poses And Animations.esp

DramaticPoser.esp

EagleSword.esp

sextoys-calyps-2.esp

NewmNecklaces2.esp

silverfish - more brighter interiors.esp

silverfish.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp

Antennaria.esp

SkyrimURWL.esp

WATER.esp

nTr4nc3 - Whiterun Mansion.esp

VampireManor.esp

Extended Slider Colors.esp

WhiteElfRace_By_nTr4nc3.esp

Iridum Eyes NRT.esp

ZGGB-R Body.esp

BodyChange.esp

HousecarlWhiterun.esp

SexLabMatchMaker.esp

SexLab Romance.esp

Dread Knight Weapon Set.esp

FNIS_ecchi1_spells.esp

FNIS_ero1_spells.esp

Dynasty Armor.esp

Svs Collection Jewelry.esp

The Forbidden Love Cast.esp

SkyrimAcademy.esp

ElementalBlade(epicv).esp

SexAddict.esp

FantasyWeapons.esp

Skyrim Pose Collection.esp

dsmassarabluejeans.esp

SexLabZaZAnimations.esp

Facelight.esp

SkyUI.esp

ZGGB-T Armors.esp

zzGenitalia.esp

LakesideCabin -Dawnguard.esp

Elewin Pumps.esp

FlansEyesForSkrim.esp

mortenhairs.esp

CISanctuary3.0.esp

PrivateNeeds.esp

Northern Bathhouses.esp

Dragon Cliff Manor.esp

Real Clouds.esp

HillHouse.esp

FNIS_ero2_spells.esp

Aspen Manor.esp

TheWoods.esp

DMC Weapons.esp

ds_database.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp

prod80_CoT_patch.esp

Colorful_Magic.esp

Serana.esp

SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp

LinnRoom.esp

ZGGB-R2-U Armors.esp

Heeled Collection.esp

no sun damage vampires.esp

FS_UltimateAssortment.esp

CZHCAD.esp

CZHCAD_DG.esp

CZHCAD_HF.esp

Pinup Poser.esp

SNSDPoser1.esp

FNIS_engi1_spells.esp

Unique Grasses.esp

AnimalSex.esp

FireAndIceOverhaul.esp

Lovergirl Race DG.esp

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

Newhairpack.esp

Tongues.esp

 

 

 

[D_ManXX2]

Sounds to me like you are running out of memory before you have a chance of entering the city. if you keep stuck on an infinite loading screen. You have not mentioned your using enb boost. so if you are not using enb boost this will be good place to start.

 

if your game normally exceeds the 3.1 limit it will stay stuck on the loading screen. Enb boost tries to fix this.

 

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/38649

 

As to your crash in whiterun not sure what to say. other then i noticed this city behaves pretty badly when ever a mod adds new stuff too it.

 

Also your load order don't look right, you may need to reorder it, unofficial patch needs to be highest in your list.

[Guest Spikes]

What D_Man said, use Boss to give you an approximate mods order.

[Zaselim]

Sounds to me like you are running out of memory before you have a chance of entering the city. if you keep stuck on an infinite loading screen. You have not mentioned your using enb boost. so if you are not using enb boost this will be good place to start.

 

if your game normally exceeds the 3.1 limit it will stay stuck on the loading screen. Enb boost tries to fix this.

 

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/38649

 

As to your crash in whiterun not sure what to say. other then i noticed this city behaves pretty badly when ever a mod adds new stuff too it.

 

Also your load order don't look right, you may need to reorder it, unofficial patch needs to be highest in your list.

 I wanted to use enb boost but some told me that I have to disable my ENB mod, Is it true? Because I dont want to disable the ENB Mod i am using. 

Will enblocal.ini from enboost effect my current enb? and I am using enb manager so in that case i have to put the enblocal.ini in every enb folder i have installed in enb manager right?

[D_ManXX2]

what enb are you using ?? i am using somber enb and it works just fine with enb boost. just don't override all the files just the necessary once like the dll all other files can be kept intact also it should generate it's own enblocal etc.. once you start a the game.

[Zaselim]

ok i used the boos and using enboost but the infinite loading screen issue is not going away. All the other CTD issue are solved, I also enable the fps limiter in enblocal.ini.

[Lodakai]

You're running way too many mods without using the suggested tools to do it right.

You need a bashed patch.  

You need to run TESVEdit to view your conflicts, fantasy music overhaul probably isn't doing anything for you the way you have it set up.

You need to reduce the load on your texture memory. (things such as high quality maps can exacerbate the problem)

 

Read through the latest STEP project wiki http://wiki.step-project.com/STEP:2.2.7 until section 2.F to learn how to mod that heavily.

Until you learn the tools, you will always have this problem unfortunately.  Skyrim mods are not as plug and play as they seem.

 

You should try to only use the mods that you feel are absolutely necessary and ONLY add more later when your system seems stable past whiterun.

You can always add mods later in the game unless otherwise suggested by the author.  But any mods with scripts should not be removed once you saved with them installed. (unless you revert to a save without it).

 

Edit:  You're also running some pretty script intensive mods.  Wet and Cold paired with footsteps alone is going to put a heavy load on papyrus.

They are great mods with really cool effects.  But there is going to be a significant performance cost to your scripting capability in order to use them.

You will really need to keep an eye out for script latency.  IE.. clicking something taking too long to register.   Messages or actions having a noticeable lag to them.

[Zaselim]

lol I am using the mod i really want and the rest is un selected in manager, I have more than 400 mods in total.

I used boss then it told me to tesVedit and bash patch so i did it on the mods boss told me to.

I also removed the mods boss told me can cause ctd. I don't have any performance issue with the game, the game runs fine at 37-45 fps

 

Also using Enboost with fps limiter enabled. 

 

What if I use one of the high end gaming pc,(like I7 (4th gen), 16gigs of ram with gtx 780 2 way sli. will it solve the problem?

 

[Nshell]

Skyrim biggest problem is that it crashes after 3.1Gb Ram usage so do w/e you want just keep your skyrim under 2.8 Gb Ram or you will crash. (Yes Ram, System Ram, Not VRam)

a good thing to do is to purge unused textures that skyrim keeps mirroed in your Ram. you can do this by quick saving and quick loading. do this before you need to enter a new cell.

 

Lodakai already told you what to do and he is 100% right.

 

 

#Edit: having a quick look at your load order it looks very messy

 

example: GreenWaterFixForPureWaters.esp

 

why have you got this if you dont even have the plugin??

 

btw this mods GreenWaterFix are useless... this is fixed inside ENB controller.

 

Im not being rude im just saying you need to pay more attention to your skyrim pluggins or you will have a crash feast.

[DigitalVixen]

First things first: infinite loading screens is NOT hitting the 3.1 GB RAM usage limit! If you DO hit the 3.1 GB RAM usage limits your game will INSTANTLY crash to desktop. There is NO exceptions to this.

 

The problem here is that there are too many mods for your game to handle successfully. Most likely will need some ini tweaks (or un-tweaks, depending). Inifinite loading screens can be a wide array of reasons and is not always easy to find the cause for.

 

If you would turn on your Papyrus logging (see my guide) and post the results here we can help you better.

[Nshell]

try this: make a backup of your .INIs and delete them, than run original skyrim launcher to build them with default settings. close your launcher and launch SKSE.

 

see if this helps. if you get skyrim stable again strat tweak your .INIs slowly.

[Lodakai]

Even if you are using a high end PC, if you are using all those mods without checking them in TESVEdit and running a bashed patch... you are going to have many different conflicts and mods functioning incorrectly.  With that volume of modification, you pretty much have to learn the tools.

 

EDIT: If setting the INI options to default does not work for you.  You could try to add the alternate start mod and then add your mods 10 at a time.  Start at the Bannered mare in whiterun and then try to enter and exit the buildings there as well as the city.   If you run into the infinite load screen, it is possible that you have a scripting conflict in one of the last 10 mods that you loaded.   

 

NOTE: make sure you stay below the 256 mod hard cap as well.  I think you should be at 251 now.. 252 if you added a bashed patch.

 

EDIT:  DigitalVixen just provided the beginnings of a really useful guide.  Have a look.  It might help

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/22517-wip-vixens-guide-to-stable-skyrim-modding-v-04-2013-11-01-last-addition-adding-custom-bodies/?p=558310

[cornbreadtm]

Wow! seems like you've gotten yourself into what I like to call the modding loop. You see a mod you install it, months later it upgrades to you miss it. Then you get to this point where you have a jumble of mods that need to be upgraded and mods you have installed that use the upgrades so you game is looking for refs that don't exist.

 

Pretty much at this point your going to want to start from scratch. If your using a mod manager like NMM or MO good. If not your going to want to start to. All of the mods managers have update alert features which makes it skeptical that you're using one.

 

Besides from the before mentioned horrible load order that you have (I see over writes in there that make at least 10 mods pointless), you have some esps that aren't even used by the mod authors anymore like Zazanimation pack is currently just an esm, it doesn't have an esp any more.

 

I can tell just by looking at your esp list that they use a lot of vanity mods (any mod that changes textures or meshes in the game) you're going to want to remove those while testing after getting your load order in a working order. I doubt you use even 10 of those clothing mods out of the 50 or so I see. Probably only use 2~3 of those hair mods out of the 10 or so. Every mod in your load order has to be loaded by the game if your not using something you shouldn't have in.

 

Scripted mods can't be safely removed without your saves taking a hit. But everything else should be removed when they aren't being used.

 

So;

 

1) You have about 250 mods in your load order and I know for a fact that your are only actively using about 100. Remove what your aren't using.

 

2) Upgrade your mods. A lot of your mods need to be ungraded so mods using them as masters will function properly.

 

3) Remove all of your texture and mesh based vanity mods. Just because your computer can handle them doesn't mean that Skyrim can. I know your having a problem with this because the Skyforge crashing is related to it. You can put some back in once none of the problems you have expressed have cropped up for a while. But be wary about mesh changes since one bad mesh can crash a game. SMIM is fine but be picky about what you use in the installer.

 

4) Use Boss to order your mods. Since you don't seem to know the orders yourself use the program.

 

5) Use Wyrebash. You need a bashed patch since a lot of your mods are being overwritten making them pointless.

 

6) You might want to look in to learning how to merge mods wit Tes5Edit. You use a lot of clothing and hair mods and they can be merged into 1 esp to cut down of loading/ load order space.turning 50 clothing esps into 1 and 7 hair esps into 1 will have your load order looking pretty thin.

 

7) Enboost is a great tool but if you don't know what you're doing it can cause problems for you. Once you have these problems fixed up message me or make a post and I can help your set up your enblocal.ini based on your computer and game specifics. And you can use enboost along with any enb preset.

[Rayblue]

@zase: what about your current PC specs?

 

I agree that there are too many mods activated, and some script-driven mods may also cause trouble. Also, for example SG Hairpack has a merged version.

[Zaselim]

Guys i am working on it, yes i use all the armor mods i have in the list. I only play for screen shots and making videos so i use every armor/weapons i have, not daily but time to time.

so enabling and disabling and then smithing/purchasing the items or getting it by console command again and again is too much for me but I'll be making a single esp for all the separate armors as i did for my ZGGB-R, ZGGB-R2-U and ZGGB-T Mods. All the separate armors are for my ZGGB Mod. I am also going to that for the weapons as well.

But i am working on it, disabled some mods and re-arranged with boss as well. As i said other than loading screen issue all the other issues i was having are gone now. I didn't know that SG Hair pack has a merge version, I'll get it and used it instead of separate esps.

Also getting help from DigitalVixen, and I am very grateful for her, and thank you guys for you replies and helping me out.

My Pc Specs are

 

Quad Core 2.4GHZ Q6600

GTX 560 1GB

Cosair DHX XMS2 DDR-2 4GB Ram

XFX SLI Ti Board

[shinji72]

If you use a new ENB (over v200) there is no need for ENBoost. It's already include. ENBoost if for people who don't use ENBs

[Zaselim]

If you use a new ENB (over v200) there is no need for ENBoost. It's already include. ENBoost if for people who don't use ENBs

thanks for the info

[dobmc]

Did you try Safety Load? I haven't got the chance to test it out but coming from Kapaer (the user famous for his Pre-catch killer and Mfg-console mod) I automatically assume that the mod won't disappoint.

 

Oh *facepalm* nevermind. Just read the thread and realised that the problem was already solved.

[Zaselim]

Did you try Safety Load? I haven't got the chance to test it out but coming from Kapaer (the user famous for his Pre-catch killer and Mfg-console mod) I automatically assume that the mod won't disappoint.

 

Oh *facepalm* nevermind. Just read the thread and realised that the problem was already solved.

No its not, still working on it. Cant even start a new game even with all the mods disabled. Game crashes every time when the guy sitting in the front starts talking

[cornbreadtm]

 

Did you try Safety Load? I haven't got the chance to test it out but coming from Kapaer (the user famous for his Pre-catch killer and Mfg-console mod) I automatically assume that the mod won't disappoint.

 

Oh *facepalm* nevermind. Just read the thread and realised that the problem was already solved.

No its not, still working on it. Cant even start a new game even with all the mods disabled. Game crashes every time when the guy sitting in the front starts talking

 

 

Use live another life instead of pure vanilla. Then zone your character into an inn. Then go outside. That's how you test out problems. If it only crashes outside you might have an ini problem.

[Zaselim]

 

 

Did you try Safety Load? I haven't got the chance to test it out but coming from Kapaer (the user famous for his Pre-catch killer and Mfg-console mod) I automatically assume that the mod won't disappoint.

 

Oh *facepalm* nevermind. Just read the thread and realised that the problem was already solved.

No its not, still working on it. Cant even start a new game even with all the mods disabled. Game crashes every time when the guy sitting in the front starts talking

 

 

Use live another life instead of pure vanilla. Then zone your character into an inn. Then go outside. That's how you test out problems. If it only crashes outside you might have an ini problem.

 

the new game crashes even with safety load. Other than that i get a infinite load screen when i enter cities. I also tried by using console commands to get into the Inn, house and shops and the character spawns there (game loads the location fine) but when i exit the place to the city then bam infinite loading screen. But now with "safety load"  the ratio became 50-50. If i go into the city 4 times it loads 2 times and 2 times i have loading screen loop.

 

What INI file, if you can tell?

Will try Alternate Start you mentioned also for the new game..

[ballsy]

Safety Load

1. broken saveGame
2. memory shortage
3. when game loads many object/texture data

This mod blocks 3. only.

 

Get Skyrim Perforamance monitor. You'll be able to tell if it crashes because of 2 and if it isn't 2 then it's 1. 

 

[Zaselim]

Safety Load

1. broken saveGame

2. memory shortage

3. when game loads many object/texture data

 

This mod blocks 3. only.

 

Get Skyrim Perforamance monitor. You'll be able to tell if it crashes because of 2 and if it isn't 2 then it's 1. 

i am guessing 2 or 3 because i checked many saves, I have 4gb ddr 2 of ram, also have some textures installed like 2k Tex for towns and SMIM.

I also deleted the skyrim.ini and skyrimpref.ini and started the new game with 0 mod but the new game crashed. With Safety load installed when i start the new game the see the camera moving circles when the starting scene starts and game crashes after 5-10 secs. With safety load off the new game crashes after the game sitting in front starts talking. But with safety load the infinite loading screen ratio dropped.

 

I started the new game with alternate start and checking it out, so far I Have tried 2 options and on both options the game crashed to desktop. Note that I am checking it with 0 Mods On.

I am guessing there something wrong with the game and the final thing would be to install a fresh game, but i want to try as many ways as i can because i don;t want to install a new game.