Karja Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 Hi all, I've been having an issue with skin textures breaking specifically on female characters. I'm not sure what is causing this issue but the texture will break the moment the SOS pubic hair is unequipped or when in character creation, it breaks if I alter the character's weight. I've backed out the mods I added since i noticed this issue, but it still persists. Any help is appreciated As long as the pubic hair is equipped it looks normal: The moment I put armor on her: Different angles cause weird lighting effects: Load order: (sorry its long as shit) Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm ccasvsse001-almsivi.esm ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm ccbgssse002-exoticarrows.esl ccbgssse003-zombies.esl ccbgssse004-ruinsedge.esl ccbgssse005-goldbrand.esl ccbgssse006-stendarshammer.esl ccbgssse007-chrysamere.esl ccbgssse010-petdwarvenarmoredmudcrab.esl ccbgssse011-hrsarmrelvn.esl ccbgssse012-hrsarmrstl.esl ccbgssse014-spellpack01.esl ccbgssse019-staffofsheogorath.esl ccbgssse020-graycowl.esl ccbgssse021-lordsmail.esl ccmtysse001-knightsofthenine.esl ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl cctwbsse001-puzzledungeon.esm cceejsse001-hstead.esm ccqdrsse002-firewood.esl ccbgssse018-shadowrend.esl ccbgssse035-petnhound.esl ccfsvsse001-backpacks.esl cceejsse002-tower.esl ccedhsse001-norjewel.esl ccvsvsse002-pets.esl ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl ccbgssse034-mntuni.esl ccbgssse045-hasedoki.esl ccbgssse008-wraithguard.esl ccbgssse036-petbwolf.esl ccffbsse001-imperialdragon.esl ccmtysse002-ve.esl ccbgssse043-crosselv.esl ccvsvsse001-winter.esl cceejsse003-hollow.esl ccbgssse016-umbra.esm ccbgssse031-advcyrus.esm ccbgssse038-bowofshadows.esl ccbgssse040-advobgobs.esl ccbgssse050-ba_daedric.esl ccbgssse052-ba_iron.esl ccbgssse054-ba_orcish.esl ccbgssse058-ba_steel.esl ccbgssse059-ba_dragonplate.esl ccbgssse061-ba_dwarven.esl ccpewsse002-armsofchaos.esl ccbgssse041-netchleather.esl ccedhsse002-splkntset.esl ccbgssse064-ba_elven.esl ccbgssse063-ba_ebony.esl ccbgssse062-ba_dwarvenmail.esl ccbgssse060-ba_dragonscale.esl ccbgssse056-ba_silver.esl ccbgssse055-ba_orcishscaled.esl ccbgssse053-ba_leather.esl ccbgssse051-ba_daedricmail.esl ccbgssse057-ba_stalhrim.esl ccbgssse066-staves.esl ccbgssse067-daedinv.esm ccbgssse068-bloodfall.esl ccbgssse069-contest.esl ccvsvsse003-necroarts.esl ccvsvsse004-beafarmer.esl ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm ccffbsse002-crossbowpack.esl ccbgssse013-dawnfang.esl ccrmssse001-necrohouse.esl ccedhsse003-redguard.esl cceejsse004-hall.esl cceejsse005-cave.esm cckrtsse001_altar.esl cccbhsse001-gaunt.esl ccafdsse001-dwesanctuary.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp Unofficial Saints and Seducers Patch.esl Unofficial Forgotten Seasons Patch.esl Unofficial Civil War Champions Patch.esl Unofficial Wild Horses Patch.esl Unofficial Dead Man's Dread Patch.esl Unofficial Myrwatch Patch.esl Unofficial Vigil Enforcer Armor Set Patch.esl Unofficial Saturalia Holiday Pack Patch.esl Unofficial Dawnfang and Duskfang Patch.esl Unofficial Tundra Homestead Patch.esl Unofficial Umbra Patch.esl Unofficial Steel Soldier Armor Patch.esl Unofficial Hendraheim Patch.esl Unofficial Expanded Crossbow Pack Patch.esl Unofficial Gray Cowl Returns Patch.esl Unofficial Rare Curios Patch.esl Unofficial Arcane Accessories Patch.esl Unofficial Daedric Mail Armor Patch.esl Unofficial Elite Crossbows Patch.esl Unofficial Nordic Jewelry Patch.esl Unofficial Spell Knight Armor Patch.esl Unofficial Arcane Archer Pack Patch.esl Unofficial Lord's Mail Patch.esl Unofficial Plague of the Dead Patch.esl Unofficial Shadowrend Patch.esl Unofficial Divine Crusader Patch.esl Unofficial Stendarr's Hammer Patch.esl Unofficial Sunder & Wraithguard Patch.esl Unofficial Elven Hunter Armor Patch.esl Unofficial Dwarven Mail Armor Patch.esl Unofficial Goblins Patch.esl Unofficial Staff of Sheogorath Patch.esl Unofficial Bone Wolf Patch.esl Unofficial Nix-Hound Patch.esl Unofficial Shadowfoot Sanctum Patch.esl Unofficial Ebony Plate Armor Patch.esl Unofficial Ruin's Edge Patch.esl Unofficial Arms of Chaos Patch.esl Unofficial Chrysamere Patch.esl Unofficial Dragonscale Armor Patch.esl Unofficial Netch Leather Armors Patch.esl Unofficial Pets of Skyrim Patch.esl Unofficial Staff of Hasedoki Patch.esl Unofficial Dwarven Armored Mudcrab Patch.esl Unofficial Skyrim Survival Patch.esl Unofficial Stalhrim Fur Armor Patch.esl Equippable ED Horns SSE.esp Vanilla Scripts Enhanced.esl [Dint999] BDOr_Guardian_Kharoxia Clothes.esl SexLab.esm Lux - 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27X Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 If it was a bad texture it would be blue. A bad nif is purple. That is your graphics card failing.
yorpers Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 This looks like what would happen if your femalebody_1_msn.dds was a plain black texture instead of a proper normal map. I'm not sure what is causing it.
GhostMeSenpai Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 If you have a monitor that isn't capable of G sync, or the AMD equivalent, and you have it turned on in the performance settings, you can get this effect. It's something to do with the monitor not being able to keep up with your GPU and this is the effect you get. Might be worth double checking
27X Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 It is none of those things. It is the rendering device being unable to load the texture because of its size or failing memory modules.
Karja Posted June 7, 2022 Author Posted June 7, 2022 7 hours ago, 27X said: If it was a bad texture it would be blue. A bad nif is purple. That is your graphics card failing. 3 hours ago, 27X said: It is none of those things. It is the rendering device being unable to load the texture because of its size or failing memory modules. It is definitely not. This is a mod conflict for sure. If it was a graphics failure issue, I wouldn't be able to easily switch between the textures working properly and not working in the same load out. the issue wouldn't be dependent on SOS loaded. Setting the clothing to revealing in SOS Corrects the issue: If this was graphics failure, loading more into the scene wouldn't correct the issue. if anything it would put more stress on the card.
27X Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 You haven't the faintest. Black textures in dx9-11 have very root causes and very direct solutions and they are quite mechanical in nature. You've been given three direct factual reasons for a possible cause, and none of them have anything to do with your load order. Two involve your card switching/reloading the textures and one involves the texture itself. Period.
Karja Posted June 7, 2022 Author Posted June 7, 2022 6 hours ago, yorpers said: This looks like what would happen if your femalebody_1_msn.dds was a plain black texture instead of a proper normal map. I'm not sure what is causing it. I noticed another post where they seem to be having a similar issue: Removing the pubic add-on didn't correct the issue like they suggested in that post.
Grey Cloud Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 Easy way to check if it is DX11 related is to play a different DX11 game. Personally, if the problem was only on your PC and only in RM character creation then I would not look at a hardware problem. Whenever I see black like that my initial reaction is memory. It is not a mod conflict. Edit: just realised you said whenever you put armour on your PC. So what armour? Any armour or a particular set. Does it happen outside of RM? Also, it is years since I used the SOS revealing armour feature - does it actually do anything to female armour/clothing?
Tlam99 Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 VRAM at the end, too many High res body textures. SOS not only loads pube but also the skin with it. If every of those additional followers got a own skin you need > 20gb vram.
yorpers Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 what female texture pack do you use? I wonder if you managed to download an uncompressed normal. The only thing I see wrong about VRAM issue is usually it would eat the diffuse texture turning your character pitch black instead of eating just the normal map. That is where an uncompressed normal comes into play. I would assume that the normal would get dumped then instead. An uncompressed normal that is 4096x4096 is about 85mb versus a compressed diffuse in 8192x8192 is also 85mb Some modders give an option for uncompressed normals for people to edit with, but people that don't know any better think uncompressed = higher quality so they actually use them in gameplay... This is what my character looks like with a black pane replacing the female normal map(looks like the same problem to you?), pretty sure its a VRAM issue like what was mentioned above. Or... somehow you managed to get some really funky file pathing somewhere. (file pathing is unlikely the issue since SOS doesn't change female body normalmaps, so it should ALWAYS be a problem or never) Hopefully I explained what I am trying to say well enough, I'm quite tired. Spoiler
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