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Twist1256

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So long story short every time I load out into Skyrim or any cell  not listing in ALT life for starting areas I CTD, also all the guy characters in my game have a weird black underwear mesh on  I'vee reinstalled it but its still there.

 

Here's my load order

 

  0  0     Skyrim.esm
  1  1     Update.esm
  2  2     Dawnguard.esm
  3  3     HearthFires.esm
  4  4     Dragonborn.esm
  5  5     Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
  6  6     ApachiiHair.esm
  7  7     hdtHighHeel.esm
  8  8     SexLab.esm
  9  9     SexLabAroused.esm
 10  a     ZaZAnimationPack.esm
 11  b     Devious Devices - Assets.esm
 12  c     CreatureFramework.esm
 13  d     PamaPrisonAlternative.esm
 14  e     Heels Sound.esm
 15  f     Devious Devices - Integration.esm
 16 10     Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
 17 11     High Poly Head.esm
 18 12     RaceCompatibility.esm
 19 13     Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
 20 14     Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
 21 15     HighResTexturePack01.esp
 22 16     HighResTexturePack02.esp
 23 17     HighResTexturePack03.esp
 24 18     FISS.esp
 25 19     Immersive Arousal.esp
 26 1a     SexLabMatchMaker.esp
 27 1b     SexLabDefeat.esp
 28 1c     RaceMenu.esp
 29 1d     RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 30 1e     nem-e5i5's RaceMenuPlugin.esp
 31 1f     UIExtensions.esp
 32 20     SkyUI.esp
 33 21     SkyrimConfigMenu.esp
 34 22     Daedric Extra Armor.esp
 35 23     Dovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons CBBE.esp
 36 24     Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
 37 25     InigoPerkPointGiver.esp
 38 26     Remodeled Armor - Dragonborn.esp
 39 27     Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp
 40 28     RichMerchants.esp
 41 29     SOSRaceMenu.esp
 42 2a     dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
 43 2b     dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp
 44 2c     zzEstrus.esp
 45 2d     Skill Config.esp
 46 2e     Brows.esp
 47 2f     SGEyebrows.esp
 48 30     The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp
 49 31     BHWarPaints.esp
 50 32     BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp
 51 33     LunariRace.esp
 52 34     The Ningheim.esp
 53 35     ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
 54 36     FNIS.esp
 55 37     RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
 56 38     SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
 57 39     SLSO.esp
 58 3a     SLAdventures.esp
 59 3b     KS Hairdo's.esp
 60 3c     Private Needs Discreet.esp
 61 3d     Eyes of Aber.esp
 62 3e     RLO - Interiors.esp
 63 3f     Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
 64 40     RealisticWaterTwo.esp
 65 41     Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
 66 42     RLO - Exteriors.esp
 67 43     BirdsHF.esp
 68 44     SexLab-Stories.esp
 69 45     SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
 70 46     Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
 71 47     MoreNastyCritters.esp
 72 48     SexLab-Parasites.esp
 73 49     Killable Children.esp
 74 4a     Killable Children - Quest Important Protected.esp
 75 4b     dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
 76 4c     EstrusChaurus.esp
 77 4d     HDT Havok Object.esp
 78 4e     Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
 79 4f     Immersive Weapons.esp
 80 50     SnoipehMoreCreatures.esp
 81 51     Remodeled Armor - Dawnguard.esp
 82 52     SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp
 83 53     sanguinesDebauchery.esp
 84 54     UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp
 85 55     SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
 86 56     RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
 87 57     SexLab Beastess.esp
 88 58     SexLab_Dialogues.esp
 89 59     Skinny-Dip Skyrim SL.esp
 90 5a     Hearthfire Cheat Chests.esp
 91 5b     Quest Rewards.esp
 92 5c     DeadlyMutilation.esp
 93 5d     Bijin AIO.esp
 94 5e     Bijin Warmaidens.esp
 95 5f     Bijin NPCs.esp
 96 60     ReAnimate.esp
 97 61     ContinueGameNoCrash.esp
 98 62     KJ Tattoos 4K.esp
 99 63     Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
100 64     TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp
101 65     SimpleSlavery.esp
102 66     PrisonAlternative_Executions_WindHelm.esp
103 67     Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
104 68     SOS - Shop.esp
105 69     SexLab Approach.esp
106 6a     TemptressVixen.esp
107 6b     SuccubusRaceLite.esp
108 6c     HentaiCreatures.esp
109 6d     CraftingSupplies_AIO_ALL.esp
110 6e     FNISspells.esp
111 6f     Davjes_SorceressArmorHHS.esp
112 70     Beastess Vampire.esp
113 71     Serana.esp
114 72     Alex's Ume - A Standalone Voiced Companion.esp
115 73     Bijin Wives.esp
116 74     C5Kev's Animated Tentacle Parasite Armor CBBE HS.esp
117 75     NoOverpenetration.esp
118 76     sr_FillHerUp.esp
119 77     Expressive Facegen Morphs.esp
120 78     TAWoBA_Rebalance.esp
121 79     CommunityOverlays1_0T30.esp
122 7a     SLATE.esp
123 7b     SlaveTats.esp
124 7c     SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp
125 7d     SLAnimLoader.esp
126 7e     SLALAnimObj.esp
127 7f     AddItemMenuLE.esp
128 80     Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp
129 81     EmpyreanWarpaints.esp
130 82     FMS_FemaleMakeupSuite.esp
131 83     dvmb.esp
132 84     XPMSE.esp
133 85     TheCoenaculiCBBE.esp
134 86     NibblesAnimObjects.esp
135 87     [Dint999] KSH's HDT.esp
136 88     FreckleMania.esp
137 89     FreckleMania2.esp
138 8a     RDO - UFO v1.2i Patch.esp
139 8b     RDO - USLEEP Patch.esp
140 8c     SD Patches.esp
141 8d     Animated Dragon Wings.esp
142 8e     [dint999] HairPack.esp
143 8f     SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
144 90     EstrusDwemer.esp
145 91     EstrusSpider.esp
146 92     CommunityOverlays2_31T50.esp
147 93     Apropos.esp
148 94     AnubAnimObj.esp
149 95     PsycheAnimationObjects.esp
150 96     DW.esp
151 97     SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
152 98     NCK30Obj.esp
153 99     RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
154 9a     ScarletDawnArmor.esp
155 9b     Tembtra Thief Armor.esp
156 9c     Vivid Weathers.esp
157 9d     Vivid Weathers - Extended Snow.esp
158 9e     Vivid Weathers - Extended Rain.esp
159 9f     Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp
160 a0     DX Daughter of the Sea.esp
161 a1     TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
162 a2     DX Necromancer Robes.esp
163 a3     Merta Assassin Armor.esp
164 a4     Demon Armor UNP LE.esp
165 a5     Cassandra Apocrypha Robes UNP LE.esp
166 a6     RLO - Effects.esp
167 a7     RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp
168 a8     12FemaleBrows.esp
169 a9     SexLab Strapon.esp
170 aa     P1FlyingRing.esp
171 ab     Remodeled Armor.esp
172 ac     SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
173 ad     SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
174 ae     SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
175 af     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
176 b0     MoreDeviousStarts.esp
177 b1     ELE_Legendary_Lite.esp
 

any help or guidance would be extremely appreciated. 

Posted
38 minutes ago, Twist1256 said:

So long story short every time I load out into Skyrim or any cell  not listing in ALT life for starting areas I CTD

Not sure what that means.

Are you starting your game in LAL?

 

39 minutes ago, Twist1256 said:

also all the guy characters in my game have a weird black underwear mesh

Do you use any male texture replacer that is incompatible with SOS?

Just in case: don't overwrite XPMSE with SOS, even better: don't install the SOS skeleton.

Did you choose the non naked version in SOS FOMOD (not sure if that option even exists ^^)

Posted

So the starting places it puts you in LAL loads fine  but when I step out into Skyrim i.e. leaving that initial cell I just CTD and to answer the second question now I just have the AIO pussy mod and SOS full edition which thee AIO requires the SOS to be installed.  Also I've ran it through loot nothing seems wrong, but I am using the outdated NMM I wanna switch to MO2 I just don't want to redownload everything. 

Posted
6 minutes ago, Twist1256 said:

NMM

NMM doesn't have an effect on user error.

 

7 minutes ago, Twist1256 said:

So the starting places it puts you in LAL loads fine  but when I step out into Skyrim i.e. leaving that initial cell I just CTD

Are you using an ENB or ENBoost?

 

1 hour ago, Twist1256 said:

MoreDeviousStarts.esp

Are you using that with DD4.3?

It needs DD5.1, if it's the mod version I think it is.

 

 

Posted
8 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Are you using an ENB or ENBoost?

No I removed the ENB files and started a clean save.

 

9 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

Are you using that with DD4.3?

It needs DD5.1, if it's the mod version I think it is.

 Everything should be up-to-date I check weekly for new versions 

Posted
37 minutes ago, Twist1256 said:

No I removed the ENB files and started a clean save.

 

 Everything should be up-to-date I check weekly for new versions 

DD 5.1 has it's own download page and comes with more plugins as I see in your LO, that's why I ask.

If you use

you will need to update to

 

Posted
26 minutes ago, Twist1256 said:

No I removed the ENB files and started a clean save.

Which files did you remove? If you removed all the files because you wanted to get rid of the ENB (the preset) and you didn't switch to ENBoost then that will likely be a factor in your CTD problems

Posted
21 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Which files did you remove? If you removed all the files because you wanted to get rid of the ENB (the preset) and you didn't switch to ENBoost then that will likely be a factor in your CTD problems

 

30 minutes ago, donttouchmethere said:

DD 5.1 has it's own download page and comes with more plugins as I see in your LO, that's why I ask.

If you use

you will need to update to

 

Fixed it I forgot one file on Realistic water two it still had it's enb files attached. Also ty for the files I thought everything was up-to-date.

Posted
2 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

I hate it if water does that ?

Good find.

Actually it worked for about an hour then EBT started to cause black boxes for textures and it just started crashing after 2-5 minutes with the character being in the open world. So I’m going with the nuclear option. I’m uninstalling all the mods deleting everything and reinstalling the game working from the ground up. Wish me luck lol

Posted
41 minutes ago, Twist1256 said:

EBT

Damn you EBT! (what is that again?)

41 minutes ago, Twist1256 said:

it just started crashing after 2-5 minutes

well at least you fixed the CTD after LAL right? ^^

 

42 minutes ago, Twist1256 said:

Wish me luck lol

I will, I will ??

Posted
5 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

Egg, bacon and tomato? Missing the sausage plug-in.

I love AIO-EBT-S! ?

So rare here, I wonder why.

 

But now I remember what EBT is and it might be the reason for the SOS problem?

15 hours ago, Twist1256 said:

 42 2a     dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

 

 

Posted
12 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

I love AIO-EBT-S! ?

So rare here, I wonder why.

 

But now I remember what EBT is and it might be the reason for the SOS problem?

 

 

Really the blood mod might be the issue? I haven’t nuked it yet I’ll disable it and give that a try.

Posted
18 minutes ago, Twist1256 said:

Really the blood mod might be the issue? I haven’t nuked it yet I’ll disable it and give that a try.

Make a test. I remember it made issues with SOS, but it might be only one plugin of EBT that maybe overwrites the schlong texture?

Never tried EBT myself so I just repeat what I have read in tech support.

 

Posted

Fair enough I’ll test it out tomorrow

1 hour ago, donttouchmethere said:

Make a test. I remember it made issues with SOS, but it might be only one plugin of EBT that maybe overwrites the schlong texture?

Never tried EBT myself so I just repeat what I have read in tech support.

 

 

Posted
On 10/27/2021 at 10:59 PM, donttouchmethere said:

Make a test. I remember it made issues with SOS, but it might be only one plugin of EBT that maybe overwrites the schlong texture?

Never tried EBT myself so I just repeat what I have read in tech support.

 

Whelp i'm back to the nuke option as soon as i load out of LAL i ctd

Posted
4 hours ago, Twist1256 said:

Whelp i'm back to the nuke option as soon as i load out of LAL i ctd

It's hard to see all the changes you did to your game that makes it so unstable from the outside.

If you lost any overview over what you manipulated, nuking is the way to go.

 

What you could check is:

  • leftovers of your ENB experiment? Did you remove all files related to the last installed ENB?
  • after removal of mods you still have other mods installed that where patched for the removed mods (for example during FOMOD install)
  • you installed something manually and forgot about it
  • skyrim and skyrimpref config files are still configured to your ENB, you can run BethINI to repair those
  • you changed your ENB to ENBoost configuration but still have an ENB preset installed and also enblocal.ini isn't configured right
  • no skse.ini and no crash fix installed
  • crash fixes configured wrong
  • you only deactivated mods in NMM instead of uninstalling them if not needed anymore
  • you forgot what mod files you overwrote during mod installation or never cared and now it hunts you (for example, PapyrusUtil, XPMSE...)

 

Hey just saw this one:

On 10/27/2021 at 12:38 AM, Twist1256 said:

nem-e5i5's RaceMenuPlugin.esp

Why do you need XMPS sliders if you use XPMSE?

 

On 10/27/2021 at 12:38 AM, Twist1256 said:

107 6b     SuccubusRaceLite.esp

You also use multiple custom races, might want to try only one first.

 

On 10/27/2021 at 12:38 AM, Twist1256 said:

159 9f     Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB - Flame Atronach Fix.esp

always good to have without any ENB

 

 

Posted

In addition: How do you test your game after removal of mods? Do you wait for all mods to load or just rush into Skyrim and hope for the best?

 

On 10/27/2021 at 12:38 AM, Twist1256 said:

176 b0     MoreDeviousStarts.esp

This will still make your game unstable if DDaix doesn't get updated.

Posted

If you want to do a lot of experiments while also keep a working game maybe now would be a good time to change to MO?

More possible ways to mess up but helpful in the long run for experiments.

NMM limits you to one profile (more profiles are possible, but not ideal with NMM, because it writes directly in skyrim/data).

NMM also forces you to know why you install what and remember what you overwrote and why.

 

Posted
17 hours ago, donttouchmethere said:

If you want to do a lot of experiments while also keep a working game maybe now would be a good time to change to MO?

More possible ways to mess up but helpful in the long run for experiments.

NMM limits you to one profile (more profiles are possible, but not ideal with NMM, because it writes directly in skyrim/data).

NMM also forces you to know why you install what and remember what you overwrote and why.

 

Yea I’m gonna kill off three of the races I never play them. Also it could be that extra enb file I didn’t notice. I did run bethini and manually removed the enb files then re-verified files in case I deleted any core files. I wait for about 45 mins in LAL starting area before I step out.

Posted
4 hours ago, Twist1256 said:

Also it could be that extra enb file I didn’t notice.

It's always that one file.

What you could do is to check what files you installed for your ENB (guess you have still the zip related to the ENB) and search in Skyrim folder for those with the file explorer.

 

4 hours ago, Twist1256 said:

. I wait for about 45 mins in LAL starting area before I step out.

You wait that long? You mean like just standing there in LAL and wait 45min? ?

 

Usually it's enough if you wait until no more mod messages show up on screen, then save and reload, wait again until all mods updated and your good to go (for a test without too much MCM manipulation).

 

 

Posted
On 10/30/2021 at 3:10 AM, donttouchmethere said:

It's always that one file.

What you could do is to check what files you installed for your ENB (guess you have still the zip related to the ENB) and search in Skyrim folder for those with the file explorer.

 

You wait that long? You mean like just standing there in LAL and wait 45min? ?

 

Usually it's enough if you wait until no more mod messages show up on screen, then save and reload, wait again until all mods updated and your good to go (for a test without too much MCM manipulation).

 

 

Yea I usually wait I’m always doing something so it’s nice to let it load even if it takes extra time. I’ve already nuked it so I’m going back through and redoing some mods. Is AIO viable or should I just switch to using each individual mod related to it?

Posted
17 minutes ago, Twist1256 said:

I’ve already nuked it

beware the fallout!

Spoiler

Radiation

 

17 minutes ago, Twist1256 said:

Is AIO viable or should I just switch to using each individual mod related to it?

Both is okay, because AIO is a collection for easy install of all needed individual mods.

I only have experience with UUNP path and AIO-P.

If you are not sure what is needed to install the body of your choice then AIO-P is a great solution.

Just don't install anything AIO-P creature related if you want to use MNC SLAL later on.

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