quests Radiant Prostitution - RMCW Edition

[Blinder]

Has the waitress job rewards ever got fixed?
The amount of gold you can gain, from simply passing food around is ridiculous.

How can you nerf it, like it was before?

[eflat01]

On 1/3/2025 at 7:32 AM, Blinder said:

Has the waitress job rewards ever got fixed?
The amount of gold you can gain, from simply passing food around is ridiculous.

How can you nerf it, like it was before?

You mean the customers paying a 500% tip on a sweetroll? 😉 Yeah, I never understood that. How and why would anyone be coerced into prostitution? 

 

Certainly not good for the business, a waitress should get 20% at most but I'm more inclined to say make it 1 to 2%.

 

Then again I set prostitution prices so that the innkeeper gets 95 to 99% and If I had my way I'd set the base prices super low and capped the money per client. i.e. on average BJ's 10 septims, 20 for intercourse. You're a commodity who's services should be around the price of six-pack of mead, and falling to not much more than loaf of bread. You should not be able to outright buy a home just from working a couple of nights at an inn. The way the mod is set up you could own the inn. Where are customers and clients coming up with all this money?

 

It's no wonder the innkeeper tells you when return to work: "You're back? well you certainly don't need the money but whatever." when they should be saying "Good wench, It's about time now get out there peddle that pussy to make us (me) a few septims!"

 

The base was always frivolous with money. I mean money itself is meaningless and useless in the game... there should be inflation, especially in a war and taxes on top of everything... owning property they should be paying. Money itself should actually be finite, circulating and negotiable. 

 

In summary,,, Where the heck are customers and clients coming up with all this money?

Edited January 8, 2025 by eflat01
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[thegirlinchains]

any chance of a beyond skyrim bruma patch? love the mod.

[Dakhma]

Hey its awesome you are updating the mod, I had a few suggestions:

 

More depth to serving food / tavern wench job:

- More food options

- tipping system when serving food/drinks

- A way to incorporate teasing or flashing for higher tips while serving food / drinks. ( Sort of like the Corruption Town Tavern mini game )

- A way to make arousal make you more willing/desperate to be unable to deny prostitution requests

- A way to make tavern patrons offer you of their alcoholic drink which makes you drunk overtime which leads to arousal and easier prostitution.

 

[Jakuro]

Has anyone figured out what's causing the game to freeze on the "All The Kings Horses" quest???

[Jakuro]

7 minutes ago, Jakuro said:

Has anyone figured out what's causing the game to freeze on the "All The Kings Horses" quest???

Edit: What I meant to ask was has there been a fix for it yet? (im aware of the script that causes CTD & freeze)

[Fuzzy_Fox]

Do I really need Sexlab P+ for this to work?

Each time I try that mod it stops sexlab from working. 

[eflat01]

4 hours ago, Fuzzy_Fox said:

Do I really need Sexlab P+ for this to work?

Each time I try that mod it stops sexlab from working. 

No, Sexlab works fine.

[eflat01]

On 1/20/2025 at 12:47 PM, Jakuro said:

Edit: What I meant to ask was has there been a fix for it yet? (im aware of the script that causes CTD & freeze)

 

I do not even know if the author is supporting the mod, let alone updating it.

[Terrarium]

Would be cool to have option to manually add NPC to have innkeeper options, like it works in "Honed Metal" mod. This way it would work with any mod adding taverns.

[eflat01]

5 hours ago, Terrarium said:

Would be cool to have option to manually add NPC to have innkeeper options, like it works in "Honed Metal" mod. This way it would work with any mod adding taverns.

 

It will work with any mod which adds an inn-keeper (npc) and mods which add inns most likely do. See, the dialog is attached to "JobInnkeeperFaction" - a base-game faction, So as long as the mod adds in an actual innkeeper it works. 

 

i.e.

1. I have a Granite Hill mod with an inn and a inn added to Karthwasten so can get a job as a prostitute in both places. 

 

2. A mod does not have to add an inn the mod just has to add an npc with "JobInnkeeperFaction".

 

It worked with the Nasty Pine when I checked it out https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/138504 though I removed the mod (not enough patrons and a bit too rich for a brothel imo). Will likely work with all the brothels the author Manguz has... like Rift's Rest...

 

The Inn-keepers added by Immersive Wenches (I think there's near a dozen of them) also have the prostitution job dialog. (because they're in the vanilla faction)

 

I added an innkeeper (who serves drinks but does not rent beds) and a Flowergirl to Thirsk Mead Hall and it works fine there. I feel Mead Halls need serving girls. 😉

 

3. Also, If the voice-type is a vanilla voice-type the added voice mods for this mod also have it covered.

 

The biggest issue with some mods is not finding an inn keeper to get the job, but finding enough clients close by.  Even with Populated skyrim I had to add some npc's to Old Hroldan and a few of the sparser populated areas where inns are added.

 

Quite a few mods which add inns - really with many new locations - also do not add enough idle markers and/or they have terrible navmesh like placing it under tables etc... Can't stand grown adults walking on tables kicking things across the room.

 

Edited January 24, 2025 by eflat01

[abunchofcats]

Haven't seen this reported anywhere, but I think there's a bug with the sex diary stats. When I use this mod, the stats in it keep resetting (like novice/apprentice/etc experience for oral/vaginal/anal, scene and partner counts). This mostly seems relevant because afaik this mod checks the experience to determine payouts? I haven't been able to pin down when this happens, just that every time I load into the game it's all reset again. Removing the mod seems to have it act normally. I'm using P+, if that helps.

 

 

[liniul]

I can only think of  sexlab shrines , kind of mandatory if you use SLSO,it resets your depravity and your stats if you pray at  any alter .you could pump up the $ you get from speech craft and/or whore level if you stats are low.

[Jakuro]

On 1/22/2025 at 2:24 PM, eflat01 said:

 

I do not even know if the author is supporting the mod, let alone updating it.

Unfortunate

[Omnishade]

Please explain something to me regarding SLSO functionality. On the SLP+ page it says SLSO is incompatible, but it says in the optional section "This mod works best with SLSO so that your client has to have an orgasm." So we can still use SLSO and it will track enjoyment?

 

[eflat01]

7 hours ago, Omnishade said:

Please explain something to me regarding SLSO functionality. On the SLP+ page it says SLSO is incompatible, but it says in the optional section "This mod works best with SLSO so that your client has to have an orgasm." So we can still use SLSO and it will track enjoyment?

 

 

If you use P+ as far as I know is incompatible with SLSO.  So no. Radiant Prostitution was initially designed around SexLab and SLSO works with that... and Radiant utilizes SLSO just with that as a thought feature for payment, It's not dependent upon it (will work without it) but SLSO play affect the mod when comes to clients.

 

Edited March 9, 2025 by eflat01

[Omnishade]

14 hours ago, eflat01 said:

 

If you use P+ as far as I know is incompatible with SLSO.  So no. Radiant Prostitution was initially designed around SexLab and SLSO works with that... and Radiant utilizes SLSO just with that as a thought feature for payment, It's not dependent upon it (will work without it) but SLSO play affect the mod when comes to clients.

 

 

So you always get paid as if your client had an orgasm?

 

There is also this on the SLP+ main page: "Improved SLs internal enjoyment logic. SLSO mods will work with SLP+ without a patch (SLSO itself is incompatible)"

 

That implies SLP+ has its own enjoyment logic. So does RP use it? Have anyone tried it?

Edited March 9, 2025 by Omnishade

[eflat01]

11 minutes ago, Omnishade said:

 

So you always get paid as if your client had an orgasm?

Yes,  Without separate orgasms, unless you manually force SexLab via keystrokes (I think the spacebar is the default key) to skip entirely by the orgasm scene at the end - you can catch it as it starts.

 

What SLSO does is split up random possibilities of the actors to orgasm during the last staged scene. if you thought about it... the longer you stretch out that stage the more likely it is that the actors orgasm, if you ended the stage quickly no one will.

Edited March 9, 2025 by eflat01

[remodel]

My creature frame work was fully working before I installed SexLab Separate Orgasm SE w/ patch for SexLab P+ and Radiant Prostitution - RMCW Edition 8.1.1.  In console trouble shooting screen is see that SexLab is saying there are no appropriate animations available.  I have Billy installed. 

 

I suspect this is a MCM choice issue.  There were so many between the mods, I may have them set wrong.  What settings will help with SexLab selecting an animation.  Something is blocking the animation.

 

Thanks

[combine_47]

Maybe I'm wrong, but in the past I think there used to be an option to reduce tips for waitressing?

[eflat01]

1 hour ago, remodel said:

My creature frame work was fully working before I installed SexLab Separate Orgasm SE w/ patch for SexLab P+ and Radiant Prostitution - RMCW Edition 8.1.1.  In console trouble shooting screen is see that SexLab is saying there are no appropriate animations available.  I have Billy installed. 

 

I suspect this is a MCM choice issue.  There were so many between the mods, I may have them set wrong.  What settings will help with SexLab selecting an animation.  Something is blocking the animation.

 

Thanks

 

Many creature animations also happen to be tagged rough, aggressive, etc...

 

So, you may look in the McM  to see if it's toggled off SexLab or P+ (in sexlab rough is off by default and needs to actually be turned on). SexLab will filter out animations the user restricts individually in the animations tabs or rough and aggressive sex as a whole on the first main menu tab I believe. 

 

Tags in Billyy's for canines i.e.

 

Billyy,Creature,Dog,Dogs,Canine,Wolf,Bestiality,CF,Dirty,Rough,Doggy,DoggyStyle,Knotted,Creampie,MovingDick,ABC,Vaginal

 

Edited March 17, 2025 by eflat01

[remodel]

2 hours ago, eflat01 said:

Many creature animations also happen to be tagged rough, aggressive, etc...

 

So, you may look in the McM  to see if it's toggled off SexLab or P+ (in sexlab rough is off by default and needs to actually be turned on). SexLab will filter out animations the user restricts individually in the animations tabs or rough and aggressive sex as a whole on the first main menu tab I believe. 

Will try it.  Thanks much

 

 

I did find aggressive toggles in the creature frame work and made sure they were off.  Didn't Find an aggressive toggle in SexLab/SexLab P+.  Changing the toggles didn't work.  Guess I'm going to have to work up a full diagnostic with log and debugs screens.

Edited March 17, 2025 by remodel
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[remodel]

The bottom Line cause of my creature frame work (and attendant mods) failing is SexLab Separate Orgasm SE.  I've tried all the toggles and selections I could find  in it's MCM.  I looked through the posts and it seems that SexLab Separate Orgasm SE is almost a requirement if you want to complete the quests for Radiant Prostitution.  

 

FYI, I've made similar post in SexLab Separate Orgasm SE because I see the mods as linked.  One doesn't work the other won't play well.

 

Right now I have it all disabled in MO2.  

 

I hope someone who uses the Sexlab Creature Features and uses this Mod has a solution.  Is Separate Orgasm Incompatible with creature frame work (and attendant Mods)?  I'm beginning to lean this way.

 

SexLab Mods and status in my mod load: numbers are load order, "+" - active, "-" disabled  (I'll change the order based on this group, it'll take convincing me to move them outside this group.  I have everything else working with this large number of MODs but this one)

Spoiler

"1321","-","Sex Mods_separator"
"1322","+","SexLabFrameworkAE_v166b"
"1323","-","SexLab Separate Orgasm"
"1324","+","SexLab Framework PPLUS"
"1325","-","SLSO - Sexlab PPLUS 1.8.2.3 Patch"
"1326","+","OSL Aroused"
"1327","+","OSL Aroused Conditional Horny Idles - OAR Conversion"
"1328","+","OSL Aroused Horny Walk and Run - OAR"
"1329","+","SL_Advanced_Cum_Stages"
"1330","+","SexLab EagerNPCSERev"
"1331","+","SexLab Eager NPCs 1.0.0 Voice Files"
"1332","+","A_SlaveTatsSE-1.3.9"
"1333","+","B_SlaveTatsNG-0.6.4"
"1334","+","SlaveTats - Bathing In Skyrim Tweaked Patch (with the correct .pex file!)"
"1335","+","C_Anuketh - SlaveTats Pack 1 v1.51"
"1336","+","C_QOS_LewdMarks-1-1-0"
"1337","+","E_Sex Lab - Sexual Fame Framework SE V0.99"
"1338","+","F_SLSF Reloaded"
"1339","+","G_SLSFFameComments v"
"1340","+","SLSFFameComments 3.31 Voice Files"
"1341","+","J_Simple Slavery Plus Plus 6.3.24 [SE]"
"1342","+","Simple Slavery Plus Plus 6.3.22 - Voice"
"1343","+","KA_Radiant Prostitution 8.1.1 SE"
"1344","+","K_DEBT QUEST HOTFIX FOR 8.1.1"
"1345","+","Radiant Prostitution RMCW Edition - SLSFR Patch"
"1346","+","Radiant Prostitution 7-0-4 Voice"
"1347","+","A_CreatureFrameworkV3-1"
"1348","+","B_MoreNastyCrittersSE_v15_6"
"1349","+","C_SexLab Aroused Creatures SE v04.14"
"1350","+","D_SexLab Aroused Creatures (Tweak)"
"1351","+","E_SexLab Aroused Creatures SE v4.10 Generated Voice Pack"
"1352","+","F_BakaFactory Animated Beasts Cocks"
"1353","+","G_More Nasty Critters - Draugrs Patch"
"1354","+","H_More Nasty Critters - Skeletons HD Patch"
"1355","+","SL Defeat SSE.5.3.6 Bane 06082024"
"1356","+","SexLab Defeat 5.3.6 Voice Files"
"1357","+","Dripping when aroused"
"1358","+","Billyy's SLAL Animations 8.8"
"1359","+","SexLab - ZaZ Animation Pack (8.0 HDT)"
"1360","+","SexLab - ZaZ Rabbit and Chicken Death Fix"
"1361","+","Automated SLSB Conversions 0.9"
"1362","+","Baka Motion Data Pack"
"1363","+","Fertility Mode"
"1364","+","Fertility Mode v3 Fixes and Tweaks"
"1365","+","Fertility Mode v3 Fixes and Tweaks - Settings Loader"
"1366","+","Pregnant and Creampie Voice Pack 1.1a"
"1367","+","SLDrunkRedux v"
"1368","+","Sexlab Fill Her Up Baka Edition"
"1369","+","SexLab - Horrible Harassment Expansion"
"1370","+","P.A.I.A - Pregnancy And Inflation Animation"
"1371","+","Labor Animations (Open Animation Replacer)"
"1372","+","Wintersun - SexLab Integration SE v1.3.3"
"1373","+","Interesting NPCs - Sexlab Patch"

 

[eflat01]

19 hours ago, remodel said:

Will try it.  Thanks much

 

 

I did find aggressive toggles in the creature frame work and made sure they were off.  Didn't Find an aggressive toggle in SexLab/SexLab P+.  Changing the toggles didn't work.  Guess I'm going to have to work up a full diagnostic with log and debugs screens.

You want them on not off

 

[komenavos]

In some quests, i'd like to instead a random whore, the other prostitute was your follower, maybe you could convince her by persuation telling she will earn money, and be an example of it is not that bad, or by intimidation, telling: if you arent nice with this gentleman i will sell you to a bandit camp.

Edited March 22, 2025 by komenavos