DeepBlueFrog Posted July 14, 2014 Author Posted July 14, 2014 Can you tell skyrimll what is Alicia's new body texture based on? It is based on these skin textures : http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/835-skintextures/ I credited it in the change log but I forgot to add a link in the download description. I will fix that at the next update.
ppppp231 Posted July 15, 2014 Posted July 15, 2014 Um...Hey. Well i downloaded the mod, and is doing the quest, butihave a problem, how do i find who to talk too? everyone sends me too another one. Sorry if this is an utterly stupid question. I'm at the start of the quest. I just got the optiont too talk about where she is from. it kinda skipped the line about where she WAS from... so... heh. i had a glimpseoffor about half a second.
Senick Posted July 15, 2014 Posted July 15, 2014 So Alicia got done by some draugyr, and apparently it was more traumatizing than everything she's ever been through, because after that she just keeps pounding the ground with her fist...and I can't get her to stop, lol. I tried unsummoning her and summoning her back, going to a different zone and summoning her none of it fixed it, she'd come back still pounding the ground. I had her "sit and show cuts" which she does, and then stands up briefly when I tell her to get up, but moments later goes back to the fist pound, anyone having a fix for this? thanks!
traveller_phi Posted July 15, 2014 Posted July 15, 2014 The sounds like Defeat behavior. Do you have Defeat installed? If so have you tried appeasing your Alicia, like any other defeated companion?
Budroi Posted July 15, 2014 Posted July 15, 2014 So Alicia got done by some draugyr, and apparently it was more traumatizing than everything she's ever been through, because after that she just keeps pounding the ground with her fist...and I can't get her to stop, lol. I tried unsummoning her and summoning her back, going to a different zone and summoning her none of it fixed it, she'd come back still pounding the ground. I had her "sit and show cuts" which she does, and then stands up briefly when I tell her to get up, but moments later goes back to the fist pound, anyone having a fix for this? thanks! Is she essential? I don't remember. If so, console kill her to force bleed out. It might help her reset.
Asrienda Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) the problem for me is that i can go in the last stage of the quest but i can't finish it. when i reach the misty groves, all I see is an empty cage and a dead corpse then my game freeze. Is Eridor supposed to be dead? is the cage supposed to be empty? Should i just reinstall the mod? I'm having this problem too. When I talked to her ghost, it said Alicia screamed in pain and vanished (or something to that effect), but then Ali showed up and helped me fight through the ghosts in the Abandoned Prison. Now I get a game freeze a moment after loading the Misty Grove area. I've tried multiple times. I even tried disabling Ali before going into the portal and that didn't work either. Finishing A Night To Remember did not fix the freeze. I entered MIsty Grove via ANTR and as long as I stayed away from the area where the Alicia quests takes place, I was fine. But when I ventured to the left and looked at the corpse, I crashed. On another note, whenever I smack Alicia, she immediately goes away and Ali replaces her. Even when NPCs hit Alicia in combat, she goes away and Ali comes back. By the way, the voices of the ghosts really are frightening. don't know where they come from but it's really well done. I concur... holy crap I've never been scared by Skyrim until I went into that prison. Even after I killed the first one and knew there'd be more, I still felt a chill down my spine EACH time! Edited July 17, 2014 by Asrienda
Asrienda Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 Did some more testing and managed to at least complete the quest. My fix was: COC da14interior walk carefully up to the side of the cage to grab the crystals from the box I targeted the guy's body and used: openactorcontainer 1 Took and read the journal (not necessary) Stayed parallel with the cage and put the crystal of the one I didn't want and used the box I got my choice COC whiterun I think the crash has to do with a script or event running when you're somewhere in the area near the dead body and the prison portal.
Kain98712 Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 Hey guys. Awesome mod, i'm loving every second of it and so is Mjolnir Thorshammer (corny, i know, but he's a big-ass Nord with a big-ass hammer). My only gripe is that Alicia's Story quest is vaguely referenced and i can't seem to finish it. I'll try to detail what's going on in the spoiler but i'd greatly appreciate any help regarding a walkthrough through her quest (info is scatered all over the place in the thread and still i can't make ends meet) I beat her senseless until Ali spawned & beat her too so she spilled the beans that Sanguine is her true master.Then, I beat on Alicia until she told me that her dad was an SOB (etc etc) but that's about as far as i've come. I can't seem to figure out where to go next. I've found parts I, II and III of book and notes pertaining to her, but i can't figure out where on earth she was born).My quest log is showing 3 items (threat her in ways that would make Sanguine proud; Find out more info on Sanguine & Alicia; Find Alicia's birthplace and retrace her steps)'.Problem is... I can't find her birthplace (i haven't seen it mentioned in the books or anything and no destination marker is showing up when the quest is active). Is that working as intended & I have to stumble onto the place or is there a problem on my end? Thanks a lot for any info & great job with the mod! PS: Alicia's gifts & Alicia herself work awesome with Puppet Master & Mind Control. (I like Mind Control's way of doing things, combined with Defeat, but the extra options of Puppet Master also come in really handy). EDIT: Nevermind, i'm an idiot. I found the place i was looking for by searching for it on the map "Find Location" It still isn't targeted by the journal though, but i'm going there to see what's going to happend.
DeepBlueFrog Posted July 17, 2014 Author Posted July 17, 2014 Hey guys. Awesome mod, i'm loving every second of it and so is Mjolnir Thorshammer (corny, i know, but he's a big-ass Nord with a big-ass hammer). My only gripe is that Alicia's Story quest is vaguely referenced and i can't seem to finish it. I'll try to detail what's going on in the spoiler but i'd greatly appreciate any help regarding a walkthrough through her quest (info is scatered all over the place in the thread and still i can't make ends meet) I beat her senseless until Ali spawned & beat her too so she spilled the beans that Sanguine is her true master. Then, I beat on Alicia until she told me that her dad was an SOB (etc etc) but that's about as far as i've come. I can't seem to figure out where to go next. I've found parts I, II and III of book and notes pertaining to her, but i can't figure out where on earth she was born). My quest log is showing 3 items (threat her in ways that would make Sanguine proud; Find out more info on Sanguine & Alicia; Find Alicia's birthplace and retrace her steps)'. Problem is... I can't find her birthplace (i haven't seen it mentioned in the books or anything and no destination marker is showing up when the quest is active). Is that working as intended & I have to stumble onto the place or is there a problem on my end? Thanks a lot for any info & great job with the mod! PS: Alicia's gifts & Alicia herself work awesome with Puppet Master & Mind Control. (I like Mind Control's way of doing things, combined with Defeat, but the extra options of Puppet Master also come in really handy). EDIT: Nevermind, i'm an idiot. I found the place i was looking for by searching for it on the map "Find Location" It still isn't targeted by the journal though, but i'm going there to see what's going to happend. Good you found it. I still don't know how to link journal entries to map markers, so the marker is there but it doesn't show when you switch to the map.
Kain98712 Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 Thanks for the quick reply. Yeah, I found the marker by looking up locations in the map since it showed up properly. I finished the quest but I had to do it with Arsienda's workaround. I did the "coc da14interior" thing and avoided going too close to the place where you spawn from the portal (although if I wasn't careful I would get too close and crash). Edit: When I used the portal, I could move for about 1 second and then it would freeze and I had to task-manager my way out of the game. The cell itself is not the problem, just the area around the portal... so... what exactly is supposed to happen when you use the portal? PS: after deciding Alicia/Ali's fate, that's it, right? You get Ali, Alicia, both or none & it's quest over, correct? I noticed that since I didn't get teleported out or anything, I could switch the crystals around in the box and pull the lever and get through all of the possible combinations. So as long as I can return to misty grove, i guess I can always re-make that choice... PPS: The cage in front of the device was empty (I had to banish Alicia previously because she didn't vanish when I spoke to the Echo & I had to conjure her when I was in misty grove to see what happened when I put the soul gems in the device).
DeepBlueFrog Posted July 17, 2014 Author Posted July 17, 2014 Thanks for the quick reply. Yeah, I found the marker by looking up locations in the map since it showed up properly. I finished the quest but I had to do it with Arsienda's workaround. I did the "coc da14interior" thing and avoided going too close to the place where you spawn from the portal (although if I wasn't careful I would get too close and crash). Edit: When I used the portal, I could move for about 1 second and then it would freeze and I had to task-manager my way out of the game. The cell itself is not the problem, just the area around the portal... so... what exactly is supposed to happen when you use the portal? PS: after deciding Alicia/Ali's fate, that's it, right? You get Ali, Alicia, both or none & it's quest over, correct? I noticed that since I didn't get teleported out or anything, I could switch the crystals around in the box and pull the lever and get through all of the possible combinations. So as long as I can return to misty grove, i guess I can always re-make that choice... PPS: The cage in front of the device was empty (I had to banish Alicia previously because she didn't vanish when I spoke to the Echo & I had to conjure her when I was in misty grove to see what happened when I put the soul gems in the device). My current thinking about the crash in the grove is that it has to do with how Alicia is brought back into her cage. The next version has an attempt at a fix. I will try to update the mod before the weekend. The soul gem device is repeatable, so you can always go back to the grove and try again later. I did not close the quest yet, so the objectives will remain on for a while. I would like to add an epilogue with Alicia's sister eventually.
AstarteN7 Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 Is their a confirmation on whether EFF is compatible with this mod? I mainly use EFF because it is supposedly less script heavy and more stable.
Budroi Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 Is their a confirmation on whether EFF is compatible with this mod? I mainly use EFF because it is supposedly less script heavy and more stable. From my extensive testing it seems limitedly compatible. It all depends how you use it honestly. In the MCM menu set it to use the default talk options not the mods menus. Then Do Not use most of the EFF controls for Alicia and Ali. Do Not Use Multiple inventories - open their respective inventories with the vanilla inventory "show me your inventory" or whatever it is. Anything that controls\changes behavior follow and wait\dismiss commands - use the vanilla follow and wait\dismiss commands. Do not change essential status!!! It Is advisable to not use any command that functions for the whole party if using more than one follower. NEVER, I mean NEVER send either of them out to train, ever. This will break them 100% of the time, not exactly sure why. Can use recall party\follower Check stats give\remove spells only - do not change combat AI I know I forgot a few options but ask about them and I will tell you which category it falls into.
AstarteN7 Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 Is their a confirmation on whether EFF is compatible with this mod? I mainly use EFF because it is supposedly less script heavy and more stable. From my extensive testing it seems limitedly compatible. It all depends how you use it honestly. In the MCM menu set it to use the default talk options not the mods menus. Then Do Not use most of the EFF controls for Alicia and Ali. Do Not Use Multiple inventories - open their respective inventories with the vanilla inventory "show me your inventory" or whatever it is. Anything that controls\changes behavior follow and wait\dismiss commands - use the vanilla follow and wait\dismiss commands. Do not change essential status!!! It Is advisable to not use any command that functions for the whole party if using more than one follower. NEVER, I mean NEVER send either of them out to train, ever. This will break them 100% of the time, not exactly sure why. Can use recall party\follower Check stats give\remove spells only - do not change combat AI I know I forgot a few options but ask about them and I will tell you which category it falls into. Thanks for the detailed answer. If you don't mind answering, which of the other follower overhauls (UFO or ATF) will you recommend for this mod? It seems like most of the features of EFF are stripped as a result, and I would rather get a follower mod that works better with Alica. Thanks
Budroi Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 That's a matter of preference as long as you follow the load order and directions on the front page. I personally use AFT. I prefer the 5 follower limit and its inventory management. I also like the way it allows for customizing followers who run off Vanilla Ai (like bijin warmaidens and the fabulous followers packs). Also it seems to not break Alicia if you modify her combat AI. I make her dual wield daggers and it seems to not break anything.
AstarteN7 Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 That's a matter of preference as long as you follow the load order and directions on the front page. I personally use AFT. I prefer the 5 follower limit and its inventory management. I also like the way it allows for customizing followers who run off Vanilla Ai (like bijin warmaidens and the fabulous followers packs). Also it seems to not break Alicia if you modify her combat AI. I make her dual wield daggers and it seems to not break anything. Thanks for the quick response, I will check out ATF and hopefully none of mods will be broken by it. edit: My only problem with this mod is that it forces you to complete the Civil War story line or side with the Stormcloaks but I'm playing as an Imperial so for the EMPIRE. Can't wait to finish the civil war story so I can start playing the mod.
Budroi Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 which mod forces you to side with the stormcloaks aft or alicia? What makes you say that? I ALWAYS side with the imperials. down with the stormcloaks!!!! Stormcloaks are racist bastards so screw them. plus ulfric thinks his shit doesn't stink so Fus that bitch. Pardon my language.
DeepBlueFrog Posted July 18, 2014 Author Posted July 18, 2014 which mod forces you to side with the stormcloaks aft or alicia? What makes you say that? I ALWAYS side with the imperials. down with the stormcloaks!!!! Stormcloaks are racist bastards so screw them. plus ulfric thinks his shit doesn't stink so Fus that bitch. Pardon my language. Alicia doesn't force you to complete the Civil War quest per-se, but if you want to role play it, you have no business in Windhelm as an Imperial until the attack on the city.
Budroi Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 which mod forces you to side with the stormcloaks aft or alicia? What makes you say that? I ALWAYS side with the imperials. down with the stormcloaks!!!! Stormcloaks are racist bastards so screw them. plus ulfric thinks his shit doesn't stink so Fus that bitch. Pardon my language. Alicia doesn't force you to complete the Civil War quest per-se, but if you want to role play it, you have no business in Windhelm as an Imperial until the attack on the city. Lies, I'm an imperial spy. They always suspect that dark elf but it's me...
Asrienda Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 which mod forces you to side with the stormcloaks aft or alicia? What makes you say that? I ALWAYS side with the imperials. down with the stormcloaks!!!! Stormcloaks are racist bastards so screw them. plus ulfric thinks his shit doesn't stink so Fus that bitch. Pardon my language. Alicia doesn't force you to complete the Civil War quest per-se, but if you want to role play it, you have no business in Windhelm as an Imperial until the attack on the city. Actually you go to Windhelm on behalf of the Jarl of Whiterun to deliver an axe or something just before the defense of Whiterun, which is at the beginning of the Imperial Civil War quest line.
DeepBlueFrog Posted July 18, 2014 Author Posted July 18, 2014 which mod forces you to side with the stormcloaks aft or alicia? What makes you say that? I ALWAYS side with the imperials. down with the stormcloaks!!!! Stormcloaks are racist bastards so screw them. plus ulfric thinks his shit doesn't stink so Fus that bitch. Pardon my language. Alicia doesn't force you to complete the Civil War quest per-se, but if you want to role play it, you have no business in Windhelm as an Imperial until the attack on the city. Actually you go to Windhelm on behalf of the Jarl of Whiterun to deliver an axe or something just before the defense of Whiterun, which is at the beginning of the Imperial Civil War quest line. True,... I forgot about that (I usually side with the Nords on that issue ).
Asrienda Posted July 18, 2014 Posted July 18, 2014 So I kept Alicia because I like the voice acting. But it gets annoying that she decides to bow out of fights to masturbate half the time. Like seriously girl, I need some daedric arrows in those guys trying to kill me over there, I promise to whip you later.
DeepBlueFrog Posted July 18, 2014 Author Posted July 18, 2014 So I kept Alicia because I like the voice acting. But it gets annoying that she decides to bow out of fights to masturbate half the time. Like seriously girl, I need some daedric arrows in those guys trying to kill me over there, I promise to whip you later. That's part of her charm
AstarteN7 Posted July 19, 2014 Posted July 19, 2014 Fantastic mod! I think you should add a guide to her quest, I like to look through it once I complete it the first time blind so that if I miss anything, I can roll back and try it again. No problem installing the mod and triggering her quest, but I did notice some sharp FPS drop that dissipated after a few tweaks and Skyrim/computer reboot. edit: what I find off is that you are tasked to find more about Sanguine but if you have SD+ installed, you're his personal play thing. Perhaps a possible integration ? edit2: The FPS drop is still there, and it is only present when Ali/Alica is around, once I dismiss her my FPS shoots back to 60 from around 30-40. This is my load order if that helps Skyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1Dawnguard.esm=1Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1HearthFires.esm=1Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1Dragonborn.esm=1Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full Version.esm=1ClimatesOfTamriel.esm=1ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1ApachiiHair.esm=1hdtHighHeel.esm=1BBLuxurySuite.esm=1daymoyl.esm=1SexLab.esm=1SexLabAroused.esm=1PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm=1Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1Devious Deviants.esp=1CharacterMakingExtender.esp=1EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp=1SkyRe_Main.esp=1GagSFX.esp=1Apropos.esp=1SexLabSquirt.esp=1SexLab Cumshot.esp=1Blood Raven - CBBE.esp=1NusbieVoices.esp=1dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1Devious Cidhna.esp=1ReadAndLearnSpeechcraft.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp=1ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp=1CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp=1CoT-WeatherPatch.esp=1CoT-WeatherPatch_NL3.esp=1CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp=1SexLabDefeat.esp=1HDT Havok Object.esp=1ImmersiveFP.esp=1Ebon Shroud.esp=1Al3dHotDress1_1.esp=1HelmetToggle2.02b.esp=1iHUD.esp=1Immersive Weapons.esp=1PSQ Aroused.esp=1SexLab-AmorousAdventures.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp=1Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp=1Better Vampires ML.esp=1Captured Dreams.esp=1Cloaks.esp=1Immersive Patrols II.esp=1Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp=1Zipsuit.esp=1Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp=1Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp=1Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp=1Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=13D_Meshed_PubicHair.esp=1MoonLightSword_Craftable.esp=1SexLab Sound FX Replacer.esp=1SexLab Romance.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp=1SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp=1SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp=1The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1xazPrisonOverhaul.esp=1SOS - Shop.esp=1Serana.esp=1Run For Your Lives.esp=1isilNarsil.esp=1iNeed.esp=1Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1LoversComfort.esp=1FNISspells.esp=1PSQ iNeed.esp=1BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp=1BBLSVisitors.esp=1BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp=1BBLSspouse.esp=1BBLSapachii.esp=1SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp=1SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp=1SkyRe_StandingStones.esp=1SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp=1Duel - Combat Realism.esp=1hydra_slavegirls.esp=1NoNakedComments.esp=1TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1Brows.esp=1Breezehome_Fully_Upgradable.esp=1sanguinesDebauchery.esp=1SDpatch - dawnguard.esp=1SDpatch - dragonborn.esp=1AngrimApprentice.esp=1AliciaPainSlut.esp=1ReProccer.esp=1Dual Sheath Redux.esp=1Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp=1Radiant-SchlongsPatch.esp=1MF_RadiantProstitution.esp=1SlaveTats.esp=1Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1 edit 3: If i walk away from her, my FPS goes back to 60. Very weird problem! edit: 4 Roll back to a save without Alica installed, I will try to find out the problem. I'm running a lot of mods and using Realvision ENb, I get a solid and stable 60 fps.
DeepBlueFrog Posted July 19, 2014 Author Posted July 19, 2014 New version 3.6 is out with these changes: - Removed bondage items from Alicia in final scene to prevent some crashes - Improved compatibility with new Alternate Start mod :: Disabled ghosts until final stages of quest - Fixed: Removed playable flag from Alicia's custom race - Fixed: Added AI Package to force Ali to remain where she is before the player meets Alicia - Fixed: Added support for the new 'no strip on enslavement' flag in SD for Ali - Fixed: Alicia doesn't vanish after talking to the Echo Let me know if that helps with crashes when going through the portal.
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