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[Grey Cloud]

1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

I am still waiting for something to support this: "You should address this problem first, before you do anything else".

There you go. My apologises for saying it was a question.

 

For all your semantics in that last post you still haven't directly addressed anything I wrote. That is all you have done since I challenged that initial assertion - duck and dive and introduce more and more deflection and waffle.

[Roggvir]

5 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

There you go. My apologises for saying it was a question.

 

For all your semantics in that last post you still haven't directly addressed anything I wrote. That is all you have done since I challenged that initial assertion - duck and dive and introduce more and more deflection and waffle.

You really like the word "assertion" Is it a new word you recently learned? - now see that? THAT is a question. Do you know how you can tell? (that is also a question)

 

Anyway, sorry, i am just having fun.
You made it clear that you are just trolling, when you started putting words into other ppls mouths, so i do not care about any of your questions, or your "challenges" to my "assertions".
But just so nobody can say i am not a good sport, i give you one chance, and i will answer honestly (as i always do) and directly (as i see fit).
So, take your time, gather your thoughts, formulate your questions, and post them.
Oooooh, i am now sooo very curious what are you going to come up with ?

[Grey Cloud]

14 minutes ago, Roggvir said:

You made it clear that you are just trolling, when you started putting words into other ppls mouths, so i do not care about any of your questions, or your "challenges" to my "assertions".

That is another assertion you cannot give any examples of.

 

15 minutes ago, Roggvir said:

So, take your time, gather your thoughts, formulate your questions, and post them.

What evidence do you have that this FNIS warning: ">>Warning: Generator not run from a legal (Steam) Skyrim installation directory. If you use SKSE, this can be fixed by starting Skyrim once through Steam.<<" should be addressed before anything else? ("You should address this problem first, before you do anything else.")

 

Could you share your knowledge and give the world 5 examples of why you have to edit the registry in connection to gaming ?

 

You wrote: "But i give you a tip at least - try a google search, if you can".

What word or term would you recommend that I search for?

 

You wrote: "You keep proving it yourself since the first moment you posted in this topic."

How did I prove it in the first moment I posted in this topic?

 

You wrote: "you completely twisted what has been originally said, into something wastly different, something that was never said here by anybody except you just now

What did I completely twist?

 

You wrote: "That is not what somebody who is "always willing to learn" does."

How do you know what everyone who is 'always willing to learn' does or does not do?

 

 

[Roggvir]

4 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

5 hours ago, Roggvir said:

You made it clear that you are just trolling, when you started putting words into other ppls mouths, so i do not care about any of your questions, or your "challenges" to my "assertions".

That is another assertion you cannot give any examples of.

But i don't need to give you any examples!
You provide all the examples anyone would ever need, just scroll up to your previous posts

 

 

4 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

What evidence do you have that this FNIS warning: ">>Warning: Generator not run from a legal (Steam) Skyrim installation directory. If you use SKSE, this can be fixed by starting Skyrim once through Steam.<<" should be addressed before anything else? ("You should address this problem first, before you do anything else.")

So, you see a Warning message about something being possibly fucked up, and you ask for "an evidence" why you should check what the message is talking about and fix any problems you may find?

Incredible.

That warning that you are telling everybody to ignore, can indicate a problem.
How odd that somebody with such impressive experience of "playing games since W98" needs this explained to them, are you sure you really know everything?

Well, there is this thing called common sense. I know you do not posses it, but surely you had to at least hear about it.
A person equipped with this common sense, understands that you should fix an underlying system first (ie. the game), before you go about trying to fix whatever you added on top of it (ie. a mod).

I bet you now want to ask why, right?

I can almost see it... "huh? but what evidence do you have that this is a good thing to do?"
Sorry, no evidence to satisfy your courtroom drama obsession.
Thing is, you do not actually need any evidence for this, you do not even need your experience of "playing games since W98".
(i am sorry, i can't help it... i just find it incredibly funny that you consider this impressive, or somehow important to mention... like "hahaaa! i play games longer than you, therefore i am right and you are wrong" ? ...and the most funny thing about it is that the day you started playing games is at least 7 years after i made my first game ...isn't that funny? i mean, if it would really matter who is the oldest fart in here, i would automatically win, using your own silly rules! ?)

Anyway, no evidence, just a plain common sense is all you need to understand this.
 

 

4 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Could you share your knowledge and give the world 5 examples of why you have to edit the registry in connection to gaming ?

But why are you asking me???
You came up with this idea that you "have to edit the registry in connection to gaming".
I didn't write anything even remotely like that. It is you who keeps nagging about this weirdly absolute statement you came up with.
 

Still, you actually are onto something here.
The Windows Registry is usually pretty important to most SW that runs on Windows, and that includes games.
You see, the point of Windows Registry is to store some information, usually configuration options, and it may surprise you, but that includes even things like paths to where the sw/game's data is located or where the sw/game is installed, or various information about what DLCs are installed, etc.
So, the registry is pretty important, and depending on the game and how it uses the Registry, what data it stores in there, and for which purpose, and how it handles that data, it can cause issues if that registry data gets messed up or out of sync with the reality (have you ever installed a game, then moved or renamed its folder, only to find that the game isn't starting anymore? no? really? never did that huh? even with your vast experience of playing games since 98? well, now you know the registry can matter).

You can also stop pretending you are a complete dumdum, and just use the google search to find your "5 examples".
 

 

4 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

You wrote: "But i give you a tip at least - try a google search, if you can".

What word or term would you recommend that I search for?

Well, this is really, really difficult, because you need two things.
First thing is a name of some game, so due to lack of imagination on my part, let's try "Witcher 3".

Second thing is a phrase like "Registry fix", or something like that.
Once you have these two things, you combine them into one string that looks something like this: "Witcher 3 Registry fix".
Open the google search and enter that combined string without quotes into the search field, get ready to be mindblown, and then send your query.
 

 

4 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

You wrote: "You keep proving it yourself since the first moment you posted in this topic."

How did I prove it in the first moment I posted in this topic?

Your first post here was this: "Why? That hasn't nothing to do with anything."
Which was your reaction to my post recommending that OP looks into that warning message first.
I think by now i already overexplained why that statement of yours is ignorant, so there, that is the proof you wanted.

 

 

4 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

You wrote: "you completely twisted what has been originally said, into something wastly different, something that was never said here by anybody except you just now

What did I completely twist?

You wrote "... editing the Windows registry on a regular basis would be required for gaming", pretending that is something i wrote.
I did not write anything even remotely like that, as i already pointed out.
So, you took something i wrote (i can only guess what that was - you tell me), and twisted it into the sentence above, and tried to pass it on as something i wrote, because i guess you thought it would somehow serve as some sort of argument.

 

 

4 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

You wrote: "That is not what somebody who is "always willing to learn" does."

How do you know what everyone who is 'always willing to learn' does or does not do?

Again, this is a common sense thing.
Unfortunately, again, since you apparently lack common sense, you cannot understand it.

Edited September 23, 2022 by Roggvir

[yorpers]

50 minutes ago, Roggvir said:

The Windows Registry is usually pretty important to most SW that runs on Windows, and that includes games.

Gee its almost like...some programs might use the Hkey there for things.?

 

 

 

Spoiler

Here should show people that FNIS appears to use the Hkey in the registry to make a check. Note the file path in the expected  generator path. 

 

 

 

With FNIS it is likely just a simple error message signifying that your game install path does not match the Hkey or is pirated. FNIS will still work.

Source- the fnis mod page

• FNIS checks whether you use a legal Skyrim Steam installation. For this purpose reads the information Steam is setting every time you launch Skyrim with the Steam launcher. If this check fails, you will get a warning in the FNIS output window.

 

 

 

So why is this a problem? If you mod skyrim in 2022 you probably will end up wanting to use more programs than FNIS. ?

 

 

 

 

 

Here is an example of what I mean.

 

 

 

This below happens when your registry hkey install path does not match the actual install path.

 

(copied from xlodgen)

 

Fatal: Error loading plugin list: <EDirectoryNotFoundException: The specified path was not found
[C:\TheSkyrimSE\Skyrim Special Edition2\Data\]>

 

 

loads fine with a matching install path as shown below.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Many sheson programs do this. I'm not going to go through and test every separate program that exists for skyrim and skyrim se to see if they use the registry Hkey.

 

I should not have even had to make this easy to understand example of why this error should be addressed. It simply makes sure programs work correctly, without extra troubleshooting work.?

 

 

[Grey Cloud]

4 hours ago, yorpers said:

Gee its almost like...some programs might use the Hkey there for things.

Nobody is disputing that, genius. The issue here is why does the registry need to be edited for gaming.

[Grey Cloud]

So a wall of waffle and not a question answered.

 

I tried your "Witcher 3 Registry fix" search. Here is first page of hits.

The only link on there that mentions a possible registry change is third down from GOG.com. Even then the issue involves some guy try to change his game version and the Russian language.

There is on down near the bottom which is about Witcher 2 involving some guy with the Steam version trying to get it to work with GOG or something. Neither the problem nor the solution are clear.

The rest of the pages are just generic 10 ways to troubleshoot type stuff and a few involving scripts.

So it would appear that editing the registry for Witcher 3 is not quite as de rigueur as you made it out to be.

 

6 hours ago, Roggvir said:

Your first post here was this: "Why? That hasn't nothing to do with anything."

That was the first line of the post. The second line was:

First thing to do would be to uninstall ZAP then see what happens. Re-run FNIS. Then make sure you are using the correct version of ZAP. (Should it not be ZAP+?).

 

FYI. Animation error posts are frequent in LE tech support. The FNIS outputs frequently feature the warning line about the incorrect game path. The cause of the animation problem varies - SE animations used in LE and vice versa, FNIS executable not set up correctly for the mod manager, etc. I cannot ever recall an animation problem or any other FNIS-related problem being caused by that warning about the game path.

[Roggvir]

1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

I tried your "Witcher 3 Registry fix" search. Here is first page of hits.

Well, why am i not surprised you failed even at this...
Anyway, you wanted 5 examples, and that search (even though you fucked it up, most likely on purpose) gives you a bunch (you also did notice, there are more pages, right?).
So what are you complaining about now? If its not good enough, then try searching differently, or use a better search engine.

You really are pathetic ?

 

1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

8 hours ago, Roggvir said:

Your first post here was this: "Why? That hasn't nothing to do with anything."

That was the first line of the post. The second line was:

First thing to do would be to uninstall ZAP then see what happens. Re-run FNIS. Then make sure you are using the correct version of ZAP. (Should it not be ZAP+?).

And? The first line was stupid shit, and it still is stupid shit, regardless of what the second line says.

Or you think that the second line somehow negates the stupidity of the first one? That is not how words work ?

 

 

1 hour ago, Grey Cloud said:

FYI. Animation error posts are frequent in LE tech support. The FNIS outputs frequently feature the warning line about the incorrect game path. The cause of the animation problem varies - SE animations used in LE and vice versa, FNIS executable not set up correctly for the mod manager, etc. I cannot ever recall an animation problem or any other FNIS-related problem being caused by that warning about the game path.

That makes sense. If people get advice from you, of course there must be a lot of confusion and posts about errors.

Are you just pretending you didn't understood ANYTHING from all the crap i posted since the beginning up to this point?
Or are you really not getting it? yorpers even went out of his way to hand you The Perfect Explanation.

At this point i have to ask, and i really mean it, i am not making fun of you now:
Do you have some learning disability, or some kind of mental issue that makes you this way?
If yes, then i honestly apologize for making fun of you.

 

[Grey Cloud]

42 minutes ago, Roggvir said:

Anyway, you wanted 5 examples, and that search (even though you fucked it up, most likely on purpose) gives you a bunch (you also did notice, there are more pages, right?).

There you go again. Ad hom attack with no supporting evidence. How could I deliberately fuck it up when I posted a link to the DDG page with the search term you suggested clearly visible?

Yes I know there are more pages but if something is so prevalent then it is generally on the first page. Have you got any evidence that it is on some other page? No.

 

 

55 minutes ago, Roggvir said:

That makes sense. If people get advice from you, of course there must be a lot of confusion and posts about errors.

This doesn't make sense in any way, shape or form. The problems were fixed without any redress to registry editing or any attention given to the warning about the game path. The solutions were not only given by me.

 

 

59 minutes ago, Roggvir said:

Or are you really not getting it? yorpers even went out of his way to hand you The Perfect Explanation.

That is your idea of a perfect explanation? A perfect explanation of what exactly?

That problem is due to an incorrect installation of FNIS - the Generate FNIS for Users exe is not where FNIS expects it to be. The solution to that is to install FNIS correctly, i.e. to where the game's Data folder is actually installed. There is absolutely no need to go ferreting about in the registry.

That is one of the most common FNIS-related problems that crop up in the LE tech support section and another of the problems to which the same solution is given without ever needing a mention of the registry.

I am somewhat familiar with the workings of the registry and have edited it in every MS OS since W98. Definitely not W95 but possibly WFWG 3.11.

Just out of curiosity I did a search of the registry for FNIS and nothing came related to the game path warning or any other path other than the one where FNIS actually resides.

 

 

46 minutes ago, Roggvir said:

At this point i have to ask, and i really mean it, i am not making fun of you now:
Do you have some learning disability, or some kind of mental issue that makes you this way?
If yes, then i honestly apologize for making fun of you.

Nice try. Especially coming form the guy who got it wrong about this and this

 

 

52 minutes ago, Roggvir said:

Or you think that the second line somehow negates the stupidity of the first one? That is not how words work

No, me using the second line showed that I directly addressed the OP's problem and also demonstrated that you were being disingenuous by using only the first line.

 

I await your next set of personal attacks, veiled or otherwise.

 

 

 

[Roggvir]

22 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

How could I deliberately fuck it up

I told you to use google, yet you used duckduckgo.
Why not use the search engine as instructed by the instructions you asked for?
Well, there are two reasonable possibilities:
1.) You are an idiot
2.) You hoped the worse results may give you more wiggle room (which they don't, so this doesn't really differ from possibility #1 ?).

 

 

22 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

On 9/23/2022 at 2:28 PM, Roggvir said:

Or are you really not getting it? yorpers even went out of his way to hand you The Perfect Explanation.

That is your idea of a perfect explanation?

Yes. It perfectly explains some of the possible negative consequences of ignoring that warning.
Of course you, lacking integrity and common sense, need to pretend it has nothing to do with anything

 

 

22 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Nice try. Especially coming form the guy who got it wrong about this and this

Yes! I am not unerring. I make mistakes. I even create horrible bugs in my SW. But i acknowledge my errors and usually learn from them.
You on the other hand... you believe you make no mistakes, and when your mistakes are pointed out and explained to you in detail, you still don't acknowledge them, and so you never learn.

 

 

23 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

No, me using the second line showed that I directly addressed the OP's problem and also demonstrated that you were being disingenuous by using only the first line.

This argument is about you telling OP to ignore the first warning. Of course, you do know that, but you are desperately trying to pretend otherwise.
Anyway, i applaud you for getting at least your second line right, but after that you only demonstrated your vast ignorance and lack of integrity.

[Grey Cloud]

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23 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

How could I deliberately fuck it up when I posted a link to the DDG page with the search term you suggested clearly visible?

 

13 minutes ago, Roggvir said:

I told you to use google, yet you used duckduckgo.
Why not use the search engine as instructed by the instructions you asked for?

???

[Roggvir]

2 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

???

 

???

Yes, you are silly ?