DeepBlueFrog Posted March 17, 2014 Author Posted March 17, 2014 I tried to fix the gray face issue but I couldn't test it since it is working on my end. What I did was refresh all the files I have about mesh and textures for Alicia, Ali body shapes and for the face tints of all custom NPCs.
Old Book Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 As soon as I enabled this, Ali came charging up to and agreed to follow my character. I haven't even started the Butcher or Sanguine quests.
DeepBlueFrog Posted March 17, 2014 Author Posted March 17, 2014 As soon as I enabled this, Ali came charging up to and agreed to follow my character. I haven't even started the Butcher or Sanguine quests. This quest is not related to the Sanguine quest and is independent from the Butcher. Ali should not show up by herself without you visiting the basement in Windhelm though... something is still messed up in initialization then. It is the first time you enable Alicia or did you try her before?
Old Book Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 As soon as I enabled this, Ali came charging up to and agreed to follow my character. I haven't even started the Butcher or Sanguine quests. This quest is not related to the Sanguine quest and is independent from the Butcher. Ali should not show up by herself without you visiting the basement in Windhelm though... something is still messed up in initialization then. It is the first time you enable Alicia or did you try her before? First time in this save and install. Edited to add: Doesn't matter if she's actively a follower or not, Ali is still following my character. Went through the gate into Sanguines realm, got teleported back with the Dragonborn to the Bannered Mare. Side note: For immersion sake, is it possible to put a gate or something up in Misty Grove to prevent the character from prematurely investigating the corpse and machine? Seeing them off to the side as I do Sanguine's quest makes me want to poke around.
shankall Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 As soon as I enabled this, Ali came charging up to and agreed to follow my character. I haven't even started the Butcher or Sanguine quests. This quest is not related to the Sanguine quest and is independent from the Butcher. Ali should not show up by herself without you visiting the basement in Windhelm though... something is still messed up in initialization then. It is the first time you enable Alicia or did you try her before? Hey, I am experiencing the same bug in version 3.3, Ali randomly appears and starts following me. If i ask her to then follow me and then dismiss her via the "its time to part ways" dialogue nothing changes. From what i can remember this Ali doesn't seem to have the same (extra) dialogue options as if she was working normally. I have yet to start any of the Mod related quests or visit the basement in Windhelm. I have reverted back to a couple of earlier saves and after some in game time she still appears (usually after sleeping or waiting). I've re-installed and messed around with the load order (some times works) but she is still there.
Nivellen Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 Same here. She shows up immediately after loading 3.3. Butcher quest not started. I haven't even been to windhelm on said playthrough yet.
lorm42 Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 same here, even in a new game she immeadeatly join if i enter hellgate castle in the tutorial.
DeepBlueFrog Posted March 17, 2014 Author Posted March 17, 2014 If you have that problem with Ali following you at the start of a new game, do you have any enhanced follower mod like AFT, EFF or UFO? I didn't change anything on that side of the mod so I am surprised this is suddenly an issue. Trying to understand what is going on here...
Old Book Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 Aft here. That said, I've had AFT with previous versions of Alicia. Really liked the illustration in Sanguine's Lost Pages.
shankall Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 I'm using AFT. I've tried uninstalling AFT and starting a new game but she still appears.
RandomOne Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 Same issue and I use aft , never was a problem before.
traveller_phi Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 I had Ali appear to me too right after an upgrade. Her appearance was so unexpected and unusal (I haven't met her in either form legitimately yet) that for a split second I was wondering if Skyrim had suddenly become multiplayer on me. Reverted to 3.2 and reloaded the save and she did not appear.
ewin Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 If you have that problem with Ali following you at the start of a new game, do you have any enhanced follower mod like AFT, EFF or UFO? I didn't change anything on that side of the mod so I am surprised this is suddenly an issue. Trying to understand what is going on here... Same problem here i use AFT i disabled it and still she appears it's really annoying hope you can fix it
DeepBlueFrog Posted March 18, 2014 Author Posted March 18, 2014 I will have to take a look next week. I am away for the rest of the week. I have to say I am stumped. Nothing I changed in this version should be causing this to happen.
Guest Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 I have UFO and am having the same problem (why so many AFT users here? UFO is 10x easier and is compatible with near everything. If UFO is the real problem it will be a first for me)
Old Book Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 Finished my run through. I really liked the new illustrations in the books, and the added dialog. Thanks for continuing with Alicia. Are you thinking of doing more with her? Maybe a tie in with the Sisterhood of Dibella? That might offer and interesting redemption path for her Human self, and a chance for her possessed self to try to corrupt the sisters.
xboronx Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 Started a new game today too, also having the issue with Ali suddenly appearing. Took about 10 minutes playtime for her to find me with the left for dead start from alternate start, but when i found civilization, in this case riften, she suddenly appeared. Still using the follower limit increased minimod: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/36132/? Wild guessing, maybe the issue has always been around, because whenever i start a new game eventually in the alternate start starting location while making mcm adjustments for my various mods a comment appears "Your follower can't follow you here". So maybe Ali always tried that and now tries it again after failing when you leave the alternate start starting location.
Old Book Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 Took the now fully human Alicia to her sister in the temple of Dibella. It was nice to get a few lines of dialog from Agnes. Any chance of a reunion scene between the two of them?
xboronx Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 I chained Ali up now with o3ds bondage furniture, wondering what will happen when i eventually start the alicia quest and Ali should appear. Seemed the most elegant way to avoid downgrading the mod to me since simple stuff like trying to kill her via console command didn't work. I'll try to remember and report what happened when i start the quest normally in 1-2 weeks, don't plan to visit windhelm soon
DeepBlueFrog Posted March 19, 2014 Author Posted March 19, 2014 One thing I could try is make sure Ali is disabled until you actually meet Alicia for the first time.
Budroi Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 I'm having the same issue with Ali showing up before meeting her other half. Game is a complete fresh Install. i actually noticed the bug while i was still in Jail (live another life) I kept getting a notification that a follower cant follow me there. This was happening before i added EFF. (main page claims EFF incompatible, I disagree. I have only ever used EFF and i have never had any issues with Alicia or ALi, although after reading that it was incompatible i always use basic conversation follower commands instead of EFF commands. Aside from leaders teleport in case someone is stuck in a (random) mods crappy navmesh. Alastherium rings a bell) Had issue with previous build where after healing Alicia (put her back together) she dissapeared from my game. summon nor banish and resummon did not help she was always gone. had to console command (player.placeatme <alicia ID>) to get her back. She continued to work perfectly after that as well. On to current problem. The Ali that shows up follows the new rules you incorporated about no conversation options until after meeting Alicia. but she does follow the character wherever I go. thought for a while i had gotten her to go away. Used camper in woods start and she wasn't there. ran to helgen (blah blah) rescued hadvar. when the quest updated to leave the cave she spawned at entrance. made her follow me out in case she got stuck inside after cave collapses. then disbanded her. This all before i initialized EFF in load order. i then ran to levelers tower to sleep without potentially getting a disease. saved and quit after entering. Initialized EFF and loaded back in. Still no Ali. slept. woke up and she came running. basic dismiss and EFF dismiss do not work. although it was funny to watch her fling away when i left levelers tower (force field was on). I personally dont mind her following me. Ali/Alicia are staple companions anyway along with the whore from Dragon Break, Viconia and Vilja. I am more concerned that once i meet Alicia they will both be following me.
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