GH0ST_RULE Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 Hello, I'm going to be in-depth about my situation as much as possible, so that way other people can understand. To clarify really fast, I am playing on SE non-AE. Hopefully this is the right forums- if not, please transfer me to the right one! I'll learn. For a quick explanation, I'm trying to make an evil character playthrough that sells slaves and is pretty much an overall horrible person. I had the urges to do this, and so I began downloading some slave mods + DD (Devious Devices) to make my experience a lot better. I don't usually go for evil playthroughs, but now I have the intense urges to do so to see what it's like! HOWEVER- some things have happened and I am beyond frustrated. I've been looking at other forums, like reddit, on here even- and a lot of other places too. Nothing could seem to answer my problem. (TL;DR): Evil character playthrough, mods not working. Now, to explain it thoroughly- I have installed ALL of the SE compatible mods for ZAZ and DD. I have CBBE and selected the correct options. I run Nemesis and FNIS, everything seems to be working except for a few slight errors that pop-up, which I'll be discussing in a brief moment. With ZAZ (Keep in mind, I tried downgrading ZAZ) I was at 8613 animations, I try to run both, doesn't work. I am trying to run Public Whore and Simple Slavery++ with DD and ZAZ. I am also not nearing my plugin limit either, as I have enough room for about 40 more mods in the .esp category. As for computer specs, I have a G15 Ryzen with AMD, 16GB worth of ram, and NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX. I should be able to run a lot of animations, as this computer was built to run high-demanding games. As for the errors that are popping up, I am getting a notable error that keeps popping up in Nemesis. What's weird is that I can't even access those folders, even though I have hidden folders to be visible. Spoiler Is there anyway that anyone can help??? I've been trying to follow the recommendations, and listening to what to do. Nothing seems to be working. I don't expect fast replies on this, just whenever you can. It's been beating me up for the past 3 hours. Here's my mod list if you're wondering. Spoiler 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm 254 FE 0 ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl 254 FE 1 ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl 6 6 ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm 7 7 RSkyrimChildren.esm 8 8 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 9 9 ETaC - RESOURCES.esm 10 a Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm 11 b LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm 12 c 3DNPC.esp 13 d RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm 14 e LvxMagick - Boats.esm 15 f DreadPrison.esp 16 10 Campfire.esm 17 11 FISS.esp 254 FE 2 Get Out Of My Way.esl 254 FE 3 SmoothCam.esl 254 FE 4 Beards of Power.esp 18 12 Falskaar.esm 19 13 JSwordsD.esm 254 FE 5 WH_Axe-Knife.esl 20 14 ZaZAnimationPack.esm 21 15 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm 22 16 wyrmstooth.esp 23 17 SexLab.esm 24 18 SexLabAroused.esm 25 19 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 26 1a Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm 27 1b Devious Devices - Assets.esm 28 1c Devious Devices - Integration.esm 29 1d Devious Devices - Expansion.esm 30 1e Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm 31 1f SkyUI_SE.esp 32 20 Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp 33 21 Obsidian Weathers.esp 34 22 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp 35 23 Ducks and Swans.esp 36 24 Immersive Movement.esp 37 25 Mortal Enemies - No RunWalk Changes.esp 254 FE 6 3DNPC0.esp 38 26 AMatterOfTime.esp 254 FE 7 aMidianBorn_Book of Silence.esp 39 27 S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp 40 28 ETaC - Complete.esp 41 29 DepthsOfSkyrim.esp 42 2a ArgonianFins.esp 43 2b dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp 44 2c ArrowBlock.esp 45 2d Arvak Oblivion horse.esp 46 2e Backshields.esp 47 2f BackShield Compatibility Patch WIFollowerCommentFaction.esp 254 FE 8 BeastHHBB.esp 254 FE 9 Conditional Expressions.esp 48 30 dD-Larger Drips.esp 49 31 DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp 50 32 Durnehviir God of Death.esp 254 FE a EVGConditionalIdles.esp 51 33 FNIS.esp 52 34 Footprints.esp 254 FE b Footprints - ENB.esp 53 35 getSnowy.esp 54 36 getSnowy_ObsidianWeathers_Patch.esp 55 37 Hellish Hounds.esp 56 38 Hoamaii_SkyrimKiss.esp 57 39 IHSS.esp 58 3a ImmersiveLoversComfort.esp 254 FE c KSHairdosSMP.esp 59 3b Louder Nature - Birds and Insects.esp 254 FE d MCMHelper.esp 60 3c NB-Scars.esp 61 3d UltimateCombat.esp 62 3e NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp 63 3f Oblivion Horses.esp 64 40 PersonalWeddingGuests.esp 65 41 RaceMenu.esp 66 42 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 67 43 Realistic-Voice.esp 68 44 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x10.esp 254 FE e RSC 3DNPC Patch.esp 69 45 SkyHUD.esp 254 FE f Skyrim Snow Dogs.esp 70 46 TakeNotes.esp 71 47 TheEyesOfBeauty.esp 72 48 TKDodge.esp 254 FE 10 TrueDirectionalMovement.esp 73 49 UltimateCombatSekiro.esp 74 4a VioLens SE.esp 75 4b XPMSE.esp 254 FE 11 LandingStop.esp 76 4c Medieval Lanterns of Skyrim.esp 77 4d Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp 78 4e AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp 79 4f Immersive Weapons.esp 254 FE 12 GDOS - Splendid Mechanized Dwemer Door.esp 80 50 Beards of Power HDT-SMP.esp 254 FE 13 DBM_RSChildren_Patch.esp 254 FE 14 DBM_SMIM_Patch.esp 254 FE 15 Sleeping Expanded.esp 81 51 CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp 82 52 CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp 83 53 CommunityOverlays3.esp 84 54 BecomeAVampire.esp 85 55 HearthfireNoMaterials.esp 86 56 Friendlier Taverns.esp 87 57 AI Overhaul.esp 88 58 Cutting Room Floor.esp 89 59 MysticismMagic.esp 90 5a TW3MO.esp 91 5b MoreBanditCamps.esp 92 5c Khash The Argonian.esp 93 5d Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp 94 5e SeranaDialogAddon.esp 95 5f ETaC - Complete Medieval Lanterns Patch.esp 96 60 GA88.esp 97 61 Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp 98 62 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp 99 63 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp 100 64 Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp 101 65 WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp 102 66 HearthfireMultiKid.esp 103 67 hearthfireextended.esp 104 68 Point The Way.esp 105 69 khajiit caravan kittens.esp 254 FE 16 Immersive Weapons_WACCF_Patch.esp 106 6a Dovahsil 2.2.esp 107 6b Holidays.esp 254 FE 17 SeagullsofSkyrim.esp 108 6c EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp 109 6d Project ja-Kha'jay- Khajiit Diversity.esp 110 6e JKJ - 3DNPC.esp 111 6f ETaC - Complete No Snow Patch.esp 112 70 Thieves Guild Requirements.esp 113 71 MVF1FollowerBeta.esp 114 72 KhajiitWillFollow.esp 115 73 FarmBirds.esp 116 74 argonian hatchlings.esp 117 75 Deviously Cursed Loot.esp 118 76 SkyrimSewers.esp 119 77 CFTO.esp 120 78 Run For Your Lives.esp 121 79 Cloaks.esp 122 7a Inigo.esp 123 7b WindstadMine.esp 124 7c FlyingCrowsSSE.esp 125 7d chfshPlayerVoicesets.esp 126 7e NorthernCardinal.esp 127 7f Trees in Cities.esp 128 80 DivineCloaks.esp 254 FE 18 Here to Help.esp 129 81 FloatingSwordFollower.esp 130 82 Public Whore.esp 131 83 MiraakFollower.esp 132 84 DG Alternate Route.esp 133 85 Hold Riders.esp 254 FE 19 DBM_IW_Patch.esp 134 86 ssGWAltmerFollower.esp 135 87 DSerCombatGameplayOverhaul.esp 136 88 Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp 137 89 AZ Argonian & Khajiit Vampire No Color Change.esp 138 8a CBBE.esp 139 8b Refined Volkihars.esp 140 8c rings2hands.esp 141 8d AnimalPajama by keung.esp 142 8e FasterSwingingGreatswords.esp 143 8f Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp 254 FE 1a RSC CRF Patch.esp 144 90 RSChildren.esp 254 FE 1b Vanilla Hair Replacer - VHR - BIB.esp 254 FE 1c JSwords-ImmersiveWeaponsPatch.esp 145 91 Recorder Follower Base.esp 254 FE 1d DBM_JaysusSwords_Patch.esp 254 FE 1e DBM_CloaksofSkyrim_Patch.esp 146 92 SimpleSlavery.esp 147 93 Drinking Fountains of Skyrim for SSE.esp 254 FE 1f ETaC - Complete CFTO Patch.esp 254 FE 20 mihailpigeon.esp 254 FE 21 DBM_CRF_Patch.esp 254 FE 22 mihailhousecat.esp 148 94 notice board.esp 254 FE 23 ETaC - Complete S3D Trees Patch.esp 149 95 ForgottenCity.esp 150 96 Paragliding.esp 151 97 Sneak Tools.esp 254 FE 24 ETaC - Complete AI Overhaul Patch.esp 152 98 Missives.esp 153 99 SpousesEnhancedSE.esp 254 FE 25 No Snow Under The Roof - CRF Patch.esp 254 FE 26 DBM_S3DTrees_Patch.esp 154 9a The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp 254 FE 27 DBM_NoticeBoard_Patch.esp 155 9b knightofmolagbalv2_lagrie.esp 156 9c robertthereapernpc.esp 254 FE 28 DBM_Wyrmstooth_Patch.esp 157 9d DoveFollower.esp 254 FE 29 DBM_Missives_Patch.esp 254 FE 2a The Notice Board SMIM Ropes Fix.esp 158 9e KWFPatch_FC.esp 254 FE 2b DBM_ForgottenCity_Patch.esp 254 FE 2c DBM_IA_Patch.esp 159 9f lucien.esp 160 a0 CFTO-Lanterns.esp 254 FE 2d DBM_DepthsofSkyrim_Patch.esp 161 a1 ebony_arhchmage_lagrie.esp 162 a2 moonpath.esp 254 FE 2e DBM_Moonpath_Patch.esp 254 FE 2f DBM_SkyrimSewers_Patch.esp 163 a3 CFTO-CoveredCarriages.esp 164 a4 Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp 254 FE 30 ArgonianHatchlingsClothes.esp 254 FE 31 Vision of Skyrim.esp 165 a5 Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 166 a6 Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp 254 FE 32 Cloaks_SMP_Patch.esp 254 FE 33 Complete NPC Overhaul - Argonians.esp 254 FE 34 CNPCO Argonians - CRF Patch.esp 167 a7 DarkwaterDerkeethus.esp 168 a8 Derkeethus Improved SE - Vanilla.esp 169 a9 Veezara.esp 170 aa Dr_Bandolier.esp 171 ab HavenBag.esp 172 ac RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp 254 FE 35 iWant RND for CACO with Hearthfire Wells.esp 173 ad Iron-ScalesAndCinder-TailBeastRaceFollowers.esp 174 ae My_Little_hatchling.esp 175 af PrettyKhajiit.esp 176 b0 SprintSlide.esp 177 b1 WedDialogueFix.esp 178 b2 P1FlyingRing.esp 254 FE 36 FloatingSwordFollower_LODPatch.esp 254 FE 37 DBM_TreesinCities_Patch.esp 179 b3 link's armor variation pack.esp 180 b4 Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp 181 b5 1nivWICCloaks.esp 182 b6 WetandCold.esp 183 b7 getSnowy_WnC-Ashes Patch.esp 184 b8 HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp 185 b9 ImprovedHearthfireLighting.esp 186 ba LadyLaceCloaks_EN.esp 187 bb White Shiny White Daedric Armor.esp 188 bc Blindfolds_of_Skyrim.esp 254 FE 38 BlindfoldsforNPCs.esp 189 bd TailArmors.esp 254 FE 39 Cloaks_ACE_Patch.esp 254 FE 3a Cloaks_WACCF_Patch.esp 190 be TERAArmorsSSE.esp 254 FE 3b Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation_WACCF_Patch.esp 254 FE 3c Survival Mode Patches - Wet and Cold.esp 254 FE 3d SurvivalModeImproved.esp 191 bf imp_helm_legend.esp 254 FE 3e imp_helm_legend_WACCF_Patch.esp WACCF_Survival Mode_Patch.esp 254 FE 3f SurvivalMode-USSEP-Patch.esp 254 FE 40 Survival Mode Patches - Cloaks Of Skyrim.esp 254 FE 41 Survival Mode Patches - Campfire.esp 192 c0 WadeInWater.esp 193 c1 Hellblade - Timed Block.esp 194 c2 No Magic Ninja Dodge - No DLC.esp 254 FE 42 Disable NPC stretching idle.esp 254 FE 43 CounterDamage.esp 254 FE 44 Dirt and Blood - Dynamic Visuals.esp 254 FE 45 Dirt and Blood - Shader Tweak.esp 195 c3 ETaC - Complete RSC Patch.esp 196 c4 HFE-CFTO-Patch.esp 197 c5 Shiva's Vanilla Clothing Replacer.esp 1nivWICCloaks_SMP_Patch.esp Apachii_DES_SMP_Patch.esp LadyLaceCloaks_EN_SMP_Patch.esp 198 c6 Wooden Frame Packs.esp 199 c7 SLAnimLoader.esp 200 c8 SexLab Extra Voices.esp 201 c9 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 202 ca SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp 203 cb SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp 204 cc SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 205 cd SexLabMatchMaker.esp 206 ce Skyrim_Strap_Ons.esp 207 cf RaceMenuHH.esp 254 FE 46 [Caenarvon] Spindrift Knight.esp 208 d0 Cloaks&Capes SMP.esp 209 d1 Attraction.esp 254 FE 47 OnlySameSexMarriage.esp 210 d2 FemaleUlfric.esp 211 d3 Masque of Argonian & Khajiit.esp 212 d4 ArgEye.esp 213 d5 FAO.esp 214 d6 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp 215 d7 Cumshot.esp 254 FE 48 CumshotSL.esp 216 d8 Tainted_Blood.esp 217 d9 SexLabDefeat.esp 254 FE 49 ImmersiveAnimatedLooting.esp 218 da ImmersiveInteractions.esp 254 FE 4a Animated Wings Ultimate.esp 219 db SLAL_K4Anims.esp 220 dc Devious Devices - Equip.esp 221 dd Devious Devices For Him.esp 222 de Devious Devices - BRRF.esp 254 FE 4b Devious Devices SE patch.esp 254 FE 4c DD - BRRF_Patch - Cursed Loot.esp 254 FE 4d DD - BRRF_Patch - Equip.esp 223 df mslDeviousCaptures.esp 224 e0 Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp 225 e1 iWant RND for CACO.esp 254 FE 4e iWant RND for CACO with Drinking Fountains.esp 254 FE 4f CACO Rare Curios Patch.esp 254 FE 50 CACO_Falskaar_Patch.esp 254 FE 51 iWant RND for CACO with Falskaar.esp 254 FE 52 CACO_Wyrmstooth_Patch.esp 254 FE 53 iWant RND for CACO with Wyrmstooth.esp 254 FE 54 CACO_Moonpath_Patch.esp 254 FE 55 CACO_Saints&Seducers.esp 254 FE 56 CACO_Survival Mode_Patch.esp 226 e2 PatronGodsOfSkyrim.esp CACO_USSEP_Patch.esp 254 FE 57 Inigo_CACO_Patch.esp 254 FE 58 PatronGodsOfSkyrim_CACO_Patch.esp 227 e3 Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp 254 FE 59 CACO_Ordinator_Patch.esp 254 FE 5a Ordinator_WACCF_Patch.esp 228 e4 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp 254 FE 5b Sacrosanct_CACO_Patch.esp 254 FE 5c iWant RND for CACO with Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp 229 e5 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 230 e6 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp 231 e7 Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp 232 e8 ELE_SSE.esp 233 e9 ENB Light.esp 234 ea RealisticWaterTwo.esp 254 FE 5d iWant RND for CACO with Realistic Water Two.esp 254 FE 5e RealisticWaterTwo - Alt Volcanic Watercolor.esp 235 eb WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp 236 ec IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp 254 FE 5f AQWMP_ELE_Patch.esp 254 FE 60 AQWMP_AMM_Patch.esp 254 FE 61 AQWMP_RWT_Patch.esp 237 ed Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp Thank you so much for taking the time to read all of this. (EDIT: 1/9/2022, 4:17AM) I have tried disabling all of my other animation mods, and it still doesn't work. It appears that ZAZ and DD seem to be the main culprits, as I haven't had any other problems with sex mechanics/animations in my game until now.
chevalierx Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 fins xxl version ? what version of ZAZ and DD zaz 8+ and dd 5.2 have huge animations counts unless mod need zaz 8+ , use zaz 7 and wow i have game 50 go and only 40 mods and others not count ( as esp for texture bsa) in NMM
GH0ST_RULE Posted January 9, 2022 Author Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, chevalierx said: fins xxl version ? what version of ZAZ and DD zaz 8+ and dd 5.2 have huge animations counts unless mod need zaz 8+ , use zaz 7 and wow i have game 50 go and only 40 mods and others not count ( as esp for texture bsa) in NMM Didn't know something like that existed for FNIS, woops. That was the first time I heard about it. Will look into it. ZAZ is 8.0+ and DD is all the up-to-date versions for SE. Also tried ZAZ 7, it didn't work either. Giving updates to FNIS XXL version when I get my hands on it- I must've been blind to not see that lol
GH0ST_RULE Posted January 9, 2022 Author Posted January 9, 2022 UPDATE: It didn't work. Tried running FNIS XXL by itself without Nemesis, and it still didn't work. I also tried using Nemesis afterward on another attempt to launch the game, and it still didn't work either.
chevalierx Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 26 minutes ago, GH0ST_RULE said: Hide contents the answer is her 32bits hkx you are using Le defeat mod in SSE you need change all old /compatible mods in game to SSe version that exist in download section why you r using both nemesis and fnis ? poste fnis genration tools message
chevalierx Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, GH0ST_RULE said: UPDATE: It didn't work. Tried running FNIS XXL by itself without Nemesis, and it still didn't work. I also tried using Nemesis afterward on another attempt to launch the game, and it still didn't work either. what is not working ? game not launch , or animation not working ?
GH0ST_RULE Posted January 9, 2022 Author Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, chevalierx said: the answer is her 32bits hkx you are using Le defeat mod in SSE you need change all old /compatible mods in game to SSe version that exist in download section why you r using both nemesis and fnis ? poste fnis genration tools message I am? I could've sworn that I downloaded the SE version. I'll go on ahead and delete the file then and try to download it again. I'm also using Nemesis and FNIS because I like the extra compatibility to see if I could fix any bugs in animation-wise. Not only that, Nemesis is still in development and is still getting updated to this day, which is why I use both. It's weird, especially of how I'm explaining it- but that's just my preference. Nothing bad happened with using both, so I'm going to keep doing it. I am also fully aware that the flying rings has outdated files, the creator and other users have said to keep using it, since it doesn't really change or hurt anything. Here are the screenshots that I have gathered for the FNIS tools. Spoiler
GH0ST_RULE Posted January 9, 2022 Author Posted January 9, 2022 UPDATE: Thank you guys! I didn't realize that I got the wrong version. Even though it came up as SSE. ? Anyway, thank you!! If people are reading this in the future, please know that it may not be the animations- it could just be a wrong version! Thank you again.
t.ara Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 About your thread´s content: ZAZ ZAZ is no mod here on LL-you want to say ZAP which is a framework for some restraint-assets and new furnitures, depending on the version with different endless new functions. Only is the stuff working ideal with the original SKYRIM and not running under SE. I did not create a version for SE and so it may happen, that you use an incompatible version for SE, which has been converted by an automated conversion-routine. Anyway can´t the ZAP 8 or higher been made compatible to SE because the technical definitions for SKYRIM differ too much from SKYRIM SE. Those conversions of mods which use assets, which are made with more dephs of technical challenges can not being converted without getting issures under SE. ZAP 8 and higher can not properly being used inside of SKYRIM SE, same is for ZAP 7 and HERETICAL RESOURCES. If such mods like to be overtaken into SE, the technical preconditions have to be prepared inside of SE. There ´s even no compatible version of SKYRIM ´s sexLab for SE available, Some animations of ZAP are maybe not compatible for SE, specially those, which have been created compressed compressed (V.7), which means that this animations have to be converted. ZAP 8 and higher is built on animation-idles, which work inside both skyrim versions, excepted those files, which I did not do by myself (ZAP 7-animations). As far I can suggest I ´d only use one animation-hack and not both together. This can be done but it will complicate the setup of modding for the game once more. Instable setups can occure also by USING mods, which permanently do cause CTD or crashes. Sadly is there a HUGE amount of them available, specially those of them, which you would not guess. One of them are the WEATHER and CLIMATIC changers. Also can ADD-ITEM-MENU collidate SADLY with some few other mods to produce a crash by opening AIM then, for a choose for an asset. Frameworks like DD can be tricky to be working ideal and you have carefully to read the GUIDE for DD and about the experiences of many users, which use this mod.
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